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On April 22 2014 07:41 kushm4sta wrote:
looking into mderg now. what is your townread based on?
dont really have a town read, it's more of a null read. i see that he's sorta scummy but there's nothing huge that I think he should be lynched for
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how about the total lack of sucmhunting?
the complete focus on skanjab for bullshit reasons
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vivax's reasons are even worse.. says we should lynch him so this game doesnt end up like british II and toy story
and what scumhunting has vivax done besides that weak ass stuff on you?
they could both be scum tho. so idk how muich i care yet. i'll do due diligence on mderg's filter and decide.
what do you think about OTW? compared to vivax? who is scummier?
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Of course I bring up the mistakes bad townies make cause of my strong personal involvement in those games.
I pushed Dandel in british. I wanted to lynch Alakaslam for being unreadable in Toy Story, other townies actually thought I was scummy for pushing those targets who turned out to be scum, same is happening with you cause I'm pushing Skanja.
This game is no different and people like you don't learn from their mistakes so I have to remind them.
No, I'm not sure between Kush and mderg as the last scum. If it were so easy I would be sure, hence why we have to lynch skanja. He is by no means acting townie as you say.
Kush gave him a townread cause skanja said what he wanted to hear. He perfectly and completely imitated kush and thrawn's point of view in his townread post (Kush and thrawn town, everybody else scum). The fact that he mentions a flipped guy and a claimed vig among his townreads only displays that he's writing ANYTHING to appease people and give his scumbuddy a reason to townread him.
His reasons for the fakeclaim are complete bullshit:
On April 22 2014 06:48 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 06:22 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 22 2014 05:23 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 22 2014 01:11 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 21 2014 21:13 kushm4sta wrote:
Skan I agree with you.
See skan is the only one realistically thinking about the scum team. All the other possible scums are hinting at people like me because they know they need lynches outside the poe to win. Well that's just not true. It's the most simplistic thing in the world to give a list of names with no reasoning like skan has done and I strongly think Vivax is town. The only thing you've brought up is his questioning of your lynch order and that's mediocre at best compared to the entire filter of Skanjabs! What in my filter is scummy, specifically? I already posted about everyone, this is my point exactly! Nobody is reading the thread and the game right now feels a lot like the day 1 lynch where everyone is saying the name of who they want to lynch but not actually giving reasons! I honestly do not think Vivax is scum at all and the fact everyone is pushing him as scummy over people like skanjab1s and mderg when vivax was pretty much one of the top town reads for a lot of people is really odd. Vivax is the only one that tried to get discussion going in regards to the day 1 lynch and tried to get people to post reasons for their lynch he was also the only one to start discussions on the next few days when it was very quiet only to get shut down and called scum! If there's one thing I can be right about this game is that this feels really odd. Skanjab1s, I have you as scum for claiming vig as an excuse to cover up your lack of activity. You were very defensive on day 1 over everything and only mentioned FirmTofu once and then afk voted him only to return the next day and claim roleblock. If you are town which for some reason people say you are and aren't giving reasons you should be realising that things are wrong too! I claimed vig in the hopes that I'd get nk'd, because of my impending lack of activity.It would be a terrible scum tactic to claim vig to cover up lack of activity if, when I become inactive, I don't hold onto the vig claim. The vig claim would only help then if people still thought I was the vig.I'm not sure what you mean about being defensive over everything. I wasn't defensive at all, except for when I was responding to mderg's accusations. I thought there was way more time in the day when I voted firmtofu (I actually realised that I had voted him after the deadline when thrawn said so). It was supposed to be a pressuring vote to hear more from him, but I did think he was scum, I didn't know why he would fake knowing what I'd do as scum if he hadn't seen my scumgame.
The bolded is a perfect example of a bullshit reason. Why is it bullshit? Cause no matter if he claimed vig as town or scum, the effects would still be the same at this point, making his claim an advantage for a town skanja as well as a scum skanja, yet he turns it around saying that cause he has that advantage he has to be town while he wouldn't have it as scum...for what reasons??? No logic behind this post. It's another lie from a liar.
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vivax why do you think OTW is super town?
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Kush magically gets a townread from somebody like skanja only cause he writes "you and your thrawn buddy town, others scum". I don't buy that shit.
Vixax is not this bad and if he were town he'd be able to see how obviously townie kush is.
No, activity is roughly the same as in Dr Who and he started to emanate the same sort of bullshit confidence he did in that game. His reasons for townreading skanja are complete bogus and he should never be that confident that skanja could be town. Nobody else is and that should raise red flags.
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why do you think OTW is super town?
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On April 23 2014 00:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
vivax why do you think OTW is super town?
Cause he reads me as town and skanja as scum.
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Is that all you have to say?
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On April 22 2014 14:03 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 08:01 OmniEulogy wrote:On April 20 2014 20:44 thrawn2112 wrote:
well talk to him about it and not me. idk why you are expecting me to either accept your read on him or be able to fill in the gaps in his reads. because that is something i cannot do unless i am kush and i am town Anyway I took the above as meaning if Kush was town but I'm just making sure as it could also be interpreted as it was something you couldn't do because you aren't town. It drew a flag but I ignored it as I had you as town and I still do but I just want to make sure that I read this in particular correctly. yes you read it right. Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 10:10 Vivax wrote:
I'm voting Skanja and going to bed. If you really have to flip me before the liar, you know what to do afterwards. Lynch him and either kush or mderg, I'm still not sure on the both of them. posts like this are why i want to lynch vivax. so from a town vivax's point of view, this would be the best he can come up with? i don't buy it. The first major problem is that vivax isn't considering OTW as possible scum. He's not worried about OTW's alignment at all. In fact he hasn't mentioned OTW since D1. This doesn't have mean anything regarding OTW's alignment, my point is that vivax is not considering all possible suspects. I really really hate this post: Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 14:47 Vivax wrote:On April 20 2014 21:31 kushm4sta wrote:On April 20 2014 21:15 Vivax wrote:
That looks rather reasonableas answer, but remove me one curiosity: Why is Skanja last on your to-lynch list? Is there anything that makes you think he could be town after that fakeclaim? I think the fake claim itself leans town. I don't find his tone scummy. This doesn't make any sense and doesn't align with anything I've seen you doing in the last game where you were town. I claimed miller at the start of D1 and you went "I'll treat it as null cause Vivax has history of ballsy claims as scum". When skanja fakeclaims you see it as townie. You really gotta explain HOW in the world a dude fakeclaiming gets any town points for it, and it better be a good explanation. This game must not end up like British Empire II, or that last game on OMGUS. It's at danger of becoming another epithome of stupidity. British: Dandel trolls all game long and goes unnoticed for too long. On Omgus Alakaslam doesn't do shit all game long except jump on townie wagons and post his usual rubbish and I get lynched (by thrawn and kush) instead of him after claiming miller and we lose the game. And I was always there talking to a wall cause people just prefer to adher to a complex version of events where they end up making up by themselves why a townie is scum and a troll is town. In summary, we should lynch Skanja to not repeat the same mistake other stupid towns did, and figure out who the last scum is. And it's one of mderg or kush. If it's anyone outside of them they deserve to win. BE II and the omgus toy story game have nothing to do with skan's alignment. Here Vivax is appealing to the emotions of the people who lost BEII/TSM.
In addition to this, what I also find interesting, is that in the beginning of this, Vivax is equating me with him in the OMGUS game for our claims, where he claimed miller, and was lynched, and flipped town. And now, to stop a repeat of this happening he wants to lynch me (who fakeclaimed vig) because i'll flip...scum? That logic doesn't really add up.
On April 22 2014 23:50 Vivax wrote:Of course I bring up the mistakes bad townies make cause of my strong personal involvement in those games. I pushed Dandel in british. I wanted to lynch Alakaslam for being unreadable in Toy Story, other townies actually thought I was scummy for pushing those targets who turned out to be scum, same is happening with you cause I'm pushing Skanja. This game is no different and people like you don't learn from their mistakes so I have to remind them. No, I'm not sure between Kush and mderg as the last scum. If it were so easy I would be sure, hence why we have to lynch skanja. He is by no means acting townie as you say. Kush gave him a townread cause skanja said what he wanted to hear. He perfectly and completely imitated kush and thrawn's point of view in his townread post (Kush and thrawn town, everybody else scum). The fact that he mentions a flipped guy and a claimed vig among his townreads only displays that he's writing ANYTHING to appease people and give his scumbuddy a reason to townread him. His reasons for the fakeclaim are complete bullshit: Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 06:48 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 22 2014 06:22 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 22 2014 05:23 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 22 2014 01:11 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 21 2014 21:13 kushm4sta wrote:
Skan I agree with you.
See skan is the only one realistically thinking about the scum team. All the other possible scums are hinting at people like me because they know they need lynches outside the poe to win. Well that's just not true. It's the most simplistic thing in the world to give a list of names with no reasoning like skan has done and I strongly think Vivax is town. The only thing you've brought up is his questioning of your lynch order and that's mediocre at best compared to the entire filter of Skanjabs! What in my filter is scummy, specifically? I already posted about everyone, this is my point exactly! Nobody is reading the thread and the game right now feels a lot like the day 1 lynch where everyone is saying the name of who they want to lynch but not actually giving reasons! I honestly do not think Vivax is scum at all and the fact everyone is pushing him as scummy over people like skanjab1s and mderg when vivax was pretty much one of the top town reads for a lot of people is really odd. Vivax is the only one that tried to get discussion going in regards to the day 1 lynch and tried to get people to post reasons for their lynch he was also the only one to start discussions on the next few days when it was very quiet only to get shut down and called scum! If there's one thing I can be right about this game is that this feels really odd. Skanjab1s, I have you as scum for claiming vig as an excuse to cover up your lack of activity. You were very defensive on day 1 over everything and only mentioned FirmTofu once and then afk voted him only to return the next day and claim roleblock. If you are town which for some reason people say you are and aren't giving reasons you should be realising that things are wrong too! I claimed vig in the hopes that I'd get nk'd, because of my impending lack of activity.It would be a terrible scum tactic to claim vig to cover up lack of activity if, when I become inactive, I don't hold onto the vig claim. The vig claim would only help then if people still thought I was the vig.I'm not sure what you mean about being defensive over everything. I wasn't defensive at all, except for when I was responding to mderg's accusations. I thought there was way more time in the day when I voted firmtofu (I actually realised that I had voted him after the deadline when thrawn said so). It was supposed to be a pressuring vote to hear more from him, but I did think he was scum, I didn't know why he would fake knowing what I'd do as scum if he hadn't seen my scumgame. The bolded is a perfect example of a bullshit reason. Why is it bullshit? Cause no matter if he claimed vig as town or scum, the effects would still be the same at this point, making his claim an advantage for a town skanja as well as a scum skanja, yet he turns it around saying that cause he has that advantage he has to be town while he wouldn't have it as scum...for what reasons??? No logic behind this post. It's another lie from a liar.
Okay, explain how there is an advantage of me fake-claiming vig as scum, at this point in the game. Because this is the only reason you are able to give as to why I'm scum. That doesn't sound like much of an advantage at all. Also, please explain how my logic here is bullshit?
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skan what is your best guess for 3rd scum and why?
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It's one of OTW/mderg. And it's basically just PoE, I have strong townreads on everyone else in the game and they're the ones that I haven't had any town-feels from.
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On April 23 2014 00:42 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 14:03 thrawn2112 wrote:On April 22 2014 08:01 OmniEulogy wrote:On April 20 2014 20:44 thrawn2112 wrote:
well talk to him about it and not me. idk why you are expecting me to either accept your read on him or be able to fill in the gaps in his reads. because that is something i cannot do unless i am kush and i am town Anyway I took the above as meaning if Kush was town but I'm just making sure as it could also be interpreted as it was something you couldn't do because you aren't town. It drew a flag but I ignored it as I had you as town and I still do but I just want to make sure that I read this in particular correctly. yes you read it right. On April 22 2014 10:10 Vivax wrote:
I'm voting Skanja and going to bed. If you really have to flip me before the liar, you know what to do afterwards. Lynch him and either kush or mderg, I'm still not sure on the both of them. posts like this are why i want to lynch vivax. so from a town vivax's point of view, this would be the best he can come up with? i don't buy it. The first major problem is that vivax isn't considering OTW as possible scum. He's not worried about OTW's alignment at all. In fact he hasn't mentioned OTW since D1. This doesn't have mean anything regarding OTW's alignment, my point is that vivax is not considering all possible suspects. I really really hate this post: On April 21 2014 14:47 Vivax wrote:On April 20 2014 21:31 kushm4sta wrote:On April 20 2014 21:15 Vivax wrote:
That looks rather reasonableas answer, but remove me one curiosity: Why is Skanja last on your to-lynch list? Is there anything that makes you think he could be town after that fakeclaim? I think the fake claim itself leans town. I don't find his tone scummy. This doesn't make any sense and doesn't align with anything I've seen you doing in the last game where you were town. I claimed miller at the start of D1 and you went "I'll treat it as null cause Vivax has history of ballsy claims as scum". When skanja fakeclaims you see it as townie. You really gotta explain HOW in the world a dude fakeclaiming gets any town points for it, and it better be a good explanation. This game must not end up like British Empire II, or that last game on OMGUS. It's at danger of becoming another epithome of stupidity. British: Dandel trolls all game long and goes unnoticed for too long. On Omgus Alakaslam doesn't do shit all game long except jump on townie wagons and post his usual rubbish and I get lynched (by thrawn and kush) instead of him after claiming miller and we lose the game. And I was always there talking to a wall cause people just prefer to adher to a complex version of events where they end up making up by themselves why a townie is scum and a troll is town. In summary, we should lynch Skanja to not repeat the same mistake other stupid towns did, and figure out who the last scum is. And it's one of mderg or kush. If it's anyone outside of them they deserve to win. BE II and the omgus toy story game have nothing to do with skan's alignment. Here Vivax is appealing to the emotions of the people who lost BEII/TSM. In addition to this, what I also find interesting, is that in the beginning of this, Vivax is equating me with him in the OMGUS game for our claims, where he claimed miller, and was lynched, and flipped town. And now, to stop a repeat of this happening he wants to lynch me (who fakeclaimed vig) because i'll flip...scum? That logic doesn't really add up. Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 23:50 Vivax wrote:Of course I bring up the mistakes bad townies make cause of my strong personal involvement in those games. I pushed Dandel in british. I wanted to lynch Alakaslam for being unreadable in Toy Story, other townies actually thought I was scummy for pushing those targets who turned out to be scum, same is happening with you cause I'm pushing Skanja. This game is no different and people like you don't learn from their mistakes so I have to remind them. No, I'm not sure between Kush and mderg as the last scum. If it were so easy I would be sure, hence why we have to lynch skanja. He is by no means acting townie as you say. Kush gave him a townread cause skanja said what he wanted to hear. He perfectly and completely imitated kush and thrawn's point of view in his townread post (Kush and thrawn town, everybody else scum). The fact that he mentions a flipped guy and a claimed vig among his townreads only displays that he's writing ANYTHING to appease people and give his scumbuddy a reason to townread him. His reasons for the fakeclaim are complete bullshit: On April 22 2014 06:48 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 22 2014 06:22 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 22 2014 05:23 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 22 2014 01:11 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 21 2014 21:13 kushm4sta wrote:
Skan I agree with you.
See skan is the only one realistically thinking about the scum team. All the other possible scums are hinting at people like me because they know they need lynches outside the poe to win. Well that's just not true. It's the most simplistic thing in the world to give a list of names with no reasoning like skan has done and I strongly think Vivax is town. The only thing you've brought up is his questioning of your lynch order and that's mediocre at best compared to the entire filter of Skanjabs! What in my filter is scummy, specifically? I already posted about everyone, this is my point exactly! Nobody is reading the thread and the game right now feels a lot like the day 1 lynch where everyone is saying the name of who they want to lynch but not actually giving reasons! I honestly do not think Vivax is scum at all and the fact everyone is pushing him as scummy over people like skanjab1s and mderg when vivax was pretty much one of the top town reads for a lot of people is really odd. Vivax is the only one that tried to get discussion going in regards to the day 1 lynch and tried to get people to post reasons for their lynch he was also the only one to start discussions on the next few days when it was very quiet only to get shut down and called scum! If there's one thing I can be right about this game is that this feels really odd. Skanjab1s, I have you as scum for claiming vig as an excuse to cover up your lack of activity. You were very defensive on day 1 over everything and only mentioned FirmTofu once and then afk voted him only to return the next day and claim roleblock. If you are town which for some reason people say you are and aren't giving reasons you should be realising that things are wrong too! I claimed vig in the hopes that I'd get nk'd, because of my impending lack of activity.It would be a terrible scum tactic to claim vig to cover up lack of activity if, when I become inactive, I don't hold onto the vig claim. The vig claim would only help then if people still thought I was the vig.I'm not sure what you mean about being defensive over everything. I wasn't defensive at all, except for when I was responding to mderg's accusations. I thought there was way more time in the day when I voted firmtofu (I actually realised that I had voted him after the deadline when thrawn said so). It was supposed to be a pressuring vote to hear more from him, but I did think he was scum, I didn't know why he would fake knowing what I'd do as scum if he hadn't seen my scumgame. The bolded is a perfect example of a bullshit reason. Why is it bullshit? Cause no matter if he claimed vig as town or scum, the effects would still be the same at this point, making his claim an advantage for a town skanja as well as a scum skanja, yet he turns it around saying that cause he has that advantage he has to be town while he wouldn't have it as scum...for what reasons??? No logic behind this post. It's another lie from a liar. Okay, explain how there is an advantage of me fake-claiming vig as scum, at this point in the game. Because this is the only reason you are able to give as to why I'm scum. That doesn't sound like much of an advantage at all. Also, please explain how my logic here is bullshit?
My miller claim was real. Yours was fake. On omgus I got lynched over Alakaslam,now I'm at danger at getting lynched over a liar who never was of any help to the game, who never tried to take influence over a lynch for good or for bad.
Claiming vig will not get you NKd and you should know that. The only reason you would do that is to get a CC or do it yourself, fake a shot using scum KP like I did in some games, get a free pass D1 on top of everything.
You say the vig fakeclaim would be terrible scum play. So, what would be different at this point between the version where you're scum and the version where you're town? How didn't the vig claim work out for you? Do nothing D1, get a chance of finding out who the vig is D1, say you hoped to get NKd when it turns out your claim was fake.
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On April 23 2014 00:14 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 00:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
vivax why do you think OTW is super town? Cause he reads me as town and skanja as scum.
so does this guy
On April 22 2014 09:04 mderg wrote:
I really don´t get why people want to lynch Vivax. I´m clearly reading him as town. I mean he was strongly against lynching cav who we now know was town. He was pretty much all over the place while still pushing his scumreads, for me that´s pretty townie. He was also one of the first guys to push OO who turned out to be scum and now he wants to lynch skan which I 100% agree with. Honestly, to me Vivax doesn´t seem scummy at all. It feels as if someone just randomly said he was scummy and suddenly everyone agreed despite reading him as town beforehand.
I´m still very much for lynching skan, maybe I´m focusing on him too much, but I really can´t see any reason why he would be town.
yet you dont read him as town, so try again
why is OTW so townie?
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btw I'm about to sleep and I might not wake till just a bit before the deadline
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You would understand why I said that if you understood what I wrote about kush bullshit reading skanja for the exact same reason. Seeing how thick you are in realizing we both did the exact same thing, you are henceforth ignored, thrawn.
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On April 23 2014 00:55 Skanjab1s wrote:
It's one of OTW/mderg. And it's basically just PoE, I have strong townreads on everyone else in the game and they're the ones that I haven't had any town-feels from.
What made you change your mind about your D1 read on kush?
What posts.
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Skanjab1s (2): OmniEulogy, Vivax
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