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Palmar
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Palmar
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prplhz
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prplhz
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
Where I'm at so far: In the red corner we have! Koshi Foolishness Oats Alakaslam (reads to come on these in later posts) Light Reds: WoS WoS - This is an associative read and is based on the fact I strongly feel Koshi to be scum. When Koshi gave his big list of everyone in town he said that WoS "town cuz good posts" WoS didn't respond to this but when prphlz said that he was in his "trying" list he said "I'm not even sure I could consider my activity... "trying""+ Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 06:20 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol I'm not even sure I could consider my activity so after 'trying.' snb not scum foolishness nice meta evidence from a year ago when SnB literally JUST played a really solid town game where he explains himself in paragraphs like you said. Dunno who I wanna vote. Getting weird feels from VE ---- mebbe because I'm not used to him actually trying lately? BH has actually decided to play this game which is non-indicative but his aggressive ego push on SnB is a style he tends to use more often as scum than town. Also his 'non-care' games lately have been more from town though obvs he likes to change stuff up Dunno My posting kinda shit so far Why not point it out on Koshi's list too? he also soft defends Koshi with geript, He also said my particular favorite line to say when I'm scum "Man I wish I were scum this game" + Show Spoiler + On April 29 2014 07:59 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh look I have a post left. Man if I were scum I'd be so happy to be in this game. I think my name has been mentioned/people have talked to me like twice. Don't really blame people though cause I feel exceptionally unless this time around Take palmar off scumlist, mebbe add Oats? Though a lot of first day choices come down to town v town so hmm Also should look at vote analysis Scum don't vote together D1 if they can avoid it for the most part so I'd look at where votes were before the mad scramble for consolidation started...? I think I'm speaking about when Oats and snb we're it'd at 8 I think VA could be scum this time around---looks like he's trying to be more useless (town VA) now after being called out for being try hardy early (Scum VA) Though I'm not sure what it means if we both voted sandroba. Probably doesn't mean anything other than he wanted to put his vote somewhere his scu m buddies weren't. Also pretty convenient of him to drop hammer. And none of that 'if I were scum I wouldn't drop hammer' shit cause there are a ton of people who would I'll be around after deadline to talk if anyone cares about me caus I won't be dying tonight, ill be around till we lose at endgame Its light red because if I'm wrong on Koshi I think WoS stuff can isn't as bad like I did like most of his posts those just stood out to me as odd. In the green corner we have! austin Austin is in a land of his own in town aside from Tehpoofter he's my topest town! He was actively trying to push against the ML on S&B he was asking lots and lots of questions and is addressing almost everyone in the thread. He was also doing so in a small amount of posts after reading day 1 I thought to myself "Wow how did austin not cap on posts" Then i looked at his filter and he made 19 posts and gave 6 away. To me he felt like the strongest presence in the game but he didn't even make the full posts allotted to him he gave away 1/5th of them. Basically he said a lot in few words which I think is very townie to do scum say little with a lot of words imo. Caller The town reads fall off from here but I think what Caller did (once I got to the part that the nuke was fake) was that he started discussion HELLA early in a gmae with limited postings this was super pro town in my opinion. I think mafia would loved to have rued in the chaos and wasted posts of a game starting he also didn't endanger town and even said that the nuke wasn't real before it hit and Palmer had done the anti-town thing he was claiming. MafiaCaller would have waited until after Palmer did whatever anti-town thing he was going to do (assuming in this case of course Palmer is town) then say "it was just fake bro calm down" instead to me it read kinda like "ok lets not let things get out of hand here I just wanted people to talk" Odin His first post was exactly what I was thinking in my read through. + Show Spoiler + On April 26 2014 14:52 OdinOfPergo wrote: So you're giving up your "if I'm town Palmar is scum" heuristic geript? These people are a lighter green Ceph Palmer Ace Ceph - Made a big post at the start of the day instead of the end he also seemed far more confident than he did in cell mafia as scum to me, this isn't enough for a solid read though. Palmer - His reaction to be a big baby and hold town hostage seems more town than mafia to me but I have a hard time or reading him as mafia. I do however think that as scum Palmer might give up and do the same thing but I feel like he would have screwed with town more. Ace - He called out Foolishness on his weak meta case against SnB and I felt had a townie mindset on the Caller/Palmer situation I think he is wrong on Palmer but he did try to push his lynch on Palmer which is a townie thing. My reason for not putting him higher is that he replied to the post about him not talking about NBA/posting gifs by posting a gif which could be a joke or mafia being like "shit I better give out my town tell thanks for reminding me" | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Anyhoezels. You are already wrong on me and Foolishness is a good busstarget because he probably cba anymore and the rest of your scumreads are the opposite of what geript told the thread. So you are saying they killed geript for WIFOM? That shit rarely happens, and it really rarely happens to somebody who doesn't get nk early normally. Anyway. Your reads suck but I am very patiently awaiting your awesome cases. Make sure they are awesome. | ||
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Palmar
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On April 29 2014 21:13 Palmar wrote: Like does no one but me care that Ceph is literally claiming traitor? On April 26 2014 22:18 Cephiro wrote: Koshi: How does he know there is a traitor? Unless he simply pointed out that he's one and wants to be recruited. Scumbag. This somewhat indicates that Cephiro knows there is a traitor while he didn't read the OP. So yeah, this might have been a slip. Foolishness/Cephiro pls shoot both. They are confirmed mafia or without doubt will never get nk. Maybe Foolishness will get NK if he is town and starts playing. SOoooooo if the first vigi could please SHOOT CEPHIRO. Thank you. Palmar is off the scumlist atm. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
Oats was the other lynch for yesterday he was at one point I believe tied with SNB. Austin brings up a really good point that Oats was saying caller was town for nuking Palmer and it was so dumb he couldn't be scum but then Oats voted Slam instantly for doing something similar without hesitation. Read austin's filter I was trying to find this post and turns out austin talks about Oats a lot so don't search the word "oats" I don't have much to add on the case as austin did I think a really good job on it. It was much stronger than the SNB case and I think it not getting pushed over was most likely mafia not wanting to. Slam - I can't read you. You shot in a weird in scummy way especially if multiple scum people show up in the voters that were on SNB at the time of Yam's threat. You are a question mark for me in every game we've ever played and that pushes you from "I have no clue" to "wow he did something scummy better lynch him" to me. My main reads however are Koshi and Foolishness (these are my two most likely shots today as I think a) they're the most scummy and b) I don't think town will be able to consolidate on one and they're unlikely to both be scum) I will make a bigger post when I wake up highlighting the scumminess with quotes and shit but for now: Koshi He made this case on SNB and it got band wagoned if he is town here he would be excited I think that SNB his scum read was going to get lynched and be pushing for it (look at how austin the town hero was pushing for Oats) he would be asking questions and trying to really get people on his side for the lynch because obviously finding scum is amazing. Instead Koshi posts such inspiring posts as: On April 27 2014 22:01 Koshi wrote: Ok the things you asked me fully explained. Palmar: Palmar got nuked early in the game and reacted by playing anti-town. It seems he even wanted to play so anti town that he wanted to pardon our lynch. This alone is 100% nuke/Shoot/lynch Palmar for me. I said this quite early. On top of that he claimed scum the exact same way he did in World Heavy Champ thing by quoting the BH scumclaim "blow me town". So I totes want to kill Palmar, but there always is this 1% chance that he was major butthurt and he is actually going to be helpful now because he realizes his major butthurtness was retarded. But I am not holding my breath. Somewhere Palmar should be shot instead of lynched maybe? I don't know, probably the wagon of justice will move to Palmar near the end of the day. Foolishness/prplhz: Foolishness made the JubJub Journals last game so I love Foolishness. Don't be mistaken though, I always love winning games more. So even though it may look like I am just sheeping Foolishness, I am very aware he hasn't done too much. It has nothing to do with proplhz his alignment and how I read him. When I made my list of Koshi awesomeness I saw I already had way too many scum and I would have plprhz town reading his filter but I just put him as scum so people like JAT and geript can be outraged by the ridiculousness of my list and hammer on the fact I got prplhz as scum and I am sheeping etc etc. I just give them scummy points in return. Also laugh at them. SnB: I think this guy is scum. Honest read. I explained it. I think that's all! Bro status achieved? On April 28 2014 00:03 Koshi wrote: ##vote: SnB strongandbig is actually going after Foolishness "for not caring enough". Also superawesome research work on SnB part. On April 28 2014 03:13 Koshi wrote: Meh... ABBA bro you better be not be lying scum here. It's interesting SnB didn't mention geript. Because SnB disagrees with my case and calls me scummy for it but geript gave me a townread for my case. I don't know anymore. All my scummers are voting for SnB. I let the vets do their stuff and vote accordingly. atm I like for lynch: 1) Palmar 2) SnB 3) VE 4) geript ^^ Good job here pre distancing from the lynch he started. On April 28 2014 07:04 Koshi wrote: I stick on SnB. gn. On April 28 2014 10:06 Koshi wrote: Also this post count thingie is only a guideline and not a hard rule. Read OP pls. SnB lynch of Justice. He doesn't try to rally the town behind him ask others questions about his case the only thing he asked was to SNB "Am I scum?" He spends more time defending Oats than he does pushing his own lynch: + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 07:02 Koshi wrote: Why isn't Oats lynchbait? Small filter. AFK till lynch. On April 28 2014 07:03 Koshi wrote: I read Oats filter after reading austin case and I don't see the connection. The case is larger than his filter. On April 28 2014 07:07 Koshi wrote: Oats even has way bigger filters than this as mafia. He is a fucking hard catch normally. Look at all the games. He always is like last mafia standing. He doesn't try to give extra reasoning why SnB is scum he basically says he is scum gogogogog. Look at the way austin approached his lynch (imo super townie) and how Koshi did... he was pushing but not and defending the other lynch. I think its super likely Koshi and Oats are both mafia and thats why I put him ahead of Foolishness. The other thing Koshi has done since day 1 right after the night phase ended: On April 29 2014 17:53 Koshi wrote: geript got shot. Things we learn from his filter: 1) Oats is town 2) Alakaslam is town 3) Cephiro needs to be shot really badly. geript was on Cephiro ass. 4) Foolishness is weird and needs to be shot. 5) Plammer is playing Dota and needs to be shot. 6) RoL useless should be shot. 7) 8) SnB was wrong about the last 2 but still got shot. This means he got a pretty decent % right on the other 6. I have read his entire filter twice now and I don't think I missed another big read of his. He had Sandroba as town, so that's something he was right about, but it is not something he would get shot over knowing that Sandroba got shot as well. So please reread geript his filter as well and please let me know if I missed something. I am pretty sure I didn't. There is something minor on prplhz but nothing too big. His early filter was about Policy lynch Caller and Koshi. So let me add something about this Koshi guy. This Koshi guy is totally not harmful. Almost every time it gets very obvious the longer the game progresses that this Koshi guy only wants the best for town. So I would say please leave the Koshi guy alone and not shoot him. Really. No kidding here. No bullets towards Koshi. So imo the vigis should really shoot Cephiro, Palmar, Foolishness. Just all 3. Shoot them. I see Palmar even agrees on Foolishness and Cephiro. He basically clears Oats and Slam because of geripts reads right after the shot and basically straight sheeps him with the Palmer read and now suddenly turns on Foolishness. Foolishness was right with him on day 1 on the lynch on SnB they were buddies he sheeped him instantly with his votes goign against his own reads. If Koshi/Oats/Slam are all mafia the geript shot was the best shot to make imo. I will post my Foolishness side of the coin tomorrow for now I need sleep and honestly after going through Koshi's filter again he looks so damn scummy its unreal. | ||
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Palmar
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On April 29 2014 21:19 Koshi wrote: This somewhat indicates that Cephiro knows there is a traitor while he didn't read the OP. So yeah, this might have been a slip. Foolishness/Cephiro pls shoot both. They are confirmed mafia or without doubt will never get nk. Maybe Foolishness will get NK if he is town and starts playing. SOoooooo if the first vigi could please SHOOT CEPHIRO. Thank you. Palmar is off the scumlist atm. that's not what I'm talking about, although there is a point to it. On April 26 2014 22:18 Cephiro wrote: Not interested in asking specific questions at certain players yet. Neither chit-chatting. If there is a mason, I'd like to be recruited. IDGAF which alignment you are if there is one, recruit me anyway. On April 29 2014 07:01 Cephiro wrote: Mason group please recruit me. That's all for tonight. Dude is literally begging mafia to recruit him. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On April 29 2014 21:10 Koshi wrote: Why can you write this long post about your townreads but your scumreads have to wait??? I have never ever felt it was benefiacial when I had strong scumreads to write my townreads down first. Anyhoezels. You are already wrong on me and Foolishness is a good busstarget because he probably cba anymore and the rest of your scumreads are the opposite of what geript told the thread. So you are saying they killed geript for WIFOM? That shit rarely happens, and it really rarely happens to somebody who doesn't get nk early normally. Anyway. Your reads suck but I am very patiently awaiting your awesome cases. Make sure they are awesome. Scum reads are more important and should have lots of quotes and points imo. Like I would want to make one long post on each of the four scum reads (minus maybe slam because quoting his posts is almost always useless) I don't understand you thing on Foolishness he is a good bustarget for me? Also you are assuming geript was right and killed by scum what if he was night vigged? (Honestly I think this is unlikely but I felt his kill was off for scum until I saw that you used it to clear Oats Slam and yourself any one of you could make that kill and be like "hurray I'm clear" maybe even multiple of you! 3 | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
The reasoning that because I realized WHAT YOU DUMBASSES ALREADY SAID YOURSELVES is actually true makes me scum, is pure dumbassery on a level you both know better than and the fact that you push it so blatantly hypocritically makes you very likely scum. Odin has so not been reading the thread that he is also scum. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On April 29 2014 21:25 Tehpoofter wrote: Scum reads are more important and should have lots of quotes and points imo. Like I would want to make one long post on each of the four scum reads (minus maybe slam because quoting his posts is almost always useless) I don't understand you thing on Foolishness he is a good bustarget for me? Also you are assuming geript was right and killed by scum what if he was night vigged? (Honestly I think this is unlikely but I felt his kill was off for scum until I saw that you used it to clear Oats Slam and yourself any one of you could make that kill and be like "hurray I'm clear" maybe even multiple of you! 3 Teh you have been reading the qt more than thread imo | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On April 29 2014 21:22 Palmar wrote: that's not what I'm talking about, although there is a point to it. Dude is literally begging mafia to recruit him. I actually see your point here now when you said it earlier I didn't really catch it but I could definitely see this. BTW palmer read my Koshi case dude is scummy as shit and probably getting shot by me. Also what do you think of Foolishness? @austin/town what are your thoughts on day vig shots the no flip thing kinda sucks because I don't want to waste on someone who we won't know the alignment of ever. For me I feel like out of my list someone like Oats is a bad shot and a really good lynch because he gives us lots of information on a flip one way or the other. Get two days of good voting on him which is awesome. Also the fact that SNB flipped my role means that there is probably some other vigis floating around that might be red as I doubt town gets (at least) two day shots and mafia doesn't get any. I really am off to bed now I stayed up like an hour more than I intended because I had to quote like all of Koshi's posts cause every damn one was scummy. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On April 29 2014 21:13 Palmar wrote: Like does no one but me care that Ceph is literally claiming traitor? I noticed that too. The problem here is that I would not put it past Cephiro to do this as town for some weird ass play. He totally claimed traitor with the recruiting stuff and the "don't shoot me it's not worth it" etc. Do you think he would be this obvious as scum? I mean he is a decent shot don't get me wrong, but I am not sure about his alignment. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On April 29 2014 21:19 Tehpoofter wrote: So I'm about to head to bed after this post but I'll just say that I have a day shot and right now and its most likely getting used today people that were red in my first post are who I'm looking at. I think that Koshi/Foolishness 1 is town 1 is scum almost always. I think they're both too good to both be scum here but could easily feed off the other that is town in an attempt to pocket/shuck the blame on each other when things go south. Oats was the other lynch for yesterday he was at one point I believe tied with SNB. Austin brings up a really good point that Oats was saying caller was town for nuking Palmer and it was so dumb he couldn't be scum but then Oats voted Slam instantly for doing something similar without hesitation. Read austin's filter I was trying to find this post and turns out austin talks about Oats a lot so don't search the word "oats" I don't have much to add on the case as austin did I think a really good job on it. It was much stronger than the SNB case and I think it not getting pushed over was most likely mafia not wanting to. Slam - I can't read you. You shot in a weird in scummy way especially if multiple scum people show up in the voters that were on SNB at the time of Yam's threat. You are a question mark for me in every game we've ever played and that pushes you from "I have no clue" to "wow he did something scummy better lynch him" to me. My main reads however are Koshi and Foolishness (these are my two most likely shots today as I think a) they're the most scummy and b) I don't think town will be able to consolidate on one and they're unlikely to both be scum) I will make a bigger post when I wake up highlighting the scumminess with quotes and shit but for now: Koshi He made this case on SNB and it got band wagoned if he is town here he would be excited I think that SNB his scum read was going to get lynched and be pushing for it (look at how austin the town hero was pushing for Oats) he would be asking questions and trying to really get people on his side for the lynch because obviously finding scum is amazing. Instead Koshi posts such inspiring posts as: ^^ Good job here pre distancing from the lynch he started. He doesn't try to rally the town behind him ask others questions about his case the only thing he asked was to SNB "Am I scum?" He spends more time defending Oats than he does pushing his own lynch: + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 07:02 Koshi wrote: Why isn't Oats lynchbait? Small filter. AFK till lynch. On April 28 2014 07:03 Koshi wrote: I read Oats filter after reading austin case and I don't see the connection. The case is larger than his filter. On April 28 2014 07:07 Koshi wrote: Oats even has way bigger filters than this as mafia. He is a fucking hard catch normally. Look at all the games. He always is like last mafia standing. He doesn't try to give extra reasoning why SnB is scum he basically says he is scum gogogogog. Look at the way austin approached his lynch (imo super townie) and how Koshi did... he was pushing but not and defending the other lynch. I think its super likely Koshi and Oats are both mafia and thats why I put him ahead of Foolishness. The other thing Koshi has done since day 1 right after the night phase ended: He basically clears Oats and Slam because of geripts reads right after the shot and basically straight sheeps him with the Palmer read and now suddenly turns on Foolishness. Foolishness was right with him on day 1 on the lynch on SnB they were buddies he sheeped him instantly with his votes goign against his own reads. If Koshi/Oats/Slam are all mafia the geript shot was the best shot to make imo. I will post my Foolishness side of the coin tomorrow for now I need sleep and honestly after going through Koshi's filter again he looks so damn scummy its unreal. Koshi totes town. . Shoot Foolishness. FOLLOW SANDROBA AND GERIPT CONFIRMED TOWNED. I pushed SnB so hard as I could but somewhere I was also a bit meh about it. But there were no other options except Oats and I just didn't feel Oats as I felt SnB. If this wasn't majority lynch I would have parked my vote on Palmar and went to bed but Palmar wasn't happening. Obviously the lynch on SnB was "wrong" but my case wasn't the worst... I thought I was onto something. Yes, I pushed SnB the way I pushed him... You say it is mafialike but it really just is Koshilike. I do that a lot. Hmm. As scum I also don't really push lynches very hard. I don't play scum a lot but if you read SMB mini mafia you can see I am way more in the background concerning lynching. GoT was a really long time ago but same there. I was a strong voice in the SnB wagon and that is not my scum meta. True story. I just saw that normal ass mini mafia finished and I got shot N2 because I was right on reads (I think, I haven't read scum QT tbh and fuck that shitty game and shitty town), I wasn't right on all my reads but I was right on 1 scumread and 1 easy mislynch. Why was geript shot? It is geript. geript never gets shot N1. Looks like scum has 2 NK max 3 NK. geript was one of the guys scum wanted gone. Like. He must have been right on something right? You could say he might have been right on his Koshi read. But I tell you he wasn't. I am totes town. Give me time. Every game I proof to be more town if the game continues. No bullet for me. So what else could geript be right on? scumreads + townreads probably. Both Oats and Alakaslam are mislynches at least one is going to be town. Otherwise why shoot geript? Because WIFOM? Most likely not. Oats is lurking hardcore and Alakaslam just slipped on the Yamato kill. I KNOW. I READ IT. But still I respect the NK of geript. If you have to pick. Don't kill Koshi. Kill Foolishness. | ||
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Koshi
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Grrr. Ok I retract my townreads on Oats and on Alakaslam. FOOLISHNESS AND CEPHIRO STILL MAFIA Also probably JAT. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
ENDGAME BRAGGING RIGHTS. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On April 29 2014 21:26 Alakaslam wrote: Palmar, Ace. The reasoning that because I realized WHAT YOU DUMBASSES ALREADY SAID YOURSELVES is actually true makes me scum, is pure dumbassery on a level you both know better than and the fact that you push it so blatantly hypocritically makes you very likely scum. Odin has so not been reading the thread that he is also scum. I don't even know wtf you're saying. I think yamato was town. I don't know it. You seem to do. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Palmar. Go tell Poofter I am totes town. TOTES TOWN. | ||
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