You Only Shoot Once Mafia

On May 01 2014 00:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Other than the incorrect claim that it's a crap shoot nobody had any real objections to lynching gun eight

On April 30 2014 12:09 Hapahauli wrote:

Vote Count:

Foolishness (4) - Koshi, prplhz, justanothertowie, Palmar
Palmar (2) - Ace, VisceraEyes
VayneAuthority (0) - Caller, Alakaslam
Gumshoe (1) - Blazinghand
Blazinghand (1) - WaveofShadow
Visceraeyes (1) - Caller, Alakaslam
Oatsmaster (2) - Gumshoe, austinmcc
RebirthOfLegend (2) - Foolishness, tehpoofter
OdinOfPergo (1) - Alakaslam



Day ends in . There are 19 players alive, and it takes 10 to lynch.

On May 01 2014 06:13 Alakaslam wrote:
K here is something.

IF foolishness is scum, so also is Koshi most likely even though that makes very little sense.

If foolishness is town Koshi could still be scum but most likely he is t.

On May 02 2014 15:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Well good new for you is that I only get 25 posts today. So I can't really waste them on dunks. But those two we re SO SWEET.

Plus you gotta admit everything about this claim smells wrong

On May 03 2014 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:
I have no idea how anyone can be this sure about VEs alignment. Besides that (2) relies on the fact that Cephiro survives (ok, if he dies we at least know he is legit). Another problem is if scum has a jailkeeper.

The thing is if we lynch one of Cephiros checks we get the same result and have a better chance of lynching scum today. Lynching outside of them only makes sense if you REALLY doubt the claim and I don't see any reason to do so - bold move to claim right now and risk being cced, Cephiro was on the scumwagon day1 when it was 8:8 and last but not least: is there anyone who really thinks BOTH of BH and slam are town? I don't.

On May 03 2014 08:26 Foolishness wrote:

There's no dealings. He's just been saying a lot of weird things.

I never made a conscious effort to try to figure out his alignment. Nor did I ever really pay close attention to the things he said.

I didn't let him influence any of my thoughts this game. I was the first one to suggest the strongandbig lynch (other people in the QT can confirm this) and he ran with it. I take full responsibility for the mislynch on day 1 (minus what Koshi did).

My gut tells me that alakaslam is town. I don't really have evidence to back that up other than I thought his justification for his vigi shot came from a town mindset. Really either lynch sounds good depending on how you look at it.

On May 04 2014 09:14 Blazinghand wrote:
##donate 5 posts to WoS

Look, I haven't played great, and I've been on the wrong side of the D1 lynch and looked for shenannies on the D2 Lynch. I'll admit it! But when it comes down to it, I've actually been putting in effort to this game. I haven't had amazing reads, but that's all in the past. I could still catch scum here. It'll be even easier if slam is the scum and not ceph.

The level of detail in ceph's claims and the weirdness in his role (though it's consistent with previous ver games) leads me to believe it's a real claim. Like, the whole thing abou this target choices and claim timing make sense because a D4 claim doesn't let him bring more info to the table than a D3 claim and this kind of parity cop, the kind Ver uses, doesn't benefit from anchoring checks. It makes sense.

I'll offer a bit of defense that I think is worthwhile.

1. Foolishness Defense: If I were a scum masoner and not a town masoner, it would not make a lot of sense to recruit Foolishness D1 then hard-defend him. If he's town, scum-me wouldn't want to defend him QUITE so hard. I stuck my neck in the noose with his to get him out, and that's because I really do think the guy is town. If I get lynched for that, at least he's alive and I got something done. I don't see any advantage for me to do this as scum. And if Foolishness is somehow my scumbuddy and I recruited him D1, it would be supremely obvious to my subsequent mason-buddies that he and I were scum together. We've genuinely done good work together. Or at least bounced ideas. Maybe as scum I'd still recruit a town Foolishness and hard defend him, but not like this. Not in a way that turns the entire town against me and makes them want to lynch me before him. You can WIFOM this all you want but really, my hard defenses (like GK that one time I was scum and he was town) as scum don't put my life in danger like this. I'm typically the most valuable member of any scumteam.

2. Oatsmaster stuff: Look, 100% Oats was gonna get lynched. He was the 2ndary wagon D1 and the primary wagon flipped town. His scumbuddies knew that his lynch was inevitable. Yes, I was on the wrong side and had ugly timing on all the Oats wagons. I guarantee you though that as scum I would either hard bus him. The shennanies were weak and shitty, but that's mostly because shenannies rely on lots of little posts and organizing an active town, ideally in a plurality, not majority game. As scum, I would position myself not to look quite so disgusting after an oats flip. Look at me. I'm BH. Do you really think I consider Oats' life ANYWHERE near as valuable as mine? Of course not. As scum, I'd bus him in a heartbeat. I might do it for no reason just to get rid of the guy. He can't be relied on. Now, if I'm scum right now, I could be saying this to throw you off, but if I'm scum 100% I bus oats, not because I think it's some great strat, but because I disdain him. He is trash. He doesn't deserve to share a QT with a god.

You know me. I'm the guy who claims survivor and sticks to it after another guy flips survivor. I'm the guy who talks about emotional breakdowns to get out of the noose. I don't care about my scumteammates, all I care about is winning, and since I'm the best player, that means bussing, not putting myself in the noose to save anyone. Not Foolishness, and certainly not Oats. Really guys, you think I tried to save Oats?

3. Cephiro. Ok, yes, I admit, I was overly suspicious of his claim. But at the time he claimed it, you gotta admit: It was a shit claim. If he was a normal parity cop, those checks would be shit checks and this would be a shit time to claim. He'd be scum. Since he's a Verparity cop, or Verity cop as I call them, then his claim makes sense. But you know who didn't question Ceph's claim? Slam. Slam just accepted it, voted me, and gave away posts. Just like he KNEW that the claim was true, and he KNEW that our alignments are different, because he's scum.

When I'm town, I'm a paranoid motherfucker. I don't trust anyone. I double-check everything. I have been supremely careful about who I let in the QT, and I am pretty sure it's actually all town in there. The only guy who I didn't super check out was this last guy we added, but he's so town it hurts. Look: I doubted the claim, and I did so not cause I'm scum, but because if you were me and in my shoes and that claim came through, looking dodge as fuck, you would question it too. Slam knew the claim was real immediately, because he's scum and knows I'm town. This is my mindset, and it's just how I operate. I don't trust people. You know that about me. You know I'd lie for any reason to win a mafia game, and that's how I view others, and that's how I viewed this claim before the extra deets.

All of these points you're gonna look at and thing "oh BH is saying it though"-- but stop for a minute and take an outside view and look at it objectively. It's not "too scummy to be scum", it's "too strategically ineffective at furthering scum goals to be scum".

I doubt people. I put my neck out for a guy I thought was town (remember, I thought he was town enough to MASON him). I soft-defended a guy who flipped scum, but that guy was Oatsmaster, possibly the most useless player that I don't WoTC. Maybe my mindset seems foreign to you, but those of you who know me:

this aint my scum play.

Vote slam. I'll have an extra 96 hours as conftown, since scum is presumably shooting ceph first. I'll make it worth your while.

On May 22 2014 12:35 WaveofShadow wrote:

How so?
He had Oats and then he tried to get gumshoe lynched who had literally done nothing in the game at all.

The only parts of my play I truly regret this game are the unnecessary negativity and voting SnB just to get a lynch. I don't feel too bad about Foolishness because he could have done more at the time and I was already getting ready to waffle.