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On March 28 2014 00:32 Palmar wrote: oh and: Wotc: hydras Much rather deal with Foolishness posting relatively little than the hydra thing. I think hydras make games worse. I absolutely agree. | ||
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On April 02 2014 00:03 Koshi wrote: Europe wont be leading the lynch. wow. scary stuff. ![]() | ||
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On April 03 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Robik your read on Wave is wrong. Troll or serious? | ||
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On April 03 2014 09:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: srsbznz. i don't joke on reads, ever. Seems legit. | ||
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On April 03 2014 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote: + Show Spoiler [Mini-rant and off-topic sorry ![]() I really hope this doesn't turn into every mini played in the last few months. I mean I know it likely won't 'cause GreYMisT game, but the Rayn/marv dynamics have made things quite stale. So what do you propose? That they shouldn't be allowed to play in the same game? Why is rayns read on robik shitty yamato? | ||
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On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote: Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too. Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends. I disagree. So the actual reads are not the problem here? | ||
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On April 03 2014 09:55 IAmRobik wrote: oh...dandelion still fucking sucks at this game. There's a fucking shocker. Not again please. You both sucked for fighting like that. | ||
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On April 03 2014 10:01 IAmRobik wrote: I mean...he's prolly town again, but that doesn't mean that he's playing well or that he's right. He was pretty obvious town at some point in foundations too...that didn't mean that all he wanted to do all game was lynch townies Then maybe you should stop antagonizing him, hm? | ||
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On April 03 2014 10:03 IAmRobik wrote: He started the game by quoting every one of my posts and saying that I'm scum for them. He's clearly just bitter about the fact that I called him out for being a d-bag last game and he's continuing the fucking feud cause he has nothing better to do with his life. Or maybe it just pleases him to make you rage. Ever thought of that? Just ignore the guy... | ||
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On April 03 2014 10:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have reasoning for my reads and yamato is not interested in finding out why i say stuff i do. Oh, if that's the case I would like to hear your WoS reasoning. | ||
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On April 03 2014 10:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Koshi wants something.. I think candies... yes candies.. The candies are bad! You're evil. | ||
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On April 03 2014 11:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: This whole conversation is weird because why i read Wave as town should be more clear than why i read Robik as town and i don't know why JAT is interested in my Wave read and not on my Robik read. No, it is not clear to me. At least it wasn't when I asked the question. The Robik read I could understand much better. | ||
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Because he opened very similar as town before (giving strong reads for very small things). Also he seemed kinda genuine with his happiness. | ||
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I don't think there is no reason to post early gut reads. It is much more useful than proposing a random lynch for example. | ||
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On April 03 2014 11:58 Killing wrote: So you think gut reads are better than just saying nothing and random lynching yet you've said nothing? I think everything you've said so far has been incredibly fluffly. You had the smiley read that was incredibly random and then your explanation for why you asked the reasoning for WoS vs Robik was bad as well. You stated that you asked for the reason on the WoS read because robik opened the exact same way. Then why do you prod him about it if you get where he's coming from. After that you go into traffic cop mode trying to settle the dispute between DI and Rob. You're my top scumread so far so I'd love to actually hear some content rather than all of this fluff. Seriously dude? You are contradicting yourself in the first part of your post... if I give a random read then that is more than most people here did. Maybe you should explain why my reasoning is bad instead of just throwing shit. I don't even know what you are talking about here. I never said WoS and Robik opened the same way?! | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:06 Oatsmaster wrote: I think its completely useless to talk about the button now. Stop. I agree. As long as nobody has any information about what it does talking about it seems stupid. | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:14 Killing wrote: You wanted to know the reasoning of the WoS read but never asked for the robik one. I never said that you read them the same way. It seemed that you were curious about the WoS read but then you didn't really care about why he read Rob town. Your only read has been that you liked the smiley thing so I wouldn't agree than "that is more than most people here did". I did ask because I did not follow the WoS read while I thought I understood the robik read. Like I already said. Maybe you should read what I say. I also never said that I like the smiley read I just know that it is a thing for them. Why is it scummy for me to only question one of rayns reads? Explain. | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:21 Killing wrote: You care about the reasoning of one but not the other is weird. I won't explain it a third time. So now it is weird? I swear a few minutes ago it was scummy. | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:23 LSB wrote: Excellent point VE, it is important to establish lexiconically that CATASTROPHE is the official correct way to describe the result of pressing the button. Catashrophe is acceptable as a short hand, as well as "The town initiative for a better tomorrow" For example: We must push the town button so we can cause CATASTROPHE for the betterment of the town. Anything not button related to say? | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:27 Killing wrote: There's a few possible scenarios if you're scum. You could be waiting for someone to give a read that might end up being wrong in the end if they flip scum, you might want to pidgeon hole them into a read that you hope will make them look scummy. You're still my top scum read because of the amount of fluff and the feigning participation you've done. | ||
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Maybe it's because it is really late and I am tired but I don't understand what you are saying at all. You think I ask for only one read to bait someone else into giving a wrong read on what exactly? Seems pretty stupid to me. | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:31 Killing wrote: I don't think it's stupid at all. I do that shit all the time. If you're town, you should move on and play townie because that's the only thing that will change my mind tbh. If you think that I am responding to this because I want to convince you about my alignment then you are mistaken friend. I want to know how you try to justify this bullshit to read YOU. | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:38 Killing wrote: Dude, you called my reasoning stupid and I really could give a shit if you think it's stupid. I'm not interested in arguing over it at this point. Neither am I but as long as you can't explain it to me I think you are just trying to throw shit on me. | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:47 Keirathi wrote: It seems like Killing's basic argument boils down to something like this: *Teacher puts 2 math problems on the board* Guy 1: "Can you explain that first one again? I don't get it." Teacher: "Okay, here you go!" Guy 1: "Thanks, I got it now." ................... Guy 2: "Wait, why didn't you ask for the explanation to both the problems? WHAT IS GOING ON WHY ARE YOU FAKING IT?" Guy 1: "Because I only didn't understand the first one." Guy 2: "DIE SCUM LIAR". Ok, but Guy 2 is a tool then. | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:51 VisceraEyes wrote: He's not a tool he's just spirited! Don't be rude. The problem is if Guy 2 is not a tool then he should be able to explain why Guy 1 is a scum liar for what he did instead of yelling. | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: But how does the situation differ if the teacher put the problem on a table instead? Now you are being silly. ![]() | ||
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On April 03 2014 20:31 Koshi wrote: I am currently on page 16 and there is a giant cat holding a taxi. I will be looking at that picture for the next 5 hours. Then I will be able to read the thread. Don't ever change. | ||
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On April 03 2014 20:25 Holyflare wrote: Let's win then! Tell me what the most fun tl game mechanic was! How does that help win the game? | ||
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On April 03 2014 21:36 Holyflare wrote: What is the most fun tl mafia game mechanic jat? What's the deal? I probably missed the really fun mechanics because I never played in the heavily themed games besides hogwarts. | ||
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On April 03 2014 21:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno. I don't think Robert is mafia. marv will be clearer read laterz. But austin.. man dat red star! Ok, that's the third time you mention it. Could you show the post you are talking about and explain? | ||
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On April 03 2014 21:45 Palmar wrote: Palmar doesn't forget, palmar intentionally leaves out. What does Palmar think about rayn then? He defended scumbrik and scumarv, you know. | ||
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On April 03 2014 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Could you point out where did i defend marv? You postponed your read on him. I was mainly joking - didn't expect Palmar to give useful answer tbh, | ||
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On April 03 2014 22:02 marvellosity wrote: I noticed this too and found it pretty strange. But I don't see why it's mafia-strange. austin is prone to making really stupid reads based on nothing (sorry my love). And of all the things to give a townread for, that one seems particularly stupid. So stupid in fact that making it as mafia seems far-fetched, because surely it's going to get you flak. So while I can agree that the paragraph is poo-poo, you'll have to tell me exactly why it's red poo-poo. So you are leaning towards the brainz explanation I take it. | ||
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Based town hero! | ||
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On April 03 2014 22:16 Palmar wrote: Townies who are also good at this game: snb hf palmar iamp wos scraps Jesters: rayn Scum: marv ve robik Robik - bussing like a mofo. | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:24 marvellosity wrote: NO. I am *so* bored of mafia rolling over. And still you complain if I say your games have been boring to observe. | ||
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Then you should probably question marv and not robik, hm? | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:09 IAmRobik wrote: Killing is DEFINITELY town. If you think otherwise, go read Foundations. Wut? He was scum that game and hasn't played a town forum game afaik. Bad approach to meta him like that. On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote: if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment i dont like people like that syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me? You have my axe. | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:17 marvellosity wrote: It's precisely the reason I have him marked as light town as well, actually Well that's funny because Robik didn't even give an explicit reason. | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: He thought he found something and got caught in the moment of distraction. Pretty obvious. He couldn't even explain whatever it was he was thinking... | ||
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Ok. Tell me. | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Just because he is wrong / you think he is stupid and/or saying bad doesn't mean he didn't explain himself because he quite clearly did. Well, what did he say then rayn? You seem to know. | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:41 Dandel Ion wrote: at this point in time i should add Maybe your radar is off. Or it is because people don't townread me that early most of the time. Foundation was an exception there. | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: He said you caring about the reasoning on one read but not the other is weird. Then he said you might be scum for it because you could be waiting for someone to give a read that might end up being wrong in the end if they flip scum, you might want to pidgeon hole them into a read that you hope will make them look scummy. You're still my top scum read because of the amount of fluff and the feigning participation you've done. I think that's a pretty clear explanation to what he thinks. If I want to read what he said I can look that up myself. The point is that it makes no sense. I don't see the connection between asking for one read and the baiting part - I don't understand it at all and no, he didn't explain it. Am I being dumb here? | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: EBWOP: ..or does it make sense or not. That was not where i was commenting on because i don't think he was on the same page with you. But he DID explain himself, that's what i was saying, not that he made sense.. My point was that he wasn't explaining what I just asked you. Whatever, I will drop it for now and see what he does next. | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:52 Dandel Ion wrote: from my experience, what you should be looking for is whether he does something next or not Really? | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well maybe you are on page 1 he is on page 2 and i am on page 3. idk. Anyways if you have a problem with him ask him. lynch austin? i have a really good case on him. Your case didn't really convince me to be honest. But I expect more from town austin than what he did this game. | ||
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You point out inconsistencies/a weak read but I don't see how they have to come from mafia necessarily. | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I pointed out behavior that shows austin is giving his thoughts on something he doesn't even think through properly. That is scummy. Not necessarily enough to make him 100% mafia but him showing this exact same behavior in his last mafia game points even more towards him being mafia. In his last mafia game he was really obvious. I don't see that yet - he needs to post more before I am able to read him. | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:21 marvellosity wrote: rayn is pretty town. Agreed. | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: You shouldn't have said this Plammer is gonna put you into scumpile. ![]() Oh shit. Do I get lynched now? ![]() | ||
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Instant scumpile. | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:37 Palmar wrote: I am foreigner too. Much to learn in this language. I must pledge myself to my studies. I must not falter, one day I will become like my master... ... OatsMASTER. Not Kushmasta? | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:40 Koshi wrote: I am going to make sure my vote is on correct place. I will just be not very active. Living on the edge. No, I am not a fan. | ||
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On April 04 2014 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I told jat and marv, who were following the last game, that in my opinion they should pay more attention to what i say. Not that it makes you scum austin. my case is what it is. It is that you comment on things that you have not thought through. You make conclusions based on something you have not read properly. If you post conclusions on somthing i would expect you to think why people say what they do (in this case yamato and me). You are clearly not doing so, but you are STILL posting conclusions. If you think I am not paying attention to what you are saying then you are just wrong. You aren't always right/what you say doesn't always make sense. The austin post in question and your case just didn't give me anything. You could be right on marv but I will reserve judgement until he does something. | ||
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But you would be even more comfortable if BH was lynched. Admit it. | ||
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On April 04 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote: I never have a townfeeling on JAT. Liar. On April 04 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote: I'm fairly sure it was Noir. Hogwarts was even worse. I am way more content with this game today - finally a whole bunch of townreads. Would be down to lynch Koshi for not being obvious town Koshi, Killing or sheep marv/sandro on Paperscraps. | ||
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No idea. I actually only skimmed some of his posts... This argument with dandel for example is so useless. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:02 marvellosity wrote: Holyflare may or may not remain sandro's preferred lynch, so I suggest you try to find an idea. If it comes to this I will but I don't see that many votes on him. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:03 Koshi wrote: It's not a lie. I am pretty sure I didn't have one on you in Noir or Hogwarts. I don't remember any other games we played in, other than the one you were scum in and I totes called you scum. So. where is lie? PYP? | ||
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In the Newbie we played too. Why can't we be bros this game? | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:09 marvellosity wrote: My filter really is amazing Your filter is also quite big. So that's a no I guess. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:10 marvellosity wrote: It happened less than an hour ago, so how you missed it on your catchup of the thread is anyone's guess. Probably hidden in a stupid argument. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:12 Holyflare wrote: So you're going to neglect reading me because....? There's votes one me. You just stated that my argument with dandel is useless so you have no idea what I've done but you don't want to bother looking into me...? If you insist I will. | ||
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Still no strong opinion. Won't lynch over Paperscraps atm. I don't like how he went on Robik/dandel all day who are both pretty townie in my eyes. He didn't do much besides that. But he said he started playing today so I would give him some time - at least he commented on a few different people since then. Also he seems to have a possibly important role that could help town. His alignment could also become clearer by his usage of that role. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:28 marvellosity wrote: The people I won't lynch today under any circumstances: rayn/Dandel/syllogism/iamp/IAmRobik/sandroba/jat* *jat purely because he made me lol re: holy's filter, not because i find him particularly townie. syllogism doesn't look amazingly townie but i don't think he's as useless as people are suggesting and there's no way i take that risk on day 1 based on what i've seen. I really like that list. Looks almost exactly like mine. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:40 Koshi wrote: You also don't want to lynch the guy that is already dead? nice. What a useful comment Koshi. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:43 kitaman27 wrote: Change on read town read to null? Not a huge deal to me. Why? He includes the posts he found townie in his explanation for the null read. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:54 kitaman27 wrote: How is he my third scummiest dude? These players are higher up on the chopping block for me: iamp Amiko Hope killing syllo Keirathi and maybe Koshi (VE?) Keirathi and iamp... I heavily disagree here. | ||
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I think it's more likely that you are evul. ![]() | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:55 justanothertownie wrote: Keirathi and iamp... I heavily disagree here. Oh and syllo too. | ||
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On April 04 2014 22:05 Palmar wrote: I will not vote townbuddy scrapspaper What happened? | ||
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On April 05 2014 00:38 Palmar wrote: Oatsmaster the emperor asked me to vote. Only rayn the prophet can make me change my mind now. I somehow doubt he can. | ||
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On April 05 2014 00:47 Holyflare wrote: and i don't care if antagonising robik was terrible he was a dick and full of himself last game and i relish in the opportunity to anger those kinds of people Dandel-tier. | ||
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On April 05 2014 00:49 Koshi wrote: So radiation. Good or bad? I think bad. Also my supercool cult QT is still not talking. I give them 1 more hour before I spill the beans. You should spill the beans now. | ||
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Because I am curious. | ||
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On April 05 2014 01:09 Killing wrote: Does this game take place on a ranch? Dunno. Are you a donkey? People are voting Paperscraps because he changed his read on poofter without any new evidence and didn't give a reasoning for it. | ||
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On April 05 2014 01:35 marvellosity wrote: You do realise he claimed that he came across an item that required him to write backwards, right? So at the very least he would be lying in order to write backwards? Not only that. There still were people who said that he would do this to troll. | ||
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On April 05 2014 01:38 marvellosity wrote: well Killing seems to be missing that whole thing when he says "people are implying that his role requires it" when he specifically wrote the reasoning in the thread. I know. What I am saying is that he ALSO missed how people said Paperscraps would do this for fun. | ||
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On April 05 2014 02:20 Koshi wrote: I really can't shoot djodref though. Last game I lynched him on the same day his cat died. Really sad stuff. Yes, yes you can. | ||
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On April 05 2014 02:43 Killing wrote: The guy claimed horse. I'm not a horse. Are you a horse? So? | ||
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On April 05 2014 02:47 Killing wrote: Well if you're not a horse then you have no idea what the implications of being a horse have on this game. That should make you AFRAID and/or NERVOUS as what they could do to you. Maybe they can pull town to Transylvania or some shit i don't know this game is crazy. Exactly. | ||
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On April 05 2014 02:51 Killing wrote: I am town I am not horse Other town have not claimed horse Other horse have not claimed town One horse claimed anti-town How can you just write exactly? Exactly what? We know nothing about horses. Can a horse tell us what makes them horses? I bolded what I was responding to. We know nothing about it so why would you assume VA is scum by default? | ||
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On April 05 2014 02:56 Killing wrote: He's not scum, he's probably 3p. That's why I assume VA's role is bad for us. Because he said so. Maybe. We should be lynching scum though. | ||
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On April 05 2014 03:00 Amiko wrote: Robik I don't feel his play lines up much with his play in Newbie LIV. I observed that game and was pretty attentive. For one, he seemed reluctant to fake claim a role; that is one of the reasons I felt he was serious about being immune to nightkills. His aggression varies a lot from game to game. In my first newbie game I played with Robik and he was pretty pleasant, but I've seem him go aggro in other games. I still think he is most likely to be a 3rd party, potentially scum, so I wouldn't want to kill him. @IAmRobik let's win together? Huh? I don't see how the bolded leads you to a scumread and if you think he is potentially scum I don't understand why you don't want to kill him. | ||
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On April 05 2014 03:09 Amiko wrote: @JAT I feel Robik is unlikely to be town because he claimed to be immune to nightkills. If he is town, he should want mafia to target him to soak KP. I feel Robik's claim was not joking for a few reasons, but among them it's because I feel he is a player who is reluctant to fakeclaim. Another reason: it feels more believable since kita also claimed to be immune to nightkills. So, I feel he is 3p or scum, more likely 3p because I don't think scum would claim it so early. I don't see why town would claim it at all. But why would scum/3rd party claim it? | ||
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On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote: Ummmm, what else. Oh right. If I'm alive tonight, I'm going to be using my night action on Joey (it's nothing bad). I suggest no one target Joey or myself. It might turn out poorly for you. Do you think he is lying? If he is not lying then claiming this as scum wouldn't be very smart, would it? | ||
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On April 05 2014 03:39 Amiko wrote: - Mafia deter shots from themselves via this claim from vigis/3p. So, vigis shooting are more likely to hit town. - 3p same thing; except they probably don't care who dies. (rayn's roleclaim suggested he needed some other 3p though) - 3p indicates their alignment to prepare to joint win By the way, pretty much everything I am saying about Robik also applies to kitaman27 and generally, I think. So you think Robik is lying about being immune and also mafia/3rd party together with Killing? | ||
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On April 05 2014 03:45 Amiko wrote: I tend to think he is immune because in the only scum game I read of Robik he considered fakeclaiming but then hesitated and ultimately didn't do so. I think that reflects some discomfort with fakeclaiming, so I don't think he is likely to do so d1 when he doesn't have to do so. Nothing specific I can think of to say about robik/killing right now, sorry. If you think he isn't fakeclaiming - isn't it a protown thing to tell town that targeting him/Killing could be harmful? I don't see what mafia gains by doing so. | ||
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On April 05 2014 03:53 LSB wrote: Mafia has much more KP than town, though in this case there is probably zero chance that mafia would waste KP on him. So I wouldn't call it alignment indicative From a third party perspective maybe. But if he is mafia then mafia knows what's up without him telling the thread. It makes no sense then. | ||
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On April 05 2014 03:54 Koshi wrote: Foolishness. I am going to shoot somebody you dislike. Didn't you just say today we do what marv wants? And earlier you would shoot who is the most popular target? | ||
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And you could win a lynch if you do the wrong thing... | ||
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On April 05 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Well, as fervently as I expect Foolishness to participate, sure. Do you disagree? I don't think that is the best word to describe his play. | ||
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On April 05 2014 04:28 VisceraEyes wrote: How about with the qualifier that he is working within the confines of a posting restriction (self-imposed or no)? I don't care. | ||
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On April 05 2014 04:35 VisceraEyes wrote: K then I'm just not gonna pseudo-defend Foolishness anymore. K? Feel free to decide that yourself. | ||
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On April 05 2014 04:38 Koshi wrote: Question. Is marv/Jat more fun then rayn/koshi? Answer. No What is that supposed to mean? | ||
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On April 05 2014 05:10 Paperscraps wrote: .up this brought t'haven Robik ,Killing ,Tehpoofter surprised am I .wolves the to sheep lead and mafia as town pro super play I .now right me before kneeling by all would you ,mafia was I if that realize do guys You And as town you suck? | ||
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On April 05 2014 05:14 Paperscraps wrote: .bros open more be to have You .1 day scum lynch to going are you how not is That .on going bias confirmation of tons have and minded-closed are You .site this on linear so play you of lot A Maybe you should present us a better target then if your logic is that superior. And I mean a target with reasoning that goes further than "read his filter". | ||
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On April 05 2014 05:20 Paperscraps wrote: .bad = thinking linear/Static .said I Like .player a as developed have I since changed as play mafia My You think antagonizing/lecturing people will get them off your wagon? | ||
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On April 05 2014 05:26 Paperscraps wrote: ?lynched be to about are they when do to scum for tactic smart a is that think you Do About as smart as town when you are about to get lynched. | ||
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On April 05 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote: OK. I'm about to catch up. The only thing I want everyone to note is that foolishness is complaining a lot about the spam, but like 95% of the words that he posts are just filler. He BARELY gives opinions on anything -- the only real stances that I can remember him taking were 1) iamp being mafia and 2) he read someone town earlier, but I forget who it was. Please do not be fooled by the long "newspaper" posts that he's making. THEY HAVE VERY VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO THEM! Sherlock on the case. | ||
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On April 05 2014 06:51 marvellosity wrote: maybe we should honour the dead rayn and lynch austin :o I would be down. | ||
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On April 05 2014 07:07 IAmRobik wrote: Cool. Let's just roll scum like we did in Heavyweight Champ. Remember, I am the shepherd and you are my sheep You are a funny guy. | ||
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Then you 2 have some convincing to do. Not that I wouldn't lynch Amiko but you need 15 (!) votes on him or you are just wasting yours. | ||
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On April 05 2014 07:49 IAmRobik wrote: There's no lynch if we don't have 15 votes? Why wouldn't it just go to the highest target? That's so dumb/bad/blah/etc. I can't imagine us lynching correctly then Majority voting. See the OP. | ||
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On April 05 2014 07:49 Paperscraps wrote: .nose my off skin No .t'don or yourself Convince I feel a sudden urge to switch back to this guy. | ||
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On April 05 2014 08:17 Holyflare wrote: That's totally what mafia do. Call someone 3p/unlikely mafia but then claim mafia. Right? Right? He didn't call him unlikely mafia. | ||
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On April 05 2014 08:18 Keirathi wrote: Ugh we need a town hero to step up and make a decision. Since Sandro is away it is marvs job to do so. | ||
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On April 05 2014 08:22 Keirathi wrote: Wait what? You've been saying Joey (Killing, right?) was town the whole game? Typo I assume, but just making sure. Read his filter and you will understand. | ||
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On April 05 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote: So you don't find it odd that he never mentions paperscraps at all until i point it out at which point he makes a whole narrative about him and paperscraps 3 hours before the deadline saying paperscraps most likely town? How does that mean he claims to be in a qt in any way? I don't follow your logic. | ||
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On April 05 2014 08:42 Holyflare wrote: I asked about the qt because of the narrative, it actually looked plausible that they were in a qt. Now i know they aren't it makes Foolishness weird for saying all of that so late in the day. Ok, carry on. | ||
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On April 05 2014 08:44 marvellosity wrote: we're going to lynch Amiko Fine. But getting enough votes in time could be hard. | ||
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On April 05 2014 09:05 marvellosity wrote: with sandroba on gumshoe and others afk, i think he's our best chance at a lynch and poisoner is a scummy kinda role anyway. even though role doesn't equal alignment, i'm reaching ;D As long as you finally make up your mind... | ||
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On April 05 2014 09:11 Holyflare wrote: Please switch paperscraps item with foolishness just so everyone's eyes can bleed Based town hero. | ||
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On April 05 2014 18:33 Holyflare wrote: Pretty odd that gumshoe got a majority in 20 mins that was higher than the majority on paperscraps that was there all day. Hm, maybe it was because it was right before deadline and we needed a lynch? I have trouble believing you are this stupid. On April 05 2014 19:59 Holyflare wrote: You can ignore dandel, marv and holyflare because conversation took place about gumshoe when all were present. ??? I agree that you can ignore dandel and marv because they are probably town but I don't understand your reasoning here and people should definitely not ignore you. | ||
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On April 06 2014 00:00 Holyflare wrote: Well that's lovely jat but i was around during the only convo on gumshoe and actively agreed with those reasons. Hence you shouldn't waste your time on me. Which was the point of my post. It's a town lynch and i was present for the reasons why my vote was there same with marv/dandel. I'm telling you to look into the people with 0 reasons. 0 posts about gumshoe, maybe even town reading gumshoe etc. It's not meant to be a leave me alone never look at me, that's the point of a vote analysis Sounds like bullshit to me. Stop the useless general advice and tell us who did what you said and why that makes them scum. | ||
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On April 06 2014 00:22 Koshi wrote: wow. My hero doesn't know which mafia I should shoot. Thought Foolishness was your hero. | ||
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On April 06 2014 02:32 Koshi wrote: It's life or dead. Literally. We lost the game if you are wrong. You are allowed to pass. But you would be seen as a wus. What? You should stop fishing for townreads btw. it looks really bad to do that at night. | ||
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On April 06 2014 02:45 sandroba wrote: Clearly it wasn't me. It was marv actually. Both of you are responsible. | ||
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On April 06 2014 03:47 Tehpoofter wrote: I don't think he is mafia anymore by the way hes playing this is what I expected from his town so I disagree that he is mafia. Yeah... I doubt he was talking about Robik here. | ||
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On April 06 2014 04:31 Koshi wrote: WoS should I shoot syllo? No. | ||
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On April 06 2014 15:34 LSB wrote: I'm just an innocent little townie. Why don't we focus on other people? Most importantly, JustAnotherTownie? A promised, I will provide more reads! And it is Soontm! Hopeless1der - Just click http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?user=Hopeless1der&view=all]His filter. Hopeless1der starts with spam and still haven't stopped. I am not entirely sure what he is doing but it doesn't even look like he is trying to play this game. I will add him to my ever growing list of "obv mafia". Djodref, sandroba, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der. Unfortunatly there just seems to be too many "obv mafia" for all of them to be mafia justanothertownie - Active without saying much. I always like to say one of the easiest ways (if you have the time) to play as a mafia member is to be very active and be the 'town discussion leader'. You get to ask a lot of questions, and make it seem like you are contirbuting without saying much yourself. To me, JAT's filter is a classic example of this. It consist of so many one line responses or questions to other players, although he has an 8 page filter, I can count the amount of times he wrote more than two lines with my fingers But JAT just plays this way! I want you to compare this to his town play in Foundation Mafia. Yes he is active, but notice that he actually has posts with more than two lines. It also contains direct accusations of scums and his own opinions. And your Third Party Reminder Amiko - Claimed Third Party Bulletproof Survivor. Amiko has a little too much setup related talk which makes me suspcious of him. However Amiko is new and I would be hypocritical if I said that playing setup focus is mafia. Unfortunatly I really don't want to waste a lynch on this, so if any of the vigs would like to policy kill amiko I would be greatful Wow, what a great case you made there. "Dude is playing like town discussion leader. Also he is posting one liners like he does in all his town games. Must be mafia." On April 06 2014 16:31 sandroba wrote: lsb you need to roleclaim to me. you are on the list of people about to get murdered. Very good. Very good indeed. Marv also said LSB needs to die. On April 06 2014 21:26 Koshi wrote: rayn ded marv ded Foolishness ded I don't like this game anymore. But I am still alive! Sandro, why is Holy confirmed town to you? Yes, making this a pm game IS protown but he had to do something protown. Everything else would be a scumclaim. I won't reach out for people btw. (I said I wouldn't ever join a pm game again for a reason). If someone wants to talk to me feel free to pm me/tell me how you want to communicate though. | ||
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On April 07 2014 00:28 syllogism wrote: We aren't lynching me ever and in fact are lynching at least one player outside that list. Why aren't we lynching you? I didn't want you to be shot but lynching is a different story. | ||
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On April 07 2014 00:50 Koshi wrote: I told you people I am superprotown awesome. now minions. Lynch.Revenge.Search. ↑wrong order. But do it how you like. Why do you let your minions do all the work this game? In your last games you had no problems doing the dirty work yourself. | ||
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On April 07 2014 00:53 syllogism wrote: There is no case for me being mafia other than the lack of effort. Fortunately I don't actually have to do anything now that this is a PM game and I can just discuss the game with Sandro. Besides that, for reasons that will be obvious soon. Then you better convince Sandro because if you don't you will probably die. | ||
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The thing is - I am starting to believe you are actually town. I can't understand this change in the quality of your play if that's the case. | ||
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On April 07 2014 01:40 syllogism wrote: Lets hear it then why he decided to target Kita and how that ability makes sense for a survivor who supposedly just wins by staying alive. Ok, I want to hear that too. | ||
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On April 07 2014 02:01 syllogism wrote: You don't make demands from me. I am just like every other player allowed to invest as much or as little time into the game as I want. He was tracked to a kill and his role is almost certainly nonsense. It makes no logical sense. Look at his supposed abilities. His win con is to survive until the end of the game and he can either steal items or just self-protect every cycle. Then he also has a one-shot that disables item use and swaps items between players. How does any of that, self-protecting aside, make sense for a survivor? Even if he could just self-protect, he could basically claim and afk until the end of the game since no one is going to waste two kp on a claimed survivor. Hmm, Greymist tends to give survivors some abilities to keep the game interesting for them afaik. Marv showed me his survivor role pm from a different greymist game and he had a whole bunch of abilities. The important part here is indeed that his target was a nightkill. | ||
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On April 07 2014 02:05 syllogism wrote: Do you mean parallel worlds? In that game Marv's win con was to use all the abilities, at which point he would be removed from the game. He actually claimed that role. Yeah, that's probably it. | ||
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On April 07 2014 02:12 Killing wrote: Does this not sound really similar to the sort of horsemen situation? They are masoned together and probably win if they make it to end game or some shit. The only thing that indicates so for me is that all the horses refuse to play this game somehow. | ||
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On April 07 2014 02:35 Koshi wrote: You misspelled Koshi. And nobody cares about Sandroba. He can easily be scum. Go for iamp and Hopeless. You were a shadow therefore I assume you read the shadow game. How the hell can Sandroba be mafia? | ||
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On April 07 2014 02:37 Koshi wrote: iamp and Amiko is also fine for me. Unless Amiko proves town. Then we lynch syllo. He is claimed 3rd party. He can't prove town... | ||
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On April 07 2014 02:39 Koshi wrote: tbh I only read marv his posts and I haven't paid any attention to what sandroba actually wrote this game. I suggest you do that then. Don't worry it isn't much. | ||
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On April 07 2014 02:40 syllogism wrote: It does somewhat weaken the idea that the abilities should be survival oriented, but why would Greymist design a role that can either choose to self-protect every cycle or do random things that aren't likely to further the win con in anyway. The role you linked had a passive ability that helped it to survive and in addition to that an active one. More importantly, why would choose to steal from Kita and do you really think this is just a coincidence? That is exactly the point here. Forget about the survivor ability speculation. | ||
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On April 07 2014 08:49 Koshi wrote: Yeah... I am certain I said I would do it but some1 told me to not do it. I forgot who and cant look atm. Maybe JAT. Yes, that was me. You just don't shoot people like syllo - you lynch them. | ||
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On April 08 2014 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote: man i was inordaintly happy for a moment there robik. This feels like fake. | ||
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On April 08 2014 01:40 Hopeless1der wrote: death just shepherds the dead people to hell. He has to occupy his time with other stuff in the meantime. I heard he likes cats. | ||
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On April 08 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote: 9. syllogism 10. iamperfection 12. Oatsmaster 15. austinmcc 16. Amiko 18. justanothertownie 20. LSB 22. Killing 24. VayneAuthority i present to you the very likely, almost 85% sure scum team! 1) Too many persons. 2) I am not scum. 3) Killing is a townread for me. Rest could be. | ||
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On April 08 2014 02:16 Holyflare wrote: then point out who is wrong on my town list instead No need to. I said I disagree with 2 people on your list. There are enough left. | ||
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On April 08 2014 02:18 Holyflare wrote: you said it's the wrong number of people? how are you sure on that? I said there were too many people. I don't know the number but 9 seems too much don't you agree? | ||
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On April 08 2014 02:25 Holyflare wrote: and you're saying there couldn't have been 5 kp? No, I am saying that's too much. | ||
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On April 08 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote: why would there even have to be 5kp :o what if someone got healed or rb'd Take a look at the OP. | ||
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On April 08 2014 02:27 Holyflare wrote: there could be 3kp with roles that kill once or twice or 4 kp or anything, why is that relevant? Jesus dude it's in the OP. Mafia has #/2 rounded up KP. 9 mafia -> 5 KP. | ||
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On April 08 2014 02:29 Holyflare wrote: but even so, if we believe amiko is 3p then that's still the correct number of ppl Now I am interested. How can YOU know it is the correct number of people if you don't know their roles? | ||
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Seems like you are ruling out mafia roles with KP and/or 3rd parties with KP. | ||
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On April 08 2014 02:37 Holyflare wrote: so you think there's less than 7 people vs 23 other people? I am saying that I don't know it and if you aren't mafia then you can't know it either. | ||
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On April 08 2014 02:42 Palmar wrote: Why does Holyflare think I am town, what magic is this? Are we looking at information beyond what is present here? Who knows why Holyflare thinks what he does... | ||
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On April 08 2014 02:45 Holyflare wrote: the simple fact is jat, 4 townies/random people died last night and nobody claimed the shot, that's likely meaning that's 4 kp for scum because those shots would be retarded for townies to make No shit sherlock. The simple fact is also that you don't know if those were the factional kills. | ||
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Maybe there are 7-8 scum. I don't know that and you don't either unless you are scum yourself. End of discussion. | ||
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On April 08 2014 03:05 Holyflare wrote: who really cares, i've given you a list, you are arguing about numbers not the people on the list, your point is irrelevant to the game I already gave my opinion on the people before that. Really HF? How are people sure this guy is town? Only because of his role? | ||
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On April 08 2014 03:13 Holyflare wrote: no, you are ON the list, because me and a select few do not know your alignment so clearly something must be wrong somewhere for us to not realise you are town, why can't the rest be wrong? why do you just blindly accept instead of trying to disprove the list or approve it if you think i'm scum then why do you agree with my entire list - you and oats or w/e? am i thus bussing EVERYONE????? i've given you a list, you increasingly think i am scummy, you do nothing to see or check whether what i'm saying is right i'm still comfortable with you on the list On April 08 2014 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote: I really think JAT is town, but I can get down with the vast majority of that list. On April 08 2014 02:06 IAmRobik wrote: JAT and oats prolly town. On April 06 2014 02:35 sandroba wrote: I have jat as town because of the guy number 2 comment. I win. On April 06 2014 02:34 marvellosity wrote: I basically think jat is too confrontational and bitchy to be mafia. And he made me giggle a couple times. On April 06 2014 02:36 Koshi wrote: wow everybody wants to be jats friend. I was first tbh. Clearly noone is able to townread me this game. I never said the rest of the list can't be wrong but they fit with the people that I don't have a townread on pretty well. You are misrepresenting so hard right now I think you are probably scum and yes you are absolutely able to bus your whole team although since you are going after me you are going after the town in the list. | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:28 Holyflare wrote: keirathi and gumshoe are green and it mentions them being town marv was blue and it mentions him only winning with town Cute. Try again. | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:30 Holyflare wrote: yes my pm says win with town and it doesn't say i'm town and i'm blue so i assumed it was 3p because there have been greens that said they were town and had a power too (i checked and gumshoes doesnt by he has a power and keirathis does and he also had power) lol, sure. | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:33 Holyflare wrote: scum shot 3 towny looking people and i assumed they were 3p yeh x_x Totally believable. Totally. | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:34 Holyflare wrote: look it's irrelevant you know what i am i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded Well, the last dimensional lemming was scum. Just sayin. | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:35 Holyflare wrote: there is also in my filter clear evidence that i knew that to be the case, where people say "his role is anti town so he must be mafia" - oats and i say "no i dont think so because powers aren't alignment indicative" is that what i do to spread an agenda? That is in no way "clear evidence". | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:47 Holyflare wrote: i've never seen dimensional lemming in a game before so the only knowledge i have is that it's a mafia role (if i was mafia) and also the fact that i checked the awards thread where lemming was voted best mafia role. So there is no knowledge that lemming COULD be town in this game so there is 0% chance that i would risk claiming lemming this game if i was mafia at the start of the game onwards, that's why it would be retarded (to me at least) I don't buy it. | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:50 Koshi wrote: why we care so much about HF. His list looks pretty good. He is not lynch material except if he stole this list from people who were going to bring this list public really soonish and HF just posted it fast for town cred. I am lynching many peoples on the list before HF tbh. So you believe his bullshit? | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:53 Holyflare wrote: yes that's fine to say when it's already happened but if i'm mafia why would i think they would agree that it's not alignment indicative if the only evidence is that it's only been a scum role!? I think you knew they would agree. People aren't stupid. | ||
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On April 08 2014 05:32 Killing wrote: If people have the same win cond as me, I want to work with them. If they don't, then I want to lynch them. I'm pretty good with that list except: 1. I'm not town on austin but I don't have the info that you claim to have. 2. I'm not town on snb, I don't really have a good read on him. I can't even recall a lot of what he has said, hasn't really stuck out. 3. Same with WoS but I'm leaning town on him. 4. I'm not town on HF but the going full crazy over blue green reads townie to me imo. If I was mafia, I wouldn't argue about color for 3 pages. 5. Paperscraps could be colored as green. I've probably spoken to him the most during the pm phase. Rest is coool HF is going crazy cause he has been caught. It's not voluntarily. | ||
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On April 08 2014 05:35 Killing wrote: As posted above, I think it's probably coming from a townie POV. As scum, it's probably a bad idea to argue over semantics and make yourself look bad. I think there's probably a reasoning over the difference in coloring the role but not one that is currently visible to the town nor the one that HF is proposing. It's townie to trying and figure it out though. If he was mafia, anyone that wins with town is his enemy anyways so he probably wouldn't care much. The only way it would be a good play as mafia is if he's trying to drum up paranoia or some shit but it doesn't make any sense. He didn't bring that up to talk about it. He was forced to because what he says doesn't add up. | ||
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On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote: austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum break down the scenario for me like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that? How I see this: HolyFlare didn't know how a town rolepm looked like. He was called out for that, paniced and came up with this ridiculous explanation of how he thought he was 3p and all the other people who flipped blue too because he felt caught. | ||
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On April 08 2014 06:32 austinmcc wrote: I'd kill Killing. Townies defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but this case is different because of x, y, z" or "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but I think these other things he's done are townie, and overall he's townie." Scum defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but scum don't like being scummy, so him doing a scummy thing makes him town." (BECAUSE HOLY CRAP THE MOMENT YOU MAKE THAT ARGUMENT ONCE, EVERYONE IN THE GAME EVER WHO DOES SCUMMY STUFF IS KINDA TOWN IN YOUR BOOK AND THAT MAKES NO SENSE) Here, Killing is of the mindset that perhaps that Catastrophe is good for town. This is true, we don't know what the Catastrophe is, and whether it's good or bad. Here, Hopeless is not town because he wants Catastrophe to happen. Implying that Catastrophe is bad for town only. Which is the opposite of the above. We have learned nothing about Catastrophe, are entirely unsure what it does. Killing argues that it MIGHT be beneficial to town, perhaps, but then that Hopeless is scum for wanting it to happen. Yeah, I retract my townread. | ||
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On April 08 2014 07:11 Koshi wrote: Who killed BH btw? It's not that it is the worst kill but I think there could be better targets. was it Oats? You need to read, dude. | ||
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On April 08 2014 08:30 iamperfection wrote: i think Syllogism might be mafia You don't say! | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:07 Holyflare wrote: yeh that's -1 jat then, standard list of awesome wins games I am not scum. You should concentrate on other people. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:11 Holyflare wrote: just tell us your win con because right now sandro is in a fortress of wtf defence and will never die I am waiting for confirmation but right now my wincon is that sandro dies. If he can't die then I can't win and may aswell help town. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote: HAHA palmar JAT no questions answered until you let us know about you. What do you want to know? | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:30 Palmar wrote: You should perhaps read my filter. It's insightful. Scumpile. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote: Full roleclaim. In fact at this point considering how much behind the scenes KP we have stocked up it may yet be prudent for massclaim? At least for the non-greens on the list. That I'm not sure of, what are peoples thoughts I basically already claimed my role to Sandro earlier. I win when all insane people are dead. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:34 WaveofShadow wrote: How do you know sandro is insane then and how do you know he's the only one? At the start of each night I get a list of all insane people and I also get to know how many of them are able to cause insanity. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:38 WaveofShadow wrote: And you're 3/4P with a solo wincon? Is there anyone linked to you in any way? No. I am solo 3p. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote: How are you a survivor if you don't win with us? The second we let our guard down you kill sandro/any others who go insane in future. What benefit is there to you to help us? Don't worry. There is noone left that is able to cause insanity. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote: It's funny you mention that. I'm pretty sure by sheer coincidence that's true but it may not have been if you hadn't acted. Well, I won't deny that. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:50 Holyflare wrote: I cannot un-bomb a person. Did you bomb me for real or does it not count if you don't bold? | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:51 WaveofShadow wrote: And as I said, it doesn't change the fact that we basically have to kill you for that reason, unless you can come up with some reason not to. Well, as long as Sandro is save there is no reason to kill me. And if he isn't save at some point mafia will probably shoot him anyways. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:55 IAmRobik wrote: Did syllo message you asking if you were 3p? No. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:58 WaveofShadow wrote: lol it doesn't really matter if you're trying to kill one of us, does it? Anti-town means you die It's only one of you and afaik he is also save. I can offer information and I will be a good little sheep. | ||
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On April 08 2014 11:05 WaveofShadow wrote: Yes but again the point remains, if you can only win by removing one of us, I don't see what's in it for you to cooperate with us. Whatever we'll figure it out. Well, I think that is obvious. Survival. | ||
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On April 08 2014 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote: Biggest problem I see is if scum get at least 3 kills tonight (which I would assume they do) and they all go off, the ratio on D3 is going to be something like 6:6:4 And that's assuming we have all the anti-town business accounted for and some lone wolf townie doesn't fuck us up somehow. (obviously numbers can be wrong here but I'm going with worst-case town scenario here) 3Ps if you don't want to flat-out lose to scum you're going to have to cooperate. lol, now you want my help. | ||
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On April 08 2014 11:13 Holyflare wrote: there is only red, blue, green and black you're a 3p killer (as noted) and in italics not normal red Ok, carry on then. | ||
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On April 08 2014 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm not assuming town has this in the bag. I would think that my ratio calculation proves this. Yes, but everyone else seems to be celebrating already. | ||
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On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote: have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end. One of the 2 horses? How can VE be town if Geript is mafia? | ||
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On April 08 2014 11:20 Holyflare wrote: cell mafia will make the game easy Do you have any idea how 3rd party players will be implemented there? I don't. | ||
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On April 08 2014 11:22 Holyflare wrote: yes they are counted as town regardless of win con, mafia are the ones split into each cell Splendid. Did you ask the host? I hope you don't just assume that. | ||
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On April 08 2014 11:30 WaveofShadow wrote: I told you. I want a complete roleclaim because I want to know what you're capable of, ESPECIALLY if we're going to risk leaving you alive. After that you get your answer. Huh? I thought I did a full roleclaim. I am the Ironically Sociopathic Psychiatrist. I win when there are no insane people alive at any point. I get the list yada yada. | ||
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On April 08 2014 12:05 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah, not following. Someone else explain if they get it, I'm too lazy to use my brains for anything but winning. I killed the only guy that was able to spread insanity. You can see it in his role pm. He was also the first on your item list (I think?). | ||
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On April 08 2014 22:26 Koshi wrote: Anyway, JAT claim pretty strange. JAT around HF pretty strange. JAT not wanting that I killed syllo pretty strange. I got some questions for JAT I guess. 1) When did you figure out what gem did. 2) Who gave it to you. 3) Why do you have such an easy wincon? Didn't read rest of the thread yet but I can answer that. 1) I didn't need to figure it out I knew it as soon as I knew I got it but that was right before I messaged you because hosts forgot to notifiy me earlier. 2) I don't know. If I knew I wouldn't have asked you, would I? 3) It wouldn't have been easy if I hadn't shot Keirathi N1. My claim is not strange. My behaviour around HF is not strange in the slightest and absolutely genuine. Read that shit - no way HF believed that he and like 10 other people were 3p. I did not want syllo to be shot because I had him as townread early and most important because people like him are horrible shots. You shoot lurky people who don't give you information when you wagon them. At that point syllo did not fit that bill (what if he had been town? yeah, you just shot one of the best townies in the game - grats). Also I changed my mind about him before the whole check thing - why would I do that as scum? | ||
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On April 08 2014 23:56 Holyflare wrote: So I'm mafia who still believed they were 3p? :D I am saying you are mafia or 3rd party who didn't believe so. But I couldn't care less by now - if sandro/town doesn't want to kill you that is their problem. | ||
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On April 08 2014 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh Keir. Hmm. Did you know his role ahead of time? 'Cause if not I'm not sure how you figured that. (Or did you only kill him cause you thought you'd get an item.) Also didn't answer my question about what the ruby does I did not know about his role but it wasn't hard to deduce because I knew Sandro, marv and him were the crazy people and that one of those 3 was capable of causing insanity. The other 2 claimed to have been invited in a mysterious qt, so... The ruby was 1 KP that I could fire at day so I did that and since Sandro was the only insane person left I really thought I should have won there but yeah... On April 08 2014 17:01 sandroba wrote: Alright so jat had previously claimed to me some type of insane people DT. He told me that there are roles that make people insane and he could check one among the list. The list day 1 was me/marv/kei and keirathi made us insane. I know for a fact that there is at least one more thing in this game that makes someone insane, an item which I had that I passed along to a townie, so jat definitely needs to die even if he is telling the thruth. Also if that's the case he likely killed keirathi or marv. The thing that doesn't really add up is why he waited for the very end of the day to try to kill me if he thought he would win instantly after that. Also it seems pretty easy to kill just a small list of people as sk, and pretty convinient when he now claims that the source of insanity is dead. He may very likely be scum trying to pull this off specially after he noticed how we dealt with claimed 3rd party amiko. I didn't get any notifications as of what happened to me and afaik I didn't have any protection at that exact time. The fact that it was a ruby and the fact some people are selling fire extinguishers combined to that leads me to believe he has probably set me on fire. WoS Please use fire extinguisher on me or give it to me if that's how it works. Also paper you don't have to do it since a roleblocker died and I believe I have it covered. @jat are you by any chance a dragon? re: geript We deal with him after we find out more about VE. @hopeless you didn't link me QT even though i used it via skype. I waited until the end of the day as safety measure because I did not know if I could kill you. Turns out that was the right thing to do. Pretty convenient to claim the source is dead? Dude, read Keirathis role pm. It is all in there. I am not lying. If I had not killed him it would not have been easy AT ALL. If you think I can be scum after how I used the ruby while 2 scum were being lynched you are insane irl. On April 08 2014 19:14 sandroba wrote: "JAT has a huge filter already I'll look at it more shortly but he had a 30+ page filter in LoL and I don't think he's a great player so I think he would really struggle posting that much as scum." "Amiko... claimed 3p. Lynch it with fire. Don't care... not town." Okay so amiko claimed survivor and was pursued by mafia. Jats however claimed SK, adimitted to killing someone n1 and apparently tried to kill me day 2. I need to explain to me how on earth what you are saying makes any sense. Sense, it does not make. On April 08 2014 19:44 Dandel Ion wrote: Also if there is an item in the game that can cause insanity like sandrobo said, and somebody has that, he would know that by his role claim so either he's lying about the role claim or he's lying about the people he has to kill. No, I would not know that. I get a list of PEOPLE that are insane/capable of spreading insanity. No items. On April 08 2014 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote: Yeah yeah geript and ve are scum we still lynch jat tomorrow Jesus dude, use your brain for a moment. If you waste a lynch on me you do mafia the biggest favour you could ever do while gaining NOTHING. If you guys lose because you lynched me I will laugh at you post game. | ||
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On April 09 2014 00:28 Koshi wrote: it's like supersneaky for HF to come back after low activity weekend and think all flips are 3p. It's ridiculous. I can see it actually be true that he thinks GreYmist games are filled with 3p that win with town or win with mafia or w.e. It's not even scummy. What I don't like about your reaction to his list is that you want to lynch him over something completely irrelevant as the 3p thing (what is scum motivation behind this?) and you completely ignore that his reads are the same as your reads. You admitted that his list was okish, instead of adding your own reads to it (you touched it a bit though) you just go after HF. Strange imo. Anyway, please kill mafia. You need this to go into lylo if I get your role right. So. I am pretty sure mafia is winning atm and we need to kill like 5 more. Town will misslynch at least once so we just need mafia to die. HELP THE TOWN CAUSE. Did I ever vote him? NO. I wanted to lynch HF at a later day because I had my vote on claimed scum at that moment and the other wagon looked promising too. The 3rd party thing is NOT irrelevant. He pulled that out as a defense for not knowing how a town rolepm looked like. It is a scummy overreaction and his story is not believable in the slightest. I can't help you if you want to lynch me dude. | ||
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On April 09 2014 00:49 Amiko wrote: I'll just say I don't really understand why scum would claim I am scum to get me killed since it makes something like a 1v1. Maybe syllo was planning to launch himself into space afterward? JAT do you have to be alive to win if all insane people are dead or can you win even if you are dead too? He probably planned to nuke an important townie at some point so if he got you lynched first that's a nice bonus. Or you are scum and he tried to give you massive cred. Or he thought you were SK and killed Keirathi so he tried to get rid of you/get towncred with that. Probably the most likely explanation. It's not specified that I need to be alive for my win con to work but it would greatly surprise me if that was not the case. | ||
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On April 09 2014 01:46 Killing wrote: Quite the opposite my friend but I am interested in your venture That you of all people don't get a joke is sad. | ||
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On April 09 2014 04:34 geript wrote: Like I don't care about any of your "sensitive info." Hell I probably wouldn't even believe you if you did. But there's literally zero reason not to allow me to analyze your "hard conclusions" or whatever. It's like you guys are pissed that I joined a game and actually want to analyze it and play. Like I really don't get that sentiment at all. I am normally not the person to agree with you but this is totally understandable. This game stopped being fun for me when pms were allowed. Who knows how/why people think they have cleared other people. There is no way for you or me to verify this or think it through for ourselves. You just have to blindly trust that people aren't retarded which is a hard and dangerous thing to do. I wouldn't have approached pms any different as town although in a game with this many roles it is evidently totally broken and townfavoured to be able to pm people. Apart from that a friendly reminder: Stop painting me as SK people. I am not. My goal is not to wreak havoc and kill as many people as possible/fuck town over yada yada. My goal is to survive longer than sandroba does and if that means I have to cooperate with town then I will do just that while hoping that scum finds a way to kill him (they won't shoot me as long as some retards seriously consider lynching me over them that's for sure). There is no reason for me to play anti town besides the sandroba thing. | ||
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On April 09 2014 05:17 geript wrote: I never believe that people aren't retarded. As a default, I assume that people are stupid. Then you have a problem here. | ||
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On April 09 2014 05:39 Koshi wrote: Somewhere I also trust geript tbh. But hmmmmmmmm. Where are the scummers? JAT got his orders though. Pro tip: If you are unsure who the scummers are - try to find them by reading filters etc. and don't only rely on role usage. Don't just be lazy and kill 3p or you deserve to lose. | ||
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On April 09 2014 06:06 geript wrote: Just to point out. I'm not going to bother filtering Marv right now to see his defense of LSB. Marv did not defend LSB. He wanted him killed. | ||
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On April 09 2014 06:26 Koshi wrote: Maybe he wants to become an esteemed minion? His wincon is to get to endgame obviously and his targets ded. If he is lynched tomorrow he can't get to endgame. I also promise to JAT that I will lynch him if he doesn't kill scummer tonight. Sorry. Wait wait wait. I have no more information (in fact less) than you do. If I shoot the target I am given then you don't lynch me regardless of what that person flips. Everything else is unfair. | ||
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On April 09 2014 06:29 IAmRobik wrote: JAT, I could be talked into lynching Sandroba to let you win too. That might be fun. Even though I'm town and think he's town. A great idea. You are my new hero. | ||
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On April 09 2014 06:30 Dandel Ion wrote: yes lynching the sk is such bad play, please tell me more about it i'm sure i can defs believe it if it comes from you ![]() I told you many times by now. But seems like you are unable/unwilling to use your brain on that matter. | ||
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On April 09 2014 06:33 Dandel Ion wrote: it doesn't matter for shit what you say because you're just gonna say shit to not die, so literally everything you say is useless and shouldn't even be read. Yes, I would say anything to survive. That doesn't mean it is wrong though. That's what your brain is for, you know, evaluating if it makes sense. | ||
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On April 09 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote: That was my bad. I was being bitter about heavyweight champ. I should have saved marv cause I had a town read on him, but like, what goes around comes around. Hopefully he's learned his lesson ![]() Based hero - marv needed to die. He was crazy. You did no wrong. | ||
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On April 09 2014 07:16 sandroba wrote: @jat just don't shoot anyone, I'm not 100% on either killing or geript. I'm going out to dinner. Pretty awesome shit awaits tomorrow. As you command. | ||
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On April 09 2014 07:13 Koshi wrote: Yeah but he is sworn to town now. I might send a minion to GreYmist to change his wincon to town if he is a good boy. Will need some serious Chaos then though. Who knows who knows? JAT don't DISAPPOINT!!!!!!! Can you really do that? DO IT. | ||
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On April 09 2014 07:20 Dandel Ion wrote: yeah and my brain evaluates that a player that is a SK and killed townies and tried to kill townies needs to be exterminated asap. And if you think that's stupid, well then you should probably commit suicide irl. Because things I did in the past matter how exactly? You should try to win if you are town not hold unreasonable grudges. So much hate... | ||
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You don't know if I will only ever shoot townies and lynching me doesn't bring the 1 (!) townie I shot to life again. If you keep arguing like this you should be careful with talking about normal intelligence levels. Just sayin. | ||
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On April 09 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote: Jat if you don't shoot lsb i will kill you Why don't you kill LSB YOURSELF then? | ||
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On April 09 2014 08:35 Oatsmaster wrote: wtf greymist. lol, I forgot this guy was even in the game... | ||
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On April 09 2014 08:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Sure, shoot super townie oats. Thats great JAT. I know, I know. | ||
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On April 09 2014 10:11 austinmcc wrote: I'm interested in results from box-guarding on N2, maybe we can shake something useful out of that? Someone seems to have fucked with that... | ||
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Am I one of those people? I didn't get any info back. If I am not than someone did something roleblockey to me. Probably means geript is scum or scum was at least afraid of me (-> Killing). As long as rbing me wasn't in your great town masterplan of course. | ||
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On April 09 2014 12:16 geript wrote: Oh and FYI, if you want to keep playing I wouldn't do anything if I were you tonight. On April 09 2014 18:20 geript wrote: If I had my choice, JAT would killer Palmer. 14 pages and nothing good of note. Kill that guy. I you want me to do anything at all you better explain this. Also I find it hard to believe that you protected anyone AND did whatever you did to me. | ||
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On April 10 2014 05:34 WaveofShadow wrote: lol in before you start pushing to policy lynch town masons See how far that gets you. Also VE I didn't get shit. You don't see the difference between what you are doing there and the mason role? Whatever, I don't care that much about this game anyways so do what you want. I think that's against the spirit of the game though. | ||
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On April 10 2014 07:19 Paperscraps wrote: Okay, so you were not at the device. No one has claimed openly to have role blocked you. I am not sure what mafia would gain by role blocking you either. Right now I think you are lying and tried to kill or maybe even succeeded in killing. You are not reading the thread, sir. | ||
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On April 10 2014 09:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Woah sick shit. Jat what do you have to say? Hm? | ||
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On April 10 2014 09:47 Oatsmaster wrote: But hes not the semi sk though. He lied. ahahaha | ||
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On April 10 2014 09:48 Dandel Ion wrote: jat lynch best lynch I tried to guard the device N2 I shot noone N3. I am not the best lynch (for town). I might be the best possible lynch for mafia. | ||
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On April 10 2014 10:02 austinmcc wrote: Does this mean you're claiming to have done absolutely nothing on N3? No role, no device, nada? You just ... sat? I claim exactly that. I didn't do it only because I am a nice person though - I didn't want to die. | ||
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On April 10 2014 10:07 austinmcc wrote: Hahahaha. This is worse, although not necessarily scummy. You've been found guilty of the terrible crime of "believing stuff geript says." I think we can let you off easy this time, so long as you never commit the same offense again. Well there was nothing useful to do for me anyways. | ||
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On April 10 2014 10:28 Dandel Ion wrote: lynching ve for that VE lynch is no JAT lynch. | ||
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On April 10 2014 11:37 Oatsmaster wrote: Dont know what you are asking. Dont care. we lynch jat today and va/geript/ve tmr Keep on doing what you are doing please. I don't even have to defend myself, lol. Although it is pretty sad that you guys are getting rolled this hard. I will never be able to achieve my wincon this way. | ||
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On April 10 2014 18:16 Palmar wrote: So how do we tell the bad from the scum. Three people are guilty of serious stupidity, who among them is mafia and who is town? Geript is adamant about being obnoxious. Between talking in code, calling me mafia for no particular reason, and in general refusing to co-operate with people he knows for a fact are town. VE checked me. Are you fucking serious? That's the dumbest goddamn check anyone could ever have made. Both my role and my alignment were readibly available in the thread. This is like the easiest check anyone could ever have made. Oats shot a confirmed townie for no good reason and didn't ask for my permission. Someone want to fill me in? You see all this and want to lynch me? I think you can add yourself to the list. | ||
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On April 10 2014 18:45 geript wrote: Well certain people have called him town all game long... Then certain people played bad and should feel bad. At least if they did so after day1. | ||
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On April 10 2014 19:06 Palmar wrote: The problem I have with lynching Oats is that I believe his claim. Don't get me wrong, I want him to die. He lied about his roleclaim to me. However the whole thing about him figuring out WoS was in orthanc and killing WoS because of that seems overly complicated for Oats to have thought of it on the spot to get an excuse to kill WoS. I don't think scumOats would believe for a second he could get away with it. There are more things at work here. If Oats is telling the truth, who do you think JAT is? I wonder who would roleblock someone by putting him in orthanc ![]() So my current suggestion is that we make Oats take poison. JAT has already claimed anti-town afaik (sorry if I'm wrong on this, not really reading the thread). So we need to kill JAT anyway. If JAT flips what I'm expecting him to flip, we should consider giving Oats antidote. It's important that JAT's flip matches Oats' description of his night actions. If not? We let Oats die. If Oats lies about taking the poison and somehow stays alive, we just lynch him the next day. Oats, I am expecting you to go along with this plan. I will be so mad if you put your own stupid agenda in front of town again. You're taking the goddamn poison and you will like it. It's a punishment for your blatant stupidity in shooting WoS. You really should start reading the thread now that pm land is over. WoS alreay said that what oats claims I have done is literally impossible. You can also ask geript - he knows that too. Are you calling them both liars? Do you honestly think I could kill someone N1 AND rb a different person? That I roleblocked people who weren't roleblocked? | ||
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On April 10 2014 20:01 Palmar wrote: I still think this makes JAT saruman ![]() What exactly makes me saruman? That oats repeatedly lied about what I did? Or that 3 people by now confirmed that I am telling the truth? If I am claiming anti-town (your choice of words - i would rather call it anti-sandroba) then what reason is there for me to lie about the name of my role? Exactly, there is no reason. On April 10 2014 20:45 Palmar wrote: I still don't understand why scumOats would claim the kill on WoS. He didn't have to do anything in the thread right? Before you have the next great idea regarding who should be lynched try and read the thread. Thanks. On April 10 2014 23:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Maybe jat has sick dodges. Why woukd I fakeclaim easily confirmable stuff for no reason?? Best defense ever. | ||
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On April 11 2014 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Fuck guys just think it through. Ok scumoats is under some pressure, starts out attacking JAT, WOAH SHIT CLAIMS A WHOLE LOTTA SHIT FOR NO FUCKING REASON. Makes sense? Nope. Now get off me and onto Jat. LOL, you are really doing your best to get lynched. I respect that - this game went south for everyone not town when the pms were allowed. | ||
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On April 11 2014 11:25 IAmRobik wrote: I'd lynch Amiko over JAT On April 11 2014 13:15 geript wrote: This is a very good point. JAT has shown that he's willing to work with town and has abilities that are useful to us. If the second leader does get lynched Amiko is a more preferential lynch that JAT IMO. <3 We can still win together - it is not impossible. Just sayin. There might even be a situation where it would be benefitial for town to let me win. I will elaborate on that should we get that far. And no it doesn't require me to do anything anti town before. On April 11 2014 19:51 Palmar wrote: He claimed scum. or 3p. I don't really care. He's not town, and I don't think Oats is unlynchable anyway. If Oats somehow is, we at least kill anti-town. Why the hell do you hate me that much? No, I definitely did not claim scum. My play makes NO SENSE AT ALL as scum. If oats is really unlynchable I will gladly shoot him if town wants me too. I won't do it if you put me in second place though. Why are you so lazy, Palmar? You aren't reading the thread. You don't care about finding scum and rather lynch me... Why? It is pretty certain you are town but your pm deeds shouldn't excuse you guys from playing the game. If you don't think that oats is the last scum I should definitely not be the second wagon. | ||
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On April 11 2014 20:20 geript wrote: He has a lot of odd flip flops on LSB, IamP and syllogism. Even if Oats is scum and 1 of JAT/Amiko is scum I still think there's at least a sixth. Idk, maybe all the 3P claims are com scum and there's 7 who knows. Talking about me here? I did not flip flop on LSB ever. I even pushed for his lynch. I flipped my opinion on the other 2 that is correct. I didn't want to lynch them day1 (like marv btw.) and changed my opinion afterwards. In Syllos case even before the redcheck came out. | ||
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On April 12 2014 02:39 Amiko wrote: You and kita both also claimed to be immune to nightkills. That's also why I figured you both must be 3p/scum - why claim you are immune if you could soak bullets instead? I mean, I guess the obvious answer (given kita's flip) is to avoid getting shot at night. On April 12 2014 03:40 Amiko wrote: My role feels pretty boring. I mean the random item swap might be interesting but sort of mean. Maybe I would end up with some powerful item? But like I said, even if I got some item, I am dis-incentivized to use it. I really don't know what syllo was trying to do. I feel like as scum he should have wanted to ally with me, not try to paint me as scum. If I get lynched I flip 3p without any kp, so it just makes him look bad. I guess maybe he could have used this argument to say he must not be scum because why would he lie, and someone else must have also visited whoever it was he claimed, but eh. It is possible someone has a win condition of killing me (since that kind of role seems popular in this game). I guess he could have been trying to keep the lynch off someone else that day? If you want I can try to visit you and steal an item to feel more confirmed :3c I'd be willing to give it back afterward. If I get roleblocked by scum, then whatever, it would uses up a roleblock to prevent nothing important. On April 12 2014 09:59 Amiko wrote: 30 secs moving to JAT Does this really look like survivor play to ANYONE? He tries to get information about the people who cannot be nightkilled, he has a pretty unbelievable role and he is the only one fast enough to start a switch onto me? Smells like he KNEW oats would not be lynched. If he was a survivor why would he care about securing a lynch on me that late in the day? On April 12 2014 03:02 strongandbig wrote: here's one thing, as long as jat is alive and trying to kill sandroba, we have to keep roleblocking him every night. i'd take a scum lynch first, but that in itself is a good enough reason to have jat be the backup lynch if oats is actually lynchproof. On April 12 2014 10:16 IAmRobik wrote: Someone shoot that scumbag I can do that if you don't rb me. No, I won't shoot Sandro because you guys made it pretty clear that he won't be killed and I believe you. On April 12 2014 14:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Oooo I got a gun. who should I shoot guys? ahahaha. Inb4 he "proves" his townieness by shooting a townie/3p tonight. lol On April 13 2014 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Dude no flips tonight and changed rad counter. I only have 2 1 shots. RIGHT GUYS? Yes, but how would we know that it wasn't one of your teammates who did the janitor thing? Ridiculous. | ||
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On April 13 2014 03:56 austinmcc wrote: geript, question. If scum has a "target player can't be lynched this cycle" mechanic on someone, why do they wait until now to use it? Could stick it on syllo or iamp earlier, possibly save a power of theirs and also keep a KP maybe, depending on numbers. Could stick it on Gumshoe D1, give no flip information, and PROBABLY have gumshoe be the lynch D2. Save it for a townie on a critical day coming up, no lynch, another set of NKs, and we PROBABLY lynch that dude the next day. Do you think, if you actually work through it, that a buddy/partner/forbidden lover/supplicant/trusted librarian of Oats's would use that power on Oats? ESPECIALLY if snb's bit is legit and he just has one-shot abilities. If scum used that on a townie oats... Why did oats say he could not be lynched? | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:06 austinmcc wrote: You hear the ABBA, but you clearly do not read with the blue eyes of the swedes. I'm not suggesting oats is townie or town. I'm trying to understand what geript is thinking when he posts these: Ok, my bad. | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:19 austinmcc wrote: DI, i got...nothing in particular to ask about that. I generally believe it, just because you weren't looking scummy and apparently have been doing some townie stuff. My only real question I guess is that you seem concerned with JAT throughout your filter, but not with Amiko much. I can understand "makes sense that there could be another survivor", but ... you didn't question his claim at all because of that? Or question just general play / claimed item abilities / comment about not being sure about committing himself to ABBA. My guess would be that another survivor is no problem for him. Someone with KP IS a problem for a survivor. | ||
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On April 13 2014 05:59 Palmar wrote: So boring that you can't lynch people. Like this game is pointless to play for about a week while we try to kill the claimed 3p people (amiko/oats/jat). I'll be afk and voting. If scum should somehow magically win this game then this is the reason why. | ||
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On April 13 2014 06:06 Palmar wrote: Fuck off, killing non-town is always the correct play and if it isn't the game is dumb and I don't care. Point proven. | ||
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On April 13 2014 08:16 strongandbig wrote: Don't forget GM has roles sometimes where people become interesting after some event (like Bruce Wayne, who became batman after his parents died) Anyways, this is the first vt claim, right? So I like it. He claimed he is "basically a VT" because his role is so anti town. That's at least how I understand it. | ||
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On April 13 2014 08:55 strongandbig wrote: Alright I'm staying locked on target. Wait wait wait. You are rbing me right? Not redirecting onto you? Because that would be bad. | ||
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On April 13 2014 16:51 geript wrote: I agree. We should be lynching JAT instead of you. We should be shooting you in the face. Ok, guys let me summarize what's going on here. Last dayphase oats comes in with this ridiculous accusation against me. It was probably intentionally unbelievable because he could not get lynched. Geript instantly defends me even before oats shoots WoS but he waits until it is absolutely sure that oats is getting lynched before he makes a completely rehashed case against him. He is absolutely sure that oats is the right lynch. -> Oats doesn't get lynched. Geript threatens me to shoot oats or get killed the day after. I shoot oats. -> Nothing happens. It is day again and now that oats is probably lynchable geript SUDDENLY DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT. Yeah, sure lynch me over the confirmed scum. I think geript has too much information and not wanting to lynch oats here is really scummy. There are either 3 or 4 scum left according to the KP and if there are 3 then he gains a dead townie by letting oats be shot instead of lynching him. Also funny: If town doesn't magically have a KP left oats can't be shot if you lynch me. Lynch oats today and geript after him. With fire. | ||
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On April 14 2014 03:24 strongandbig wrote: Come on guys we can't let the thread die like this. The game is not solved! Our confirmed townies are dropping like flies and we still don't know for sure who the scum are. So here's something to talk about. Postulate: if scum could, they would have used the prince of darkness power on day 2. Either to cancel the pms, or to cancel the double lynch. The fact that they didnt suggests two things to me. One: the chaos counter was not high enough. We have seen this game that strong town powers have changed the chaos (eg blazinghand), and it's reasonable to expect the same of strong scum powers. Two: the scum player with that power was not present on day 2 to use it. So I think it could have come either from djodref/geript or killing. Killing's power triggered something on lsb, and reduced the chaos counter; the day phase ended right after lsb died. On the other hand, djodref was not in the thread on the pm day, and the prince of darkness power was used immediately after geript joined the game. So we need to be talking about those players (plus VE, who put a green check on djodref) IMO and not just waiting for oatsmaster to die. I would talk to you but somehow I doubt that will help because there are so many lazy/stupid townies in this game who don't even read what I contribute and would rather lynch me then scum anyways. | ||
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On April 14 2014 21:37 Palmar wrote: Like I just think there's too much anti-town for town to possibly win this. Oats is claimed 3rd party and thus can't be town and has to be lynched. Jat is claimed 3rd party and thus can't be town and has to be lynched. Amiko is claimed 3rd party and thus can't be town and has to be lynched. VE checked me, then didn't send a check, and checked one of the people whose role he already knew initially. He has literally the worst check history I've ever seen from a cop. ever. So he needs to be lynched too. And then we can start finding mafia. I think we'll all be dead before that. You forgot claimed 3p dandel, sir. Also, if you think killing claimed 3rd party is more important and should be done before finding scum you are just wrong. | ||
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On April 14 2014 21:46 sandroba wrote: @palmar yeah Im starting to feel that way too. I dont know if we can afford to lynch jat or amiko. We definetely need to start shooting people at night too. @austin can you still shoot people? @jat If you kill me do you leave the game? Yes, I do. | ||
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On April 14 2014 23:02 Oatsmaster wrote: Yo sandro you wanna die? Yes, yes he wants. Clearly. | ||
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On April 15 2014 00:44 Palmar wrote: All third parties. Claim exactly your role, and your exact win condition. I don't care if you've done it before, I'm not looking it up. Role: Ironically Sociopathic Psychiatrist At the start of every night I get a list of all insane people in the game and the number of people capable of causing insanity. I have 1 KP each night. Win condition: I win when there are no insane people left at any point and am removed from the game if that is the case. The only insane person in this game is Sandroba. There is noone left that is able to cause insanity since Keirathi is dead. | ||
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On April 15 2014 03:05 austinmcc wrote: JAT, did you shoot last night? Yes. On April 15 2014 03:14 austinmcc wrote: Grrrrr. I want to try and figure out the mayoral lynch vs alignment check, but it depends on how many scum and how many 3Ps we have, neither of which we know. I don't see that it's crazy clear-cut for mayoral lynch, in some ways getting 100% of someone's role would be nice, it delays a lynch 1 day but it lets us not mislynch if we're wrong on someone. But we probably use it to check a 3P claim? And that's not a great use of a day, even if scum is down to 1 NK after today's lynch. Well, I wouldn't mind if you confirm me but tbh a lynch is probably better for town. There already is no way that I am scum unless you think there are at least 5 mafia left. | ||
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On April 15 2014 04:23 strongandbig wrote: the blazinghand unrevived thing is especially annoying because he should've been untargetable. don't forget lsb's mystery post-death anything power though. i still think prince of darkness is like 99% either geript or killing I don't think they had to target BH to undo his revival. | ||
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"it's been hard enough to get votes on oats" just lol | ||
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On April 15 2014 10:59 Killing wrote: THE DREAM IS REAL Hm? | ||
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On April 15 2014 12:07 Paperscraps wrote: Also tomorrow the lynch should be JAT I am thinking. The red and the green part don't go too well together. SANDRO, any orders? If I don't hear anything from you before I have to leave tonight I won't shoot. | ||
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On April 15 2014 20:43 Palmar wrote: Shoot amiko Jat. Fine. | ||
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There were 3 nightkills. I shot Amiko. This means one of 3 things happened. 1) Amiko used his vest or got protected if he is scum (I personally believe his claim because the post directed at me in the night felt very genuine) and scum pulled out 3 nightkills somehow. Unlikely. 2) A townie shot. Unlikely. 3) My shot got bussed to one of the 3 nightkills. Probably the most likely explanation. Important: - If I really intended to shoot town I would 100% shoot Paperscraps. No questions asked. It was clear that he was some sort of medic - why the hell would I shoot anyone else. This way he can just protect sandro. - The nightkills (if no townie shot) basically confirm that I am NOT SCUM. If scum had 3 KP that would mean there are at least 5 of them left. You don't really believe that, do you? - The nightkills also confirm that there are probably 3 scum left. If town wants to win this game you need to lynch scum today. This will reduce their KP which is way more important than getting rid of my KP because: 1) I am not shooting town. It seems like town is on the losing end atm and I have no interest in the game ending soon since Sandroba has to die before that happens. 2) Even if I was trying to shoot town I could aswell miss and hit mafia because I don't know who is who. Scum do. 3) Scum will probably have to shoot me at some point. Since finding one of 3 scum in the current situations seems pretty doable the mayor should ABSOLUTELY be lynching one of them. VE for example is almost a guaranteed hit. No way he lives this long with the role he claimed. | ||
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On April 16 2014 10:40 strongandbig wrote: i counterpropose we put sandroba as top and me as second On April 16 2014 10:45 strongandbig wrote: and then i kill ve This is very reasonable. On April 16 2014 11:02 sandroba wrote: Basically it comes down to this: sandroba snb paperscraps killing geript? vayne? amiko? ve jat Now here is the deal. jat pretty much has to be sk at this point, reason being I held the ring for a lot of nights and he never took a shot on me. Also he went ahead and shot into town tonight, I think it's a safe assumption. The reason for him acting now is probably town being constrained on lynches and not able to act. Also amiko may very well be mafia, not doing what he was suposed to do to prevent town from getting back the res item. VE pretty much has to be mafia, not producing a single useful check in 5 nights he has had to act and being a complete non presence in the entire game. I agree that we make me and snb both top positions. Now on priorities of who we should kill, definitely jat first since we need to reduce the kp urgently. There is so much wrong with this post... First of all I was roleblocked most of the nights (proven). Also I knew you had protective items it's not like you guys made a secret out of that. When WoS flipped I basically knew you have the ring. So,if I shot you I would not only not be able to kill you but also be lynched the next day. Look at how I claimed. Do you seriously think this makes sense as an SK? To out myself for literally no reason? And also do you really think scum Amiko makes a post like he did last night? I somehow doubt that. You also say "VE pretty much has to be mafia". FINE. If that is the case you lynch him and reduce KP this way. Like, this is not even a debate. What a shocking and utterly horrible post of you. | ||
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On April 16 2014 11:07 Paperscraps wrote: Palmar thinks VE is likely town. I tend to agree somewhat at this point. We have two 3p claims left on Amiko and JAT. JAT is the scummier of the two imo. You should probably explain this bolded nonsense at some point. On April 16 2014 14:44 geript wrote: Looking at Dandel's role I think the kill should be JAT today. I 100% will not pull she nannies no matter how much I may want to kill Sandroba or Killing. I really doubt there are 3 3P roles in this game. This is why I should be the second highest vote getter. Austin trusted S&B who I'm town but not super town on. I also like Paperscraps. I think myself, S&B and Daniel are the only 3 people anyone should be voting for. What makes you think that? Why can't there be 3 3P roles in a game like this? You just say that like it should be common knowledge. There is literally now way I am scum. If I was then town already lost this game because that means there are 5 mafia left. | ||
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Right now the situation is probably: 4 town, 3 scum, 2 3P You lynch me -> 4:3:1 Scum gets 2 nightkills -> 2:3:1 Amiko wins with scum - town lost, gg. Does anyone still think lynching me is a good idea? Well congrats - you are scum then. | ||
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On April 16 2014 23:27 geript wrote: 4:3:2 unlikely. 7 scum starting? You pretty clearly have killed someone last night. Probably random kp from either side still out. I'm guessing we may have something as simple as 6:1:1. Unless you have a better explanation of how many kills there were last night you should expect there to be 3 left. 6:1:1 is actually impossible since they had 2 KP before and it would mean that even if I had killed one of the 3 people 1 mafia would have killed 2 persons which I don't think is possible. How is it that hard to understand? If there are 3 left which is likely then you instantly lose if you lynch me so if you really plan on lynching me you are either retarded or scum. 7 scum starting doesn't seem impossible to me. People suggested 9 earlier, there were 8 in another Greymist game. | ||
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There were 3 kills. Even if you assume that I am responsible for one of them that leaves 2 for the mafia (like they had the nights before). The easiest explanation is therefore that there are still 3 scum left. Unless someone wants to claim one of the shots. | ||
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Because town would have claimed that by now don't you think? Also why would a townie shoot one of those people? | ||
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@VE: I didn't shoot you because town didn't tell me to. I did what I was told. | ||
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On April 17 2014 02:22 geript wrote: I have no clue what caused the no NKs. Nor am I going to bother trying to imagine scenarios which created it. Could be 2 saves. Could be reduced KP and a save. Could be anything. The point specifically is that it doesn't matter because it doesn't help actually find scum. Right now, everyone shoudl full roleclaim. There's few enough people in the game that it doesn't matter. Then what are you babbling about? If you have no idea then don't paint me guilty. I already fully roleclaimed so do what you want in that regard. | ||
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1) Calling me scum is basically admitting that you haven't read the thread or my filter once. 2) It seems like you are just doing everything to get me lynched/you change your reasoning for doing so all the time. You aren't reevaluating, you are frantically looking for different reasons to lynch me. 3) If I was scum that would mean there are 5 (!) scum left and town has already lost. | ||
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On April 17 2014 03:42 geript wrote: 1) No. I haven't read your filter. I don't need to. You have somehow failed to kill anyone that you've been asked/told to kill. N2 I roleblocked you... hmmm ok. N3 S&B roleblocked you... hmmm ok. N4 you supposedly kill oats who is immune still. N5 you did nothing? That's bullshit. Last night you killed someone; likely Dandel because he wanted to kill you. If you killed Palmer or Austin then you definitely didn't have permission to kill them. The thing is you've either been lying about being roleblocked or lying about who you've been killing. I find the latter far more likely. So because you're playing anti-town, then you're most likely scum. It's possible that you're not, but unlikely. 2) No, my reasoning expands as time goes on. You've been 100% worthless. I 100% think you're lying about not attacking last night. The deaths don't add up. I thought you were lying about Oats RB'ing you, apparently he was just immune; plus your role claim (3P survivor that requires to kill insane people) makes 0 sense. Like that's a super odd, hard to believe role especially when your KP has only targeted town aligned players. 3) WTF? Are you honestly trying to spout this shit? No, 1 KP was from you. I didn't RB you, afaik no one else has claimed an RB on you. There were 3 deaths when there have reasonably consistently been two for a while now. So no, there aren't 5 scum. At most, there are 3 scum. Quite frankly, we're at the point in the game where the people who we've slowly been putting of, need to be lynched. You're not town and you're not helping so we kill you. It's that simple. Ok, it is decided. This guy can't be town. Even geript can't be this misguided. It is possibly LYLO. YES, YOU DO HAVE TO READ THE FILTER OF THE PERSON YOU WANT TO LYNCH AS TOWN. I dare anyone to look at how I claimed and tell me with a straigth face that this makes any sense whatsoever as scum. I failed to kill who I was supposed to kill? Let's see about that: I got rbed 2 times. That you are even questioning this is ridiculous because it was you and S&B who rbed me. Are you calling S&B a liar? Also town did not tell me to shoot anyone those nights. I shot oats once but couldn't kill him (confirmed possible by his role pm). Why wasn't there another kill if that is not the truth? My story makes absolute sense here. I was told to shoot Amiko and failed. This time I have no explanation for it - I just don't know what happened there but the other nightkills make no sense for me. I never claimed to be a survivor. Geript doesn't even know what I claimed but he still "100% knows that I am lying". Yeah, sure. He even admits that "at most there are 3 scum". If I am 3P that means LYLO. If I am scum nothing makes any sense. For example that there were only 2 nightkills the night before the last one. This guy has an agenda and that is preventing a scumlynch. By going for a lynch on me he is defending his buddys by proxy. lol, he even calls Killing scummier than VE. He doesn't reevaluate things. He doesn't care that the nightkills point towards LYLO and isn't even interested in entertaining this thought because if he mislynches me here his scumteam wins. Geript is either displaying the most horrendous and blinded townplay imaginable or he is just simply scum. | ||
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On April 17 2014 04:42 sandroba wrote: To be honest I have you as townie geript, but I'm just afraid that you might be a hero mafia that is putting in a lot of effort. That's mainly because of the LSB shennanies and now you are somehow trying to sell me as mafia. If you can guarantee jat is roleblocked tonight then I'm okay killing VE instead. The whole deal about jat is the following: He is either telling the truth, in which case he didnt try to kill me on the couple nights he wasnt rbed and amiko is lying to us about his ability. In that case if jat manages to kill me tonight we possibly lose 2 townies plus jat leaves the game which means tomorrow is lylo is VE isnt the last scum. If he is lying and VE isnt the last scum, we can possibly lose 2 townies and town is put into kingmaker position tomorrow chosing between who wins amongst sk or mafia. What I'm saying is that if jat can't be rbed we need to kill him today. As for explaining my reads I wont bother as those are pretty self explanatory if you look at the events of the game. The only one I could possibly be wrong about is killing, but he's kept his story straight and I trust the meta read from paper. So bottom line is if you can rb jat we kill ve, otherwise we kill jat. I already told you why I can't be SK. And even if I was that would be all the more reason for town to let me live because a SK would need to shoot scum right now. | ||
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On April 17 2014 03:44 geript wrote: Plus JAT is confirmed bullshitting around. JAT is the obvkill here just like Oats was before. You are so full of shit. Confirmed bullshitting around? I see no prove for this statement anywhere. Oats was an obvkill because he basically claimed scum. You can't even compare that to what you are bringing up against me. I mean of course you can but it only shows that you aren't arguing reasonable and are scum. | ||
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On April 17 2014 06:31 geript wrote: [/s]Color Coding: Confirmed Town Confirmed Scum Confirmed non-Town + Show Spoiler [Vote Counts] + On April 03 2014 09:09 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 0 On April 04 2014 01:35 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 16.5 IAmRobik (0): LSB (1): VisceraEyes yamato77 (1): Holyflare austinmcc (1): kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion VisceraEyes (0): Balla24 (3): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar Not voting (23): IAmRobik, LSB, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 04 2014 05:56 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 21 IAmRobik (0): LSB (1): VisceraEyes yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB austinmcc (0): kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion VisceraEyes (0): Balla24 (2): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, marvellosity (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet Not voting (22): IAmRobik, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 04 2014 17:54 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 34 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness Holyflare (4): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77 LSB (0): Paperscraps (2): Blazinghand, yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB kitaman27 (1): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (2): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (1): kitaman27 Blazinghand (2): iamperfection, marvellosity (2): [s]Palmar, Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Tehpoofter, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 04 2014 23:27 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 39.5 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (2): Foolishness, kitaman27 Holyflare (3): sandroba, LSB (0): Paperscraps (7): Blazinghand, yamato77 (1): kitaman27 (1): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (1): Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 05 2014 06:02 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 46 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (2): Foolishness, Holyflare (2): LSB (0): Paperscraps (13): Blazinghand, Amiko (1): kitaman27 yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (0): gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (0): Not voting (9): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Killing, Djodref, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 05 2014 08:15 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 48.25 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness, Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (12): Blazinghand, Amiko (3): yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (0): gumshoe (6): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (0): Not voting (5): austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 05 2014 09:48 Acrofales wrote: Hour 49.75 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness, Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Amiko (1): yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe (16): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): Djodref On April 05 2014 10:03 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 50 Day 1 vote count: IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness, Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Amiko (1): yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe (17): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): Djodref Reduced Day 1 vote count: IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Tehpoofter, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, LSB, kitaman27, VayneAuthority Amiko (1): IAmRobik yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe gumshoe (17): sandroba, strongandbig, yamato77, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): Djodref Ok so this is updated now. Here's some points that weighs in your favor (sandroba) on VE being scum. 1. No one jumped on the VE wagon. Minor but fair considering how scum tend to be trying to pile on to push weak lynches. The problem with this is that Palmer was on and off the wagon pretty quick. Even still he got a free pass from flipped scum. 2. VE ends up on the "right" wagon at the end of the day. Three confirmed scum end up on paperscraps; one on Banks. It's unlikely that they'd end with 4 or more scum on paperscraps. 3. Oats soft pushes the VA lynch all day based on VE's points. VE never really makes a good case on VA being scum 4. Oats soft defends VE at points. 5. VE never really explains any read/reason for LSB. Points in my favor: 1. Oats jumps from BH to VA to Paper. If VE is scum, he's essentially jumping from a back to back scum vote to another back to back scum vote. That's pretty odd to me. So yah, I can see a reason for killing VE. The problem is that if he's town, then we will still need to lynch Killing and JAT. Killing is the only other person, imo, who could find out Wave's role (wizard). I still think he's town. I can't really explain it. Call it feels if you will. That said, if we're going to lynch him today, then I want a 100% promise that we just call it #YOLO lurker lynch and then proceed to assume he's town and scumhunt from there. Gives reasons for VE to be scum, calls it #YOLO lurker lynch. Gives zero reason for me to be scum. Wants to lynch me. Seems legit. | ||
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2) Because it is fucking bullshit. If you think you can solve the game by analysing the day1 voting over and over without even taking the reasoning for the votes into account you are a hopeless case. | ||
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On April 17 2014 08:00 Paperscraps wrote: JAT is being way too defensive for my tastes. It speaks more to him being mafia than 3p, since anytime anyone calls him out he has to respond and defend himself. Are you serious here? Why the hell would I not defend myself? I have no buddies I can count on. On April 17 2014 09:33 Amiko wrote: Btw geript it seemed like austin wanted to lynch VE from his thread talk, but you are saying he was more set on JAT - did he want to lynch JAT in the QT? I don't mind if you ignore this it was just something I noticed cause I actually read austin's posts :3 As an aside, I'm not actually sure whether I should help JAT since I don't know if he did end up shooting at me, whatever I can deal with that later. Also sandro is your position that you want me to use my 1-shot item scramble? I don't mind either way, but it would make things easier since it would let me make sure I'm keeping my word to JAT (though I don't know if he fulfilled his end). Geript just pulls bullshit out of his ass to get me lynched over his scumbuddies. He has been doing so all day. So, you used your vest I take it? On April 17 2014 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote: elect two people that will lynch VE and be done with this, nothing else to say This guy gets it. On April 17 2014 16:17 getmoript wrote: Aust was kinda hazy at points about his order in QT. He prefers GE, Killing and VA (mostly in that order). He thinks the JAT/Sandroba stuff will sort itself out. I just find everything he does anti town and think he's lying. Like he had to have killed someone last night. What's his purpose? Kill Palmer because Palmer wanted him dead? Dandel's the only other reasonable option if JAT is 3P. I just don't see a reason for him to shoot from a 3P survivor standpoint. That makes no sense whatsoever especially when he supposedly has to kill Sandroba. It's all just too convenient. The more you think about the claims the less any of it makes sense. This guy fails at reading. | ||
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On April 18 2014 10:21 strongandbig wrote: Ok he was unrecruitable traitor There could actually be two more mafia ![]() And who wanted to lynch not mafia? Yeah. | ||
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On April 18 2014 11:30 Amiko wrote: @strongandbig: I think there's probably only one scum alive because if there were two they could have won, I think? With just their votes they could have gotten second-place in the votes and secured a mislynch. Then, it is either 3scum, 4town, 1 third party (me). Even if they get no kills, with my vote they can always get 4 votes on a person. I guess it might also be 3scum, 3town, 2 third party (me + JAT), but then it's even more of a victory, they would lynch sandro. Either way, scum has a good shot to win in that situation by getting a night kill and then joint-winning with me/JAT. You don't take into account that the other mafia could not coordinate with VE. Besides that they would have outed themselves if they pulled this kind of stunt and if anything went wrong (for example with the nightkills) then they are fucked. On April 18 2014 11:39 Amiko wrote: It's probably from JAT actually The role PM says pretty clearly that the other horses are on a different team so they are town This is good since it confirms VA as town :3 1) I don't think the hosts would not censor information like this if it really confirmed VA and geript as town. 2) Again, take into account that VE technically wasn't on the scumteam. On April 18 2014 21:43 strongandbig wrote: Thought blast - ve's role seems really stupid unless one of the other horses is also mafia. What is the point of an unrecruitablr traitor rolecop? This makes sense! | ||
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1) Does anyone know Sandros role even in the slightest? 2) Does anyone have an explanation for why he did not die when I used the ruby on him day2? You can see what the ruby does in Dandels rolepm. If you don't want to give me information that's cool. A simple yes/no would be great too. | ||
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On April 19 2014 07:37 strongandbig wrote: one thing is, on the night with no kp all of the medic protects and protective items were coordinated through our qt except paperscraps and robick. so that makes me feel like there wasn't scum in the qt. But that night came with the prince of darkness power so I don't know if that is indicative of anything. | ||
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Makes sense how? | ||
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If geript did not roleblock me last night that would be a scumclaim, right? | ||
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On April 20 2014 08:08 Amiko wrote: I'll prob just vote however geript says to though ^^ Why? It's not like geript is the towniest or best player here. Are you afraid that he will rb you? | ||
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On April 20 2014 07:58 Amiko wrote: I think s&b is green because he lynched VE. I think vayneauthority and geript are green (because of VE's role PM) None of these are certain but I think it's a pretty good baseline. Between sandroba and JAT why not lynch sandroba? If JAT is honest he wins and leaves the game and you can lynch Killing. If JAT stays in the game he is lying and you can always lynch him tomorrow. But the most important is pls give me an item ;_; As long as people agree on the rolepm part this is actually the correct play here. | ||
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On April 20 2014 09:40 Killing wrote: There's no way I'm getting lynched. On the off chance that a mafia somehow infiltrated the pm circle of jerk then we're in some fucking trouble. Paperscraps and I instantly swapped roles once pms were enabled because we knew that each other were town. Here's why I'm town and we're not killing me: 1) I reduced chaos to 0 and delayed rb'ed a mafia ( LSB, this isn't confirmed but fuck you it's true) 2) My role is hilariously dumb to the point of I could not have made it up. If you think I'm mafia, then this is the worst mafia role ever made. I'm assuming this was some contrived support town role where someone tells me to find a wizard or a dragon and I find the shit out of them. 3) I knew paperscraps was OPOPOPOP medic since like day 2. If I was mafia, he woulda insta died cause that shit sounds ridiculous. Anyways,here's my thoughts on lynches: JAT: Probably the best bet for a 3p that is actually not good for town. He'd probably be my top lynch. Amiko: Could also be lying. He should die at some point. VA: I'm inclined to believe that he's town due to the nature and flavor of VE's role but god that guy is dumb. Maybe lynch him so I can stop reading his posts. Sandro: Has been pretty town. From what I understand, he was one of the leaders of the pm circles that seem to have brought the town lots of sucess so he'd be my last. 1) First of all you don't mention snb and geript. Those are your townreads then I guess? 2) If you knew about papers role that early then reducing chaos to 0 is NOT VERY PROTOWN, right? 3) Let me explain the situation to you. There are almost certainly 2 scum left. If you believe that Amiko and me are 3P this means you instantly lose if you lynch me. Now: 3 town, 2 scum, 2 3P lynch me: 3:2:1 nightkill: 2:2:1 Game over. So you better start looking for a person that can actually be scum as a lynch target. | ||
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That leaves VA, Killing and sandro. | ||
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Amiko, are you telling me VE did not know anything about the scumteam after pms were allowed day2 and there was a claimed scum (syllo)? SnB dude, it seems like your lynch is not going through. Let's switch to sandroba? | ||
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On April 21 2014 08:44 geript wrote: Actually, this is pretty reasonable. Let's just kill JAT then. It's quite possible he's the only one left. No, it's not you genius. You roleblocked me last night and there was a nightkill. Seriously... | ||
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On April 21 2014 09:18 VayneAuthority wrote: re-read that whiny post killing made today and reconsider. Its just a pile of nothing, he doesnt actually say anything worthwhile. Should really kill him. What is his lynch preference? Who does he think is scum? who knows. he wants to kill me because im "annoying" and thats the extent of it. He doesn't even want to kill you. He wants to kill all 3P first. It's ridiculous. | ||
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On April 21 2014 09:30 VayneAuthority wrote: so you gonna switch your vote or what? looks like we might have to both switch to sandroba so we dont get last second ninja killed. pretty lame. I don't really want to do that without snbs blessing but hey, better than no lynching I guess. | ||
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On April 21 2014 23:24 strongandbig wrote: You know what fuck that. Scum has to outnumber the town, and I'm not giving them one fucking inch. I'm not ready yet to yolo this game on sandroba being scum and jat telling the truth about his role. You know that geript basically claimed scum? He is the one who forced the no lynch yesterday even though he voted for sandro earlier. No way in hell this guy is town. Sadly sandro is probably is buddy. Or do you believe what geript said yesterday? That I am the last scum even though there was a nightkill last night when he roleblocked me? | ||
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On April 22 2014 00:48 Amiko wrote: @geript Wouldn't it be safer & better for me to steal from sandroba? I don't understand why you didn't just give me a random item during the day anyway :s At the same time I don't really mistrust geript because after all, if he wanted to mess with me or keep my items he could have done so earlier. Scum geript has every reason to be on good terms with you. | ||
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On April 22 2014 01:26 geript wrote: OK. I think it's safe to assume that VE has probably been carrying out the KP for a while since despite being under suspicion. Except for the night that Ausin or S&B or whoever it was made him lovers. I heavily heavily doubt that VE could carry out KP as an unrecruitable traitor. | ||
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On April 22 2014 01:28 geript wrote: ah ok. W/E Here's what's going to happen. I'll try to announce my action right before the deadline. It's going to be on one of JAT/SAndro/Killing unless have I have any other real breakthroughs in thinking between now and then. If you are town you are not rbing me. | ||
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On April 16 2014 02:59 Amiko wrote: However, if I'm alive I'll promise to use my one-shot disable power on a night of your choice. I would like you to use this tonight. I guess you probably won't but even in this case please steal from sandroba. Afaik he is the only person you know has items besides maybe geript. | ||
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Either you have to steal from geript to lose all your shit. Conclusion: don't do it. Or geript has to target you for you to lose all your shit. Conclusion: you don't need to steal from him since he won't waste a night action on you as either alignment. How many items do you have? | ||
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On April 22 2014 05:18 Amiko wrote: Also JAT I forget is your goal to kill sandroba? Or just to get the ring? I just want sandro to die. That's all. | ||
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Ok, then I don't know. But he has the ring. | ||
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Amiko, of course I did not shoot you! | ||
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On April 22 2014 10:25 GreYMisT wrote: You are lucky SnB didnt need to have the ring activated on him. If it did then you would not have won, as he would have become insane. I know. I was really afraid when he hinted that sandroba didn't have it anymore. | ||
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On April 22 2014 13:33 syllogism wrote: I wish we had shot JAT for not contacting us on day 2, he seemed a bit confused about his win con. The only third party who even remotely played like one was Amiko, although a bit disappointed by him/her attempting to help town in the end. Yeah, wouldn't that have been a great idea?! Hey dude, I am 3P and my wincon is to shoot your scumbuddy so let's cooperate! Also I thought I would have won by the end of day2 so why bother. Not my fault that apart from sandroba scummers were scumming hardcore. On April 22 2014 16:16 Koshi wrote: YES TOWN I ALWAYS KNEW YOU COULD DO IT!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!! Must have been someone else who was CONVINCED the game was lost in the obs qt. ^_^ | ||
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On April 22 2014 16:32 syllogism wrote: You almost certainly thought Sandro was town on day 2 and cooperating with mafia to kill him was the natural thing to do. No. Why would I do that when I can just dayvig him and win? | ||
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On April 22 2014 16:32 Koshi wrote: JAT could have been such a townhero by killing Sandrabo. Imagine that. Dumb ruby. Exactly. Imagine 3 dead scummers on day2 + your nightkill. | ||
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On April 22 2014 16:37 Koshi wrote: btw. Scum roles were omgbbq strong. Insane. Yeah, oats role for example was sick. | ||
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On April 22 2014 16:43 Koshi wrote: Oh. And because town won in the end I am so happy this town circlejerk was total shit. If you want to brag about a town circle at least make it a TOWN circle. Not a couple townies sucking a mafia penis. Yeah, lol. | ||
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On April 22 2014 11:07 justanothertownie wrote: Wtf happened with the ruby? Still confused! | ||
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No. Absolutely not. I am with syllo here. | ||
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On April 22 2014 21:47 strongandbig wrote: If scum had roleblocked holy flare the game would've been completely different IMO. On the one hand, sandroba wouldn't have been "confirmed town," on the other hand not nearly so many roles would've been confirmed. Also that jat palmar shot probably saved town lol. He really had a hardon for killing third parties. Yeah, pms made this a different game... And Palmar... tbh as long as town has a mislynch or 2 to spare his approach is entirely correct generally. He should have taken the play of the 3Ps into consideration (that's what he failed to do) but in general it probably isn't wrong to go after me here if you think Sandro is town. | ||
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On April 22 2014 21:52 WaveofShadow wrote: Wow you really are super butthurt. To be fair I don't think very many people did much of anything. Including you. The game was heavily themed and as such there was a whole lot less analysis than usual and much more exploitation of roles. I heard there were people that had to defend themselves every single day. Sometimes against accusations you can't defend against sometimes against total idiocy. Surviving was a chore... | ||
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On April 22 2014 21:59 WaveofShadow wrote: You were SK and you're complaining about this? No, but I certainly had to do things. ^^ | ||
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On April 22 2014 23:59 syllogism wrote: Allowing JAT to RB+shoot Sandro was a pretty terrible idea considering it would have led to town loss had Sandro been town and if mafia had more than 1 kp (which they did) or more than 1 member left. The salt is flowing. | ||
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On April 23 2014 14:27 Foolishness wrote: Correct: Correct: Correct: Wrong: Two Correct: Two mafia and a 3rd party, 2 correct town reads (Keirathi and Koshi). Couple wrong. One wrong, one correct: Correct: Now...let's check out that other guy... Two Wrong: Correct: One Wrong, One Correct: Correct: Wrong: One wrong, one half-correct: Wrong: Wrong: Correct: Wrong: Correct (or wrong depending on your viewpoint): Wrong: Wrong: Three Wrong, One Correct: Correct: Wrong: In summary: Wrong: That's all fine but at least he didn't save a mafia from KP. ^^ | ||
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