You Only Shoot Once Mafia

On April 15 2014 08:00 prplhz wrote:
I don't like the idea of a full PM game, I think those games often turn to boring for most people involved. I don't think silent nights will do much, we will still have 100+ pages day1. The 40 posts a cycle seems a little strict though, maybe 60 or 80?

On April 23 2014 04:56 Alakaslam wrote:

Man I would forget everything.

Palmar I am surprised we disagree- do you not use night talk to manipulate the town?

On April 26 2014 13:59 Caller wrote:
Who the hell are you guys?

#Nukealmar

On April 26 2014 18:11 OdinOfPergo wrote:



This is exactly what I mean.
What makes you think town Palmar would insta OMGUS and waste his 1 shot ability to retaliate vs someone this early in the day?

On April 26 2014 20:40 Ace wrote:
You guys believing Caller's nuke is real? :/

On April 26 2014 20:51 Ace wrote:
Palmar, wouldn't make more sense for us to lynch Caller, not shoot him?

On April 27 2014 00:59 prplhz wrote:
Palmar's alignment doesn't even matter.

You don't join a game thinking "I'll fuck this up good". You just don't do that. Even if you're a lunatic, Chezinu or Alakaslam, you join thinking "I'll catch some scum, I'll do good, I'll be a good townie" but that's not what he's doing. I get the "too dumb to be scum" argument but it doesn't apply here. That argument applies when people do stuff like having a dumb scum reads. For example "he's scum for posting a smiley" or something like that, and it's not really "too dumb to be scum" it's "too paranoid not to be town". This is too dumb to be town because no one would ever do this as town, ever.

On April 27 2014 00:40 Koshi wrote:
VE talking so much about this Caller business because VE is scum and he enjoys talking about something he is right on. I am extremely bored btw. You people should entertain me more.

On April 27 2014 03:18 justanothertownie wrote:
I propose the following: We ignore this shit until the nuke lands/is supposed to land. If it does and Palmar dies we kill Caller. So Palmar, if you are town I suggest you don't do whatever anti-town stuff you got in mind because it doesn't make the nuke not land on you and it doesn't make any difference if we kill caller before or after you die.

On April 27 2014 05:46 prplhz wrote:
i wasn't talking about you btw, i was talking about caller in the second paragraph

On April 26 2014 14:54 Blazinghand wrote:
I honestly don't see how this says anything about caller's alignment. If you really thought that caller was scum blatantly shooting someone geript you wouldn't feel the need to write such a long paragraph justifying such a simple thought. Caller is just Caller and you're just scum. Scum who is overexplaining cause he knows he's lying

##vote geript

On April 26 2014 15:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not in the business of voting for town for playing against how I think they should play. I want to lynch scum. I think geript's outrage at Caller's shot and his numbering his posts makes him more likely to be town. I think IF Palmar is town then there's a chance he'll rage-shoot Caller, and if he's scum then I don't care WHO he might shoot, but until he proves he's town I don't want him shooting anyone.

On April 27 2014 17:48 OdinOfPergo wrote:
What the hell.
Seriously.

Why is no one lynching Palmar.
This dude claims scum,
and everyone ignore it.

I haven't checked out SnB but you know what.. I'm not going to until tomorrow.
Lynching scum to high on my list to worry about other things.

##Vote: Palmar

Even now Palmar you can't be asked to put any effort into this game.
Per your last post you;
Want to die so you can "yell at game" post game.

Didn't actually read Prp's case but decided he must be town. So thus pardon.... TO FIRETRUCK WITH TOWN. And he's WORRIED he didn't screw with town.

So what gives? There is this guy in our game... Who claims over and over again he's out to do whatever is possible to ruin the town.
And we aren't lynching him.

On April 28 2014 19:25 prplhz wrote:
Okay I want to lynch Ace because of the following:

Ace wanted to lynch Caller because of the nuke (when Ace didn't know the nuke was fake). However when Alakaslam shot yamato77 he didn't care at all, just a throwaway comment on how it was a bad shot. Makes absolutely no sense to want to lynch one player for something and not wanting to lynch another player for the same thing.

On April 27 2014 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:

Your blind worshipping is just getting on my nerves tbh. Foolishness did exactly this to WoS in the shadow game. As long as almighty Foolishness doesn't explain to me why prplhz is scummy I will just ignore him and you should too. At least if you have no scumread on that guy on your own.

On April 27 2014 01:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Seems more like a bluff to me. I did it all last game in catastrophe for fun as town since my role is mediocre. I'm guessing Palmar is just VT and bored that he got shot by the insane caller. Their alignments literally do not matter as we won't see Palmar's alignment, such a waste of thread space.

On April 28 2014 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
at the very least I think one of palmar or snb has to be scum with the way the votes are going and the way they are being placed so thats good. dont mind a 1 for 1 trade.

I think sandroba is flying under the radar but ill push that tomorrow.

On April 27 2014 09:20 Koshi wrote:
Koshi his list of how do we read people and people we have already read.

1. Ace (Lynch if he doesn't lynch scum and is smart. If your mouth didn't fall open by the end of D2 because his smartness made you want to insert penis in .... Wait too much penis talk already... we should shenanigans lynch him)
2. Foolishness ( Mouth already full)
3. Sandroba (I like how he was all bossy and short with answers Totes town)
4. Caller ( Somewhere I believe Palmar will be scum, I am optimistic like that, sadly I will never see Palmar flip so my optimism will just be replaced by curiosity and we should lynch this guy D4 or so, dnu if we have like trackers or something and that kp is factional so yeah dnu yet. I am like feeling he is town. Dnu really. Dnu)
5. Palmar (butthurt. Maybe also scum)
6. VE ( scum because reasons given already)
7. prplhz (scum because Foolishness said so)
9. yamato (town because smart and the post in which he says he has no townreads)
10. vayneauthority (town, I just know it)
11. rebirthoflegend (Going to be replaced again)
12. Cephiro (I think he already made a big post and it wasn't at the end of D1 about the start of D1 so he is town atm)
13. alakaslam (town cuz 2 happy)
14. waveofshadow (town cuz good posts)
15. strongandbig (2 smart , also is "all like guis let's talk about stuff" and then doesn't talk about stuff = scum)
16. odinofpergo ( On to something, might be smart town)
17. oatsmaster (dnu, he is probably in crisis now he can't make oneline post taunting people)
18. Blazinghand (town. I am sure. He is actually playing decent. BH as scum plays riddles)
19. tehpoofter ( dnu)
20. Justanothertownie (mehhhhh, always these silly questions JAT, then that outburst towards me, let's call him scum, also because after I called him out for being a hypocrite he quoted something marv always says)
21. Geript ( scum)
22. Gumshoe (???)
23. austinmcc (???)

Game probably solved.

On April 28 2014 02:18 Ace wrote:
Palmar. When he asked for Caller to be shot and I said that wouldn't be a good idea because he won't flip he said he didn't care. Pardoning you when you weren't in danger of even dying was also useless. If you're doing anti-town things, and acknowledge it before you do it, and threaten to screw the Town over - you're scum.

On April 26 2014 22:18 Cephiro wrote:
Not interested in asking specific questions at certain players yet. Neither chit-chatting. If there is a mason, I'd like to be recruited. IDGAF which alignment you are if there is one, recruit me anyway.

On April 29 2014 13:46 Alakaslam wrote:
Yamato well I made a mistake.

On April 29 2014 12:14 Ace wrote:
also this confirms Cephiro is Town

On April 29 2014 12:16 Ace wrote:
jat/koshi/oden also are Town. Damn holy fuck mind = blown.

On April 29 2014 12:11 Ace wrote:
sooooooooooo............. *twiddles thumbs*

Let's lynch Palmar!

On April 29 2014 21:19 Koshi wrote:



This somewhat indicates that Cephiro knows there is a traitor while he didn't read the OP. So yeah, this might have been a slip.

Foolishness/Cephiro

pls shoot both. They are confirmed mafia or without doubt will never get nk. Maybe Foolishness will get NK if he is town and starts playing.

SOoooooo if the first vigi could please SHOOT CEPHIRO. Thank you.

Palmar is off the scumlist atm.

On April 26 2014 22:18 Cephiro wrote:
Not interested in asking specific questions at certain players yet. Neither chit-chatting. If there is a mason, I'd like to be recruited. IDGAF which alignment you are if there is one, recruit me anyway.

On April 29 2014 07:01 Cephiro wrote:
Mason group please recruit me. That's all for tonight.

On April 29 2014 21:26 Alakaslam wrote:
Palmar, Ace.

The reasoning that because I realized WHAT YOU DUMBASSES ALREADY SAID YOURSELVES is actually true makes me scum, is pure dumbassery on a level you both know better than and the fact that you push it so blatantly hypocritically makes you very likely scum.

Odin has so not been reading the thread that he is also scum.

On April 30 2014 05:38 prplhz wrote:
Like Foolishness has done exactly what he said his scum meta is: he completely disappeared d2 after making a bad case on d1. Today we just do what sandroba said, 100% scum lynch on Foolishness. we're not going with some Caller/Ace/Blazinghand bullshit. Today we listen to probably the best town player (no no, not me, sandroba) saying that he's 100% sure on someone else and we lynch Foolishness. Get on with it.

On April 30 2014 05:53 justanothertownie wrote:
That's not the only policy you are rescinding, Palmar. You also didn't lynch yourself for roleclaiming day1.

##Vote: Foolishness

Also scum: VA, BH.

On May 01 2014 02:19 Blazinghand wrote:


Fair enough. I'm down like a clown with lynching Oats. I think we've given Palmar plenty of time and he hasn't delivered, as well. RoL is a fine lynch but honestly I've learned not to expect much from him. The foolishness lynch is, well, utter foolishness.

On May 01 2014 07:08 Koshi wrote:

Then solve the fucking game.


I AM NOW OFFICIALLY OUT.

Pretty sure I went 2-3 post over limit.

On May 02 2014 05:15 Blazinghand wrote:
"Clearly bh fool scum for pushing town oats. Oh what oats flops scum? BH and fool scum for bussing scum oats."

On May 05 2014 23:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Hello palmar

I been pushing your lynch but maybe you will redeem

You got why foolishness is scum?

On May 06 2014 13:36 Foolishness wrote:
Really you guys are making mountains out of molehills, and letting mafia sit back and do nothing (again). Why not kill the people that aren't contributing to the town and are clearly apathetic? I've already spent posts responding to JAT and WoS and I'm not going to waste time or take up space beating a dead horse by arguing them. You can look through my filter to see what I've said. If someone else has a big point that needs answering then say so and quote it and I'll respond (like Ace just did now).

On May 07 2014 05:20 Foolishness wrote:
WoS, it's called your bad at this game.

I've officially run out of motivation and stopped caring. Your game to throw not mine. Just read the cases that have been made and hopefully you can make things work out in the end.

On May 07 2014 08:18 Palmar wrote:
If foolishness flips town we lynch poofter for TMI

On May 07 2014 08:25 Tehpoofter wrote:


Why you so sure Foolishness is town now? You said the same thing about Ace earlier?


Any reason you're bringing this stuff up before you even know Foolishness alignment? Who do we lynch if Foolish flips scum like you seem to think he will? Who is the auto must lynch in this world?

9 posts 3 given.

On May 07 2014 08:27 WaveofShadow wrote:

I'm more inclined to lynch you and then super lynch Fool if you flip town. Hell, JAT can even shoot him.
Problem with lynching in general is we need VE/gumshoe/Cephiro all to show up.

I do so love when people sign up for mafia and play games.

On May 07 2014 12:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is the perfect situation for scum right now. Austin and JAT now look like shit.

On May 08 2014 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar should absolutely be the lynch tomorrow. Anyone who disagrees is his scumbuddy.

See you guys in a bit.

On May 07 2014 12:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is the perfect situation for scum right now. Austin and JAT now look like shit, the rest of the players in this game aren't even playing...

On May 08 2014 00:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've already explained why JAT looks like shit, he has done nothing but push Foolishness all game to the detriment of any other scumhunting and usefulness. I've also already explained why I don't like Austin's push on Fool AFTER he came out with the QT as to me, the QT made him look townier. Also I was/am mad at them/myself. Fact remains that there are still a billion to people to lynch ahead of either of them. I want to say you're one of them but strangely enough your 'proof' actually resonated with me.

On May 08 2014 14:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
Ive explained the connections I feel he has to palmar in my filter and slam tends to agree as well.

On May 10 2014 03:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
I would actually laugh if we lynched marv today. I certainly won't contribute to it 'cause dude's obvs townmarv but whateva. Sorry buddeh but it would be pretty hilarious.

I think I seriously wouldn't mind just lynching the shoe tonight. I think its high time for me to be wrong about him again.

On May 10 2014 12:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can town concede? Can I just leave the game until it's over?
Scum won this game because:
a) We had the tools to deal with lurkers but instead we used them on vocal people instead
b) People play like and ass and/or give up too easily (myself obviously included).

GG

On May 10 2014 17:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Nobody gave me a post and I was here the whole time to consolidate.


-_-



Well. I am not sure it would even have mattered.

I am headed to the smash forum, I need to thank someone...

On May 10 2014 17:46 Alakaslam wrote:

Not going to divulge pm convos. But regardless, I host-WIFOM you with confirmed townieness to say, no it isn't. If it is why didn't anyone say "SLAM NEEDS TO CHANGE HIS VOTE HERE IS A POST NOW YOU HAVE NARY A EXCUSE

Palmar I had made 40 posts one day. I had been penalized the whole night and limited to 10 for the day versus modkill. Good.

Nonetheless you recommend pushing the envelope?

On May 12 2014 17:44 marvellosity wrote:

Actually a more true statement now.

On May 12 2014 23:43 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'll probably regret this, but can you explain what you mean?

On May 13 2014 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
Plammy, I told thee I'd gotten over the mafiaVE thing.

On May 13 2014 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
So I guess the plan for today is to let gumshoe slide, huh?
Whatever. Tell me who to vote for later.

On May 15 2014 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote:

If I'm "all the scummy people" then why aren't you pushing for /my/ lynch mother effer?

On May 16 2014 14:56 Tehpoofter wrote:
Thats good news boys. Tomorrow Va or Palmer. Lets wreck these guys.

@WoS props on the lynch on gum glad you pulled us off MArv.

On May 13 2014 19:50 Palmar wrote:
Oh Caller may have been mafia.

So there's that. Maybe we have less left than we think. Austinmcc seemed to want to kill caller/gumshoe from his latest posts so maybe mafia wanted to kill him because of that.

On May 19 2014 06:17 Tehpoofter wrote:



What do you feel about VA? I really want to understand Marv's read of Palmer but I don't so I'm okay with going on either Palmer or VA today.


@JaT Which is your preference out of Palmer/Va/Me? Do you have the same feeling of "auto" as I'm getting?

@Palmer Say you knew I was town who is the mafia left?

On May 10 2014 11:31 Tehpoofter wrote:
So you disagree with a shot I took what 3 days ago.

On May 08 2014 00:08 WaveofShadow wrote:

This game was a hell of a lot more fun when I didn't care about it.

I've already explained why JAT looks like shit, he has done nothing but push Foolishness all game to the detriment of any other scumhunting and usefulness. I've also already explained why I don't like Austin's push on Fool AFTER he came out with the QT as to me, the QT made him look townier. Also I was/am mad at them/myself. Fact remains that there are still a billion to people to lynch ahead of either of them. I want to say you're one of them but strangely enough your 'proof' actually resonated with me.

Also Palmar plz.
I kicked your ass as scum in Survivor series. You really think I'd be caught like that? I care about my scumgame way too much to play the way I did for the first half of the game, but of course that's not necessarily indicative for you.

Maybe Ace's nuke will actually land. That'd be nice. I guess maybe Poofter tomorrow? I think a lot of his stuff yesterday made me hate him less than I did after that one post so I'll have to re-read. Or we can just start YOLOing into lurkers. Something about the way VA was so easily convinced to switch bothers me even though I read him as town. meh.

On May 19 2014 12:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Final post and a hint:
Check voting patterns and the order of votes as well.

On April 27 2014 01:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Seems more like a bluff to me. I did it all last game in catastrophe for fun as town since my role is mediocre. I'm guessing Palmar is just VT and bored that he got shot by the insane caller. Their alignments literally do not matter as we won't see Palmar's alignment, such a waste of thread space.

On April 28 2014 13:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
well at least i dont feel bad hammering since it woulda happened anyway. w/e stupid lynch

On May 01 2014 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
Yea I will also lynch slam or palmar based on their day 1 actions. seems like scum is just shitting up the thread so we forget about these things. slam shot yamato of all people who is easy to read past day 1 and palmar when he thought he was going to die started baltantly claiming scum now hes back and just sitting in game doing nothing. l0l

On May 10 2014 00:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
alright well while you guys e-peen battle im voting for the obvious scum from this cycle

##vote: TehPoofter

as usual will consolidate for lynches if needed but this guys posts are hilariously bad, cya l8er.

On May 20 2014 19:50 marvellosity wrote:
VA is still a top target, maybe my wording in my larger post suggested otherwise but it wasn't meant to.

Lynching VA is pretty appealing if nothing else for the reason that it would be horrible to lose to someone who played like that.

You may as well tell me what you like about VE while we're at it, it can't hurt.

On May 12 2014 11:46 Tehpoofter wrote:
So that was a giant wall of text. Where I stand currently. One I read prphlz's mafia game and if I think Marv is scum: Marv/Gum/Palmer my likely 3 with VA in for either gum or Palmer. If I read them and think Marv is town: Ace/Gum/VA most likely the scum team with Palmer being a maybe.

WoS could be scum with Marv is scum team especially if gum was just straight afk and not just afk in the thread.

Town Circle: Me Jat VE Slam. <<<would not lynch.

On May 12 2014 17:54 Palmar wrote:
If I'm mafia I would be trying to win the game. If I'm town, you're equally guilty as me of not trying to win the game by being a whiny baby about some random votes. I'm not even voting you atm, I'm trying to kill poofter for bullshit shot.

Oh and did you see his defense "It happened 3 days ago so you can't lynch me for it anymore". I was like "say what bro?"

On May 20 2014 21:58 marvellosity wrote:

Last post I respond to you until you make your detailed breakdown of the game/who you want to lynch

poof about faced on you on the day that poof was in zero danger of getting lynched, on the day I was possibly going to get lynched, or maybe you if people had gone with my case. He didn't appeal to you either..

In the situation where a marv-town replaces into a town that's somewhat in the doldrums, and marv possibly makes a case on mafia-VE, it makes a lot of sense for mafia to make a big play to get rid of me and pile up on me (VE + Ace + Poofter). If town lynches me day 5 I think town loses the game pretty hard. Obviously this necessitates poofter supporting you and going against me.

On May 09 2014 18:04 Palmar wrote:
shit ass-town

Marv this town is great actually, you just don't know it yet.

And good job rescinding that townread on on scum poofter.

On May 10 2014 10:01 Palmar wrote:
For shooting koshi.

I don't want to lynch marv yet, but I also don't want to sheep him on VE.

So to me it comes down to WoS or poofter. poofter had a random vote on him, so fuck it, let's go with that.

On May 10 2014 10:02 Palmar wrote:
His 12 hours to do something bit was never going to end up with him changing his mind on confirmed town koshi. It was awful play and he should've known it.

We lynch poofter.

On May 22 2014 17:19 marvellosity wrote:
gg wp town

unusual that all the mafia are who they are "supposed" to be.

game seemed kinda mafia favoured. 6 mafia lynches and 2 mislynches and mafia should still have won the game if they'd used their bullets. feels a bit icky.

prplhz you played great. Didn't want to use it as an argument in the game, but I checked your filter before I asked to replace you, because I wanted to know I was replacing for a townie, and I was pretty damn sure.

On May 12 2014 17:49 Palmar wrote:
Also I thought prplhz was town, so you get the benefit of replacing in for a very good player.

On May 22 2014 16:26 Hapahauli wrote:
On the mafia side, Tehpoofter managed to get away with a shot on Koshi (which was a good result), but people should have realized that it is an incorrect play from a town perspective to shoot a scum-read. The no-flip mechanic makes it extremely undesirable to shoot your scumreads if lynching them can provide valuable information to the thread.

On May 05 2014 23:26 Palmar wrote:
Btw, this game is great, we're wrecking scum and I'm not doing jack shit. Geript being dead is sad, I miss him.

On May 06 2014 18:40 Palmar wrote:
It doesn't matter what Foolishness' (or my) alignment is when it comes to Ace.

If Foolishness is town, Ace knows this is a train wreck and doesn't care about it.

Hell, let's assume I'm confused scum and will flip mafia, even that wouldn't help Ace's case, just make it look worse that he's not pushing a good lynch better.