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On May 30 2014 22:56 batsnacks wrote: Damn it no one is going to read that thing I just posted because it's at the bottom of the page. Don't think it really applies. He meant that he town read ritoky for being ballsy and then his town read was reaffirmed when he did towny looking scum hunting. | ||
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don't know your alignment, and I (If I am town) If you are town...? | ||
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On May 30 2014 23:36 IAmRobik wrote: I think it's really scummy that you are basing a read off of what's going on in a different game. I also think it's scummy that you are trying to build a case on mderg because of Palmar's actions, instead of on Palmar. It's really not. | ||
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On May 30 2014 23:49 Palmar wrote: Maybe mderg is smart enough to know that I don't always play the same way HF. There is not a way in this game that you are not getting lynched. In survivor you spent the WHOLE game complaining about people afking. You said to ve at the end, that you couldn't overlook his afking at the start of the game and that made him scum and you were unlikely to change your mind. You mentioned more than several times that you would policy lynch afkers in later games. I am holding you to this standard. You will be lynched and if you are town the failure to get +1 town point rested on your activity. | ||
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On May 30 2014 23:53 IAmRobik wrote: It really is. I'd love to hear your explanation for why you don't think it's alignment indicative of palmar at all, but that it is alignment indicative for mderg. Are you retarded? There's 1 sentence in that entire thing that relies on palmars activity in another game. It's nothing to do with MY read on palmar. It's mdergs mindset. I can't talk about the things happening in ongoing games. Mderg had tambo as scum and all tambo did was afk and say something about rng at the start. Mderg has palmar as town and all palmar did was vote tambo and permanently afk. Mderg defends his palmar town read based on nothing and it doesn't make sense. Independent of this I quite obviously think palnar is scum. | ||
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On May 31 2014 00:00 Palmar wrote: Look more people talking who will be gone when my cell comes up! ' Also, my rules don't apply to myself, I am the king after all. It doesn't matter, I will make sure people do it. Besides, if you're town it will go down with mafia and you'll get lynched anyway. | ||
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On May 31 2014 00:02 IAmRobik wrote: Your blatantly talking about ongoing games, and now you're saying that you can't talk about things happening in ongoing games. That's so hypocritical. So let's lay out a hypothetical for you: Say Palmar is playing 2 games at once, and he's active in one game and inactive in another. Say, hypothetically, that the mod of the game that Palmar is active in, for this example, let's pick a name out of a hate.....let's say mderg, should prolly have a grasp of Palmar activitity. In this crazy hypothetical occurrence that has nothing to do with real life, why would you ping out the mod, over the person that you perceive as playing differently. THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. What the hell are you talking about? The ongoing games thing is so minor in comparison to everything else. It's simple activity vs non-activity that was not mentioned by mderg despite being in 2 games at once. It's another facet to gather information that mderg ignores to instead town read palmar based on nothing. Why are you still focusing on this ongoing game stuff when there's actual convincing stuff before that. | ||
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On May 31 2014 00:08 IAmRobik wrote: I don't give a **** about the ongoing game. I want to know why you are focusing on mderg for it as opposed to Palmar. Clearly, within the past few posts, I have come to realize that you also consider Palmar scum. But the fact that you are focusing on mderg over Palmar is what bothers the **** out of me Palmar has 0 activity to talk about. Mderg has more than 0 activity to talk about. Already talked about palmars cell and came to him being mafia conclusion before talking to mderg. If you don't bother reading you'll never find this out and you'll keep wasting your time on this pointless crap. | ||
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Get the fuck on mz, the fact it's no longer unanimous should be obvious. | ||
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On May 31 2014 03:56 IAmRobik wrote: For the record, I have 0 other reason to believe he's town. On May 31 2014 05:08 IAmRobik wrote: I just read like 2 posts of his and decided that...I didn't read any of his early stuff until I read whatever MZ quoted. I haven't read the drunk stuff that people cleared him for, but I assumed it was clear-worthy. I was mostly just going along with the consensus of people who were calling him town backed by my own insta-read on him. On May 31 2014 05:11 IAmRobik wrote: Absolutely not. I think that all of the people in cell A have good things going for them and MZ is probably the scummiest of the lot. The fact that Odin seems to have felt safe and hasn't been back to the thread makes me lean scummier though. Like, the dude is in the first lynch group. He has to put in a solid 72 hours of work including the mayor shit (unless that was also 48hrs -- which would be lolworthy long), and he's not willing to be around for the last half of the last day that he can possibly contribute. DAFUQ is that bullshit. On May 31 2014 05:16 IAmRobik wrote: Whatever, I concede that it may be Rikoty, but like, I don't like MZ for scum anymore. I'm putting my ass on the line here. Like if we don't lynch MZ and it's a miss, I feel like I'm gonna be facing the wrath of 7 hells tomorrow. 0 reason to believe mz is town other than 2 of his cell being on mz, suddenly becomes all of cell A having good things going for them, uses odin's inactivity to redo a scum read and says he obviously feels safe despite if you actually read odins posts it looked like the complete opposite (lololol) after having no actual read on odin at all because he never read his posts (read the red text) this leads odin to being the scum in cell A. so to summarise robik, he is SO SO SO confident that mz is NOT A BUS despite consensus being solidly on mz being scum all day that scum would most likely have to bus that he completey throws everything away to not vote mz. He even said he would vote other people to SAVE mz he was that confident. Highest TMI i've seen in a while All through the mayor day mderg was town reading ritoky which culminated in: On May 29 2014 05:51 mderg wrote: ##vote: ritoky I don´t really agree with his cell order but I´m more sure about him being town than batsnacks. The vote is most likely going to be between these two. So I´m voting for my stronger townread. Since then not much changed, he even said cell A "should be pretty clear". Then you have this post: + Show Spoiler + On May 30 2014 06:42 mderg wrote: Giving my thoughts on Cell A: At first I didn´t like ritoky and MZ and I thought one of them just wanted an easy misslynch in thrawn. Especially thrawn not posting at all and being replaced isn´t alignment indicative at all. Later in his mayor campaign ritoky actually showed some solid reasoning and elaborated on his cell order. Even though I didn´t agree with the cell order I thought he was townie and figured that having him as mayor would give us a well elaborated cell order. Odin´s first post weren´t necessarily screaming town to me but they certainly weren´t scummy. I didn´t like how he called ritoky leading a clear agenda in his mayor campaign since I didn´t see any agenda in that. What I liked however was his point about MZ townreading people simply of going into the spotlight with their mayor campaigns. I also thought that MZ was sheeping ritoky for an easy misslynch at that point. His Palmar scumread makes sense but I have a feeling that Palmar is actually town. Coupled with the fact that he didn´t like the freedom bullshit I read Odin as town at that point. That also means that I thought of MZ as scum. Then the "drunken rage" hits and I´m really unsure about Odin. It might just be play from a frustrated townie but it might also be play by a frustrated scum. It didn´t make any sense to me. At about the same time MZ started having some good posts that seemed townie to me. The reads he made in this post seemed natural to me. + Show Spoiler + On May 30 2014 04:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Cell C: HF, you’ve been active all game and I generally agree with your reads and your “townpile.” I have you as town right now. Batsnacks wanted group C to go first because he felt he “had a grasp on it” but hasn’t actually provided any insight into the group aside from his one big post where he “didn’t like” and was “not a fan” of lots of people but did not provide any solid reads. At the moment, only real scumread is me for “buddying ritoky.” His to big posts were a summary and setup speculation. Overall not really impressed with what I’ve seen. ShaioPi is sadly less impressive than batsnacks. He calls HF, Tamburini, and ritoky scum and then never really revisits it. He doesn’t like group A and he wanted batsnacks to be mayor. Overall incredibly lurky and low content. I had called him scum for saying he didn’t like freedom but at the moment he’s the scummiest from group C imo. Cell D Tamburini rng’d a list of scum and then afk’d, null. ObiWan is lurky as well. Has thrice promised a case and then reneged. The only real read he provides is sloosh as scum. There’s a casual open manner to his posts though imo so I’ll give him a pass until I see more substantive posts. I guess I’m cautiously optimistic about obiwan. Sloosh is active lurking and he chainsaw’s Odin by going after me. I personally think his case is hilariously bad and because I think Odin is scum, I’m gonna throw down the omgus and say that sloosh is the scum from Cell D. His active lurking and lack of reads is bad enough, the chainsaw is icing on the cake. Cell E Layabout has been spectacularly useless, but he might be the scum from this group because he goes after ritoky, but then changes his tune after the lynch on me starts to pick up speed. This is just another chainsaw defense of odin. Layabout goes from saying ritoky’s plan makes perfect sense from a mafia perspective to saying I’m scum for buddying him. The only thing that makes sense here from a mafia perspective is layabout’s play because he realizes I’m an easier lynch than ritoky. 27NB has been active and her reads have been decent. Townread from me. Mderg hasn’t really been pushing any reads, but what he has said has been well thought out and logical so I feel pretty good about him as well. So my scum team looks like this: Odin, Palmar, ShaioPi, Sloosh, Layabout. Most confident on the first two, least confident on ShaioPi . I don´t really agree on Cell C. I wouldn´t put Hf down as town and his reasoning for calling ShiaoPi scum is not the most convincing. But I agree that ShiaoPi is scummiest in that group. I completely agree with his reads on cell D. tamburini is a question mark and ObiWan was kinda strange with the case he promised. But sloosh was unconvincing, his case on MZ seemed kinda lazy and it seemed like he was actively lurking. Cell E seems pretty clear to me. layabout´s play didn´t convince me at all and bunnies showed good activity as well as good elaboration on her reads. So I´m stuck in the weird place of having 3 slight townreads in this cell. Right now I´d go with ritoky because I haven´t seen anything amazing from him recently but this is not how I want to actually lynch someone. which pretty much calls everyone in cell A null/town and leaves his options open, I'd go so far as to say that ritoky is his actual strongest read based off of day 1 info + this post but somehow he said he'd probably end up voting ritoky at the end of it despite listing no negatives compared to the other 2. Then the reads he actually gives in the post if you focus on them don't legitimately add up and it doesn't seem like he's keeping consistant with it at all (I made a post on this before). He says sloosh's case was lazy and not great and sloosh's case was all about MZ sheeping, HE SAID IT WAS BAD OK BUT THEN HE TOWN READS ODIN FOR SAYING THE SAME THING ON MZ EVEN THOUGH IT WAS AFTER SLOOSH'S CASE. This is really really suspicious. He then gives a terrible reason to switch to ritoky over mz even though ritokys thoughts were pretty consitant with what he had been saying the whole day so it had not changed. Not to mention he tried to just push me for saying "mderg is definitely mafia" and his reason was that mafia has "too much information" so he pretty much just called himself mafia Somehow he even knows for a fact that I´m mafia. Sadly he also says that he will not disclose the reasons for that. As far as I know only people of 1 alignment can know the alignment of others for a fact (hint: it´s scum). He is 100% lying here. I´m not scum. Also, why even mention reasons you will not disclose anyway? Not to mention I did disclose as much info as I could and more than anything HE SHOULD KNOW THE UNDISCLOSED INFO SO THIS IS SUPER SUSPICIOUS TOO. auto-lynch palmar plz, he even used the same shitty logic as robik "if mz is scum i'm basically a free mislynch in my cell oh noooo!" On May 31 2014 03:27 Palmar wrote: Too bad I can't save you ##Unvote MZ ##Vote ritoky Reason: I don't expect anyone to follow this but whatever, because it relies on me knowing I'm town. if MZ is actually mafia, I'm basically a lock mislynch for his team. There is literally no reason for him as scum to call me out as being scum which might (even if weak) be at some point interpreted as me actually being town. if he's mafia he'd probably just not comment on me at all because that makes sure he doesn't accidentally absolve me. On May 31 2014 05:16 IAmRobik wrote: Whatever, I concede that it may be Rikoty, but like, I don't like MZ for scum anymore. I'm putting my ass on the line here. Like if we don't lynch MZ and it's a miss, I feel like I'm gonna be facing the wrath of 7 hells tomorrow. Not associative, just mafia reasoning. cell d is still a clusterfuck ##vote iamrobik | ||
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On June 01 2014 02:59 batsnacks wrote: Holyflare who's mafia in Cell D and E? cell d i honestly have no clue, obi's only contribution is a terrible case on me when it wasn't even relevant and was bad and he voted mz for "plot holes in his reasoning" but never explained that and wasted time, tambo is just.. like afk all the time and when he returns he goes on bunnies for reasons of fucking rng discussion -.- major useless waste of time, sloosh had a case that i liked but that's the only thing that i liked and other than that he has done absolutely 0 things so really cell d is complete shit cell e, i like bunnies, she went tryhard on filtering people when it didnt' really need to be done if she was mafia because i'm pretty sure she had good reasons to begin with, she's put in a lot of effort and all that jazz. i already made my reasons for mderg but i wouldn't honestly be surprised if it was layabout because he has also done 0 things | ||
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On June 01 2014 03:05 mderg wrote: If it is what I think it is, I have absolutely no clue how you could come to the conclusion then. I also think you should not have mentioned it at all. it's nothing to do with what you think, simply that you are in both games and drew no parallells between what he was doing here and there yet instantly town read him for 0 reasons here after he had done nothing and then you defended the point about 3 times | ||
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The thing about Poof brought up about Palmar is nothing I´d read into I don´t really like M_Z because he is so into the freedom thing and kinda buddied with ritoky. He also called the meta case on Palmar "a pretty damning meta case". IMO it´s something to look into but definitely not even close to a 100% scum tell. Also I am not that sure about Palmar being scum. Why would he do the same shit as the game before where he was scum. It just feels strange. His Palmar scumread makes sense but I have a feeling that Palmar is actually town this is all while palmar was doing nothing, not consistant and definitely tmi | ||
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