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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 26 2014 17:43 GMT
#25
/in
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 27 2014 16:02 GMT
#54
On March 28 2014 00:32 Palmar wrote:
oh and:

Wotc: hydras

Much rather deal with Foolishness posting relatively little than the hydra thing. I think hydras make games worse.

I absolutely agree.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 27 2014 21:20 GMT
#61
Greatest list of players I have ever seen.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 01 2014 15:09 GMT
#293
On April 02 2014 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Europe wont be leading the lynch. wow. scary stuff.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 00:33 GMT
#373
On April 03 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik your read on Wave is wrong.

Troll or serious?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 00:35 GMT
#380
On April 03 2014 09:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik your read on Wave is wrong.

Troll or serious?

srsbznz. i don't joke on reads, ever.

Seems legit.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 00:49 GMT
#394
On April 03 2014 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 09:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ACtually i don't even care. I won't get lynched in a game where marv is too or if i do you can straight up lynch him next.

+ Show Spoiler [Mini-rant and off-topic sorry +

I really hope this doesn't turn into every mini played in the last few months. I mean I know it likely won't 'cause GreYMisT game, but the Rayn/marv dynamics have made things quite stale.

So what do you propose? That they shouldn't be allowed to play in the same game?

Why is rayns read on robik shitty yamato?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 00:55 GMT
#405
On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote:
Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too.

Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends.

I disagree. So the actual reads are not the problem here?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 00:56 GMT
#410
On April 03 2014 09:55 IAmRobik wrote:
oh...dandelion still fucking sucks at this game. There's a fucking shocker.

Not again please. You both sucked for fighting like that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 01:02 GMT
#422
On April 03 2014 10:01 IAmRobik wrote:
I mean...he's prolly town again, but that doesn't mean that he's playing well or that he's right. He was pretty obvious town at some point in foundations too...that didn't mean that all he wanted to do all game was lynch townies

Then maybe you should stop antagonizing him, hm?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 01:17 GMT
#457
On April 03 2014 10:03 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 10:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:01 IAmRobik wrote:
I mean...he's prolly town again, but that doesn't mean that he's playing well or that he's right. He was pretty obvious town at some point in foundations too...that didn't mean that all he wanted to do all game was lynch townies

Then maybe you should stop antagonizing him, hm?

He started the game by quoting every one of my posts and saying that I'm scum for them. He's clearly just bitter about the fact that I called him out for being a d-bag last game and he's continuing the fucking feud cause he has nothing better to do with his life.

Or maybe it just pleases him to make you rage. Ever thought of that? Just ignore the guy...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 01:18 GMT
#459
On April 03 2014 10:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 03 2014 10:12 iamperfection wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If yamato is actually serious with his vote i consider him as likely mafia.

I don't understand

I have reasoning for my reads and yamato is not interested in finding out why i say stuff i do.

Oh, if that's the case I would like to hear your WoS reasoning.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 01:30 GMT
#476
On April 03 2014 10:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 03 2014 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
There's lots more room on the list! Anyone else want something?

Also Koshi wants something.. I think candies...
yes candies..

The candies are bad! You're evil.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 02:31 GMT
#527
On April 03 2014 11:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik your read on Wave is wrong.

Troll or serious?

Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 09:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik your read on Wave is wrong.

Troll or serious?

srsbznz. i don't joke on reads, ever.

Seems legit.

Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 10:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:12 iamperfection wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If yamato is actually serious with his vote i consider him as likely mafia.

I don't understand

I have reasoning for my reads and yamato is not interested in finding out why i say stuff i do.

Oh, if that's the case I would like to hear your WoS reasoning.

This whole conversation is weird because why i read Wave as town should be more clear than why i read Robik as town and i don't know why JAT is interested in my Wave read and not on my Robik read.

No, it is not clear to me. At least it wasn't when I asked the question. The Robik read I could understand much better.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 02:36 GMT
#533
On April 03 2014 11:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 11:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik your read on Wave is wrong.

Troll or serious?

On April 03 2014 09:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik your read on Wave is wrong.

Troll or serious?

srsbznz. i don't joke on reads, ever.

Seems legit.

On April 03 2014 10:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:12 iamperfection wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If yamato is actually serious with his vote i consider him as likely mafia.

I don't understand

I have reasoning for my reads and yamato is not interested in finding out why i say stuff i do.

Oh, if that's the case I would like to hear your WoS reasoning.

This whole conversation is weird because why i read Wave as town should be more clear than why i read Robik as town and i don't know why JAT is interested in my Wave read and not on my Robik read.

No, it is not clear to me. At least it wasn't when I asked the question. The Robik read I could understand much better.

Why do i have a townread on him?

Because he opened very similar as town before (giving strong reads for very small things). Also he seemed kinda genuine with his happiness.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 02:37 GMT
#535
At least that's what I thought. There is this smiley thing you 2 have going on for example.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 02:51 GMT
#544
On April 03 2014 11:49 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote:
Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too.

Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends.

I disagree. So the actual reads are not the problem here?


Can you explain what this means?

I don't think there is no reason to post early gut reads. It is much more useful than proposing a random lynch for example.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:04 GMT
#560
On April 03 2014 11:58 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 11:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:49 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote:
Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too.

Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends.

I disagree. So the actual reads are not the problem here?


Can you explain what this means?

I don't think there is no reason to post early gut reads. It is much more useful than proposing a random lynch for example.


So you think gut reads are better than just saying nothing and random lynching yet you've said nothing? I think everything you've said so far has been incredibly fluffly. You had the smiley read that was incredibly random and then your explanation for why you asked the reasoning for WoS vs Robik was bad as well. You stated that you asked for the reason on the WoS read because robik opened the exact same way.

Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik your read on Wave is wrong.

Troll or serious?


Then why do you prod him about it if you get where he's coming from. After that you go into traffic cop mode trying to settle the dispute between DI and Rob. You're my top scumread so far so I'd love to actually hear some content rather than all of this fluff.

Seriously dude? You are contradicting yourself in the first part of your post... if I give a random read then that is more than most people here did. Maybe you should explain why my reasoning is bad instead of just throwing shit. I don't even know what you are talking about here. I never said WoS and Robik opened the same way?!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:07 GMT
#569
On April 03 2014 12:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think its completely useless to talk about the button now. Stop.

I agree. As long as nobody has any information about what it does talking about it seems stupid.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:19 GMT
#586
On April 03 2014 12:14 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 12:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:58 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:49 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote:
Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too.

Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends.

I disagree. So the actual reads are not the problem here?


Can you explain what this means?

I don't think there is no reason to post early gut reads. It is much more useful than proposing a random lynch for example.


So you think gut reads are better than just saying nothing and random lynching yet you've said nothing? I think everything you've said so far has been incredibly fluffly. You had the smiley read that was incredibly random and then your explanation for why you asked the reasoning for WoS vs Robik was bad as well. You stated that you asked for the reason on the WoS read because robik opened the exact same way.

On April 03 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik your read on Wave is wrong.

Troll or serious?


Then why do you prod him about it if you get where he's coming from. After that you go into traffic cop mode trying to settle the dispute between DI and Rob. You're my top scumread so far so I'd love to actually hear some content rather than all of this fluff.

Seriously dude? You are contradicting yourself in the first part of your post... if I give a random read then that is more than most people here did. Maybe you should explain why my reasoning is bad instead of just throwing shit. I don't even know what you are talking about here. I never said WoS and Robik opened the same way?!


You wanted to know the reasoning of the WoS read but never asked for the robik one. I never said that you read them the same way. It seemed that you were curious about the WoS read but then you didn't really care about why he read Rob town. Your only read has been that you liked the smiley thing so I wouldn't agree than "that is more than most people here did".

I did ask because I did not follow the WoS read while I thought I understood the robik read. Like I already said. Maybe you should read what I say. I also never said that I like the smiley read I just know that it is a thing for them.
Why is it scummy for me to only question one of rayns reads? Explain.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:22 GMT
#589
On April 03 2014 12:21 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 12:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:14 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:58 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:49 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote:
Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too.

Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends.

I disagree. So the actual reads are not the problem here?


Can you explain what this means?

I don't think there is no reason to post early gut reads. It is much more useful than proposing a random lynch for example.


So you think gut reads are better than just saying nothing and random lynching yet you've said nothing? I think everything you've said so far has been incredibly fluffly. You had the smiley read that was incredibly random and then your explanation for why you asked the reasoning for WoS vs Robik was bad as well. You stated that you asked for the reason on the WoS read because robik opened the exact same way.

On April 03 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik your read on Wave is wrong.

Troll or serious?


Then why do you prod him about it if you get where he's coming from. After that you go into traffic cop mode trying to settle the dispute between DI and Rob. You're my top scumread so far so I'd love to actually hear some content rather than all of this fluff.

Seriously dude? You are contradicting yourself in the first part of your post... if I give a random read then that is more than most people here did. Maybe you should explain why my reasoning is bad instead of just throwing shit. I don't even know what you are talking about here. I never said WoS and Robik opened the same way?!


You wanted to know the reasoning of the WoS read but never asked for the robik one. I never said that you read them the same way. It seemed that you were curious about the WoS read but then you didn't really care about why he read Rob town. Your only read has been that you liked the smiley thing so I wouldn't agree than "that is more than most people here did".

I did ask because I did not follow the WoS read while I thought I understood the robik read. Like I already said. Maybe you should read what I say. I also never said that I like the smiley read I just know that it is a thing for them.
Why is it scummy for me to only question one of rayns reads? Explain.


You care about the reasoning of one but not the other is weird.

I won't explain it a third time.
So now it is weird? I swear a few minutes ago it was scummy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:25 GMT
#591
On April 03 2014 12:23 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 12:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm going to say I want to push the button. CATASTROPHE or CATASTROPHE??

Excellent point VE, it is important to establish lexiconically that CATASTROPHE is the official correct way to describe the result of pressing the button. Catashrophe is acceptable as a short hand, as well as "The town initiative for a better tomorrow"

For example:

We must push the town button so we can cause CATASTROPHE for the betterment of the town.

Anything not button related to say?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:28 GMT
#596
On April 03 2014 12:27 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 12:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:21 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:14 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:58 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:49 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
[quote]
I disagree. So the actual reads are not the problem here?


Can you explain what this means?

I don't think there is no reason to post early gut reads. It is much more useful than proposing a random lynch for example.


So you think gut reads are better than just saying nothing and random lynching yet you've said nothing? I think everything you've said so far has been incredibly fluffly. You had the smiley read that was incredibly random and then your explanation for why you asked the reasoning for WoS vs Robik was bad as well. You stated that you asked for the reason on the WoS read because robik opened the exact same way.

On April 03 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik your read on Wave is wrong.

Troll or serious?


Then why do you prod him about it if you get where he's coming from. After that you go into traffic cop mode trying to settle the dispute between DI and Rob. You're my top scumread so far so I'd love to actually hear some content rather than all of this fluff.

Seriously dude? You are contradicting yourself in the first part of your post... if I give a random read then that is more than most people here did. Maybe you should explain why my reasoning is bad instead of just throwing shit. I don't even know what you are talking about here. I never said WoS and Robik opened the same way?!


You wanted to know the reasoning of the WoS read but never asked for the robik one. I never said that you read them the same way. It seemed that you were curious about the WoS read but then you didn't really care about why he read Rob town. Your only read has been that you liked the smiley thing so I wouldn't agree than "that is more than most people here did".

I did ask because I did not follow the WoS read while I thought I understood the robik read. Like I already said. Maybe you should read what I say. I also never said that I like the smiley read I just know that it is a thing for them.
Why is it scummy for me to only question one of rayns reads? Explain.


You care about the reasoning of one but not the other is weird.

I won't explain it a third time.
So now it is weird? I swear a few minutes ago it was scummy.


There's a few possible scenarios if you're scum. You could be waiting for someone to give a read that might end up being wrong in the end if they flip scum, you might want to pidgeon hole them into a read that you hope will make them look scummy. You're still my top scum read because of the amount of fluff and the feigning participation you've done.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:30 GMT
#599
Sorry didn't mean to hit post there...
Maybe it's because it is really late and I am tired but I don't understand what you are saying at all. You think I ask for only one read to bait someone else into giving a wrong read on what exactly? Seems pretty stupid to me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:34 GMT
#605
On April 03 2014 12:31 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 12:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Sorry didn't mean to hit post there...
Maybe it's because it is really late and I am tired but I don't understand what you are saying at all. You think I ask for only one read to bait someone else into giving a wrong read on what exactly? Seems pretty stupid to me.


I don't think it's stupid at all. I do that shit all the time. If you're town, you should move on and play townie because that's the only thing that will change my mind tbh.

If you think that I am responding to this because I want to convince you about my alignment then you are mistaken friend. I want to know how you try to justify this bullshit to read YOU.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:37 GMT
#607
Like, please explain to me exactly how this scenario you invented works because I honestly don't understand what you are saying joey.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:43 GMT
#617
On April 03 2014 12:38 Killing wrote:
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On April 03 2014 12:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, please explain to me exactly how this scenario you invented works because I honestly don't understand what you are saying joey.


Dude, you called my reasoning stupid and I really could give a shit if you think it's stupid. I'm not interested in arguing over it at this point.

Neither am I but as long as you can't explain it to me I think you are just trying to throw shit on me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:50 GMT
#627
On April 03 2014 12:47 Keirathi wrote:
It seems like Killing's basic argument boils down to something like this:

*Teacher puts 2 math problems on the board*

Guy 1: "Can you explain that first one again? I don't get it."

Teacher: "Okay, here you go!"

Guy 1: "Thanks, I got it now."

...................

Guy 2: "Wait, why didn't you ask for the explanation to both the problems? WHAT IS GOING ON WHY ARE YOU FAKING IT?"

Guy 1: "Because I only didn't understand the first one."

Guy 2: "DIE SCUM LIAR".

Ok, but Guy 2 is a tool then.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:52 GMT
#631
On April 03 2014 12:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 12:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:47 Keirathi wrote:
It seems like Killing's basic argument boils down to something like this:

*Teacher puts 2 math problems on the board*

Guy 1: "Can you explain that first one again? I don't get it."

Teacher: "Okay, here you go!"

Guy 1: "Thanks, I got it now."

...................

Guy 2: "Wait, why didn't you ask for the explanation to both the problems? WHAT IS GOING ON WHY ARE YOU FAKING IT?"

Guy 1: "Because I only didn't understand the first one."

Guy 2: "DIE SCUM LIAR".

Ok, but Guy 2 is a tool then.

He's not a tool he's just spirited! Don't be rude.

The problem is if Guy 2 is not a tool then he should be able to explain why Guy 1 is a scum liar for what he did instead of yelling.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 03:55 GMT
#637
On April 03 2014 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But how does the situation differ if the teacher put the problem on a table instead?

Now you are being silly.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 12:27 GMT
#785
On April 03 2014 20:31 Koshi wrote:
I am currently on page 16 and there is a giant cat holding a taxi. I will be looking at that picture for the next 5 hours. Then I will be able to read the thread.

Don't ever change.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 12:33 GMT
#786
On April 03 2014 20:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote:
Holy, we're the bosses of this town.


Let's win then!

Tell me what the most fun tl game mechanic was!

How does that help win the game?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 03 2014 12:38 GMT
#791
On April 03 2014 21:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 21:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 20:25 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote:
Holy, we're the bosses of this town.


Let's win then!

Tell me what the most fun tl game mechanic was!

How does that help win the game?


What is the most fun tl mafia game mechanic jat?

What's the deal?
I probably missed the really fun mechanics because I never played in the heavily themed games besides hogwarts.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 12:45 GMT
#800
On April 03 2014 21:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno. I don't think Robert is mafia. marv will be clearer read laterz.
But austin.. man dat red star!

Ok, that's the third time you mention it. Could you show the post you are talking about and explain?
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 12:50 GMT
#802
On April 03 2014 21:45 Palmar wrote:
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On April 03 2014 21:44 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 21:40 Palmar wrote:
rayn marv and robik basically confirmed mafia. let's kill them.

you forgot your VE read

Palmar doesn't forget, palmar intentionally leaves out.

What does Palmar think about rayn then? He defended scumbrik and scumarv, you know.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 13:01 GMT
#823
On April 03 2014 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 03 2014 21:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 21:45 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 21:44 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 21:40 Palmar wrote:
rayn marv and robik basically confirmed mafia. let's kill them.

you forgot your VE read

Palmar doesn't forget, palmar intentionally leaves out.

What does Palmar think about rayn then? He defended scumbrik and scumarv, you know.

Could you point out where did i defend marv?

You postponed your read on him. I was mainly joking - didn't expect Palmar to give useful answer tbh,
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 13:04 GMT
#827
On April 03 2014 22:02 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 03 2014 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 14:23 austinmcc wrote:
Hello, friends! I believe you'll find that I am currently Quetzacoatl, Bird God of Lightning and Other Things I Decide to be God Over. You can find my credentials elsewhere.

yamato's bit on rayn not making townreads 5 minutes in reads like yamato town, silly thing to say if scum, and not in a good-silly way. Carefree comment, nonsense read based on nonsense reads, town. Especially since rayn thinks/thought that yamato might be mafia for being serious, yamato super town.

keirathi hello! + Show Spoiler +
On April 03 2014 10:11 Keirathi wrote:
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On April 03 2014 10:09 iamperfection wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp i don't really think townreading people because of their reaction to obvious joke post was as easy comment is legit.

Uh ok. I use it a ton and I don't really get burned by it. Not really worried about it anyway as Yamato is super easy to read. But lets not try and give iamp advice he kind of knows what he is doing.

But do you know how to bake a pretty cake?
I believe it's a piece of cake, if the way is hazy. I was once told that I had to "do the cooking by the book" and also ordered to "break it down bitch ... drop dat ass down low then pick that muthafucka up"


gumshoe remarkably overzealous.

everything else when skimmed does nothing for me or my pee-pee.

red part: nono. yamato would try to read me as town but he would also "try to read me" as scum. either a lie or a very lazy comment
green part: another good one, or rather.. bad one. yamato's read or "read" is not nonsense. my reads are definitely not nonsense because i already said i am srs. so austin are you calling me a liar? or are you making the same lazy "didn't read properly, didn't think for a second and i admit it, but anyways i am taking a stance" opening post you made in last game?
blue part: how does me thinking yamato is serious make yamato more town? this makes no sense.

best lynch 2014.

I noticed this too and found it pretty strange. But I don't see why it's mafia-strange. austin is prone to making really stupid reads based on nothing (sorry my love). And of all the things to give a townread for, that one seems particularly stupid. So stupid in fact that making it as mafia seems far-fetched, because surely it's going to get you flak.

So while I can agree that the paragraph is poo-poo, you'll have to tell me exactly why it's red poo-poo.

So you are leaning towards the brainz explanation I take it.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 13:06 GMT
#836
On April 03 2014 22:05 Palmar wrote:
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On April 03 2014 22:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 21:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 21:45 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 21:44 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 21:40 Palmar wrote:
rayn marv and robik basically confirmed mafia. let's kill them.

you forgot your VE read

Palmar doesn't forget, palmar intentionally leaves out.

What does Palmar think about rayn then? He defended scumbrik and scumarv, you know.

Could you point out where did i defend marv?

You postponed your read on him. I was mainly joking - didn't expect Palmar to give useful answer tbh,

Why not I am helpful!

Based town hero!
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 13:16 GMT
#844
On April 03 2014 22:16 Palmar wrote:
Townies who are also good at this game:

snb
hf
palmar
iamp
wos
scraps

Jesters:

rayn

Scum:

marv
ve
robik

Robik - bussing like a mofo.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 14:33 GMT
#936
On April 03 2014 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:23 iamperfection wrote:
But since your here balla anything to say? if your mafia don't post accept your fate of course.

NO. I am *so* bored of mafia rolling over.

And still you complain if I say your games have been boring to observe.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 14:33 GMT
#937
This Thread needs more Koshi!
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 14:58 GMT
#973
On April 03 2014 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:52 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:52 Holyflare wrote:
And they aren't insults it's construtive. You keep targeting people in this game to come to no conclusion whatsoever. What's the point of that?

do you seriously think Robik is mafia??


No i actually think you are though

Then you should probably question marv and not robik, hm?
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 15:16 GMT
#1001
On April 04 2014 00:09 IAmRobik wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

Killing is DEFINITELY town. If you think otherwise, go read Foundations.

Wut? He was scum that game and hasn't played a town forum game afaik. Bad approach to meta him like that.
On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

You have my axe.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 15:18 GMT
#1006
On April 04 2014 00:17 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:09 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

Killing is DEFINITELY town. If you think otherwise, go read Foundations.

Wut? He was scum that game and hasn't played a town forum game afaik. Bad approach to meta him like that.
On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

You have my axe.

It's precisely the reason I have him marked as light town as well, actually

Well that's funny because Robik didn't even give an explicit reason.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 15:24 GMT
#1017
On April 04 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:20 Keirathi wrote:
I liked Killing's first few posts. They were carefree and fun loving.

Then he went all weird and nonsensical when he was questioning jat.

Idgi

He thought he found something and got caught in the moment of distraction. Pretty obvious.

He couldn't even explain whatever it was he was thinking...
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 15:26 GMT
#1022
On April 04 2014 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:20 Keirathi wrote:
I liked Killing's first few posts. They were carefree and fun loving.

Then he went all weird and nonsensical when he was questioning jat.

Idgi

He thought he found something and got caught in the moment of distraction. Pretty obvious.

He couldn't even explain whatever it was he was thinking...

That's not true.

Ok. Tell me.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 15:39 GMT
#1055
On April 04 2014 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:20 Keirathi wrote:
I liked Killing's first few posts. They were carefree and fun loving.

Then he went all weird and nonsensical when he was questioning jat.

Idgi

He thought he found something and got caught in the moment of distraction. Pretty obvious.

He couldn't even explain whatever it was he was thinking...

That's not true.

Ok. Tell me.

Just because he is wrong / you think he is stupid and/or saying bad doesn't mean he didn't explain himself because he quite clearly did.

Well, what did he say then rayn? You seem to know.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 15:43 GMT
#1060
On April 04 2014 00:41 Dandel Ion wrote:
at this point in time i should add

Maybe your radar is off. Or it is because people don't townread me that early most of the time. Foundation was an exception there.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 15:47 GMT
#1063
On April 04 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:20 Keirathi wrote:
I liked Killing's first few posts. They were carefree and fun loving.

Then he went all weird and nonsensical when he was questioning jat.

Idgi

He thought he found something and got caught in the moment of distraction. Pretty obvious.

He couldn't even explain whatever it was he was thinking...

That's not true.

Ok. Tell me.

Just because he is wrong / you think he is stupid and/or saying bad doesn't mean he didn't explain himself because he quite clearly did.

Well, what did he say then rayn? You seem to know.

He said you caring about the reasoning on one read but not the other is weird.
Then he said you might be scum for it because you could be waiting for someone to give a read that might end up being wrong in the end if they flip scum, you might want to pidgeon hole them into a read that you hope will make them look scummy. You're still my top scum read because of the amount of fluff and the feigning participation you've done.

I think that's a pretty clear explanation to what he thinks.

If I want to read what he said I can look that up myself. The point is that it makes no sense. I don't see the connection between asking for one read and the baiting part - I don't understand it at all and no, he didn't explain it. Am I being dumb here?
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 15:51 GMT
#1068
On April 04 2014 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: ..or does it make sense or not. That was not where i was commenting on because i don't think he was on the same page with you. But he DID explain himself, that's what i was saying, not that he made sense..

My point was that he wasn't explaining what I just asked you. Whatever, I will drop it for now and see what he does next.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 15:53 GMT
#1072
On April 04 2014 00:52 Dandel Ion wrote:
from my experience, what you should be looking for is whether he does something next or not

Really?
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 15:54 GMT
#1075
On April 04 2014 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: ..or does it make sense or not. That was not where i was commenting on because i don't think he was on the same page with you. But he DID explain himself, that's what i was saying, not that he made sense..

My point was that he wasn't explaining what I just asked you. Whatever, I will drop it for now and see what he does next.

Well maybe you are on page 1 he is on page 2 and i am on page 3. idk.
Anyways if you have a problem with him ask him.

lynch austin? i have a really good case on him.

Your case didn't really convince me to be honest. But I expect more from town austin than what he did this game.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 16:09 GMT
#1090
On April 04 2014 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: ..or does it make sense or not. That was not where i was commenting on because i don't think he was on the same page with you. But he DID explain himself, that's what i was saying, not that he made sense..

My point was that he wasn't explaining what I just asked you. Whatever, I will drop it for now and see what he does next.

Well maybe you are on page 1 he is on page 2 and i am on page 3. idk.
Anyways if you have a problem with him ask him.

lynch austin? i have a really good case on him.

Your case didn't really convince me to be honest. But I expect more from town austin than what he did this game.

What's wrong in my case?

You point out inconsistencies/a weak read but I don't see how they have to come from mafia necessarily.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 16:16 GMT
#1100
On April 04 2014 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 01:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: ..or does it make sense or not. That was not where i was commenting on because i don't think he was on the same page with you. But he DID explain himself, that's what i was saying, not that he made sense..

My point was that he wasn't explaining what I just asked you. Whatever, I will drop it for now and see what he does next.

Well maybe you are on page 1 he is on page 2 and i am on page 3. idk.
Anyways if you have a problem with him ask him.

lynch austin? i have a really good case on him.

Your case didn't really convince me to be honest. But I expect more from town austin than what he did this game.

What's wrong in my case?

You point out inconsistencies/a weak read but I don't see how they have to come from mafia necessarily.

I pointed out behavior that shows austin is giving his thoughts on something he doesn't even think through properly. That is scummy. Not necessarily enough to make him 100% mafia but him showing this exact same behavior in his last mafia game points even more towards him being mafia.

In his last mafia game he was really obvious. I don't see that yet - he needs to post more before I am able to read him.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 16:28 GMT
#1126
On April 04 2014 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
rayn is pretty town.

Agreed.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 16:31 GMT
#1135
On April 04 2014 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 01:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
rayn is pretty town.

Agreed.

You shouldn't have said this Plammer is gonna put you into scumpile.

Oh shit. Do I get lynched now?
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 16:36 GMT
#1148
On April 04 2014 01:36 Keirathi wrote:
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On April 04 2014 01:33 Palmar wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:32 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:28 GreYMisT wrote:
Balla24 is being replaced. This will happen in the next few hours.

We should just lynch the person who replaced balla. Balla clearly wanted out because he didn't want to be scum and made up some bullshit reasoning to GreYMisT (kidding, but not really)

Maybe he was drown in the shower.

Or maybe he was drive over by a car?

I don't love it when you do it. Faker!

Instant scumpile.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 16:38 GMT
#1152
On April 04 2014 01:37 Palmar wrote:
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On April 04 2014 01:36 Keirathi wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:33 Palmar wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:32 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:28 GreYMisT wrote:
Balla24 is being replaced. This will happen in the next few hours.

We should just lynch the person who replaced balla. Balla clearly wanted out because he didn't want to be scum and made up some bullshit reasoning to GreYMisT (kidding, but not really)

Maybe he was drown in the shower.

Or maybe he was drive over by a car?

I don't love it when you do it. Faker!

I am foreigner too.

Much to learn in this language. I must pledge myself to my studies. I must not falter, one day I will become like my master...

... OatsMASTER.

Not Kushmasta?
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 17:47 GMT
#1250
On April 04 2014 02:40 Koshi wrote:
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On April 04 2014 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:38 Koshi wrote:
can I be totally not interested the first 2 days? I will be superKoshi when the good players are dead.

only if you sheep me
im totes will smith

I am going to make sure my vote is on correct place. I will just be not very active. Living on the edge.

No, I am not a fan.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 19:06 GMT
#1343
On April 04 2014 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I told jat and marv, who were following the last game, that in my opinion they should pay more attention to what i say.
Not that it makes you scum austin. my case is what it is.

It is that you comment on things that you have not thought through. You make conclusions based on something you have not read properly. If you post conclusions on somthing i would expect you to think why people say what they do (in this case yamato and me). You are clearly not doing so, but you are STILL posting conclusions.

If you think I am not paying attention to what you are saying then you are just wrong. You aren't always right/what you say doesn't always make sense.
The austin post in question and your case just didn't give me anything. You could be right on marv but I will reserve judgement until he does something.
justanothertownie
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April 03 2014 20:24 GMT
#1386
On April 04 2014 05:23 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 05:20 Koshi wrote:
I would vote for you Blazinghand but I don't want to make marv comfortable.

I am extremely comfortable.

But you would be even more comfortable if BH was lynched. Admit it.
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 13:02 GMT
#1977
You are all a bunch of spammers. Reading now - any important things to look for?
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 13:56 GMT
#2056
On April 04 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote:
I never have a townfeeling on JAT.

Liar.
On April 04 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
I'm fairly sure it was Noir.

Hogwarts was even worse.

I am way more content with this game today - finally a whole bunch of townreads. Would be down to lynch Koshi for not being obvious town Koshi, Killing or sheep marv/sandro on Paperscraps.
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 14:01 GMT
#2065
On April 04 2014 23:00 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 22:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote:
I never have a townfeeling on JAT.

Liar.
On April 04 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
I'm fairly sure it was Noir.

Hogwarts was even worse.

I am way more content with this game today - finally a whole bunch of townreads. Would be down to lynch Koshi for not being obvious town Koshi, Killing or sheep marv/sandro on Paperscraps.

So how do you view Holyflare?

No idea. I actually only skimmed some of his posts... This argument with dandel for example is so useless.
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 14:02 GMT
#2069
Holy is at least non of the townreads if that helps.
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 14:04 GMT
#2071
On April 04 2014 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 23:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:00 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote:
I never have a townfeeling on JAT.

Liar.
On April 04 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
I'm fairly sure it was Noir.

Hogwarts was even worse.

I am way more content with this game today - finally a whole bunch of townreads. Would be down to lynch Koshi for not being obvious town Koshi, Killing or sheep marv/sandro on Paperscraps.

So how do you view Holyflare?

No idea. I actually only skimmed some of his posts... This argument with dandel for example is so useless.

Holyflare may or may not remain sandro's preferred lynch, so I suggest you try to find an idea.

If it comes to this I will but I don't see that many votes on him.
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April 04 2014 14:04 GMT
#2072
On April 04 2014 23:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 22:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote:
I never have a townfeeling on JAT.

Liar.
On April 04 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
I'm fairly sure it was Noir.

Hogwarts was even worse.

I am way more content with this game today - finally a whole bunch of townreads. Would be down to lynch Koshi for not being obvious town Koshi, Killing or sheep marv/sandro on Paperscraps.

It's not a lie. I am pretty sure I didn't have one on you in Noir or Hogwarts.
I don't remember any other games we played in, other than the one you were scum in and I totes called you scum.

So. where is lie?

PYP?
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April 04 2014 14:08 GMT
#2077
Marv, are you still townreading Killing? People said he was town because of his activity and carefree nature in contrast to his scumplay in foundation where he was to scared to post. Well...
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April 04 2014 14:08 GMT
#2078
On April 04 2014 23:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:03 Koshi wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote:
I never have a townfeeling on JAT.

Liar.
On April 04 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
I'm fairly sure it was Noir.

Hogwarts was even worse.

I am way more content with this game today - finally a whole bunch of townreads. Would be down to lynch Koshi for not being obvious town Koshi, Killing or sheep marv/sandro on Paperscraps.

It's not a lie. I am pretty sure I didn't have one on you in Noir or Hogwarts.
I don't remember any other games we played in, other than the one you were scum in and I totes called you scum.

So. where is lie?

PYP?

ah yes. We were totes bros there.

In the Newbie we played too. Why can't we be bros this game?
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April 04 2014 14:10 GMT
#2080
On April 04 2014 23:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, are you still townreading Killing? People said he was town because of his activity and carefree nature in contrast to his scumplay in foundation where he was to scared to post. Well...

My filter really is amazing
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 22:23 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 13:28 Killing wrote:
I'm going to sleep. See you tommorow boys.

You didn't appear all day the next day, and you seemed shit-scared to post as mafia in Foundation.

Me and others gave you a townread for having a different tone than in that game, but running away from the thread erodes that. Plz play.

Your filter is also quite big. So that's a no I guess.
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April 04 2014 14:11 GMT
#2083
On April 04 2014 23:10 marvellosity wrote:
It happened less than an hour ago, so how you missed it on your catchup of the thread is anyone's guess.

Probably hidden in a stupid argument.
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April 04 2014 14:16 GMT
#2088
On April 04 2014 23:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:00 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote:
I never have a townfeeling on JAT.

Liar.
On April 04 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
I'm fairly sure it was Noir.

Hogwarts was even worse.

I am way more content with this game today - finally a whole bunch of townreads. Would be down to lynch Koshi for not being obvious town Koshi, Killing or sheep marv/sandro on Paperscraps.

So how do you view Holyflare?

No idea. I actually only skimmed some of his posts... This argument with dandel for example is so useless.

Holyflare may or may not remain sandro's preferred lynch, so I suggest you try to find an idea.

If it comes to this I will but I don't see that many votes on him.

So you're going to neglect reading me because....? There's votes one me. You just stated that my argument with dandel is useless so you have no idea what I've done but you don't want to bother looking into me...?

If you insist I will.
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April 04 2014 14:17 GMT
#2089
But your filters tend to be ugly and annoying to read.
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April 04 2014 14:25 GMT
#2094
That reasoning for voting iamp is quite weak.
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April 04 2014 14:33 GMT
#2107
Ok, HF filter verdict:
Still no strong opinion. Won't lynch over Paperscraps atm.
I don't like how he went on Robik/dandel all day who are both pretty townie in my eyes. He didn't do much besides that. But he said he started playing today so I would give him some time - at least he commented on a few different people since then. Also he seems to have a possibly important role that could help town. His alignment could also become clearer by his usage of that role.
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April 04 2014 14:39 GMT
#2110
On April 04 2014 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
The people I won't lynch today under any circumstances:

rayn/Dandel/syllogism/iamp/IAmRobik/sandroba/jat*

*jat purely because he made me lol re: holy's filter, not because i find him particularly townie.

syllogism doesn't look amazingly townie but i don't think he's as useless as people are suggesting and there's no way i take that risk on day 1 based on what i've seen.

I really like that list. Looks almost exactly like mine.
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April 04 2014 14:40 GMT
#2113
On April 04 2014 23:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
The people I won't lynch today under any circumstances:

rayn/Dandel/syllogism/iamp/IAmRobik/sandroba/jat*

*jat purely because he made me lol re: holy's filter, not because i find him particularly townie.

syllogism doesn't look amazingly townie but i don't think he's as useless as people are suggesting and there's no way i take that risk on day 1 based on what i've seen.

I really like that list. Looks almost exactly like mine.

You also don't want to lynch the guy that is already dead? nice.

What a useful comment Koshi.
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April 04 2014 14:41 GMT
#2115
Koshi if you are town this is really really sad.
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April 04 2014 14:44 GMT
#2119
On April 04 2014 23:43 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:41 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
What are you waiting on Koshi for exactly? Also read on Paperscraps pls.


More waiting on content from Koshi. Spooked enough by role talk not to pursue d1.

As for paper, I think there are better choices. Backwards nonsense doesn't say much to me. His mafia game was much more wordy, but so was his town. Read changes on BH and VE change, when it they seemed like lynch preferences before.

I'd much prefer iamp or amiko if we have to compromise for the sake of majority.

You missed the strongest point, somehow.


Change on read town read to null? Not a huge deal to me.

Why? He includes the posts he found townie in his explanation for the null read.
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April 04 2014 14:55 GMT
#2132
On April 04 2014 23:54 kitaman27 wrote:
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On April 04 2014 23:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
You seem to be very against lynching Paper though kita. Like hes your 3rd scummiest dude but you really dont want to lynch him? Doesnt sit right with me.


How is he my third scummiest dude? These players are higher up on the chopping block for me:

iamp
Amiko
Hope
killing
syllo
Keirathi
and maybe Koshi
(VE?)

Keirathi and iamp... I heavily disagree here.
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April 04 2014 14:56 GMT
#2135
On April 04 2014 23:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
You seem to be very against lynching Paper though kita. Like hes your 3rd scummiest dude but you really dont want to lynch him? Doesnt sit right with me.


How is he my third scummiest dude? These players are higher up on the chopping block for me:

iamp
Amiko
Hope
killing
syllo
Keirathi
and maybe Koshi
(VE?)

Keirathi and iamp... I heavily disagree here.

nha Keirathi is evul.

I think it's more likely that you are evul.
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April 04 2014 14:57 GMT
#2136
On April 04 2014 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
You seem to be very against lynching Paper though kita. Like hes your 3rd scummiest dude but you really dont want to lynch him? Doesnt sit right with me.


How is he my third scummiest dude? These players are higher up on the chopping block for me:

iamp
Amiko
Hope
killing
syllo
Keirathi
and maybe Koshi
(VE?)

Keirathi and iamp... I heavily disagree here.

Oh and syllo too.
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April 04 2014 15:34 GMT
#2161
On April 04 2014 22:05 Palmar wrote:
I will not vote townbuddy scrapspaper

What happened?
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April 04 2014 15:39 GMT
#2165
On April 05 2014 00:38 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 00:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:05 Palmar wrote:
I will not vote townbuddy scrapspaper

What happened?

Oatsmaster the emperor asked me to vote.

Only rayn the prophet can make me change my mind now.

I somehow doubt he can.
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April 04 2014 15:48 GMT
#2175
On April 05 2014 00:47 Holyflare wrote:
and i don't care if antagonising robik was terrible he was a dick and full of himself last game and i relish in the opportunity to anger those kinds of people

Dandel-tier.
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April 04 2014 15:50 GMT
#2180
On April 05 2014 00:49 Koshi wrote:
So radiation. Good or bad?
I think bad.

Also my supercool cult QT is still not talking.
I give them 1 more hour before I spill the beans.

You should spill the beans now.
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April 04 2014 15:52 GMT
#2185
On April 05 2014 00:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 00:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:49 Koshi wrote:
So radiation. Good or bad?
I think bad.

Also my supercool cult QT is still not talking.
I give them 1 more hour before I spill the beans.

You should spill the beans now.

why?

Because I am curious.
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April 04 2014 16:18 GMT
#2195
On April 05 2014 01:09 Killing wrote:
Does this game take place on a ranch?

Dunno. Are you a donkey?
People are voting Paperscraps because he changed his read on poofter without any new evidence and didn't give a reasoning for it.
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April 04 2014 16:37 GMT
#2208
On April 05 2014 01:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 01:09 Killing wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:56 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv forgive me if I don't take your word for it But if some others can verify I'll definitely take it into account. I think you're wrong on Robik. So I will say I disagree strongly with you and encourage you to reread my case.


@Killing, Paperscraps (Maybe VE?) you guys play with Robik do you agree with my case? Also paper lots of heat on you atm why did you null read defend me?


Robert isn't mafia. If he rolled mafia in a game where he has many partners, he'd give no fucks. I don't know if he got some sick 3p role that he's excited to play but I'm sure that he's not mafia.

I'm only on page 99 but I'm gonna post because the Paperscraps BW is real. I think he's probably town, nothing he's written has been that scummy to me and it seems that people are jumping on him for the most part due to him writing backwards. I don't understand why no one has considered that he's decided to just troll by writing backwards. Everyone seems to jump to the conclusion that he's implying that his role requires him to write backwards. I don't believe he does have a role that requires him to write backwards but I also don't believe that he's mafia doing it.

Also, I think tehpoofter is mafia. He's playing very similarly to his video mafia meta when he rolls mafia. I'm going to finish reading the thread and then if I have time, I'll write up a small post.

You do realise he claimed that he came across an item that required him to write backwards, right? So at the very least he would be lying in order to write backwards?

Not only that. There still were people who said that he would do this to troll.
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April 04 2014 16:40 GMT
#2210
On April 05 2014 01:38 marvellosity wrote:
well Killing seems to be missing that whole thing when he says "people are implying that his role requires it" when he specifically wrote the reasoning in the thread.

I know. What I am saying is that he ALSO missed how people said Paperscraps would do this for fun.
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 17:07 GMT
#2236
You can be protown tomorrow. Why wouldn't you?
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April 04 2014 17:21 GMT
#2244
On April 05 2014 02:20 Koshi wrote:
I really can't shoot djodref though. Last game I lynched him on the same day his cat died. Really sad stuff.

Yes, yes you can.
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April 04 2014 17:45 GMT
#2258
On April 05 2014 02:43 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 02:40 marvellosity wrote:
too obvious.


The guy claimed horse. I'm not a horse. Are you a horse?

So?
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April 04 2014 17:48 GMT
#2265
On April 05 2014 02:47 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:43 Killing wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:40 marvellosity wrote:
too obvious.


The guy claimed horse. I'm not a horse. Are you a horse?

So?


Well if you're not a horse then you have no idea what the implications of being a horse have on this game.
That should make you AFRAID and/or NERVOUS as what they could do to you. Maybe they can pull town to Transylvania or some shit i don't know this game is crazy.

Exactly.
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April 04 2014 17:53 GMT
#2268
On April 05 2014 02:51 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:47 Killing wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:43 Killing wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:40 marvellosity wrote:
too obvious.


The guy claimed horse. I'm not a horse. Are you a horse?

So?


Well if you're not a horse then you have no idea what the implications of being a horse have on this game.
That should make you AFRAID and/or NERVOUS as what they could do to you. Maybe they can pull town to Transylvania or some shit i don't know this game is crazy.

Exactly.


I am town
I am not horse
Other town have not claimed horse
Other horse have not claimed town
One horse claimed anti-town

How can you just write exactly? Exactly what? We know nothing about horses. Can a horse tell us what makes them horses?

I bolded what I was responding to. We know nothing about it so why would you assume VA is scum by default?
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April 04 2014 17:57 GMT
#2270
On April 05 2014 02:56 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:51 Killing wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:47 Killing wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:43 Killing wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:40 marvellosity wrote:
too obvious.


The guy claimed horse. I'm not a horse. Are you a horse?

So?


Well if you're not a horse then you have no idea what the implications of being a horse have on this game.
That should make you AFRAID and/or NERVOUS as what they could do to you. Maybe they can pull town to Transylvania or some shit i don't know this game is crazy.

Exactly.


I am town
I am not horse
Other town have not claimed horse
Other horse have not claimed town
One horse claimed anti-town

How can you just write exactly? Exactly what? We know nothing about horses. Can a horse tell us what makes them horses?

I bolded what I was responding to. We know nothing about it so why would you assume VA is scum by default?


He's not scum, he's probably 3p.

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 16:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
My role is anti-town to clarify. and narcissistic. I wasn't going to get night killed anyway so I dont see any harm in revealing this


That's why I assume VA's role is bad for us. Because he said so.

Maybe. We should be lynching scum though.
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April 04 2014 18:03 GMT
#2274
On April 05 2014 03:00 Amiko wrote:
Robik
I don't feel his play lines up much with his play in Newbie LIV. I observed that game and was pretty attentive.
For one, he seemed reluctant to fake claim a role; that is one of the reasons I felt he was serious about being immune to nightkills.
His aggression varies a lot from game to game. In my first newbie game I played with Robik and he was pretty pleasant, but I've seem him go aggro in other games.

I still think he is most likely to be a 3rd party, potentially scum, so I wouldn't want to kill him. @IAmRobik let's win together?


Huh? I don't see how the bolded leads you to a scumread and if you think he is potentially scum I don't understand why you don't want to kill him.
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April 04 2014 18:04 GMT
#2276
Amiko why is Robik scum if he should not be third party? Why can't he be town?
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April 04 2014 18:10 GMT
#2279
On April 05 2014 03:09 Amiko wrote:
@JAT
I feel Robik is unlikely to be town because he claimed to be immune to nightkills. If he is town, he should want mafia to target him to soak KP.

I feel Robik's claim was not joking for a few reasons, but among them it's because I feel he is a player who is reluctant to fakeclaim. Another reason: it feels more believable since kita also claimed to be immune to nightkills.

So, I feel he is 3p or scum, more likely 3p because I don't think scum would claim it so early.
I don't see why town would claim it at all.

But why would scum/3rd party claim it?
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April 04 2014 18:14 GMT
#2282
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:

Ummmm, what else. Oh right. If I'm alive tonight, I'm going to be using my night action on Joey (it's nothing bad). I suggest no one target Joey or myself. It might turn out poorly for you.

Do you think he is lying? If he is not lying then claiming this as scum wouldn't be very smart, would it?
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April 04 2014 18:20 GMT
#2285
Foolishness, if you aren't gonna provide some reasoning for your reads you won't convince anyone. What about an opinion on the leading wagon?
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April 04 2014 18:41 GMT
#2296
On April 05 2014 03:39 Amiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 03:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 03:09 Amiko wrote:
@JAT
I feel Robik is unlikely to be town because he claimed to be immune to nightkills. If he is town, he should want mafia to target him to soak KP.

I feel Robik's claim was not joking for a few reasons, but among them it's because I feel he is a player who is reluctant to fakeclaim. Another reason: it feels more believable since kita also claimed to be immune to nightkills.

So, I feel he is 3p or scum, more likely 3p because I don't think scum would claim it so early.
I don't see why town would claim it at all.

But why would scum/3rd party claim it?


- Mafia deter shots from themselves via this claim from vigis/3p. So, vigis shooting are more likely to hit town.
- 3p same thing; except they probably don't care who dies. (rayn's roleclaim suggested he needed some other 3p though)
- 3p indicates their alignment to prepare to joint win

By the way, pretty much everything I am saying about Robik also applies to kitaman27 and generally, I think.

So you think Robik is lying about being immune and also mafia/3rd party together with Killing?
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April 04 2014 18:49 GMT
#2298
On April 05 2014 03:45 Amiko wrote:
I tend to think he is immune because in the only scum game I read of Robik he considered fakeclaiming but then hesitated and ultimately didn't do so. I think that reflects some discomfort with fakeclaiming, so I don't think he is likely to do so d1 when he doesn't have to do so.

Nothing specific I can think of to say about robik/killing right now, sorry.

If you think he isn't fakeclaiming - isn't it a protown thing to tell town that targeting him/Killing could be harmful? I don't see what mafia gains by doing so.
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April 04 2014 18:54 GMT
#2301
On April 05 2014 03:53 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 03:45 Amiko wrote:
I tend to think he is immune because in the only scum game I read of Robik he considered fakeclaiming but then hesitated and ultimately didn't do so. I think that reflects some discomfort with fakeclaiming, so I don't think he is likely to do so d1 when he doesn't have to do so.

Nothing specific I can think of to say about robik/killing right now, sorry.

If you think he isn't fakeclaiming - isn't it a protown thing to tell town that targeting him/Killing could be harmful? I don't see what mafia gains by doing so.

Mafia has much more KP than town, though in this case there is probably zero chance that mafia would waste KP on him. So I wouldn't call it alignment indicative

From a third party perspective maybe. But if he is mafia then mafia knows what's up without him telling the thread. It makes no sense then.
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April 04 2014 18:55 GMT
#2303
On April 05 2014 03:54 Koshi wrote:
Foolishness. I am going to shoot somebody you dislike.

Didn't you just say today we do what marv wants? And earlier you would shoot who is the most popular target?
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April 04 2014 18:59 GMT
#2305
On April 05 2014 03:58 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 03:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 03:54 Koshi wrote:
Foolishness. I am going to shoot somebody you dislike.

Didn't you just say today we do what marv wants? And earlier you would shoot who is the most popular target?

foolishness won my hearth.

And you could win a lynch if you do the wrong thing...
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April 04 2014 19:00 GMT
#2308
Koshi if you shoot syllo or iamp we will have problems.
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April 04 2014 19:26 GMT
#2322
On April 05 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, as fervently as I expect Foolishness to participate, sure. Do you disagree?

I don't think that is the best word to describe his play.
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April 04 2014 19:30 GMT
#2327
On April 05 2014 04:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, as fervently as I expect Foolishness to participate, sure. Do you disagree?

I don't think that is the best word to describe his play.

How about with the qualifier that he is working within the confines of a posting restriction (self-imposed or no)?

I don't care.
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April 04 2014 19:36 GMT
#2332
On April 05 2014 04:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
K then I'm just not gonna pseudo-defend Foolishness anymore. K?

Feel free to decide that yourself.
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April 04 2014 20:04 GMT
#2359
On April 05 2014 04:38 Koshi wrote:
Question.
Is marv/Jat more fun then rayn/koshi?

Answer.
No

What is that supposed to mean?
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April 04 2014 20:11 GMT
#2371
On April 05 2014 05:10 Paperscraps wrote:
.up this brought t'haven Robik ,Killing ,Tehpoofter surprised am I .wolves the to sheep lead and mafia as town pro super play I .now right me before kneeling by all would you ,mafia was I if that realize do guys You

And as town you suck?
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April 04 2014 20:16 GMT
#2379
On April 05 2014 05:14 Paperscraps wrote:
.bros open more be to have You .1 day scum lynch to going are you how not is That .on going bias confirmation of tons have and minded-closed are You .site this on linear so play you of lot A

Maybe you should present us a better target then if your logic is that superior. And I mean a target with reasoning that goes further than "read his filter".
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April 04 2014 20:22 GMT
#2388
On April 05 2014 05:20 Paperscraps wrote:
.bad = thinking linear/Static .said I Like .player a as developed have I since changed as play mafia My

You think antagonizing/lecturing people will get them off your wagon?
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April 04 2014 20:28 GMT
#2391
On April 05 2014 05:26 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 05:20 Paperscraps wrote:
.bad = thinking linear/Static .said I Like .player a as developed have I since changed as play mafia My

You think antagonizing/lecturing people will get them off your wagon?


?lynched be to about are they when do to scum for tactic smart a is that think you Do

About as smart as town when you are about to get lynched.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 21:28 GMT
#2431
We got a handful of lurkers here Foolishness. Examples: Djodref, austin, Hopeless, Vayne, Gumshoe and to some extend Amiko, Blazinghand and you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 21:38 GMT
#2436
On April 05 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote:
OK. I'm about to catch up. The only thing I want everyone to note is that foolishness is complaining a lot about the spam, but like 95% of the words that he posts are just filler. He BARELY gives opinions on anything -- the only real stances that I can remember him taking were 1) iamp being mafia and 2) he read someone town earlier, but I forget who it was.

Please do not be fooled by the long "newspaper" posts that he's making. THEY HAVE VERY VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO THEM!

Sherlock on the case.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 21:45 GMT
#2447
If the townleaders (marv, sandro) want a different wagon to succeed it should be started very soon. We still haven't even enough votes for this one. Just sayin.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 21:51 GMT
#2462
On April 05 2014 06:51 marvellosity wrote:
maybe we should honour the dead rayn and lynch austin :o

I would be down.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 21:59 GMT
#2472
I don't think I would like to lynch VA because in my experience he tries as scum while he doesn't give a fuck as town. Austin, Djodref, BH and gumshoe can die as far as I am concerned.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 22:08 GMT
#2485
On April 05 2014 07:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
My vote will simply go where your vote goes, my liege. I'm such a vote-slut.

Cool. Let's just roll scum like we did in Heavyweight Champ. Remember, I am the shepherd and you are my sheep

You are a funny guy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 22:41 GMT
#2546
So it is gumshoe, yes?
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 22:47 GMT
#2555
On April 05 2014 07:45 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 07:45 Paperscraps wrote:
.Amiko voted ninja I


Same.

Then you 2 have some convincing to do. Not that I wouldn't lynch Amiko but you need 15 (!) votes on him or you are just wasting yours.
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 22:50 GMT
#2558
On April 05 2014 07:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 07:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:45 Killing wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:45 Paperscraps wrote:
.Amiko voted ninja I


Same.

Then you 2 have some convincing to do. Not that I wouldn't lynch Amiko but you need 15 (!) votes on him or you are just wasting yours.

There's no lynch if we don't have 15 votes? Why wouldn't it just go to the highest target? That's so dumb/bad/blah/etc. I can't imagine us lynching correctly then

Majority voting. See the OP.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 22:50 GMT
#2559
On April 05 2014 07:49 Paperscraps wrote:
.nose my off skin No .t'don or yourself Convince

I feel a sudden urge to switch back to this guy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 23:14 GMT
#2576
Holy this defense smells.
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 23:18 GMT
#2584
On April 05 2014 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:15 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:13 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:09 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:08 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
pretty sure it's actually more because he's a scummy lurker that doesn't play the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/441178-newbie-mini-mafia-lii?user=Amiko

He only had a 5 page filter in a 9 person mini on day 4 lylo (as town)

It's about the "WTF IS THIS DUDE EVEN SAYING"

How can you not understand what he's saying? He's saying that as scum in newbie you were hesitant to fake claim a role so most likely you were telling the truth about being immune. He thinks you aren't mafia for that but the fact you claimed a role that can't die at night in the thread makes you not town either. Hence his read as 3p for you.

His paperscraps reasoning is marvs + some stuff about his read on bh being super weird saying that bh "should be honest" but doesn't elaborate more on it and then stops on bh altogether.

He keeps noting though that I could be mafia and that he wants to win with me. That makes 0 sense. Stop it.

As a proponent of "thinking logically" you're failing hard at it.

That's totally what mafia do. Call someone 3p/unlikely mafia but then claim mafia. Right? Right?

He didn't call him unlikely mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 23:19 GMT
#2586
On April 05 2014 08:18 Keirathi wrote:
Ugh we need a town hero to step up and make a decision.

Since Sandro is away it is marvs job to do so.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 23:23 GMT
#2592
On April 05 2014 08:22 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:15 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:13 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:09 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:08 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
pretty sure it's actually more because he's a scummy lurker that doesn't play the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/441178-newbie-mini-mafia-lii?user=Amiko

He only had a 5 page filter in a 9 person mini on day 4 lylo (as town)

It's about the "WTF IS THIS DUDE EVEN SAYING"

How can you not understand what he's saying? He's saying that as scum in newbie you were hesitant to fake claim a role so most likely you were telling the truth about being immune. He thinks you aren't mafia for that but the fact you claimed a role that can't die at night in the thread makes you not town either. Hence his read as 3p for you.

His paperscraps reasoning is marvs + some stuff about his read on bh being super weird saying that bh "should be honest" but doesn't elaborate more on it and then stops on bh altogether.

He keeps noting though that I could be mafia and that he wants to win with me. That makes 0 sense. Stop it.

As a proponent of "thinking logically" you're failing hard at it.

That's totally what mafia do. Call someone 3p/unlikely mafia but then claim mafia. Right? Right?

Meh. Not sure how it works. Maybe there are lost mafia? Maybe he was trying to soft to me to find him. I have no fucking clue cause we don't know what the dynamics are.

I will say that the fact that you finally said what you meant "that's totally what mafia do" instead of just coming out and saying that originally is fucking weird and awkward and I still think you're scum. DIE DIE DIE. If you have a shot, please shoot joey tonight.

Wait what? You've been saying Joey (Killing, right?) was town the whole game? Typo I assume, but just making sure.

Read his filter and you will understand.
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 23:35 GMT
#2604
That's his newspaper style Holy. I doubt he claims to be in a qt with paper.
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 23:37 GMT
#2608
The problem is confirming that part doesn't confirm your alignment and we would be wasting a shot.
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 23:41 GMT
#2615
On April 05 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:35 justanothertownie wrote:
That's his newspaper style Holy. I doubt he claims to be in a qt with paper.


So you don't find it odd that he never mentions paperscraps at all until i point it out at which point he makes a whole narrative about him and paperscraps 3 hours before the deadline saying paperscraps most likely town?

How does that mean he claims to be in a qt in any way? I don't follow your logic.
justanothertownie
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April 04 2014 23:43 GMT
#2619
On April 05 2014 08:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:35 justanothertownie wrote:
That's his newspaper style Holy. I doubt he claims to be in a qt with paper.


So you don't find it odd that he never mentions paperscraps at all until i point it out at which point he makes a whole narrative about him and paperscraps 3 hours before the deadline saying paperscraps most likely town?

How does that mean he claims to be in a qt in any way? I don't follow your logic.


I asked about the qt because of the narrative, it actually looked plausible that they were in a qt. Now i know they aren't it makes Foolishness weird for saying all of that so late in the day.

Ok, carry on.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 23:45 GMT
#2626
On April 05 2014 08:44 marvellosity wrote:
we're going to lynch Amiko

Fine. But getting enough votes in time could be hard.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 04 2014 23:49 GMT
#2635
Ok, switch to Amiko guys. Go. We need to lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 05 2014 00:07 GMT
#2671
On April 05 2014 09:05 marvellosity wrote:
with sandroba on gumshoe and others afk, i think he's our best chance at a lynch

and poisoner is a scummy kinda role anyway. even though role doesn't equal alignment, i'm reaching ;D

As long as you finally make up your mind...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 05 2014 00:07 GMT
#2673
Woops. Meant to quote marv.
justanothertownie
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April 05 2014 00:09 GMT
#2681
I give up. I demand that one of you changes icon RIGHT NOW.
justanothertownie
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April 05 2014 00:12 GMT
#2692
On April 05 2014 09:11 Holyflare wrote:
Please switch paperscraps item with foolishness just so everyone's eyes can bleed

Based town hero.
justanothertownie
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April 05 2014 12:08 GMT
#2827
On April 05 2014 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
Pretty odd that gumshoe got a majority in 20 mins that was higher than the majority on paperscraps that was there all day.

Hm, maybe it was because it was right before deadline and we needed a lynch? I have trouble believing you are this stupid.
On April 05 2014 19:59 Holyflare wrote:
You can ignore dandel, marv and holyflare because conversation took place about gumshoe when all were present.

???
I agree that you can ignore dandel and marv because they are probably town but I don't understand your reasoning here and people should definitely not ignore you.
justanothertownie
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April 05 2014 15:03 GMT
#2834
On April 06 2014 00:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 21:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
Pretty odd that gumshoe got a majority in 20 mins that was higher than the majority on paperscraps that was there all day.

Hm, maybe it was because it was right before deadline and we needed a lynch? I have trouble believing you are this stupid.
On April 05 2014 19:59 Holyflare wrote:
You can ignore dandel, marv and holyflare because conversation took place about gumshoe when all were present.

???
I agree that you can ignore dandel and marv because they are probably town but I don't understand your reasoning here and people should definitely not ignore you.


Well that's lovely jat but i was around during the only convo on gumshoe and actively agreed with those reasons. Hence you shouldn't waste your time on me. Which was the point of my post. It's a town lynch and i was present for the reasons why my vote was there same with marv/dandel.

I'm telling you to look into the people with 0 reasons. 0 posts about gumshoe, maybe even town reading gumshoe etc. It's not meant to be a leave me alone never look at me, that's the point of a vote analysis

Sounds like bullshit to me. Stop the useless general advice and tell us who did what you said and why that makes them scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 05 2014 15:22 GMT
#2846
On April 06 2014 00:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 23:21 IAmRobik wrote:
You should have been doing this all along:
On April 05 2014 20:51 Koshi wrote:
damn. now I will have to listen to Robik.



On April 05 2014 20:54 Koshi wrote:
Robik. Give me a list of 3 people you would like to see die.
I am like that guy from GoT.

They will die. (this is potential lie, I don't have kp maybe, people showed up)


I'm not sure I want to see this ability used yet. It's still early in the game where I don't think we have enough information to make a really informed decision on a shot and I think that the radiation counter is really dangerous to town and I wouldn't want to see it go up/be wasted this early.

wow. My hero doesn't know which mafia I should shoot.

Thought Foolishness was your hero.
justanothertownie
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April 05 2014 17:44 GMT
#2920
On April 06 2014 02:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote:
i think so

don't quote me on that though

It's life or dead.

Literally.

We lost the game if you are wrong.

You are allowed to pass.

But you would be seen as a wus.

What?
You should stop fishing for townreads btw. it looks really bad to do that at night.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 05 2014 17:46 GMT
#2922
On April 06 2014 02:45 sandroba wrote:
Clearly it wasn't me. It was marv actually.

Both of you are responsible.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 05 2014 18:52 GMT
#2939
On April 06 2014 03:47 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 03:45 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2014 03:34 Tehpoofter wrote:
I finally caught up with the thread. I can't decide if Robik started playing like hes town because hes town or because I called him out on not playing his town game.

so mafia


I don't think he is mafia anymore by the way hes playing this is what I expected from his town so I disagree that he is mafia.

Yeah... I doubt he was talking about Robik here.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 05 2014 19:34 GMT
#2968
On April 06 2014 04:31 Koshi wrote:
WoS should I shoot syllo?

No.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 06 2014 15:41 GMT
#3216
On April 06 2014 15:34 LSB wrote:
I'm just an innocent little townie. Why don't we focus on other people? Most importantly, JustAnotherTownie?

A promised, I will provide more reads! And it is Soontm!


Hopeless1der - Just click http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?user=Hopeless1der&view=all]His filter. Hopeless1der starts with spam and still haven't stopped. I am not entirely sure what he is doing but it doesn't even look like he is trying to play this game.

I will add him to my ever growing list of "obv mafia". Djodref, sandroba, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der. Unfortunatly there just seems to be too many "obv mafia" for all of them to be mafia

justanothertownie - Active without saying much. I always like to say one of the easiest ways (if you have the time) to play as a mafia member is to be very active and be the 'town discussion leader'. You get to ask a lot of questions, and make it seem like you are contirbuting without saying much yourself. To me, JAT's filter is a classic example of this. It consist of so many one line responses or questions to other players, although he has an 8 page filter, I can count the amount of times he wrote more than two lines with my fingers

But JAT just plays this way! I want you to compare this to his town play in Foundation Mafia. Yes he is active, but notice that he actually has posts with more than two lines. It also contains direct accusations of scums and his own opinions.



And your Third Party Reminder
Amiko - Claimed Third Party Bulletproof Survivor. Amiko has a little too much setup related talk which makes me suspcious of him. However Amiko is new and I would be hypocritical if I said that playing setup focus is mafia. Unfortunatly I really don't want to waste a lynch on this, so if any of the vigs would like to policy kill amiko I would be greatful

Wow, what a great case you made there.
"Dude is playing like town discussion leader. Also he is posting one liners like he does in all his town games. Must be mafia."
On April 06 2014 16:31 sandroba wrote:
lsb you need to roleclaim to me. you are on the list of people about to get murdered.

Very good. Very good indeed. Marv also said LSB needs to die.
On April 06 2014 21:26 Koshi wrote:
rayn ded
marv ded
Foolishness ded

I don't like this game anymore.

But I am still alive!

Sandro, why is Holy confirmed town to you? Yes, making this a pm game IS protown but he had to do something protown. Everything else would be a scumclaim.
I won't reach out for people btw. (I said I wouldn't ever join a pm game again for a reason). If someone wants to talk to me feel free to pm me/tell me how you want to communicate though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 06 2014 15:42 GMT
#3217
On April 07 2014 00:28 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 23:27 yamato77 wrote:
No, Foolishness' version of the list could be the more accurate version. Minus killing, who I think is townish.

Question is, who should we lynch first out of syllo, iamp, poof, djo, or Hopeless?

I say syllo.

We aren't lynching me ever and in fact are lynching at least one player outside that list.

Why aren't we lynching you? I didn't want you to be shot but lynching is a different story.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 15:52 GMT
#3222
On April 07 2014 00:50 Koshi wrote:
I told you people I am superprotown awesome.

now minions.

Lynch.Revenge.Search.
↑wrong order. But do it how you like.

Why do you let your minions do all the work this game? In your last games you had no problems doing the dirty work yourself.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 06 2014 15:54 GMT
#3228
On April 07 2014 00:53 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 00:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 07 2014 00:28 syllogism wrote:
On April 06 2014 23:27 yamato77 wrote:
No, Foolishness' version of the list could be the more accurate version. Minus killing, who I think is townish.

Question is, who should we lynch first out of syllo, iamp, poof, djo, or Hopeless?

I say syllo.

We aren't lynching me ever and in fact are lynching at least one player outside that list.

Why aren't we lynching you? I didn't want you to be shot but lynching is a different story.

There is no case for me being mafia other than the lack of effort. Fortunately I don't actually have to do anything now that this is a PM game and I can just discuss the game with Sandro. Besides that, for reasons that will be obvious soon.

Then you better convince Sandro because if you don't you will probably die.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 06 2014 15:56 GMT
#3230
On April 07 2014 00:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 00:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 07 2014 00:50 Koshi wrote:
I told you people I am superprotown awesome.

now minions.

Lynch.Revenge.Search.
↑wrong order. But do it how you like.

Why do you let your minions do all the work this game? In your last games you had no problems doing the dirty work yourself.

You funny minion. You funny.

The thing is - I am starting to believe you are actually town. I can't understand this change in the quality of your play if that's the case.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 06 2014 16:06 GMT
#3234
Yeah, basically syllo is either set up hardcore here or mafia. Those kills really implicate him.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 16:58 GMT
#3243
On April 07 2014 01:40 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 01:37 Killing wrote:
On April 07 2014 01:33 syllogism wrote:
Anyway, I tracked Amiko to Kita. He is mafia or lying for unknown reasons about his role.


On April 05 2014 09:08 Amiko wrote:
On April 03 2014 08:58 GreYMisT wrote:
I would like to remind the players that you may talk about what is in your role PM, but you may not directly quote it.


Modified survivor. My night action can be learning if a player has an item and taking it, if possible. I have a one shot that disables all item use and swaps items among players (1 for 1). I can protect myself at night (and no one else).

About the robik comment, I thought he was likely 3p and I figured he would notice that and assume I am also 3p from it, then send me something back to joint. But I don't blame him for giving it thread attention, it probably was a liability.

Lets hear it then why he decided to target Kita and how that ability makes sense for a survivor who supposedly just wins by staying alive.

Ok, I want to hear that too.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 06 2014 17:00 GMT
#3244
Why did you decide to track Amiko syllo? Did you not believe his claim?
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 17:04 GMT
#3247
On April 07 2014 02:01 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 01:54 yamato77 wrote:
If this is seriously your biggest concern, we are without a doubt lynching you today. I demand better from you than this, syllo, and if you are town you can deliver. If you are mafia you can die.

You don't make demands from me. I am just like every other player allowed to invest as much or as little time into the game as I want.

He was tracked to a kill and his role is almost certainly nonsense. It makes no logical sense. Look at his supposed abilities. His win con is to survive until the end of the game and he can either steal items or just self-protect every cycle. Then he also has a one-shot that disables item use and swaps items between players. How does any of that, self-protecting aside, make sense for a survivor? Even if he could just self-protect, he could basically claim and afk until the end of the game since no one is going to waste two kp on a claimed survivor.


Hmm, Greymist tends to give survivors some abilities to keep the game interesting for them afaik. Marv showed me his survivor role pm from a different greymist game and he had a whole bunch of abilities. The important part here is indeed that his target was a nightkill.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 17:05 GMT
#3249
On April 07 2014 02:05 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 02:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 07 2014 02:01 syllogism wrote:
On April 07 2014 01:54 yamato77 wrote:
If this is seriously your biggest concern, we are without a doubt lynching you today. I demand better from you than this, syllo, and if you are town you can deliver. If you are mafia you can die.

You don't make demands from me. I am just like every other player allowed to invest as much or as little time into the game as I want.

He was tracked to a kill and his role is almost certainly nonsense. It makes no logical sense. Look at his supposed abilities. His win con is to survive until the end of the game and he can either steal items or just self-protect every cycle. Then he also has a one-shot that disables item use and swaps items between players. How does any of that, self-protecting aside, make sense for a survivor? Even if he could just self-protect, he could basically claim and afk until the end of the game since no one is going to waste two kp on a claimed survivor.


Hmm, Greymist tends to give survivors some abilities to keep the game interesting for them afaik. Marv showed me his survivor role pm from a different greymist game and he had a whole bunch of abilities. The important part here is indeed that his target was a nightkill.

Do you mean parallel worlds? In that game Marv's win con was to use all the abilities, at which point he would be removed from the game. He actually claimed that role.

Yeah, that's probably it.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 17:13 GMT
#3253
On April 07 2014 02:12 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 02:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
My role PM from the most recent Aperture:
Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You are Edward Elric, the Fullmetal Alchemist! You understand the law of equivalent exchange: that in order to create something, you must first give up something of equal value. For every vote on you and the player playing Alphonse Elric, You have an extra antivote (not your regular vote) for that amount. This total can only be placed on one player, and may not be place on yourself or Alphonse. It will go into effect at the lynch. PM the hosts the name of the player to use this antivote. You also may not vote for yourself or Alphonse. You are masoned with Alphonse, know that he shares your win condition, and may communicate here: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/47CusBMYf6Bwu. If Alphonse dies, you will be given the option to give up all your abilities to resurrect Alphonse that coming phase. If you and Alphonse both vote for the same person an extra vote will be placed on that person. You win when either you or Alphonse has survived until the endgame.

"This pain's nothing...compared to what he's given up..."


Now obviously the resurrecting and whatnot is directly related to wincon, but the antivotes part is a bit of a stetch. On top of that I think VE's (he was Alphonse) ability was even less 'survivor-oriented.'


Does this not sound really similar to the sort of horsemen situation? They are masoned together and probably win if they make it to end game or some shit.

The only thing that indicates so for me is that all the horses refuse to play this game somehow.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 17:20 GMT
#3255
Gumshoe was the last one. Didn't play either, flipped town though.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 17:34 GMT
#3262
Oh, this needs coordination then. Regarding the lynch leader - that should be Sandroba as far as I am concerned.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 17:38 GMT
#3269
On April 07 2014 02:35 Koshi wrote:
You misspelled Koshi.
And nobody cares about Sandroba. He can easily be scum.

Go for iamp and Hopeless.

You were a shadow therefore I assume you read the shadow game. How the hell can Sandroba be mafia?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 06 2014 17:38 GMT
#3270
On April 07 2014 02:37 Koshi wrote:
iamp and Amiko is also fine for me. Unless Amiko proves town. Then we lynch syllo.

He is claimed 3rd party. He can't prove town...
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 17:40 GMT
#3274
On April 07 2014 02:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 07 2014 02:35 Koshi wrote:
You misspelled Koshi.
And nobody cares about Sandroba. He can easily be scum.

Go for iamp and Hopeless.

You were a shadow therefore I assume you read the shadow game. How the hell can Sandroba be mafia?

tbh I only read marv his posts and I haven't paid any attention to what sandroba actually wrote this game.

I suggest you do that then. Don't worry it isn't much.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 17:41 GMT
#3275
On April 07 2014 02:40 syllogism wrote:
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On April 07 2014 02:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Koshi you are all kinds of wtf this game.
Hey SYllo, going to comment about what I said about 3P in these games?

It does somewhat weaken the idea that the abilities should be survival oriented, but why would Greymist design a role that can either choose to self-protect every cycle or do random things that aren't likely to further the win con in anyway. The role you linked had a passive ability that helped it to survive and in addition to that an active one. More importantly, why would choose to steal from Kita and do you really think this is just a coincidence?

That is exactly the point here. Forget about the survivor ability speculation.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 19:37 GMT
#3302
Grats poofter, you successfully killed discussion!
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 19:43 GMT
#3305
The problem with that is that discussion that isn't 100% role related (claiming to your strongest townread etc.) has no reason to not be in the thread.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 06 2014 19:48 GMT
#3307
I like that plan. One of syllo and amiko is lying.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 21:05 GMT
#3318
Ok, in this case we lynch Syllo an LSB I guess.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 21:08 GMT
#3323
This doesn't clear Amiko tbh but I think we let him alone for now.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 21:11 GMT
#3326
I had a pretty early townread on iamp.... but on the other hand he kinda vanished lately. Hm.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 21:12 GMT
#3327
I think I prefer LSB as second lynch.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 22:09 GMT
#3364
Can't you die with dignity, BH?
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 22:10 GMT
#3368
On April 07 2014 07:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On April 07 2014 07:09 justanothertownie wrote:
dignity, BH

does not compute

I concur.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 06 2014 22:50 GMT
#3376
On April 07 2014 07:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On April 07 2014 07:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
and i thought you were just trying to be edgy about it

SHH I WAS

Sounds better like that, eh?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 06 2014 22:57 GMT
#3379
wat
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 22:57 GMT
#3380
Scumclaim right there.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 23:24 GMT
#3388
Strange...
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 23:51 GMT
#3407
On April 07 2014 08:49 Koshi wrote:
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On April 07 2014 08:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
told you to shoot syllo last nite koshi, you need to team up with me. im doing a lot more then you think

Yeah... I am certain I said I would do it but some1 told me to not do it. I forgot who and cant look atm. Maybe JAT.

Yes, that was me. You just don't shoot people like syllo - you lynch them.
justanothertownie
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April 06 2014 23:53 GMT
#3410
Well, I guess they will become close friends now.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 14:42 GMT
#3464
Wtf BH. Let's hope he used his ability before he died.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 14:46 GMT
#3466
I guess you are right. Even more wtf then.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 15:53 GMT
#3502
On April 08 2014 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
man i was inordaintly happy for a moment there robik.

This feels like fake.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 16:29 GMT
#3514
On April 08 2014 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On April 08 2014 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
man i was inordaintly happy for a moment there robik.

This feels like fake.

You have no love in your heart.

justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 16:43 GMT
#3533
On April 08 2014 01:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On April 08 2014 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 08 2014 01:36 Holyflare wrote:
why is "death" a dt? that is the biggest crock of shit i've ever heard

he is able to peer into the soul of his target, identifying any malicious intent


that sounds like terrible flavour seeing as death just kills everyone

death just shepherds the dead people to hell. He has to occupy his time with other stuff in the meantime.

I heard he likes cats.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 17:14 GMT
#3557
On April 08 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
12. Oatsmaster
15. austinmcc
16. Amiko
18. justanothertownie
20. LSB
22. Killing
24. VayneAuthority

i present to you the very likely, almost 85% sure scum team!


1) Too many persons.
2) I am not scum.
3) Killing is a townread for me.

Rest could be.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 17:17 GMT
#3561
On April 08 2014 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 08 2014 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
12. Oatsmaster
15. austinmcc
16. Amiko
18. justanothertownie
20. LSB
22. Killing
24. VayneAuthority

i present to you the very likely, almost 85% sure scum team!


1) Too many persons.
2) I am not scum.
3) Killing is a townread for me.

Rest could be.


then point out who is wrong on my town list instead

No need to. I said I disagree with 2 people on your list. There are enough left.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 17:19 GMT
#3563
On April 08 2014 02:18 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 08 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
12. Oatsmaster
15. austinmcc
16. Amiko
18. justanothertownie
20. LSB
22. Killing
24. VayneAuthority

i present to you the very likely, almost 85% sure scum team!


1) Too many persons.
2) I am not scum.
3) Killing is a townread for me.

Rest could be.


then point out who is wrong on my town list instead

No need to. I said I disagree with 2 people on your list. There are enough left.


you said it's the wrong number of people? how are you sure on that?

I said there were too many people. I don't know the number but 9 seems too much don't you agree?
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 17:22 GMT
#3565
I highly doubt it. But we will see I guess.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 17:23 GMT
#3567
9 mafia would mean 5 KP without roles.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 17:26 GMT
#3570
On April 08 2014 02:25 Holyflare wrote:
and you're saying there couldn't have been 5 kp?

No, I am saying that's too much.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 17:27 GMT
#3571
On April 08 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote:
why would there even have to be 5kp :o what if someone got healed or rb'd

Take a look at the OP.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 17:28 GMT
#3574
On April 08 2014 02:27 Holyflare wrote:
there could be 3kp with roles that kill once or twice or 4 kp or anything, why is that relevant?

Jesus dude it's in the OP. Mafia has #/2 rounded up KP. 9 mafia -> 5 KP.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 17:31 GMT
#3579
On April 08 2014 02:29 Holyflare wrote:
but even so, if we believe amiko is 3p then that's still the correct number of ppl

Now I am interested. How can YOU know it is the correct number of people if you don't know their roles?
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 17:34 GMT
#3584
On April 08 2014 02:32 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 08 2014 02:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:29 Holyflare wrote:
but even so, if we believe amiko is 3p then that's still the correct number of ppl

Now I am interested. How can YOU know it is the correct number of people if you don't know their roles?


huh............?

Seems like you are ruling out mafia roles with KP and/or 3rd parties with KP.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 17:38 GMT
#3586
On April 08 2014 02:37 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 08 2014 02:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:32 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:29 Holyflare wrote:
but even so, if we believe amiko is 3p then that's still the correct number of ppl

Now I am interested. How can YOU know it is the correct number of people if you don't know their roles?


huh............?

Seems like you are ruling out mafia roles with KP and/or 3rd parties with KP.


so you think there's less than 7 people vs 23 other people?

I am saying that I don't know it and if you aren't mafia then you can't know it either.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 17:39 GMT
#3588
The point here is - you can't conclude the number of mafia only by the N1 kills.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 17:41 GMT
#3592
On April 08 2014 02:40 IAmRobik wrote:
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On April 08 2014 02:38 Koshi wrote:
I have like decent % knowing chance that somebody on hf list is town and nobody called him town yet. My minions checked him out last night. But I have many bad minions so let's call it 85% sure.

Austin?

If austin is town this game then I am heavily disappointed.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 17:42 GMT
#3594
On April 08 2014 02:42 Palmar wrote:
Why does Holyflare think I am town, what magic is this? Are we looking at information beyond what is present here?

Who knows why Holyflare thinks what he does...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 17:46 GMT
#3598
On April 08 2014 02:45 Holyflare wrote:
the simple fact is jat, 4 townies/random people died last night and nobody claimed the shot, that's likely meaning that's 4 kp for scum because those shots would be retarded for townies to make

No shit sherlock. The simple fact is also that you don't know if those were the factional kills.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 17:48 GMT
#3601
On April 08 2014 02:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:45 Holyflare wrote:
the simple fact is jat, 4 townies/random people died last night and nobody claimed the shot, that's likely meaning that's 4 kp for scum because those shots would be retarded for townies to make

No shit sherlock. The simple fact is also that you don't know if those were the factional kills.

Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:46 Holyflare wrote:
and if they did make them and claimed, the claim would be so out there that they'd have to be town and even if they weren't town they would be super accountable at the end of the game


I think you are misunderstanding on purpose here. You are not this dumb.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 17:54 GMT
#3604
No, that means there are 4 dead people. We can't know if those were the factional mafia KP or mafia role KP or 3rd party KP or what not. You are the one being retarded.
Maybe there are 7-8 scum. I don't know that and you don't either unless you are scum yourself.
End of discussion.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 18:04 GMT
#3608
I won't discuss this with you any further. It leads nowhere and I got the feeling that you are being dense on purpose.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 18:08 GMT
#3614
On April 08 2014 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 08 2014 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:
I won't discuss this with you any further. It leads nowhere and I got the feeling that you are being dense on purpose.


who really cares, i've given you a list, you are arguing about numbers not the people on the list, your point is irrelevant to the game

I already gave my opinion on the people before that. Really HF? How are people sure this guy is town? Only because of his role?
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 18:09 GMT
#3616
Anyways. Will be back in an hour.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:13 GMT
#3630
On April 08 2014 03:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:
I won't discuss this with you any further. It leads nowhere and I got the feeling that you are being dense on purpose.


who really cares, i've given you a list, you are arguing about numbers not the people on the list, your point is irrelevant to the game

I already gave my opinion on the people before that. Really HF? How are people sure this guy is town? Only because of his role?


no, you are ON the list, because me and a select few do not know your alignment so clearly something must be wrong somewhere for us to not realise you are town, why can't the rest be wrong? why do you just blindly accept instead of trying to disprove the list or approve it

if you think i'm scum then why do you agree with my entire list - you and oats or w/e? am i thus bussing EVERYONE?????

i've given you a list, you increasingly think i am scummy, you do nothing to see or check whether what i'm saying is right


i'm still comfortable with you on the list

On April 08 2014 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
I really think JAT is town, but I can get down with the vast majority of that list.

On April 08 2014 02:06 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT and oats prolly town.

On April 06 2014 02:35 sandroba wrote:
I have jat as town because of the guy number 2 comment. I win.

On April 06 2014 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
I basically think jat is too confrontational and bitchy to be mafia. And he made me giggle a couple times.

On April 06 2014 02:36 Koshi wrote:
wow everybody wants to be jats friend.
I was first tbh.

Clearly noone is able to townread me this game.

I never said the rest of the list can't be wrong but they fit with the people that I don't have a townread on pretty well. You are misrepresenting so hard right now I think you are probably scum and yes you are absolutely able to bus your whole team although since you are going after me you are going after the town in the list.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 19:16 GMT
#3633
Marv totally 3p sure buddy.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:19 GMT
#3636
I don't see how marv was 3p in any way. You are bullshitting and I won't keep arguing with you.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:20 GMT
#3637
"Oh people have been wrong so that means all their reads have to be wrong!"
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:25 GMT
#3639
Holy, do you not know how a town rolepm looks like? "3p wins with town"?
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:27 GMT
#3642
How do you know? Do you really think marv was 3p? I think you slipped bro.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:27 GMT
#3643
Well, I am town and I also have the sentence "You win with town." in my rolepm.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:29 GMT
#3647
On April 08 2014 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 08 2014 04:27 justanothertownie wrote:
How do you know? Do you really think marv was 3p? I think you slipped bro.


keirathi and gumshoe are green and it mentions them being town

marv was blue and it mentions him only winning with town

Cute. Try again.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 19:32 GMT
#3653
On April 08 2014 04:30 Holyflare wrote:
yes my pm says win with town and it doesn't say i'm town and i'm blue so i assumed it was 3p because there have been greens that said they were town and had a power too (i checked and gumshoes doesnt by he has a power and keirathis does and he also had power)

lol, sure.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:34 GMT
#3656
On April 08 2014 04:33 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 08 2014 04:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
So you honestly thought that you were 3p, amiko is claimed 3p, and scum shot 3 3ps on night one?

And that makes sense to you?


scum shot 3 towny looking people and i assumed they were 3p yeh x_x

Totally believable. Totally.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:35 GMT
#3658
On April 08 2014 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
look it's irrelevant you know what i am

i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded

Well, the last dimensional lemming was scum. Just sayin.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 19:35 GMT
#3660
Oh lol. I can't read.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:36 GMT
#3661
On April 08 2014 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
there is also in my filter clear evidence that i knew that to be the case, where people say "his role is anti town so he must be mafia" - oats

and i say

"no i dont think so because powers aren't alignment indicative"

is that what i do to spread an agenda?

That is in no way "clear evidence".
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 19:39 GMT
#3664
Ok, does anyone belive HF here? I could have bought it if he said that he forgot the "You win with the town" maybe but his explanation "oh I thought I and all the flipped people were 3p" is something only a cornered scum would pull out.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 19:43 GMT
#3669
Yeah and obviously marv and Foolishness and rayn and Kita all were 3p too. Because there are more 3p in this game than other factions.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 19:44 GMT
#3671
And also it is retarded for me to not be sure about the N1 kills although there are like 10 3p players in the game. Seems legit.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:45 GMT
#3675
Just roll over and die HF.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:48 GMT
#3680
On April 08 2014 04:47 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 08 2014 04:44 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:41 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
look it's irrelevant you know what i am

i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded
How is that retarded?


because i wouldn't know that powers can be any alignment this game if im scum so i'd assume it would be a mafia power if i was mafia.......... as i only checked the mafia awards and it said it was a mafia role
Wait, what?

Why is what you did, "Hey guys I'm softhard claiming dimensional lemming" retarded to do as mafia?


i've never seen dimensional lemming in a game before so the only knowledge i have is that it's a mafia role (if i was mafia) and also the fact that i checked the awards thread where lemming was voted best mafia role. So there is no knowledge that lemming COULD be town in this game so there is 0% chance that i would risk claiming lemming this game if i was mafia at the start of the game onwards, that's why it would be retarded (to me at least)

I don't buy it.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:51 GMT
#3683
On April 08 2014 04:50 Koshi wrote:
why we care so much about HF. His list looks pretty good.
He is not lynch material except if he stole this list from people who were going to bring this list public really soonish and HF just posted it fast for town cred.

I am lynching many peoples on the list before HF tbh.

So you believe his bullshit?
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 19:55 GMT
#3688
On April 08 2014 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:52 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:47 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:44 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:41 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
look it's irrelevant you know what i am

i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded
How is that retarded?


because i wouldn't know that powers can be any alignment this game if im scum so i'd assume it would be a mafia power if i was mafia.......... as i only checked the mafia awards and it said it was a mafia role
Wait, what?

Why is what you did, "Hey guys I'm softhard claiming dimensional lemming" retarded to do as mafia?


i've never seen dimensional lemming in a game before so the only knowledge i have is that it's a mafia role (if i was mafia) and also the fact that i checked the awards thread where lemming was voted best mafia role. So there is no knowledge that lemming COULD be town in this game so there is 0% chance that i would risk claiming lemming this game if i was mafia at the start of the game onwards, that's why it would be retarded (to me at least)
SO HERE'S WHY I ASK

You were softhard claiming this on D1. A bunch. This is a 30 person game. 29 of the people are NOT YOU.

And the ENTIRE time you're doing this, how many people said "dimensional lemming was a mafia role last time, therefore HF is mafia."

I believe the answer is 0. If it's higher, it's like 1-2 max.

You have straight up evidence from this game that people don't just connect a role that's been mafia once to being mafia always. How can you think it would be otherwise? You can't honestly say it's retarded and people would think this when you KNOW they don't, because THEY JUST DIDN'T.


yes that's fine to say when it's already happened but if i'm mafia why would i think they would agree that it's not alignment indicative if the only evidence is that it's only been a scum role!?

I think you knew they would agree. People aren't stupid.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 20:34 GMT
#3711
On April 08 2014 05:32 Killing wrote:
If people have the same win cond as me, I want to work with them.
If they don't, then I want to lynch them.

Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
The list!

1. Keirathi
2. Djodref - likely modkill
3. Holyflare
4.Tehpoofter
5. Koshi
6. raynpelikoneet
7. marvellosity
8. Dandel Ion
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
11. kitaman27
12. Oatsmaster
13. strongandbig
14. VisceraEyes
15. austinmcc - from multiple sources outside
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der
18. justanothertownie - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
19. WaveofShadow
20. LSB
21. Paperscraps - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
22. Killing
23. Foolishness
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar
26. yamato77
27. IAmRobik
28. sandroba
29. gumshoe
30. Blazinghand



I'm pretty good with that list except:

1. I'm not town on austin but I don't have the info that you claim to have.
2. I'm not town on snb, I don't really have a good read on him. I can't even recall a lot of what he has said, hasn't really stuck out.
3. Same with WoS but I'm leaning town on him.
4. I'm not town on HF but the going full crazy over blue green reads townie to me imo. If I was mafia, I wouldn't argue about color for 3 pages.
5. Paperscraps could be colored as green. I've probably spoken to him the most during the pm phase.

Rest is coool

HF is going crazy cause he has been caught. It's not voluntarily.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 20:38 GMT
#3718
On April 08 2014 05:35 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:32 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:28 Killing wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA!


My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role.
No, different thoughts.

If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period?


As posted above, I think it's probably coming from a townie POV. As scum, it's probably a bad idea to argue over semantics and make yourself look bad. I think there's probably a reasoning over the difference in coloring the role but not one that is currently visible to the town nor the one that HF is proposing. It's townie to trying and figure it out though. If he was mafia, anyone that wins with town is his enemy anyways so he probably wouldn't care much. The only way it would be a good play as mafia is if he's trying to drum up paranoia or some shit but it doesn't make any sense.

He didn't bring that up to talk about it. He was forced to because what he says doesn't add up.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 20:47 GMT
#3725
On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote:
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum

break down the scenario for me

like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that?

How I see this:
HolyFlare didn't know how a town rolepm looked like. He was called out for that, paniced and came up with this ridiculous explanation of how he thought he was 3p and all the other people who flipped blue too because he felt caught.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 20:49 GMT
#3727
Just listen to austin he gets it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 21:43 GMT
#3745
On April 08 2014 06:32 austinmcc wrote:
I'd kill Killing.

Townies defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but this case is different because of x, y, z" or "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but I think these other things he's done are townie, and overall he's townie." Scum defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but scum don't like being scummy, so him doing a scummy thing makes him town." (BECAUSE HOLY CRAP THE MOMENT YOU MAKE THAT ARGUMENT ONCE, EVERYONE IN THE GAME EVER WHO DOES SCUMMY STUFF IS KINDA TOWN IN YOUR BOOK AND THAT MAKES NO SENSE)

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On April 03 2014 12:05 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:59 sandroba wrote:
I don't think any button discussion is going to get us anywhere. How about we see what people decide to do and talk about it when it becomes relevant? My initial guess is most of us don't want CATASTROPHE in our lives right now.


You're assuming the catastrophe will be town specific. It's possible that it makes the game harder for mafia and 3p at the same time. I think we also have to put some value on the button. We need to know how important it is to have it guarded or try to deactivate it compared to using our town powers. It might be that it's better to have weaker roles guard the button rather than carry out their business. If we don't make a plan to deal with the button, mafia might just make a rush for it if they assume the consequences will fall on the town side.
Here, Killing is of the mindset that perhaps that Catastrophe is good for town. This is true, we don't know what the Catastrophe is, and whether it's good or bad.

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On April 07 2014 08:48 Killing wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dunno, I pushed the button

zz

did you forget that was an option? I need CATASTROPHE™ to occur if I'm going to make any money.


So you're not town.........
Here, Hopeless is not town because he wants Catastrophe to happen. Implying that Catastrophe is bad for town only.

Which is the opposite of the above. We have learned nothing about Catastrophe, are entirely unsure what it does. Killing argues that it MIGHT be beneficial to town, perhaps, but then that Hopeless is scum for wanting it to happen.

Yeah, I retract my townread.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 21:46 GMT
#3749
Austin stop giving him the chance to make this a shitfest. People will only mistakenly townread him for that.
justanothertownie
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April 07 2014 21:47 GMT
#3750
On April 08 2014 06:45 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 06:32 austinmcc wrote:
I'd kill Killing.

Townies defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but this case is different because of x, y, z" or "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but I think these other things he's done are townie, and overall he's townie." Scum defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but scum don't like being scummy, so him doing a scummy thing makes him town." (BECAUSE HOLY CRAP THE MOMENT YOU MAKE THAT ARGUMENT ONCE, EVERYONE IN THE GAME EVER WHO DOES SCUMMY STUFF IS KINDA TOWN IN YOUR BOOK AND THAT MAKES NO SENSE)

On April 03 2014 12:05 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:59 sandroba wrote:
I don't think any button discussion is going to get us anywhere. How about we see what people decide to do and talk about it when it becomes relevant? My initial guess is most of us don't want CATASTROPHE in our lives right now.


You're assuming the catastrophe will be town specific. It's possible that it makes the game harder for mafia and 3p at the same time. I think we also have to put some value on the button. We need to know how important it is to have it guarded or try to deactivate it compared to using our town powers. It might be that it's better to have weaker roles guard the button rather than carry out their business. If we don't make a plan to deal with the button, mafia might just make a rush for it if they assume the consequences will fall on the town side.
Here, Killing is of the mindset that perhaps that Catastrophe is good for town. This is true, we don't know what the Catastrophe is, and whether it's good or bad.

On April 07 2014 08:48 Killing wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dunno, I pushed the button

zz

did you forget that was an option? I need CATASTROPHE™ to occur if I'm going to make any money.


So you're not town.........
Here, Hopeless is not town because he wants Catastrophe to happen. Implying that Catastrophe is bad for town only.

Which is the opposite of the above. We have learned nothing about Catastrophe, are entirely unsure what it does. Killing argues that it MIGHT be beneficial to town, perhaps, but then that Hopeless is scum for wanting it to happen.

Yeah, I retract my townread.

on killing?

Yes.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 22:14 GMT
#3758
On April 08 2014 07:11 Koshi wrote:
Who killed BH btw?

It's not that it is the worst kill but I think there could be better targets. was it Oats?

You need to read, dude.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 22:15 GMT
#3760
On April 07 2014 23:58 sandroba wrote:
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On April 07 2014 23:30 strongandbig wrote:
sadroba was that the dayvig I gave you that killed bh?

oats I'll PM you but you know you could also pm me if you wanted o talks about something.


yes.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 07 2014 23:32 GMT
#3782
On April 08 2014 08:30 iamperfection wrote:
i think Syllogism might be mafia

You don't say!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 00:59 GMT
#3814
Sorry buddy, but you are crazy

##Ruby: sandroba

Everything I said was genuine.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:01 GMT
#3819
Too late friend.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:02 GMT
#3822
Not scum btw.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:07 GMT
#3830
What did you bastards do to save sandro How am I supposed to win like that?
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:08 GMT
#3835
On April 08 2014 10:07 Holyflare wrote:
yeh that's -1 jat then, standard list of awesome wins games

I am not scum. You should concentrate on other people.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 01:09 GMT
#3840
Yes, but not a lynch towards town wincon right now.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:11 GMT
#3845
No, I am not. The goodbye message was there because I naively hoped that I had won. If Sandro died you wouldn't have to deal with me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 01:11 GMT
#3846
I would never out me like that as scum. Show a little respect.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:13 GMT
#3854
On April 08 2014 10:11 Holyflare wrote:
just tell us your win con because right now sandro is in a fortress of wtf defence and will never die

I am waiting for confirmation but right now my wincon is that sandro dies. If he can't die then I can't win and may aswell help town.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:23 GMT
#3881
WoS did you create the damn ruby?
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:27 GMT
#3895
On April 08 2014 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
HAHA palmar

JAT no questions answered until you let us know about you.

What do you want to know?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 01:31 GMT
#3904
On April 08 2014 10:30 Palmar wrote:
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On April 08 2014 10:29 geript wrote:
dammit now I have to read Marv too and he's hella long filter.

You should perhaps read my filter. It's insightful.

Scumpile.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 01:33 GMT
#3911
On April 08 2014 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On April 08 2014 10:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
HAHA palmar

JAT no questions answered until you let us know about you.

What do you want to know?

Full roleclaim.
In fact at this point considering how much behind the scenes KP we have stocked up it may yet be prudent for massclaim? At least for the non-greens on the list.
That I'm not sure of, what are peoples thoughts

I basically already claimed my role to Sandro earlier. I win when all insane people are dead.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 01:35 GMT
#3923
On April 08 2014 10:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
How do you know sandro is insane then and how do you know he's the only one?

At the start of each night I get a list of all insane people and I also get to know how many of them are able to cause insanity.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:37 GMT
#3928
On April 08 2014 10:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
How do you know sandro is insane then and how do you know he's the only one?

At the start of each night I get a list of all insane people and I also get to know how many of them are able to cause insanity.


what does insanity do?

Nothing that I know of besides that it's my job to kill those people.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:39 GMT
#3936
On April 08 2014 10:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:35 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
How do you know sandro is insane then and how do you know he's the only one?

At the start of each night I get a list of all insane people and I also get to know how many of them are able to cause insanity.


what does insanity do?

Nothing that I know of besides that it's my job to kill those people.

And you're 3/4P with a solo wincon?
Is there anyone linked to you in any way?

No. I am solo 3p.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 01:43 GMT
#3948
Well, I could help town. I could shed some light on the N1 kills if you let me live. And most important killing me does not kill scum.
As long as Sandro lives and can't die I am basically a survivor.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:45 GMT
#3957
On April 08 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, I could help town. I could shed some light on the N1 kills if you let me live. And most important killing me does not kill scum.
As long as Sandro lives and can't die I am basically a survivor.

How are you a survivor if you don't win with us?
The second we let our guard down you kill sandro/any others who go insane in future.
What benefit is there to you to help us?

Don't worry. There is noone left that is able to cause insanity.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:48 GMT
#3965
On April 08 2014 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, I could help town. I could shed some light on the N1 kills if you let me live. And most important killing me does not kill scum.
As long as Sandro lives and can't die I am basically a survivor.

How are you a survivor if you don't win with us?
The second we let our guard down you kill sandro/any others who go insane in future.
What benefit is there to you to help us?

Don't worry. There is noone left that is able to cause insanity.


It's funny you mention that. I'm pretty sure by sheer coincidence that's true but it may not have been if you hadn't acted.

Well, I won't deny that.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:50 GMT
#3967
On April 08 2014 10:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, I could help town. I could shed some light on the N1 kills if you let me live. And most important killing me does not kill scum.
As long as Sandro lives and can't die I am basically a survivor.

How are you a survivor if you don't win with us?
The second we let our guard down you kill sandro/any others who go insane in future.
What benefit is there to you to help us?

Don't worry. There is noone left that is able to cause insanity.


It's funny you mention that. I'm pretty sure by sheer coincidence that's true but it may not have been if you hadn't acted.

Well, I won't deny that.

Doesn't change the fact that I won't ever need to kill anyone besides Sandro.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 01:51 GMT
#3970
On April 08 2014 10:50 Holyflare wrote:
I cannot un-bomb a person.

Did you bomb me for real or does it not count if you don't bold?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 01:54 GMT
#3976
On April 08 2014 10:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, I could help town. I could shed some light on the N1 kills if you let me live. And most important killing me does not kill scum.
As long as Sandro lives and can't die I am basically a survivor.

How are you a survivor if you don't win with us?
The second we let our guard down you kill sandro/any others who go insane in future.
What benefit is there to you to help us?

Don't worry. There is noone left that is able to cause insanity.


It's funny you mention that. I'm pretty sure by sheer coincidence that's true but it may not have been if you hadn't acted.

Well, I won't deny that.

Doesn't change the fact that I won't ever need to kill anyone besides Sandro.

And as I said, it doesn't change the fact that we basically have to kill you for that reason, unless you can come up with some reason not to.

Well, as long as Sandro is save there is no reason to kill me. And if he isn't save at some point mafia will probably shoot him anyways.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 01:55 GMT
#3981
If tomorrow really is cell mafia then I could hopefully prove to you that I am not scum at least.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 01:56 GMT
#3982
On April 08 2014 10:55 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, I could help town. I could shed some light on the N1 kills if you let me live. And most important killing me does not kill scum.
As long as Sandro lives and can't die I am basically a survivor.

How are you a survivor if you don't win with us?
The second we let our guard down you kill sandro/any others who go insane in future.
What benefit is there to you to help us?

Don't worry. There is noone left that is able to cause insanity.


It's funny you mention that. I'm pretty sure by sheer coincidence that's true but it may not have been if you hadn't acted.

Well, I won't deny that.

Doesn't change the fact that I won't ever need to kill anyone besides Sandro.

And as I said, it doesn't change the fact that we basically have to kill you for that reason, unless you can come up with some reason not to.

Well, as long as Sandro is save there is no reason to kill me. And if he isn't save at some point mafia will probably shoot him anyways.


Did you try to kill Sandro N1?

No.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 01:56 GMT
#3984
On April 08 2014 10:55 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, I could help town. I could shed some light on the N1 kills if you let me live. And most important killing me does not kill scum.
As long as Sandro lives and can't die I am basically a survivor.

How are you a survivor if you don't win with us?
The second we let our guard down you kill sandro/any others who go insane in future.
What benefit is there to you to help us?

Don't worry. There is noone left that is able to cause insanity.


It's funny you mention that. I'm pretty sure by sheer coincidence that's true but it may not have been if you hadn't acted.

Well, I won't deny that.

Doesn't change the fact that I won't ever need to kill anyone besides Sandro.

And as I said, it doesn't change the fact that we basically have to kill you for that reason, unless you can come up with some reason not to.

Well, as long as Sandro is save there is no reason to kill me. And if he isn't save at some point mafia will probably shoot him anyways.


Did syllo message you asking if you were 3p?

No.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 02:01 GMT
#3989
On April 08 2014 10:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:55 justanothertownie wrote:
If tomorrow really is cell mafia then I could hopefully prove to you that I am not scum at least.

lol it doesn't really matter if you're trying to kill one of us, does it?
Anti-town means you die

It's only one of you and afaik he is also save. I can offer information and I will be a good little sheep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 02:03 GMT
#3991
As long as you guys roll scum every KP/lynch is better used on them and should you stop finding them my vote could become important.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 02:05 GMT
#3993
On April 08 2014 11:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:03 justanothertownie wrote:
As long as you guys roll scum every KP/lynch is better used on them and should you stop finding them my vote could become important.

Yes but again the point remains, if you can only win by removing one of us, I don't see what's in it for you to cooperate with us.

Whatever we'll figure it out.

Well, I think that is obvious. Survival.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 02:08 GMT
#3995
Seriously HF. If you think I would publicly announce a shot on sandro as scum you are crazy. But whatever I don't trust you anyways.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 02:11 GMT
#4000
On April 08 2014 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:05 Holyflare wrote:
The list!

1. Keirathi
2. Geript - famine, green checked by ve (untrustworthy) bombed at the moment - may be able to stop it if he proves town status
3. Holyflare
4.Tehpoofter
5. Koshi
6.raynpelikoneet
7. marvellosity
8. Dandel Ion
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
11. kitaman27
12. Oatsmaster
13. strongandbig
14. VisceraEyes - green checked djo/geript (weird check on djo, don't trust atm)
15. austinmcc - from multiple sources outside
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der
18. justanothertownie - 3p town hero wannabe killer
19. WaveofShadow
20. LSB
21. Paperscraps - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, starting to lean that way
22. Killing - starting to look towny to me imo but still can't be sure (power reduces chaos counter so hmmmmm)
23. Foolishness
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar
26. yamato77
27. IAmRobik - too many wrong reads
28. sandroba
29. gumshoe
30. Blazinghand



new scummy list until further notice:

2. Geript - waiting for role claim or he will explode, possibly town with claim
12. Oatsmaster
14. VisceraEyes - possibly cop
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der - maybe
20. LSB
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar - maybe
27. IAmRobik


I have removed both shop people from the town list because otherwise there is potential for it to not add up. I'm hesitant to call them scum though.


Biggest problem I see is if scum get at least 3 kills tonight (which I would assume they do) and they all go off, the ratio on D3 is going to be something like 6:6:4
And that's assuming we have all the anti-town business accounted for and some lone wolf townie doesn't fuck us up somehow. (obviously numbers can be wrong here but I'm going with worst-case town scenario here)
3Ps if you don't want to flat-out lose to scum you're going to have to cooperate.

lol, now you want my help.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 02:14 GMT
#4005
On April 08 2014 11:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Seriously HF. If you think I would publicly announce a shot on sandro as scum you are crazy. But whatever I don't trust you anyways.


there is only red, blue, green and black

you're a 3p killer (as noted) and in italics not normal red

Ok, carry on then.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 02:14 GMT
#4006
On April 08 2014 11:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:08 Paperscraps wrote:
@HF - Why do think Dandelion is town?


i just know™

u so wise. read so hard!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 02:18 GMT
#4012
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 02:20 GMT
#4016
On April 08 2014 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.

I'm not assuming town has this in the bag. I would think that my ratio calculation proves this.

Yes, but everyone else seems to be celebrating already.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 02:20 GMT
#4019
On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.


have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end.

One of the 2 horses? How can VE be town if Geript is mafia?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 02:22 GMT
#4022
On April 08 2014 11:20 Holyflare wrote:
cell mafia will make the game easy

Do you have any idea how 3rd party players will be implemented there? I don't.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 02:24 GMT
#4027
On April 08 2014 11:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:20 Holyflare wrote:
cell mafia will make the game easy

Do you have any idea how 3rd party players will be implemented there? I don't.


yes they are counted as town regardless of win con, mafia are the ones split into each cell

Splendid. Did you ask the host? I hope you don't just assume that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 02:27 GMT
#4034
You did create the ruby WoS, didn't you? Please tell me for my sanity.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 02:33 GMT
#4037
On April 08 2014 11:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:27 justanothertownie wrote:
You did create the ruby WoS, didn't you? Please tell me for my sanity.

I told you.
I want a complete roleclaim because I want to know what you're capable of, ESPECIALLY if we're going to risk leaving you alive. After that you get your answer.

Huh? I thought I did a full roleclaim. I am the Ironically Sociopathic Psychiatrist. I win when there are no insane people alive at any point. I get the list yada yada.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 02:33 GMT
#4038
I have 1 KP.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 02:34 GMT
#4041
Yes I did and I think you know how.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 02:40 GMT
#4044
Don't say that I thought I got the ruby from the guy I killed...
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 02:45 GMT
#4045
In that case you don't know how I used my KP.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 02:49 GMT
#4048
If you think a little you will know how it went down (hint: Foolishness wasn't insane). Anyways I will got to bed now it's late.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 03:09 GMT
#4057
On April 08 2014 12:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:49 justanothertownie wrote:
If you think a little you will know how it went down (hint: Foolishness wasn't insane). Anyways I will got to bed now it's late.

Yeah, not following. Someone else explain if they get it, I'm too lazy to use my brains for anything but winning.

I killed the only guy that was able to spread insanity. You can see it in his role pm. He was also the first on your item list (I think?).
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 03:09 GMT
#4058
Now I am off for real.
justanothertownie
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April 08 2014 14:51 GMT
#4165
On April 08 2014 22:26 Koshi wrote:
Anyway,
JAT claim pretty strange.
JAT around HF pretty strange.
JAT not wanting that I killed syllo pretty strange.

I got some questions for JAT I guess.

1) When did you figure out what gem did.
2) Who gave it to you.
3) Why do you have such an easy wincon?

Didn't read rest of the thread yet but I can answer that.
1) I didn't need to figure it out I knew it as soon as I knew I got it but that was right before I messaged you because hosts forgot to notifiy me earlier.
2) I don't know. If I knew I wouldn't have asked you, would I?
3) It wouldn't have been easy if I hadn't shot Keirathi N1.

My claim is not strange. My behaviour around HF is not strange in the slightest and absolutely genuine. Read that shit - no way HF believed that he and like 10 other people were 3p. I did not want syllo to be shot because I had him as townread early and most important because people like him are horrible shots. You shoot lurky people who don't give you information when you wagon them. At that point syllo did not fit that bill (what if he had been town? yeah, you just shot one of the best townies in the game - grats). Also I changed my mind about him before the whole check thing - why would I do that as scum?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 15:11 GMT
#4167
On April 08 2014 23:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 22:26 Koshi wrote:
Anyway,
JAT claim pretty strange.
JAT around HF pretty strange.
JAT not wanting that I killed syllo pretty strange.

I got some questions for JAT I guess.

1) When did you figure out what gem did.
2) Who gave it to you.
3) Why do you have such an easy wincon?

Didn't read rest of the thread yet but I can answer that.
1) I didn't need to figure it out I knew it as soon as I knew I got it but that was right before I messaged you because hosts forgot to notifiy me earlier.
2) I don't know. If I knew I wouldn't have asked you, would I?
3) It wouldn't have been easy if I hadn't shot Keirathi N1.

My claim is not strange. My behaviour around HF is not strange in the slightest and absolutely genuine. Read that shit - no way HF believed that he and like 10 other people were 3p. I did not want syllo to be shot because I had him as townread early and most important because people like him are horrible shots. You shoot lurky people who don't give you information when you wagon them. At that point syllo did not fit that bill (what if he had been town? yeah, you just shot one of the best townies in the game - grats). Also I changed my mind about him before the whole check thing - why would I do that as scum?


So I'm mafia who still believed they were 3p? :D

I am saying you are mafia or 3rd party who didn't believe so. But I couldn't care less by now - if sandro/town doesn't want to kill you that is their problem.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 15:35 GMT
#4170
On April 08 2014 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 12:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 12:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:49 justanothertownie wrote:
If you think a little you will know how it went down (hint: Foolishness wasn't insane). Anyways I will got to bed now it's late.

Yeah, not following. Someone else explain if they get it, I'm too lazy to use my brains for anything but winning.

I killed the only guy that was able to spread insanity. You can see it in his role pm. He was also the first on your item list (I think?).

Oh Keir. Hmm.
Did you know his role ahead of time? 'Cause if not I'm not sure how you figured that. (Or did you only kill him cause you thought you'd get an item.)

Also didn't answer my question about what the ruby does


I did not know about his role but it wasn't hard to deduce because I knew Sandro, marv and him were the crazy people and that one of those 3 was capable of causing insanity. The other 2 claimed to have been invited in a mysterious qt, so... The ruby was 1 KP that I could fire at day so I did that and since Sandro was the only insane person left I really thought I should have won there but yeah...
On April 08 2014 17:01 sandroba wrote:
Alright so jat had previously claimed to me some type of insane people DT. He told me that there are roles that make people insane and he could check one among the list. The list day 1 was me/marv/kei and keirathi made us insane.
I know for a fact that there is at least one more thing in this game that makes someone insane, an item which I had that I passed along to a townie, so jat definitely needs to die even if he is telling the thruth. Also if that's the case he likely killed keirathi or marv.
The thing that doesn't really add up is why he waited for the very end of the day to try to kill me if he thought he would win instantly after that. Also it seems pretty easy to kill just a small list of people as sk, and pretty convinient when he now claims that the source of insanity is dead. He may very likely be scum trying to pull this off specially after he noticed how we dealt with claimed 3rd party amiko.

I didn't get any notifications as of what happened to me and afaik I didn't have any protection at that exact time. The fact that it was a ruby and the fact some people are selling fire extinguishers combined to that leads me to believe he has probably set me on fire. WoS Please use fire extinguisher on me or give it to me if that's how it works.

Also paper you don't have to do it since a roleblocker died and I believe I have it covered.

@jat are you by any chance a dragon?

re: geript We deal with him after we find out more about VE.

@hopeless you didn't link me QT even though i used it via skype.

I waited until the end of the day as safety measure because I did not know if I could kill you. Turns out that was the right thing to do. Pretty convenient to claim the source is dead? Dude, read Keirathis role pm. It is all in there. I am not lying. If I had not killed him it would not have been easy AT ALL. If you think I can be scum after how I used the ruby while 2 scum were being lynched you are insane irl.
On April 08 2014 19:14 sandroba wrote:
"JAT has a huge filter already I'll look at it more shortly but he had a 30+ page filter in LoL and I don't think he's a great player so I think he would really struggle posting that much as scum."
"Amiko... claimed 3p. Lynch it with fire. Don't care... not town."

Okay so amiko claimed survivor and was pursued by mafia.
Jats however claimed SK, adimitted to killing someone n1 and apparently tried to kill me day 2.

I need to explain to me how on earth what you are saying makes any sense.

Sense, it does not make.
On April 08 2014 19:44 Dandel Ion wrote:
Also if there is an item in the game that can cause insanity like sandrobo said, and somebody has that, he would know that by his role claim

so either he's lying about the role claim or he's lying about the people he has to kill.

No, I would not know that. I get a list of PEOPLE that are insane/capable of spreading insanity. No items.
On April 08 2014 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yeah yeah geript and ve are scum we still lynch jat tomorrow

Jesus dude, use your brain for a moment. If you waste a lynch on me you do mafia the biggest favour you could ever do while gaining NOTHING. If you guys lose because you lynched me I will laugh at you post game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 15:39 GMT
#4171
On April 09 2014 00:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 23:56 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 22:26 Koshi wrote:
Anyway,
JAT claim pretty strange.
JAT around HF pretty strange.
JAT not wanting that I killed syllo pretty strange.

I got some questions for JAT I guess.

1) When did you figure out what gem did.
2) Who gave it to you.
3) Why do you have such an easy wincon?

Didn't read rest of the thread yet but I can answer that.
1) I didn't need to figure it out I knew it as soon as I knew I got it but that was right before I messaged you because hosts forgot to notifiy me earlier.
2) I don't know. If I knew I wouldn't have asked you, would I?
3) It wouldn't have been easy if I hadn't shot Keirathi N1.

My claim is not strange. My behaviour around HF is not strange in the slightest and absolutely genuine. Read that shit - no way HF believed that he and like 10 other people were 3p. I did not want syllo to be shot because I had him as townread early and most important because people like him are horrible shots. You shoot lurky people who don't give you information when you wagon them. At that point syllo did not fit that bill (what if he had been town? yeah, you just shot one of the best townies in the game - grats). Also I changed my mind about him before the whole check thing - why would I do that as scum?


So I'm mafia who still believed they were 3p? :D

I am saying you are mafia or 3rd party who didn't believe so. But I couldn't care less by now - if sandro/town doesn't want to kill you that is their problem.

it's like supersneaky for HF to come back after low activity weekend and think all flips are 3p. It's ridiculous. I can see it actually be true that he thinks GreYmist games are filled with 3p that win with town or win with mafia or w.e. It's not even scummy.

What I don't like about your reaction to his list is that you want to lynch him over something completely irrelevant as the 3p thing (what is scum motivation behind this?) and you completely ignore that his reads are the same as your reads. You admitted that his list was okish, instead of adding your own reads to it (you touched it a bit though) you just go after HF. Strange imo.

Anyway, please kill mafia. You need this to go into lylo if I get your role right. So. I am pretty sure mafia is winning atm and we need to kill like 5 more. Town will misslynch at least once so we just need mafia to die.

HELP THE TOWN CAUSE.

Did I ever vote him? NO. I wanted to lynch HF at a later day because I had my vote on claimed scum at that moment and the other wagon looked promising too. The 3rd party thing is NOT irrelevant. He pulled that out as a defense for not knowing how a town rolepm looked like. It is a scummy overreaction and his story is not believable in the slightest.
I can't help you if you want to lynch me dude.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 15:55 GMT
#4173
On April 09 2014 00:49 Amiko wrote:
I'll just say I don't really understand why scum would claim I am scum to get me killed since it makes something like a 1v1. Maybe syllo was planning to launch himself into space afterward?

JAT do you have to be alive to win if all insane people are dead or can you win even if you are dead too?

He probably planned to nuke an important townie at some point so if he got you lynched first that's a nice bonus. Or you are scum and he tried to give you massive cred. Or he thought you were SK and killed Keirathi so he tried to get rid of you/get towncred with that. Probably the most likely explanation.

It's not specified that I need to be alive for my win con to work but it would greatly surprise me if that was not the case.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 16:03 GMT
#4176
Then you will have to tell me who the scummers are. Apparently nobody besides me thinks it is HF.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 16:09 GMT
#4178
u so bm VE
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 16:19 GMT
#4181
I don't need to apologize for playing towards my win con. He is probably best suited to direct shots though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 16:28 GMT
#4184
No, I claimed what I am. I am not a dragon. Lynching me is retarded. I don't know what happened with the ruby - I was told it was an instant KP. I know nothing of fire.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 16:45 GMT
#4187
On the list I got this night was only one name and that was yours. I don't need to kill anyone else. Yes, in the end I need to go from your perspective but lynching me now over scum is an obvious mistake and you know it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 16:45 GMT
#4188
On April 09 2014 01:45 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 01:25 sandroba wrote:
And btw do you happen to be a dragon?


Why are you looking for a dragon?

Dragon found.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 17:02 GMT
#4196
On April 09 2014 01:46 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 09 2014 01:45 Killing wrote:
On April 09 2014 01:25 sandroba wrote:
And btw do you happen to be a dragon?


Why are you looking for a dragon?

Dragon found.


Quite the opposite my friend but I am interested in your venture

That you of all people don't get a joke is sad.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 20:00 GMT
#4236
On April 09 2014 04:34 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 04:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
There's nothing to process because
a) you're going to sit there and nitpick through everything we've done when there are hard reasons why we've reached the conclusions we have
b) we don't trust you even remotely enough to share sensitive info with you

Like I don't care about any of your "sensitive info." Hell I probably wouldn't even believe you if you did. But there's literally zero reason not to allow me to analyze your "hard conclusions" or whatever. It's like you guys are pissed that I joined a game and actually want to analyze it and play. Like I really don't get that sentiment at all.

I am normally not the person to agree with you but this is totally understandable. This game stopped being fun for me when pms were allowed. Who knows how/why people think they have cleared other people. There is no way for you or me to verify this or think it through for ourselves. You just have to blindly trust that people aren't retarded which is a hard and dangerous thing to do. I wouldn't have approached pms any different as town although in a game with this many roles it is evidently totally broken and townfavoured to be able to pm people.

Apart from that a friendly reminder: Stop painting me as SK people. I am not. My goal is not to wreak havoc and kill as many people as possible/fuck town over yada yada. My goal is to survive longer than sandroba does and if that means I have to cooperate with town then I will do just that while hoping that scum finds a way to kill him (they won't shoot me as long as some retards seriously consider lynching me over them that's for sure). There is no reason for me to play anti town besides the sandroba thing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 20:18 GMT
#4242
On April 09 2014 05:17 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 05:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 09 2014 04:34 geript wrote:
On April 09 2014 04:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
There's nothing to process because
a) you're going to sit there and nitpick through everything we've done when there are hard reasons why we've reached the conclusions we have
b) we don't trust you even remotely enough to share sensitive info with you

Like I don't care about any of your "sensitive info." Hell I probably wouldn't even believe you if you did. But there's literally zero reason not to allow me to analyze your "hard conclusions" or whatever. It's like you guys are pissed that I joined a game and actually want to analyze it and play. Like I really don't get that sentiment at all.

I am normally not the person to agree with you but this is totally understandable. This game stopped being fun for me when pms were allowed. Who knows how/why people think they have cleared other people. There is no way for you or me to verify this or think it through for ourselves. You just have to blindly trust that people aren't retarded which is a hard and dangerous thing to do. I wouldn't have approached pms any different as town although in a game with this many roles it is evidently totally broken and townfavoured to be able to pm people.

Apart from that a friendly reminder: Stop painting me as SK people. I am not. My goal is not to wreak havoc and kill as many people as possible/fuck town over yada yada. My goal is to survive longer than sandroba does and if that means I have to cooperate with town then I will do just that while hoping that scum finds a way to kill him (they won't shoot me as long as some retards seriously consider lynching me over them that's for sure). There is no reason for me to play anti town besides the sandroba thing.

I never believe that people aren't retarded. As a default, I assume that people are stupid.

Then you have a problem here.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 20:43 GMT
#4251
So mean...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 20:45 GMT
#4252
On April 09 2014 05:39 Koshi wrote:
Somewhere I also trust geript tbh. But hmmmmmmmm.
Where are the scummers?


JAT got his orders though.

Pro tip: If you are unsure who the scummers are - try to find them by reading filters etc. and don't only rely on role usage. Don't just be lazy and kill 3p or you deserve to lose.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 21:13 GMT
#4263
On April 09 2014 06:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 09 2014 05:39 Koshi wrote:
Somewhere I also trust geript tbh. But hmmmmmmmm.
Where are the scummers?


JAT got his orders though.

Pro tip: If you are unsure who the scummers are - try to find them by reading filters etc. and don't only rely on role usage. Don't just be lazy and kill 3p or you deserve to lose.

so bitter.

Yes.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 21:14 GMT
#4264
On April 09 2014 06:06 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 09:51 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 04 2014 09:38 sandroba wrote:
I'm town. I'd like some non bullshit reads or insights on syllo, marv and holyflare.


Aren't you the resident syllo expert?

Based on my experience, syllo feels uncomfortable posting actively as mafia. He hasn't been very open with reads so far so I think he looks the worst of the three. Usually I'm convinced he is town a few minutes into the game and that hasn't happened yet.

With marv, I liked his defense of LSB because he seems like an easy target based on his poor filter and he indeed does often look terrible. His post to reads ratio is good enough for me that he seems town for the time being. Eventually I'm going to want to see some stronger reads/follow-up though.

Holy maybe has a cool role? Takes the same view as I do on paper. No strong read yet.

Just to point out. I'm not going to bother filtering Marv right now to see his defense of LSB.

Marv did not defend LSB. He wanted him killed.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 21:24 GMT
#4274
On April 09 2014 06:20 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 06:18 Koshi wrote:
Like somewhere JAT should kill Killing and not geript.

JAT shouldn't be allowed to use his power.

Interesting. Why? And how will you stop me from it?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 21:26 GMT
#4278
If people want me to shoot someone they better give me a clear target before deadline. Preferably sandroba is the one giving that order. And you also better promise not to lynch me if I really do so.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 21:29 GMT
#4285
On April 09 2014 06:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 06:24 geript wrote:
On April 09 2014 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On April 09 2014 06:20 geript wrote:
On April 09 2014 06:18 Koshi wrote:
Like somewhere JAT should kill Killing and not geript.

JAT shouldn't be allowed to use his power.

if it is nk. Why not use on, scummers?

He's not town. There's no reason to expect him to use it in a manner that's in any way favorable to us. He will only and solely use it to further his own purposes. There's zero reason to trust him whatsoever.

Maybe he wants to become an esteemed minion? His wincon is to get to endgame obviously and his targets ded. If he is lynched tomorrow he can't get to endgame.

I also promise to JAT that I will lynch him if he doesn't kill scummer tonight.

Sorry.

Wait wait wait. I have no more information (in fact less) than you do. If I shoot the target I am given then you don't lynch me regardless of what that person flips. Everything else is unfair.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 21:29 GMT
#4287
On April 09 2014 06:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 06:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 09 2014 06:20 geript wrote:
On April 09 2014 06:18 Koshi wrote:
Like somewhere JAT should kill Killing and not geript.

JAT shouldn't be allowed to use his power.

Interesting. Why? And how will you stop me from it?

just watch me lynch you

Don't be an idiot.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 21:30 GMT
#4289
On April 09 2014 06:29 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT,

I could be talked into lynching Sandroba to let you win too. That might be fun. Even though I'm town and think he's town.

A great idea. You are my new hero.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 21:32 GMT
#4292
On April 09 2014 06:30 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 06:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 09 2014 06:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 09 2014 06:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 09 2014 06:20 geript wrote:
On April 09 2014 06:18 Koshi wrote:
Like somewhere JAT should kill Killing and not geript.

JAT shouldn't be allowed to use his power.

Interesting. Why? And how will you stop me from it?

just watch me lynch you

Don't be an idiot.

yes lynching the sk is such bad play, please tell me more about it

i'm sure i can defs believe it if it comes from you

I told you many times by now. But seems like you are unable/unwilling to use your brain on that matter.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 21:32 GMT
#4293
I am not SK and lynching me is not good play as town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 21:34 GMT
#4295
On April 09 2014 06:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
it doesn't matter for shit what you say because you're just gonna say shit to not die, so literally everything you say is useless and shouldn't even be read.

Yes, I would say anything to survive. That doesn't mean it is wrong though. That's what your brain is for, you know, evaluating if it makes sense.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 21:35 GMT
#4296
If you think what I say should not be read you are either mafia or way more stupid than I ever thought.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 21:39 GMT
#4300
On April 09 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 06:35 geript wrote:
Fwiw. I think there's a second experienced scum member based on the kills so far. Pretty odd that Marv/Kita/Keir all died N1 when there's idk like 2 claimed medics?

That was my bad. I was being bitter about heavyweight champ. I should have saved marv cause I had a town read on him, but like, what goes around comes around. Hopefully he's learned his lesson

Based hero - marv needed to die. He was crazy. You did no wrong.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 21:54 GMT
#4304
SANDROBA! Will you promise not to lynch me if I shoot geript?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 22:28 GMT
#4320
On April 09 2014 07:16 sandroba wrote:
@jat just don't shoot anyone, I'm not 100% on either killing or geript. I'm going out to dinner. Pretty awesome shit awaits tomorrow.

As you command.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 22:29 GMT
#4321
On April 09 2014 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 07:12 Killing wrote:
On April 09 2014 07:11 Koshi wrote:
On April 09 2014 06:51 Killing wrote:
On April 09 2014 06:32 austinmcc wrote:
If I have a chest full of stuff, I can't go "I am rich because I have so much stuff in this chest" and also go "I don't know what's in this chest or how much it's worth." I AM ON FIRE WITH MOSTLY TERRIBLE ANALOGIES TO WEIRD SITUATIONS THIS GAME.


If you open up a chest that has a million dollars in it and a weird old book with incantations in a language you don't understand, you can still reach the conclusion that you are rich.

I think the chaos reduction makes my role obviously town but it has little to do with the main portion of my role which I am still yet to wrap my head around. I've done a lot of reading and trying to figure out how it's relevant to the game but I still don't know.


@koshi If you're planning on using town kp on me, you should tell me now so that I can out my role and all the information i've gathered. I have exchanged roles with robik, paperscraps and tehpoofter so if you trust robik and/or paperscraps, you can consult them on my role although I asked them to not tell it to anyone.

No I am not shooting you. JAT might shoot you.


AFAIK that's 3p kp so I can\t really do anything about that. Just making sure town doesn't kill me.

Yeah but he is sworn to town now. I might send a minion to GreYmist to change his wincon to town if he is a good boy. Will need some serious Chaos then though. Who knows who knows?

JAT don't DISAPPOINT!!!!!!!

Can you really do that? DO IT.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 22:31 GMT
#4322
On April 09 2014 07:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 06:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 09 2014 06:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
it doesn't matter for shit what you say because you're just gonna say shit to not die, so literally everything you say is useless and shouldn't even be read.

Yes, I would say anything to survive. That doesn't mean it is wrong though. That's what your brain is for, you know, evaluating if it makes sense.

yeah and my brain evaluates that a player that is a SK and killed townies and tried to kill townies needs to be exterminated asap.

And if you think that's stupid, well then you should probably commit suicide irl.

Because things I did in the past matter how exactly? You should try to win if you are town not hold unreasonable grudges. So much hate...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 22:41 GMT
#4324
You don't take into account that I am not a general anti-town KP. I represent an anti-sandroba KP nothing else. I am NOT a normal SK. But I think discussing this with you is useless because you either don't want to think or you are just mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 22:49 GMT
#4328
You don't reveal shit dandel, sorry.

You don't know if I will only ever shoot townies and lynching me doesn't bring the 1 (!) townie I shot to life again. If you keep arguing like this you should be careful with talking about normal intelligence levels. Just sayin.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 23:16 GMT
#4332
OH NOES!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 23:17 GMT
#4333
On April 09 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:
Jat if you don't shoot lsb i will kill you

Why don't you kill LSB YOURSELF then?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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April 08 2014 23:45 GMT
#4348
On April 09 2014 08:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
wtf greymist.

lol, I forgot this guy was even in the game...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 23:51 GMT
#4351
Maybe I should just shoot oats?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 08 2014 23:59 GMT
#4357
On April 09 2014 08:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 08:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I should just shoot oats?

Sure, shoot super townie oats. Thats great JAT.

I know, I know.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 09 2014 01:39 GMT
#4401
Did the other people guarding the device also get no list back?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 09 2014 01:45 GMT
#4406
On April 09 2014 10:11 austinmcc wrote:

I'm interested in results from box-guarding on N2, maybe we can shake something useful out of that?

Someone seems to have fucked with that...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 09 2014 02:33 GMT
#4441
On April 09 2014 11:29 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 10:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Did the other people guarding the device also get no list back?
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On April 09 2014 11:23 Paperscraps wrote:
Just got home!

I know 3 people who visited the device last night.

Pretty bummed we didn't get to do cell mafia.


Am I one of those people? I didn't get any info back. If I am not than someone did something roleblockey to me. Probably means geript is scum or scum was at least afraid of me (-> Killing). As long as rbing me wasn't in your great town masterplan of course.
justanothertownie
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April 09 2014 03:05 GMT
#4444
Seems like it was geript.
justanothertownie
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April 09 2014 03:10 GMT
#4449
You know what they say about the cake...
justanothertownie
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April 09 2014 17:05 GMT
#4621
On April 09 2014 12:16 geript wrote:
Oh and FYI, if you want to keep playing I wouldn't do anything if I were you tonight.

On April 09 2014 18:20 geript wrote:
If I had my choice, JAT would killer Palmer. 14 pages and nothing good of note. Kill that guy.

I you want me to do anything at all you better explain this. Also I find it hard to believe that you protected anyone AND did whatever you did to me.
justanothertownie
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April 09 2014 18:24 GMT
#4637
I will announce here that in future games I will policy lynch anyone who communicates through a code using out of game information noone else has access to.
In this game I somehow doubt I have the influence to do it.
justanothertownie
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April 09 2014 21:12 GMT
#4661
On April 10 2014 05:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 03:24 justanothertownie wrote:
I will announce here that in future games I will policy lynch anyone who communicates through a code using out of game information noone else has access to.
In this game I somehow doubt I have the influence to do it.

lol in before you start pushing to policy lynch town masons
See how far that gets you.

Also VE I didn't get shit.

You don't see the difference between what you are doing there and the mason role? Whatever, I don't care that much about this game anyways so do what you want. I think that's against the spirit of the game though.
justanothertownie
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April 09 2014 22:03 GMT
#4683
Doesn't matter if he gets it if he is the only person that could possibly get it. If you are including LoL games you played together and similar shit like your favourite champion then there is absolutely ZERO chance that anyone else gets what you are saying.
justanothertownie
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April 09 2014 22:14 GMT
#4688
How am I supposed to google your favorite champion or what one of you did in a game you played together?
justanothertownie
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April 09 2014 22:15 GMT
#4689
@Paper because Sandro told me not to kill anyone and Koshi told me to guard the device. I thought that was a good way to show that I am willing to cooperate.
justanothertownie
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April 09 2014 22:39 GMT
#4703
On April 10 2014 07:19 Paperscraps wrote:
Okay, so you were not at the device. No one has claimed openly to have role blocked you. I am not sure what mafia would gain by role blocking you either. Right now I think you are lying and tried to kill or maybe even succeeded in killing.

You are not reading the thread, sir.
justanothertownie
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April 09 2014 22:42 GMT
#4706
On April 10 2014 07:41 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 07:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 10 2014 07:19 Paperscraps wrote:
Okay, so you were not at the device. No one has claimed openly to have role blocked you. I am not sure what mafia would gain by role blocking you either. Right now I think you are lying and tried to kill or maybe even succeeded in killing.

You are not reading the thread, sir.

Pot meet kettle.

Face meet palm.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 00:36 GMT
#4745
Scum, I am disappoint.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 00:45 GMT
#4756
On April 10 2014 09:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Woah sick shit.
Jat what do you have to say?

Hm?
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 00:53 GMT
#4769
On April 10 2014 09:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
But hes not the semi sk though. He lied.

ahahaha
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 00:54 GMT
#4770
On April 10 2014 09:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
jat lynch best lynch

I tried to guard the device N2 I shot noone N3. I am not the best lynch (for town). I might be the best possible lynch for mafia.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 01:04 GMT
#4773
On April 10 2014 10:02 austinmcc wrote:
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On April 10 2014 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 10 2014 09:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
jat lynch best lynch

I tried to guard the device N2 I shot noone N3. I am not the best lynch (for town). I might be the best possible lynch for mafia.

Does this mean you're claiming to have done absolutely nothing on N3? No role, no device, nada? You just ... sat?

I claim exactly that. I didn't do it only because I am a nice person though - I didn't want to die.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 01:05 GMT
#4774
Hint: Read what geript said/did.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 01:07 GMT
#4777
On April 10 2014 10:07 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 10:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Hint: Read what geript said/did.
Hahahaha. This is worse, although not necessarily scummy.

You've been found guilty of the terrible crime of "believing stuff geript says." I think we can let you off easy this time, so long as you never commit the same offense again.

Well there was nothing useful to do for me anyways.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 01:29 GMT
#4801
On April 10 2014 10:28 Dandel Ion wrote:
lynching ve for that

VE lynch is no JAT lynch.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 01:31 GMT
#4806
On April 10 2014 10:30 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On April 10 2014 10:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 10 2014 10:28 Dandel Ion wrote:
lynching ve for that

VE lynch is no JAT lynch.

kill yourself.

so bm, so bm
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 02:41 GMT
#4890
On April 10 2014 11:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dont know what you are asking. Dont care.
we lynch jat today and va/geript/ve tmr

Keep on doing what you are doing please. I don't even have to defend myself, lol.
Although it is pretty sad that you guys are getting rolled this hard. I will never be able to achieve my wincon this way.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 09:26 GMT
#4969
On April 10 2014 18:16 Palmar wrote:
So how do we tell the bad from the scum. Three people are guilty of serious stupidity, who among them is mafia and who is town?

Geript is adamant about being obnoxious. Between talking in code, calling me mafia for no particular reason, and in general refusing to co-operate with people he knows for a fact are town.

VE checked me. Are you fucking serious? That's the dumbest goddamn check anyone could ever have made. Both my role and my alignment were readibly available in the thread. This is like the easiest check anyone could ever have made.

Oats shot a confirmed townie for no good reason and didn't ask for my permission.

Someone want to fill me in?

You see all this and want to lynch me? I think you can add yourself to the list.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 09:27 GMT
#4970
Oats basically claimed scum and is the only reasonable and right lynch here for town.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 09:28 GMT
#4971
On April 10 2014 17:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 16:35 geript wrote:
He also lied about a lot of shit.

I lied about nothing. I can prove it.

You have been caught lying and can't prove shit buddy.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 09:41 GMT
#4973
Oats isn't even a policy lynch. He is blatantly obvious mafia.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 09:48 GMT
#4976
Koshi, Sandroba and Dandel were/are obviously town even in thread geript, trust me I have no reason to lie. There is nothing to go on for Amiko since he (understandably as survivor) doesn't really play the game. Hopeless, Wave, HF, S&B seem to have been cleared in pm land and I am exactly as in the dark about the reasons for that as you are.
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April 10 2014 09:50 GMT
#4977
On April 10 2014 18:45 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 18:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Oats isn't even a policy lynch. He is blatantly obvious mafia.

Well certain people have called him town all game long...

Then certain people played bad and should feel bad. At least if they did so after day1.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 10:15 GMT
#4979
On April 10 2014 19:06 Palmar wrote:
The problem I have with lynching Oats is that I believe his claim. Don't get me wrong, I want him to die. He lied about his roleclaim to me.

However the whole thing about him figuring out WoS was in orthanc and killing WoS because of that seems overly complicated for Oats to have thought of it on the spot to get an excuse to kill WoS. I don't think scumOats would believe for a second he could get away with it.

There are more things at work here.

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On April 10 2014 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ima fuxkimg wizard!! Sorry palmar I lied about the pgo shit. My actual role is dumbledorf amd j have a 1 shot power that tells me all the night actions that someone takes.
So jat. He killed keir correct. But he also roleblocked foolishness. Now how does he do that as sk? He doesnt. He scum. Also n2 he went to koshi and roleblocked koshi. N3, he went to dandel and roleblocked wave.

scummy scum scum. ##vote jat


If Oats is telling the truth, who do you think JAT is? I wonder who would roleblock someone by putting him in orthanc

So my current suggestion is that we make Oats take poison. JAT has already claimed anti-town afaik (sorry if I'm wrong on this, not really reading the thread). So we need to kill JAT anyway.

If JAT flips what I'm expecting him to flip, we should consider giving Oats antidote. It's important that JAT's flip matches Oats' description of his night actions. If not? We let Oats die. If Oats lies about taking the poison and somehow stays alive, we just lynch him the next day.

Oats, I am expecting you to go along with this plan. I will be so mad if you put your own stupid agenda in front of town again. You're taking the goddamn poison and you will like it. It's a punishment for your blatant stupidity in shooting WoS.

You really should start reading the thread now that pm land is over. WoS alreay said that what oats claims I have done is literally impossible. You can also ask geript - he knows that too. Are you calling them both liars? Do you honestly think I could kill someone N1 AND rb a different person? That I roleblocked people who weren't roleblocked?
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 10:25 GMT
#4983
You are adorable. You said I killed Keir. How many times are you going to change your story? Anyways - I really doubt that anyone believes you here so you are at least right about the waste of time.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 10:35 GMT
#4987
I think oats is just pissed that I don't help his scumteam to be honest.
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April 10 2014 16:19 GMT
#5054
On April 10 2014 20:01 Palmar wrote:
I still think this makes JAT saruman

What exactly makes me saruman? That oats repeatedly lied about what I did? Or that 3 people by now confirmed that I am telling the truth? If I am claiming anti-town (your choice of words - i would rather call it anti-sandroba) then what reason is there for me to lie about the name of my role? Exactly, there is no reason.
On April 10 2014 20:45 Palmar wrote:
I still don't understand why scumOats would claim the kill on WoS.

He didn't have to do anything in the thread right?

Before you have the next great idea regarding who should be lynched try and read the thread. Thanks.
On April 10 2014 23:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Maybe jat has sick dodges.
Why woukd I fakeclaim easily confirmable stuff for no reason??

Best defense ever.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 16:42 GMT
#5057
And you still did it. Grats.
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April 10 2014 17:10 GMT
#5068
On April 11 2014 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Fuck guys just think it through. Ok scumoats is under some pressure, starts out attacking JAT, WOAH SHIT CLAIMS A WHOLE LOTTA SHIT FOR NO FUCKING REASON. Makes sense? Nope.
Now get off me and onto Jat.

LOL, you are really doing your best to get lynched. I respect that - this game went south for everyone not town when the pms were allowed.
justanothertownie
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April 10 2014 17:30 GMT
#5075
As an important member of town I hereby command you to keep checking people.
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April 11 2014 11:38 GMT
#5162
On April 11 2014 11:25 IAmRobik wrote:
I'd lynch Amiko over JAT

On April 11 2014 13:15 geript wrote:
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On April 11 2014 11:25 IAmRobik wrote:
I'd lynch Amiko over JAT

This is a very good point. JAT has shown that he's willing to work with town and has abilities that are useful to us. If the second leader does get lynched Amiko is a more preferential lynch that JAT IMO.

<3
We can still win together - it is not impossible. Just sayin.
There might even be a situation where it would be benefitial for town to let me win. I will elaborate on that should we get that far. And no it doesn't require me to do anything anti town before.
On April 11 2014 19:51 Palmar wrote:
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On April 11 2014 18:58 geript wrote:
On April 11 2014 18:54 Palmar wrote:
I want JAT to be second, that's all that matters.

If there are specific reasons why you think he's scum instead of Amiko I'd love to hear them. Voting patterns seem to indicate Amiko as more likely to be scum but I honestly haven't read a word in JAT's filter.

He claimed scum.

or 3p.

I don't really care. He's not town, and I don't think Oats is unlynchable anyway. If Oats somehow is, we at least kill anti-town.

Why the hell do you hate me that much? No, I definitely did not claim scum. My play makes NO SENSE AT ALL as scum. If oats is really unlynchable I will gladly shoot him if town wants me too. I won't do it if you put me in second place though. Why are you so lazy, Palmar? You aren't reading the thread. You don't care about finding scum and rather lynch me... Why? It is pretty certain you are town but your pm deeds shouldn't excuse you guys from playing the game. If you don't think that oats is the last scum I should definitely not be the second wagon.
justanothertownie
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April 11 2014 11:39 GMT
#5163
I gave up on winning on my own quite a while ago btw. as is obvious by the way I acted the last days/nights.
justanothertownie
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April 11 2014 11:46 GMT
#5164
On April 11 2014 20:20 geript wrote:
He has a lot of odd flip flops on LSB, IamP and syllogism. Even if Oats is scum and 1 of JAT/Amiko is scum I still think there's at least a sixth. Idk, maybe all the 3P claims are com scum and there's 7 who knows.

Talking about me here? I did not flip flop on LSB ever. I even pushed for his lynch. I flipped my opinion on the other 2 that is correct. I didn't want to lynch them day1 (like marv btw.) and changed my opinion afterwards. In Syllos case even before the redcheck came out.
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April 12 2014 19:00 GMT
#5351
On April 12 2014 02:39 Amiko wrote:
You and kita both also claimed to be immune to nightkills. That's also why I figured you both must be 3p/scum - why claim you are immune if you could soak bullets instead?
I mean, I guess the obvious answer (given kita's flip) is to avoid getting shot at night.

On April 12 2014 03:40 Amiko wrote:
My role feels pretty boring. I mean the random item swap might be interesting but sort of mean. Maybe I would end up with some powerful item? But like I said, even if I got some item, I am dis-incentivized to use it.

I really don't know what syllo was trying to do. I feel like as scum he should have wanted to ally with me, not try to paint me as scum. If I get lynched I flip 3p without any kp, so it just makes him look bad. I guess maybe he could have used this argument to say he must not be scum because why would he lie, and someone else must have also visited whoever it was he claimed, but eh.
It is possible someone has a win condition of killing me (since that kind of role seems popular in this game). I guess he could have been trying to keep the lynch off someone else that day?

If you want I can try to visit you and steal an item to feel more confirmed :3c I'd be willing to give it back afterward.
If I get roleblocked by scum, then whatever, it would uses up a roleblock to prevent nothing important.

On April 12 2014 09:59 Amiko wrote:
30 secs
moving to JAT

Does this really look like survivor play to ANYONE? He tries to get information about the people who cannot be nightkilled, he has a pretty unbelievable role and he is the only one fast enough to start a switch onto me? Smells like he KNEW oats would not be lynched. If he was a survivor why would he care about securing a lynch on me that late in the day?
On April 12 2014 03:02 strongandbig wrote:
here's one thing, as long as jat is alive and trying to kill sandroba, we have to keep roleblocking him every night. i'd take a scum lynch first, but that in itself is a good enough reason to have jat be the backup lynch if oats is actually lynchproof.

On April 12 2014 10:16 IAmRobik wrote:
Someone shoot that scumbag

I can do that if you don't rb me. No, I won't shoot Sandro because you guys made it pretty clear that he won't be killed and I believe you.
On April 12 2014 14:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oooo I got a gun.
who should I shoot guys?

ahahaha. Inb4 he "proves" his townieness by shooting a townie/3p tonight. lol
On April 13 2014 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dude no flips tonight and changed rad counter.
I only have 2 1 shots.
RIGHT GUYS?

Yes, but how would we know that it wasn't one of your teammates who did the janitor thing? Ridiculous.
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 19:03 GMT
#5353
On April 13 2014 03:56 austinmcc wrote:
geript, question.

If scum has a "target player can't be lynched this cycle" mechanic on someone, why do they wait until now to use it? Could stick it on syllo or iamp earlier, possibly save a power of theirs and also keep a KP maybe, depending on numbers. Could stick it on Gumshoe D1, give no flip information, and PROBABLY have gumshoe be the lynch D2. Save it for a townie on a critical day coming up, no lynch, another set of NKs, and we PROBABLY lynch that dude the next day.

Do you think, if you actually work through it, that a buddy/partner/forbidden lover/supplicant/trusted librarian of Oats's would use that power on Oats? ESPECIALLY if snb's bit is legit and he just has one-shot abilities.

If scum used that on a townie oats... Why did oats say he could not be lynched?
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 19:08 GMT
#5356
Dandel, I don't know how many times I told you that already but I am not a Serial Killer. I am an Assassin with multiple targets (at the start). It is perfectly possible that I and town both win if Sandroba dies. I see your concern with my KP though if you are a Survivor.
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 19:09 GMT
#5357
On April 13 2014 04:06 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 13 2014 03:56 austinmcc wrote:
geript, question.

If scum has a "target player can't be lynched this cycle" mechanic on someone, why do they wait until now to use it? Could stick it on syllo or iamp earlier, possibly save a power of theirs and also keep a KP maybe, depending on numbers. Could stick it on Gumshoe D1, give no flip information, and PROBABLY have gumshoe be the lynch D2. Save it for a townie on a critical day coming up, no lynch, another set of NKs, and we PROBABLY lynch that dude the next day.

Do you think, if you actually work through it, that a buddy/partner/forbidden lover/supplicant/trusted librarian of Oats's would use that power on Oats? ESPECIALLY if snb's bit is legit and he just has one-shot abilities.

If scum used that on a townie oats... Why did oats say he could not be lynched?
You hear the ABBA, but you clearly do not read with the blue eyes of the swedes.

I'm not suggesting oats is townie or town. I'm trying to understand what geript is thinking when he posts these:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 10:47 geript wrote:
I've played 1 GM game before but could people confirm or deny that GM usually only allows players to do one thing per phase. I really think Oats partner did the unlynchable ish thing.
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 10:55 geript wrote:
Austin. I don't really get your point. Like I feel it's pretty obvious IMO that Oats is mafia and his teammate saved him. I remember Wave was 3P with VE maybe in chrono 2 and the could res each other I think, but normally players can't take more than one action per phase and iirc GM tends to follow that rule. So Oats teammate had to have saved him. I don't get how you don't see what I'm saying and how you don't come to this conclusion too.


Ok, my bad.
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 19:20 GMT
#5360
On April 13 2014 04:19 austinmcc wrote:
DI, i got...nothing in particular to ask about that. I generally believe it, just because you weren't looking scummy and apparently have been doing some townie stuff.

My only real question I guess is that you seem concerned with JAT throughout your filter, but not with Amiko much. I can understand "makes sense that there could be another survivor", but ... you didn't question his claim at all because of that? Or question just general play / claimed item abilities / comment about not being sure about committing himself to ABBA.

My guess would be that another survivor is no problem for him. Someone with KP IS a problem for a survivor.
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 19:25 GMT
#5362
No, I don't. If town keeps roleblocking me there is nothing I can do about oats. Also, if oats is alive tomorrow he is the one that dies.
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 19:26 GMT
#5363
I am pretty certain his lynch avoiding ability was one-shot and if you lynch me over confirmed scum oats then I don't want to live on the same planet as you anymore.
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 19:28 GMT
#5365
I want to kill exactly 1 more townie. Not 1-2. This and that I killed Keir does not make me scum in any way. Also lynching me does not magically revive Keirathi.
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 19:33 GMT
#5373
I just want to state one thing here. I think you guys are smart enough to figure this out yourself but: If I die tonight and the janitor role is used then don't assume that I was scum please. Whoever claims a shot on me is not confirmed town or even townie in any way because of that.
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 21:04 GMT
#5400
On April 13 2014 05:59 Palmar wrote:
So boring that you can't lynch people.

Like this game is pointless to play for about a week while we try to kill the claimed 3p people (amiko/oats/jat).

I'll be afk and voting.

If scum should somehow magically win this game then this is the reason why.
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 21:09 GMT
#5402
On April 13 2014 06:06 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 06:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 13 2014 05:59 Palmar wrote:
So boring that you can't lynch people.

Like this game is pointless to play for about a week while we try to kill the claimed 3p people (amiko/oats/jat).

I'll be afk and voting.

If scum should somehow magically win this game then this is the reason why.

Fuck off, killing non-town is always the correct play and if it isn't the game is dumb and I don't care.

Point proven.
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 23:19 GMT
#5437
On April 13 2014 08:16 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
you can chalk up my inactivity to me basically rolling VT, sorry but I didn't plan on playing a weird game like this just to be a VT. I found a few scum and now I'm just bored while we finish out this game. Thats the plain and simple of it. If something interesting happens and my input is needed then fine.


Don't forget GM has roles sometimes where people become interesting after some event (like Bruce Wayne, who became batman after his parents died)

Anyways, this is the first vt claim, right? So I like it.

He claimed he is "basically a VT" because his role is so anti town. That's at least how I understand it.
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 23:56 GMT
#5450
On April 13 2014 08:55 strongandbig wrote:
Alright I'm staying locked on target.

Wait wait wait. You are rbing me right? Not redirecting onto you? Because that would be bad.
justanothertownie
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April 12 2014 23:59 GMT
#5452
Shooting oats (at least trying to).
justanothertownie
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April 13 2014 01:07 GMT
#5460
So boring to be rbed all the time...
justanothertownie
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April 13 2014 01:27 GMT
#5465
So scum tried to shoot you. Hm.
justanothertownie
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April 13 2014 01:27 GMT
#5467
Someone did or oats got protected.
justanothertownie
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April 13 2014 01:31 GMT
#5472
I did target oats.
justanothertownie
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April 13 2014 01:36 GMT
#5475
Well, obviously I think I can maybe complete my wincon by helping town. Seems like the only way to me.
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April 13 2014 17:14 GMT
#5504
On April 13 2014 16:51 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 13:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
I didnt shoot anyone and my gun disappered. Why guys, why.
we should totally be lynching jat not me

I agree. We should be lynching JAT instead of you. We should be shooting you in the face.

Ok, guys let me summarize what's going on here.
Last dayphase oats comes in with this ridiculous accusation against me. It was probably intentionally unbelievable because he could not get lynched. Geript instantly defends me even before oats shoots WoS but he waits until it is absolutely sure that oats is getting lynched before he makes a completely rehashed case against him. He is absolutely sure that oats is the right lynch.
-> Oats doesn't get lynched.
Geript threatens me to shoot oats or get killed the day after. I shoot oats.
-> Nothing happens.
It is day again and now that oats is probably lynchable geript SUDDENLY DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT. Yeah, sure lynch me over the confirmed scum.
I think geript has too much information and not wanting to lynch oats here is really scummy. There are either 3 or 4 scum left according to the KP and if there are 3 then he gains a dead townie by letting oats be shot instead of lynching him.
Also funny: If town doesn't magically have a KP left oats can't be shot if you lynch me.

Lynch oats today and geript after him. With fire.
justanothertownie
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April 13 2014 17:30 GMT
#5505
It is also sad that scum keeps shooting the people who want to cooperate with me.
justanothertownie
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April 13 2014 17:44 GMT
#5507
He said S&B afaik.
justanothertownie
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April 13 2014 18:34 GMT
#5513
On April 14 2014 03:24 strongandbig wrote:
Come on guys we can't let the thread die like this.

The game is not solved! Our confirmed townies are dropping like flies and we still don't know for sure who the scum are.

So here's something to talk about.

Postulate: if scum could, they would have used the prince of darkness power on day 2. Either to cancel the pms, or to cancel the double lynch. The fact that they didnt suggests two things to me.

One: the chaos counter was not high enough. We have seen this game that strong town powers have changed the chaos (eg blazinghand), and it's reasonable to expect the same of strong scum powers.
Two: the scum player with that power was not present on day 2 to use it.

So I think it could have come either from djodref/geript or killing. Killing's power triggered something on lsb, and reduced the chaos counter; the day phase ended right after lsb died. On the other hand, djodref was not in the thread on the pm day, and the prince of darkness power was used immediately after geript joined the game.

So we need to be talking about those players (plus VE, who put a green check on djodref) IMO and not just waiting for oatsmaster to die.

I would talk to you but somehow I doubt that will help because there are so many lazy/stupid townies in this game who don't even read what I contribute and would rather lynch me then scum anyways.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 12:46 GMT
#5535
On April 14 2014 21:37 Palmar wrote:
Like I just think there's too much anti-town for town to possibly win this.

Oats is claimed 3rd party and thus can't be town and has to be lynched.
Jat is claimed 3rd party and thus can't be town and has to be lynched.
Amiko is claimed 3rd party and thus can't be town and has to be lynched.
VE checked me, then didn't send a check, and checked one of the people whose role he already knew initially. He has literally the worst check history I've ever seen from a cop. ever. So he needs to be lynched too.

And then we can start finding mafia.

I think we'll all be dead before that.

You forgot claimed 3p dandel, sir.
Also, if you think killing claimed 3rd party is more important and should be done before finding scum you are just wrong.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 12:46 GMT
#5536
On April 14 2014 21:46 sandroba wrote:
@palmar yeah Im starting to feel that way too. I dont know if we can afford to lynch jat or amiko. We definetely need to start shooting people at night too.

@austin can you still shoot people?

@jat If you kill me do you leave the game?

Yes, I do.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 14:03 GMT
#5546
On April 14 2014 23:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yo sandro you wanna die?

Yes, yes he wants. Clearly.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 14:06 GMT
#5548
That's why I am talking in 3rd person, silly.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 14:43 GMT
#5553
S&B too towny. I think my opinion probably doesn't interest you that much but I really can't see a world in which oats is not scum.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 14:44 GMT
#5554
I am the last one to doubt your VE read btw.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 14:53 GMT
#5557
The problem with that is that killing me doesn't prove ANYTHING.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 15:14 GMT
#5561
Palmar clearly town MVP. Amiko, afaik S&B claimed the vote thing.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 17:24 GMT
#5574
Just look at what oats voted. Confirmed scum.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 17:32 GMT
#5578
On April 15 2014 00:44 Palmar wrote:
All third parties.

Claim exactly your role, and your exact win condition.

I don't care if you've done it before, I'm not looking it up.

Role: Ironically Sociopathic Psychiatrist
At the start of every night I get a list of all insane people in the game and the number of people capable of causing insanity. I have 1 KP each night.
Win condition: I win when there are no insane people left at any point and am removed from the game if that is the case.

The only insane person in this game is Sandroba. There is noone left that is able to cause insanity since Keirathi is dead.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 18:29 GMT
#5590
On April 15 2014 03:05 austinmcc wrote:
JAT, did you shoot last night?

Yes.
On April 15 2014 03:14 austinmcc wrote:
Grrrrr. I want to try and figure out the mayoral lynch vs alignment check, but it depends on how many scum and how many 3Ps we have, neither of which we know.

I don't see that it's crazy clear-cut for mayoral lynch, in some ways getting 100% of someone's role would be nice, it delays a lynch 1 day but it lets us not mislynch if we're wrong on someone. But we probably use it to check a 3P claim? And that's not a great use of a day, even if scum is down to 1 NK after today's lynch.

Well, I wouldn't mind if you confirm me but tbh a lynch is probably better for town. There already is no way that I am scum unless you think there are at least 5 mafia left.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 18:35 GMT
#5592
What kind of question is that? Sure, I promise.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 18:36 GMT
#5593
I did not say you should lynch ME if that's what you understood there.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 18:38 GMT
#5595
I shot oats. Don't ask me why he is still alive.
justanothertownie
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April 14 2014 19:27 GMT
#5601
On April 15 2014 04:23 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 03:42 austinmcc wrote:
At some point we're bumping up against a bunch of scummy crap that we don't know a source of though.

That brings us to:

Prince of Darkness
Blazinghand unrevived
Oats being unlynchable (still think this will be on oats when he flips)
Protect on oats last night

Along with assorted small counter movements that we can't account for as of yet.

the blazinghand unrevived thing is especially annoying because he should've been untargetable. don't forget lsb's mystery post-death anything power though.

i still think prince of darkness is like 99% either geript or killing

I don't think they had to target BH to undo his revival.
justanothertownie
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April 15 2014 00:44 GMT
#5635
lol
"it's been hard enough to get votes on oats"
just lol
justanothertownie
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April 15 2014 01:04 GMT
#5639
This explains that I wasn't able to shoot that joker...
justanothertownie
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April 15 2014 01:10 GMT
#5641
Look at his powers.
justanothertownie
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April 15 2014 02:05 GMT
#5648
On April 15 2014 10:59 Killing wrote:
THE DREAM IS REAL

Hm?
justanothertownie
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April 15 2014 02:16 GMT
#5651
Odd reaction to a wasted lynch. Whatever.
justanothertownie
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April 15 2014 11:27 GMT
#5675
On April 15 2014 12:07 Paperscraps wrote:
Also tomorrow the lynch should be JAT I am thinking.

The red and the green part don't go too well together.

SANDRO, any orders? If I don't hear anything from you before I have to leave tonight I won't shoot.
justanothertownie
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April 15 2014 17:03 GMT
#5686
On April 15 2014 20:43 Palmar wrote:
Shoot amiko Jat.

Fine.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 08:39 GMT
#5748
Stop being retarded guys. So the situation is the following:

There were 3 nightkills. I shot Amiko.
This means one of 3 things happened.

1) Amiko used his vest or got protected if he is scum (I personally believe his claim because the post directed at me in the night felt very genuine) and scum pulled out 3 nightkills somehow. Unlikely.
2) A townie shot. Unlikely.
3) My shot got bussed to one of the 3 nightkills. Probably the most likely explanation.

Important:

- If I really intended to shoot town I would 100% shoot Paperscraps. No questions asked. It was clear that he was some sort of medic - why the hell would I shoot anyone else. This way he can just protect sandro.

- The nightkills (if no townie shot) basically confirm that I am NOT SCUM. If scum had 3 KP that would mean there are at least 5 of them left. You don't really believe that, do you?

- The nightkills also confirm that there are probably 3 scum left. If town wants to win this game you need to lynch scum today. This will reduce their KP which is way more important than getting rid of my KP because:
1) I am not shooting town. It seems like town is on the losing end atm and I have no interest in the game ending soon since Sandroba has to die before that happens.
2) Even if I was trying to shoot town I could aswell miss and hit mafia because I don't know who is who. Scum do.
3) Scum will probably have to shoot me at some point.

Since finding one of 3 scum in the current situations seems pretty doable the mayor should ABSOLUTELY be lynching one of them. VE for example is almost a guaranteed hit. No way he lives this long with the role he claimed.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 08:46 GMT
#5749
On April 16 2014 10:40 strongandbig wrote:
i counterpropose we put sandroba as top and me as second

On April 16 2014 10:45 strongandbig wrote:
and then i kill ve

This is very reasonable.
On April 16 2014 11:02 sandroba wrote:
Basically it comes down to this:

sandroba
snb
paperscraps
killing

geript?
vayne?
amiko?

ve
jat


Now here is the deal. jat pretty much has to be sk at this point, reason being I held the ring for a lot of nights and he never took a shot on me. Also he went ahead and shot into town tonight, I think it's a safe assumption. The reason for him acting now is probably town being constrained on lynches and not able to act. Also amiko may very well be mafia, not doing what he was suposed to do to prevent town from getting back the res item. VE pretty much has to be mafia, not producing a single useful check in 5 nights he has had to act and being a complete non presence in the entire game.
I agree that we make me and snb both top positions. Now on priorities of who we should kill, definitely jat first since we need to reduce the kp urgently.

There is so much wrong with this post...
First of all I was roleblocked most of the nights (proven). Also I knew you had protective items it's not like you guys made a secret out of that. When WoS flipped I basically knew you have the ring. So,if I shot you I would not only not be able to kill you but also be lynched the next day.
Look at how I claimed. Do you seriously think this makes sense as an SK? To out myself for literally no reason? And also do you really think scum Amiko makes a post like he did last night? I somehow doubt that.
You also say "VE pretty much has to be mafia". FINE. If that is the case you lynch him and reduce KP this way. Like, this is not even a debate.

What a shocking and utterly horrible post of you.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 08:51 GMT
#5750
On April 16 2014 11:07 Paperscraps wrote:

Palmar thinks VE is likely town. I tend to agree somewhat at this point.

We have two 3p claims left on Amiko and JAT. JAT is the scummier of the two imo.


You should probably explain this bolded nonsense at some point.
On April 16 2014 14:44 geript wrote:
Looking at Dandel's role I think the kill should be JAT today. I 100% will not pull she nannies no matter how much I may want to kill Sandroba or Killing. I really doubt there are 3 3P roles in this game. This is why I should be the second highest vote getter. Austin trusted S&B who I'm town but not super town on. I also like Paperscraps. I think myself, S&B and Daniel are the only 3 people anyone should be voting for.

What makes you think that? Why can't there be 3 3P roles in a game like this? You just say that like it should be common knowledge.
There is literally now way I am scum. If I was then town already lost this game because that means there are 5 mafia left.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 08:55 GMT
#5751
EBWOP: *no way
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 09:39 GMT
#5752
Let me show you guys what happens if you lynch me:

Right now the situation is probably: 4 town, 3 scum, 2 3P

You lynch me -> 4:3:1

Scum gets 2 nightkills -> 2:3:1 Amiko wins with scum - town lost, gg.

Does anyone still think lynching me is a good idea? Well congrats - you are scum then.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 09:43 GMT
#5753
If Amiko is scum it is still 3:3 the next day. Same result.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 12:44 GMT
#5755
Why would I?
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 15:35 GMT
#5761
On April 16 2014 23:27 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 18:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Let me show you guys what happens if you lynch me:

Right now the situation is probably: 4 town, 3 scum, 2 3P

You lynch me -> 4:3:1

Scum gets 2 nightkills -> 2:3:1 Amiko wins with scum - town lost, gg.

Does anyone still think lynching me is a good idea? Well congrats - you are scum then.

4:3:2 unlikely. 7 scum starting? You pretty clearly have killed someone last night. Probably random kp from either side still out. I'm guessing we may have something as simple as 6:1:1.

Unless you have a better explanation of how many kills there were last night you should expect there to be 3 left. 6:1:1 is actually impossible since they had 2 KP before and it would mean that even if I had killed one of the 3 people 1 mafia would have killed 2 persons which I don't think is possible.
How is it that hard to understand? If there are 3 left which is likely then you instantly lose if you lynch me so if you really plan on lynching me you are either retarded or scum. 7 scum starting doesn't seem impossible to me. People suggested 9 earlier, there were 8 in another Greymist game.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 15:44 GMT
#5762
Like, I can't put it any simpler:
There were 3 kills. Even if you assume that I am responsible for one of them that leaves 2 for the mafia (like they had the nights before). The easiest explanation is therefore that there are still 3 scum left. Unless someone wants to claim one of the shots.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 16:46 GMT
#5764
You don't say!
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 16:52 GMT
#5766
Oh, okay then.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 16:59 GMT
#5768
On April 17 2014 01:57 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 00:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, I can't put it any simpler:
There were 3 kills. Even if you assume that I am responsible for one of them that leaves 2 for the mafia (like they had the nights before). The easiest explanation is therefore that there are still 3 scum left. Unless someone wants to claim one of the shots.

Why can't 1 be from town?

Because town would have claimed that by now don't you think? Also why would a townie shoot one of those people?
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 17:01 GMT
#5769
A sane townie would have shot VE, VA, Killing or you - maybe even me. Never those people though.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 17:12 GMT
#5772
Are you dense? EVEN IF I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE OF THE NIGHTKILLS YOU LOSE IF YOU LYNCH ME. Jesus. Also, you are lying or misremembering. The night you roleblocked me 2 people died. The night S&B rbed me noone did.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 17:13 GMT
#5773
EBWOP: That was directed at geript.
@VE: I didn't shoot you because town didn't tell me to. I did what I was told.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 17:18 GMT
#5775
And the fact that there were no nightkills at all when mafia had at the very least 2 KP then doesn't bother you? I think the reason for that could be the prince of darkness power.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 17:21 GMT
#5777
What the hell are you even trying to achieve here? Either I am right and you straight up lose if you lynch me (and the evidence suggests that I am right) or you are right and lynch me why exactly? I don't want this game to end so why would I shoot townies.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 17:22 GMT
#5778
I got no items.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 17:26 GMT
#5781
On April 17 2014 02:22 geript wrote:
I have no clue what caused the no NKs. Nor am I going to bother trying to imagine scenarios which created it. Could be 2 saves. Could be reduced KP and a save. Could be anything. The point specifically is that it doesn't matter because it doesn't help actually find scum. Right now, everyone shoudl full roleclaim. There's few enough people in the game that it doesn't matter.

Then what are you babbling about? If you have no idea then don't paint me guilty.
I already fully roleclaimed so do what you want in that regard.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 18:28 GMT
#5784
This is getting ridiculous geript.

1) Calling me scum is basically admitting that you haven't read the thread or my filter once.
2) It seems like you are just doing everything to get me lynched/you change your reasoning for doing so all the time. You aren't reevaluating, you are frantically looking for different reasons to lynch me.
3) If I was scum that would mean there are 5 (!) scum left and town has already lost.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 20:00 GMT
#5791
On April 17 2014 03:42 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 03:28 justanothertownie wrote:
This is getting ridiculous geript.

1) Calling me scum is basically admitting that you haven't read the thread or my filter once.
2) It seems like you are just doing everything to get me lynched/you change your reasoning for doing so all the time. You aren't reevaluating, you are frantically looking for different reasons to lynch me.
3) If I was scum that would mean there are 5 (!) scum left and town has already lost.

1) No. I haven't read your filter. I don't need to. You have somehow failed to kill anyone that you've been asked/told to kill. N2 I roleblocked you... hmmm ok. N3 S&B roleblocked you... hmmm ok. N4 you supposedly kill oats who is immune still. N5 you did nothing? That's bullshit. Last night you killed someone; likely Dandel because he wanted to kill you. If you killed Palmer or Austin then you definitely didn't have permission to kill them. The thing is you've either been lying about being roleblocked or lying about who you've been killing. I find the latter far more likely. So because you're playing anti-town, then you're most likely scum. It's possible that you're not, but unlikely.
2) No, my reasoning expands as time goes on. You've been 100% worthless. I 100% think you're lying about not attacking last night. The deaths don't add up. I thought you were lying about Oats RB'ing you, apparently he was just immune; plus your role claim (3P survivor that requires to kill insane people) makes 0 sense. Like that's a super odd, hard to believe role especially when your KP has only targeted town aligned players.
3) WTF? Are you honestly trying to spout this shit? No, 1 KP was from you. I didn't RB you, afaik no one else has claimed an RB on you. There were 3 deaths when there have reasonably consistently been two for a while now. So no, there aren't 5 scum. At most, there are 3 scum. Quite frankly, we're at the point in the game where the people who we've slowly been putting of, need to be lynched. You're not town and you're not helping so we kill you. It's that simple.

Ok, it is decided. This guy can't be town. Even geript can't be this misguided.
It is possibly LYLO. YES, YOU DO HAVE TO READ THE FILTER OF THE PERSON YOU WANT TO LYNCH AS TOWN. I dare anyone to look at how I claimed and tell me with a straigth face that this makes any sense whatsoever as scum.
I failed to kill who I was supposed to kill? Let's see about that:
I got rbed 2 times. That you are even questioning this is ridiculous because it was you and S&B who rbed me. Are you calling S&B a liar? Also town did not tell me to shoot anyone those nights.
I shot oats once but couldn't kill him (confirmed possible by his role pm). Why wasn't there another kill if that is not the truth? My story makes absolute sense here.
I was told to shoot Amiko and failed. This time I have no explanation for it - I just don't know what happened there but the other nightkills make no sense for me.
I never claimed to be a survivor. Geript doesn't even know what I claimed but he still "100% knows that I am lying". Yeah, sure.
He even admits that "at most there are 3 scum". If I am 3P that means LYLO. If I am scum nothing makes any sense. For example that there were only 2 nightkills the night before the last one.

This guy has an agenda and that is preventing a scumlynch. By going for a lynch on me he is defending his buddys by proxy. lol, he even calls Killing scummier than VE. He doesn't reevaluate things. He doesn't care that the nightkills point towards LYLO and isn't even interested in entertaining this thought because if he mislynches me here his scumteam wins.
Geript is either displaying the most horrendous and blinded townplay imaginable or he is just simply scum.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 20:02 GMT
#5792
On April 17 2014 04:42 sandroba wrote:
To be honest I have you as townie geript, but I'm just afraid that you might be a hero mafia that is putting in a lot of effort. That's mainly because of the LSB shennanies and now you are somehow trying to sell me as mafia. If you can guarantee jat is roleblocked tonight then I'm okay killing VE instead.
The whole deal about jat is the following:
He is either telling the truth, in which case he didnt try to kill me on the couple nights he wasnt rbed and amiko is lying to us about his ability. In that case if jat manages to kill me tonight we possibly lose 2 townies plus jat leaves the game which means tomorrow is lylo is VE isnt the last scum.
If he is lying and VE isnt the last scum, we can possibly lose 2 townies and town is put into kingmaker position tomorrow chosing between who wins amongst sk or mafia.
What I'm saying is that if jat can't be rbed we need to kill him today.
As for explaining my reads I wont bother as those are pretty self explanatory if you look at the events of the game. The only one I could possibly be wrong about is killing, but he's kept his story straight and I trust the meta read from paper.
So bottom line is if you can rb jat we kill ve, otherwise we kill jat.

I already told you why I can't be SK. And even if I was that would be all the more reason for town to let me live because a SK would need to shoot scum right now.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 20:28 GMT
#5793
On April 17 2014 03:44 geript wrote:
Plus JAT is confirmed bullshitting around. JAT is the obvkill here just like Oats was before.

You are so full of shit. Confirmed bullshitting around? I see no prove for this statement anywhere. Oats was an obvkill because he basically claimed scum. You can't even compare that to what you are bringing up against me. I mean of course you can but it only shows that you aren't arguing reasonable and are scum.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 20:49 GMT
#5795
There is no reason to assume there can't be 3 3P in a game like this. Literally 0 reason. It is also IMPOSSIBLE that there were only 5 scum based on the nightkills alone. 5 scum would also be heavily imbalanced and town favoured for this kind of game.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 20:51 GMT
#5796
Geript is calling me the last scum with 3 KP last night. Logic much?
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 20:53 GMT
#5797
Ok, I take back the last post that was in case I was 3P. Still even if I am 3P 5 scum are impossible by nightkills alone.
justanothertownie
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April 16 2014 21:42 GMT
#5801
On April 17 2014 06:31 geript wrote:
Color Coding:
Confirmed Town
Confirmed Scum
Confirmed non-Town
+ Show Spoiler [Vote Counts] +

On April 03 2014 09:09 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 0

On April 04 2014 01:35 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 16.5

IAmRobik (0): Palmar
LSB (1): VisceraEyes
yamato77 (1): Holyflare
austinmcc (1): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
Balla24 (3): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar

Not voting (23): IAmRobik, LSB, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 04 2014 05:56 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 21

IAmRobik (0): Palmar
LSB (1): VisceraEyes
yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB
austinmcc (0): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
Balla24 (2): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar
marvellosity (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet

Not voting (22): IAmRobik, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 04 2014 17:54 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 34

IAmRobik (0): Palmar
iamperfection (1): Foolishness
Holyflare (4): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (2): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko
yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB
kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (2): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
gumshoe (0): kitaman27
Dandel Ion (1): kitaman27
Blazinghand (2): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (2): [s]Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Tehpoofter, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 04 2014 23:27 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 39.5

IAmRobik (0): Palmar, Tehpoofter
iamperfection (2): Foolishness, kitaman27
Holyflare (3): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (7): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection
yamato77 (1): Holyflare, LSB
kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
gumshoe (0): kitaman27
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
Blazinghand (1): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (1): Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 05 2014 06:02 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 46


IAmRobik (0): Palmar, Tehpoofter
iamperfection (2): Foolishness, kitaman27, Paperscraps
Holyflare (2): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (13): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, justanothertownie, LSB, VisceraEyes, Koshi, strongandbig
Amiko (1): kitaman27
yamato77 (0): Holyflare, LSB
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (0): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
gumshoe (0): kitaman27, syllogism
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
Blazinghand (1): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (0): Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (9): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Killing, Djodref, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 05 2014 08:15 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 48.25

IAmRobik (0): Palmar, Tehpoofter
iamperfection (1): Foolishness, kitaman27, Paperscraps
Holyflare (0): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (12): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, justanothertownie, LSB, VisceraEyes, Koshi, strongandbig, Hopeless1der, kitaman27, kitaman27
Amiko (3): kitaman27, Paperscraps, Killing, IAmRobik
yamato77 (0): Holyflare, LSB
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (0): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
gumshoe (6): kitaman27, syllogism, sandroba, marvellosity, strongandbig, yamato77, justanothertownie, Dandel Ion
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
Blazinghand (1): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (0): Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (5): austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 05 2014 09:48 Acrofales wrote: Hour 49.75

IAmRobik (0): Palmar, Tehpoofter
iamperfection (1): Foolishness, kitaman27, Paperscraps
Holyflare (0): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, justanothertownie, LSB, VisceraEyes, Koshi, strongandbig, Hopeless1der, kitaman27, kitaman27, VayneAuthority
Amiko (1): kitaman27, Paperscraps, Killing, IAmRobik, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Keirathi
yamato77 (0): Holyflare, LSB
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster, gumshoe
gumshoe (16): kitaman27, syllogism, sandroba, marvellosity, strongandbig, yamato77, justanothertownie, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
Blazinghand (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (0): Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (1): Djodref

On April 05 2014 10:03 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 50
Day 1 vote count:

IAmRobik (0): Palmar, Tehpoofter
iamperfection (1): Foolishness, kitaman27, Paperscraps
Holyflare (0): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, justanothertownie, LSB, VisceraEyes, Koshi, strongandbig, Hopeless1der, kitaman27, kitaman27, VayneAuthority
Amiko (1): kitaman27, Paperscraps, Killing, IAmRobik, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Keirathi
yamato77 (0): Holyflare, LSB
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster, gumshoe
gumshoe (17): kitaman27, syllogism, sandroba, marvellosity, strongandbig, yamato77, justanothertownie, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
Blazinghand (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (0): Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (1): Djodref

Reduced Day 1 vote count:

IAmRobik (0):
iamperfection (1): Foolishness
Holyflare (0):
LSB (0):
Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Tehpoofter, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, LSB, kitaman27, VayneAuthority
Amiko (1): IAmRobik
yamato77 (0):
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0):
VisceraEyes (0):
VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe
gumshoe (17): sandroba, strongandbig, yamato77, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE
Dandel Ion (0):
Blazinghand (0):
marvellosity (0):

Not voting (1): Djodref

Ok so this is updated now. Here's some points that weighs in your favor (sandroba) on VE being scum.
1. No one jumped on the VE wagon. Minor but fair considering how scum tend to be trying to pile on to push weak lynches. The problem with this is that Palmer was on and off the wagon pretty quick. Even still he got a free pass from flipped scum.
2. VE ends up on the "right" wagon at the end of the day. Three confirmed scum end up on paperscraps; one on Banks. It's unlikely that they'd end with 4 or more scum on paperscraps.
3. Oats soft pushes the VA lynch all day based on VE's points. VE never really makes a good case on VA being scum
4. Oats soft defends VE at points.
5. VE never really explains any read/reason for LSB.

Points in my favor:
1. Oats jumps from BH to VA to Paper. If VE is scum, he's essentially jumping from a back to back scum vote to another back to back scum vote. That's pretty odd to me.

So yah, I can see a reason for killing VE. The problem is that if he's town, then we will still need to lynch Killing and JAT. Killing is the only other person, imo, who could find out Wave's role (wizard). I still think he's town. I can't really explain it. Call it feels if you will. That said, if we're going to lynch him today, then I want a 100% promise that we just call it #YOLO lurker lynch and then proceed to assume he's town and scumhunt from there.
[/s]
Gives reasons for VE to be scum, calls it #YOLO lurker lynch.
Gives zero reason for me to be scum. Wants to lynch me.
Seems legit.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 16 2014 21:49 GMT
#5803
1) I read it.
2) Because it is fucking bullshit.
If you think you can solve the game by analysing the day1 voting over and over without even taking the reasoning for the votes into account you are a hopeless case.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 17 2014 15:08 GMT
#5819
On April 17 2014 08:00 Paperscraps wrote:
JAT is being way too defensive for my tastes. It speaks more to him being mafia than 3p, since anytime anyone calls him out he has to respond and defend himself.

Are you serious here? Why the hell would I not defend myself? I have no buddies I can count on.
On April 17 2014 09:33 Amiko wrote:

Btw geript it seemed like austin wanted to lynch VE from his thread talk, but you are saying he was more set on JAT - did he want to lynch JAT in the QT? I don't mind if you ignore this it was just something I noticed cause I actually read austin's posts :3

As an aside, I'm not actually sure whether I should help JAT since I don't know if he did end up shooting at me, whatever I can deal with that later.
Also sandro is your position that you want me to use my 1-shot item scramble? I don't mind either way, but it would make things easier since it would let me make sure I'm keeping my word to JAT (though I don't know if he fulfilled his end).

Geript just pulls bullshit out of his ass to get me lynched over his scumbuddies. He has been doing so all day.
So, you used your vest I take it?
On April 17 2014 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
elect two people that will lynch VE and be done with this, nothing else to say

This guy gets it.
On April 17 2014 16:17 getmoript wrote:
Aust was kinda hazy at points about his order in QT. He prefers GE, Killing and VA (mostly in that order). He thinks the JAT/Sandroba stuff will sort itself out. I just find everything he does anti town and think he's lying. Like he had to have killed someone last night. What's his purpose? Kill Palmer because Palmer wanted him dead? Dandel's the only other reasonable option if JAT is 3P. I just don't see a reason for him to shoot from a 3P survivor standpoint. That makes no sense whatsoever especially when he supposedly has to kill Sandroba. It's all just too convenient. The more you think about the claims the less any of it makes sense.

This guy fails at reading.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 17 2014 23:19 GMT
#5834
There are only 9 people left...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 01:23 GMT
#5848
On April 18 2014 10:21 strongandbig wrote:
Ok he was unrecruitable traitor
There could actually be two more mafia

And who wanted to lynch not mafia? Yeah.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 15:31 GMT
#5882
On April 18 2014 11:30 Amiko wrote:
@strongandbig:
I think there's probably only one scum alive because if there were two they could have won, I think?
With just their votes they could have gotten second-place in the votes and secured a mislynch.

Then, it is either 3scum, 4town, 1 third party (me). Even if they get no kills, with my vote they can always get 4 votes on a person.
I guess it might also be 3scum, 3town, 2 third party (me + JAT), but then it's even more of a victory, they would lynch sandro.
Either way, scum has a good shot to win in that situation by getting a night kill and then joint-winning with me/JAT.


You don't take into account that the other mafia could not coordinate with VE. Besides that they would have outed themselves if they pulled this kind of stunt and if anything went wrong (for example with the nightkills) then they are fucked.
On April 18 2014 11:39 Amiko wrote:
It's probably from JAT actually

The role PM says pretty clearly that the other horses are on a different team so they are town
This is good since it confirms VA as town :3

1) I don't think the hosts would not censor information like this if it really confirmed VA and geript as town.
2) Again, take into account that VE technically wasn't on the scumteam.
On April 18 2014 21:43 strongandbig wrote:
Thought blast - ve's role seems really stupid unless one of the other horses is also mafia. What is the point of an unrecruitablr traitor rolecop?

This makes sense!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 15:41 GMT
#5884
Well, I won't be able to benifit from it tonight but why not?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 20:51 GMT
#5886
Geript, you around?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 21:15 GMT
#5888
Ok, I have 2 questions for all of you.

1) Does anyone know Sandros role even in the slightest?
2) Does anyone have an explanation for why he did not die when I used the ruby on him day2? You can see what the ruby does in Dandels rolepm.

If you don't want to give me information that's cool. A simple yes/no would be great too.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 22:23 GMT
#5891
Sounds pretty questionable. Why didn't he just kill me then (2 x 0.5 KP)? The ruby is as far as I know just a plain and simple normal KP. It should have been instant too since I used it during the day.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 22:24 GMT
#5892
Considering that he did fuck all since day2 I think everyone with a townread on him should really start to reevaluate.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 22:26 GMT
#5893
And if you come to the same conclusion then it might be in towns best interest to just let me shoot him. You can remove my KP this way without having to waste a lynch on me and you are also getting rid of a question mark that won't be resolved since sandro already announced that he won't be playing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 22:38 GMT
#5895
Like, geript I know you are suspicious of sandro yourself. If you rb me you only block a shot if I am 3P since if I was scum then there would definitely be another one who would carry out the KP then. If I am 3P I am telling the truth though and have no reason to shoot anyone but Sandro if I see a chance to actually kill him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 22:39 GMT
#5896
On April 19 2014 07:37 strongandbig wrote:
one thing is, on the night with no kp all of the medic protects and protective items were coordinated through our qt except paperscraps and robick. so that makes me feel like there wasn't scum in the qt.

But that night came with the prince of darkness power so I don't know if that is indicative of anything.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 22:40 GMT
#5897
Also what if Paper and Robik were the reasons there were no kills? I don't know how many other options there were but that sounds pretty reasonable to me. Sandro probably didn't soak KP since his ring didn't ever break.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 23:44 GMT
#5901
I also have no items. He also already stole from me once but if you insist - I really don't care.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 18 2014 23:52 GMT
#5904
Granted. But there is nothing that proves you are town either.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 19 2014 01:20 GMT
#5909
Told you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 19 2014 01:25 GMT
#5911
I don't think I will have to shoot you again - doesn't further anyones win condition. Also I have no decision to take as long as geript keeps rbing me/if sandro becomes a target.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 19 2014 12:44 GMT
#5913
Maybe because he was a claimed doc?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 19 2014 13:08 GMT
#5915
Of course you do. You are scum and need to lynch me so that 1) no scum is lynched 2) nobody does any scumhunting 3) no information can be gained out of the lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 19 2014 13:37 GMT
#5916
Geript wants to lynch me every day. Still since N2 (when he was afraid I would shoot him) he did not rb me until last night when he was ordered to do that. He obviously had no problem letting my KP roam free.
Makes sense how?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 19 2014 15:38 GMT
#5917
How come that Amiko and me are the most active people in this game? Wtf is town doing? You guys realize that there are probably 2 scum left and that it is LYLO again if that is the case?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 19 2014 17:00 GMT
#5921
At least you are the only obvious townie.

If geript did not roleblock me last night that would be a scumclaim, right?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 19 2014 17:01 GMT
#5922
EBWOP: @snb obviously....
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 19 2014 17:31 GMT
#5924
You have a point but he has been the only towny person for ages so...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 19 2014 23:30 GMT
#5927
On April 20 2014 08:08 Amiko wrote:
I'll prob just vote however geript says to though ^^

Why? It's not like geript is the towniest or best player here. Are you afraid that he will rb you?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 19 2014 23:42 GMT
#5928
On April 20 2014 07:58 Amiko wrote:
I think s&b is green because he lynched VE.
I think vayneauthority and geript are green (because of VE's role PM)

None of these are certain but I think it's a pretty good baseline.

Between sandroba and JAT why not lynch sandroba? If JAT is honest he wins and leaves the game and you can lynch Killing. If JAT stays in the game he is lying and you can always lynch him tomorrow.

But the most important is pls give me an item ;_;

As long as people agree on the rolepm part this is actually the correct play here.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 00:21 GMT
#5930
How can he take your items? I thought that happened when you tried to steal from him?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 00:55 GMT
#5933
On April 20 2014 09:40 Killing wrote:
There's no way I'm getting lynched. On the off chance that a mafia somehow infiltrated the pm circle of jerk then we're in some fucking trouble. Paperscraps and I instantly swapped roles once pms were enabled because we knew that each other were town. Here's why I'm town and we're not killing me:

1) I reduced chaos to 0 and delayed rb'ed a mafia ( LSB, this isn't confirmed but fuck you it's true)
2) My role is hilariously dumb to the point of I could not have made it up. If you think I'm mafia, then this is the worst mafia role ever made. I'm assuming this was some contrived support town role where someone tells me to find a wizard or a dragon and I find the shit out of them.
3) I knew paperscraps was OPOPOPOP medic since like day 2. If I was mafia, he woulda insta died cause that shit sounds ridiculous.

Anyways,here's my thoughts on lynches:

JAT: Probably the best bet for a 3p that is actually not good for town. He'd probably be my top lynch.
Amiko: Could also be lying. He should die at some point.
VA: I'm inclined to believe that he's town due to the nature and flavor of VE's role but god that guy is dumb. Maybe lynch him so I can stop reading his posts.
Sandro: Has been pretty town. From what I understand, he was one of the leaders of the pm circles that seem to have brought the town lots of sucess so he'd be my last.



1) First of all you don't mention snb and geript. Those are your townreads then I guess?
2) If you knew about papers role that early then reducing chaos to 0 is NOT VERY PROTOWN, right?
3) Let me explain the situation to you. There are almost certainly 2 scum left. If you believe that Amiko and me are 3P this means you instantly lose if you lynch me.
Now: 3 town, 2 scum, 2 3P
lynch me: 3:2:1
nightkill: 2:2:1
Game over.

So you better start looking for a person that can actually be scum as a lynch target.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 00:57 GMT
#5934
Killing doesn't seem to have any scumread and just tries to lynch down the list of 3P. Good lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 01:08 GMT
#5935
The 2 scum are between VA, Killing, Sandroba and Geript. Any lynch outside of those people loses town the game almost 100 %.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 01:12 GMT
#5936
Since noone (besides me) seems to suspect geript and he is able to keep me in check you can cross him off the list for today.
That leaves VA, Killing and sandro.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 13:59 GMT
#5940
Snb, you are the universal townread and the most reasonable person here. Who do you want me to vote for? I will vote for whoever you want as long as it is not me. It would be nice if you could tell me in the next couple of hours since it is absolutely possible that I won't be around at deadline today since it is easter sunday.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 14:24 GMT
#5943
I assume you are talking about me and not iamp. What would you have done in my position? It was obvious that I could not kill sandro even if I tried so why would I? I can't win if you lynch me before sandro is dead. Anyways when sandro dies you will see that I am telling the truth.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 14:32 GMT
#5945
Ok, that's fine with me too. Just tell me where my vote shall be in the next 2 hours if that's possible.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 16:00 GMT
#5946
Awaiting orders, sir.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 16:49 GMT
#5949
I tried to guard the device when he first rbed me and didn't show up at it. I sent in a shot on sandro last night and it didn't go through. His rb is legit. Ok, changing to VA. Maybe I will be back before deadline but I can't promise anything.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 23:44 GMT
#5962
I am back.
Amiko, are you telling me VE did not know anything about the scumteam after pms were allowed day2 and there was a claimed scum (syllo)?
SnB dude, it seems like your lynch is not going through. Let's switch to sandroba?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 23:46 GMT
#5964
Sorry if I am not making much sense I am a little drunk.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 23:46 GMT
#5965
On April 21 2014 08:44 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 07:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
if you really think its believable that almost the entire scum team pushed me and I bussed my entire team then feel free to go through with the lynch. Can't say I will be held accountable. Not posting a lot isn't my game as scum anyway.

Actually, this is pretty reasonable.

Let's just kill JAT then. It's quite possible he's the only one left.

No, it's not you genius. You roleblocked me last night and there was a nightkill. Seriously...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 20 2014 23:49 GMT
#5966
This is an agenda. Noone can be this dumb.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 00:26 GMT
#5972
On April 21 2014 09:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 09:14 Amiko wrote:
I mean my proposal was
sandroba -> JAT if still in game, Killing if JAT is not in game

but I mean I don't know who mafia is for sure and I'd rather the game doesn't end today anyway since I need another item first


re-read that whiny post killing made today and reconsider. Its just a pile of nothing, he doesnt actually say anything worthwhile. Should really kill him. What is his lynch preference? Who does he think is scum? who knows. he wants to kill me because im "annoying" and thats the extent of it.

He doesn't even want to kill you. He wants to kill all 3P first. It's ridiculous.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 00:34 GMT
#5975
On April 21 2014 09:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 09:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 21 2014 09:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 21 2014 09:14 Amiko wrote:
I mean my proposal was
sandroba -> JAT if still in game, Killing if JAT is not in game

but I mean I don't know who mafia is for sure and I'd rather the game doesn't end today anyway since I need another item first


re-read that whiny post killing made today and reconsider. Its just a pile of nothing, he doesnt actually say anything worthwhile. Should really kill him. What is his lynch preference? Who does he think is scum? who knows. he wants to kill me because im "annoying" and thats the extent of it.

He doesn't even want to kill you. He wants to kill all 3P first. It's ridiculous.


so you gonna switch your vote or what? looks like we might have to both switch to sandroba so we dont get last second ninja killed. pretty lame.

I don't really want to do that without snbs blessing but hey, better than no lynching I guess.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 00:35 GMT
#5976
It somehow sucks that we didn't get a votecount all day. I guess we should really switch. Sorry snb but our 2 votes on VA won't be enough.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 00:59 GMT
#5982
Good job geript. Whatever your alignment may be,
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 01:28 GMT
#5990
Will only work if geript does not rb me and amiko uses his ability I guess. But I will gladly try.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 14:32 GMT
#5997
On April 21 2014 23:24 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 21:08 strongandbig wrote:
Just let him kill sandroba

You know what fuck that. Scum has to outnumber the town, and I'm not giving them one fucking inch. I'm not ready yet to yolo this game on sandroba being scum and jat telling the truth about his role.

You know that geript basically claimed scum? He is the one who forced the no lynch yesterday even though he voted for sandro earlier. No way in hell this guy is town. Sadly sandro is probably is buddy.
Or do you believe what geript said yesterday? That I am the last scum even though there was a nightkill last night when he roleblocked me?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 14:34 GMT
#5998
Amiko, if you steal from geript you make a mistake - remember what happened last time. If geript rbs me your best bet is to steal from sandroba - he is guaranteed to have items.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 14:38 GMT
#5999
Fucking hell how am I ever gonna win if geript and sandro are mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 15:08 GMT
#6002
There is also no reason for geript to rb me tonight if he isn't scum with sandro.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 15:32 GMT
#6003
The only way for town to win this is if geript is town and roleblocks the scum nightkill today. The problem is: geript isn't town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 15:33 GMT
#6004
And if geript is mafia + sandro isn't there is also no reason to rb me. Leaves only one possibility - they are both scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 15:42 GMT
#6006
Taking a look at the OP.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 15:46 GMT
#6008
Mafia: Objective - Outnumber the town and no third parties with competing win conditions remain. KP for Mafia is #Mafia/2 rounded up. The number of Mafia is unknown. The Mafia will require members to carry out KP
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 15:54 GMT
#6011
On April 22 2014 00:48 Amiko wrote:
@geript Wouldn't it be safer & better for me to steal from sandroba?
I don't understand why you didn't just give me a random item during the day anyway :s
At the same time I don't really mistrust geript because after all, if he wanted to mess with me or keep my items he could have done so earlier.

Scum geript has every reason to be on good terms with you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 16:36 GMT
#6019
On April 22 2014 01:26 geript wrote:
OK. I think it's safe to assume that VE has probably been carrying out the KP for a while since despite being under suspicion. Except for the night that Ausin or S&B or whoever it was made him lovers.

I heavily heavily doubt that VE could carry out KP as an unrecruitable traitor.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 16:44 GMT
#6020
On April 22 2014 01:28 geript wrote:
ah ok. W/E

Here's what's going to happen. I'll try to announce my action right before the deadline. It's going to be on one of JAT/SAndro/Killing unless have I have any other real breakthroughs in thinking between now and then.

If you are town you are not rbing me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 16:50 GMT
#6022
Amiko, how many items do you currently have?
On April 16 2014 02:59 Amiko wrote:

However, if I'm alive I'll promise to use my one-shot disable power on a night of your choice.

I would like you to use this tonight. I guess you probably won't but even in this case please steal from sandroba. Afaik he is the only person you know has items besides maybe geript.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 16:50 GMT
#6023
I also think VA is town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 18:49 GMT
#6031
Sandroba has items - one is even confirmed. If you steal tonight and break your promise to me then you steal from him.

Either you have to steal from geript to lose all your shit. Conclusion: don't do it.
Or geript has to target you for you to lose all your shit. Conclusion: you don't need to steal from him since he won't waste a night action on you as either alignment.

How many items do you have?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 19:52 GMT
#6033
The damn ring. At least he himself said so and it makes sense. I suspect him to have another specific item too.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 20:29 GMT
#6040
On April 22 2014 05:18 Amiko wrote:
Also JAT I forget is your goal to kill sandroba? Or just to get the ring?

I just want sandro to die. That's all.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 20:30 GMT
#6041
On April 22 2014 05:21 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 05:19 strongandbig wrote:
On April 22 2014 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:
The damn ring. At least he himself said so and it makes sense. I suspect him to have another specific item too.

what's the other item?


PS #nope

Ok, then I don't know. But he has the ring.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 20:50 GMT
#6044
Ok, then I am clueless. Still Amiko I beg you steal from sandro.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 21 2014 20:53 GMT
#6045
He is guaranteed to have some kind of item.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 00:58 GMT
#6065
Oh god, that was close. GG.
Amiko, of course I did not shoot you!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 01:00 GMT
#6067
That's the 3rd game I ended by shooting the last scum. Has to be some kind of record.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 01:13 GMT
#6076
Hehe, I shot that annoying bastard Palmar (no offense) ^_^
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 01:14 GMT
#6077
I felt he wouldn't have stopped until he got us lynched.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 01:24 GMT
#6087
I am sorry for shooting Keirathi but it had to be done. If sandro and marv hadn't been that obvious with their qt I would not have known exactly who to shoot.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 01:28 GMT
#6091
On April 22 2014 10:25 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 10:24 justanothertownie wrote:
I am sorry for shooting Keirathi but it had to be done. If sandro and marv hadn't been that obvious with their qt I would not have known exactly who to shoot.


You are lucky SnB didnt need to have the ring activated on him. If it did then you would not have won, as he would have become insane.

I know. I was really afraid when he hinted that sandroba didn't have it anymore.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 02:07 GMT
#6108
Wtf happened with the ruby?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 02:44 GMT
#6112
Guess he tried too hard.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 07:27 GMT
#6139
On April 22 2014 13:33 syllogism wrote:
I wish we had shot JAT for not contacting us on day 2, he seemed a bit confused about his win con. The only third party who even remotely played like one was Amiko, although a bit disappointed by him/her attempting to help town in the end.

Yeah, wouldn't that have been a great idea?! Hey dude, I am 3P and my wincon is to shoot your scumbuddy so let's cooperate! Also I thought I would have won by the end of day2 so why bother.
Not my fault that apart from sandroba scummers were scumming hardcore.
On April 22 2014 16:16 Koshi wrote:
YES TOWN I ALWAYS KNEW YOU COULD DO IT!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!!

Must have been someone else who was CONVINCED the game was lost in the obs qt. ^_^
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 07:34 GMT
#6142
On April 22 2014 16:32 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 16:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2014 13:33 syllogism wrote:
I wish we had shot JAT for not contacting us on day 2, he seemed a bit confused about his win con. The only third party who even remotely played like one was Amiko, although a bit disappointed by him/her attempting to help town in the end.

Yeah, wouldn't that have been a great idea?! Hey dude, I am 3P and my wincon is to shoot your scumbuddy so let's cooperate! Also I thought I would have won by the end of day2 so why bother.
Not my fault that apart from sandroba scummers were scumming hardcore.
On April 22 2014 16:16 Koshi wrote:
YES TOWN I ALWAYS KNEW YOU COULD DO IT!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!!

Must have been someone else who was CONVINCED the game was lost in the obs qt. ^_^

You almost certainly thought Sandro was town on day 2 and cooperating with mafia to kill him was the natural thing to do.

No. Why would I do that when I can just dayvig him and win?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 07:35 GMT
#6143
On April 22 2014 16:32 Koshi wrote:
JAT could have been such a townhero by killing Sandrabo. Imagine that.

Dumb ruby.

Exactly. Imagine 3 dead scummers on day2 + your nightkill.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 07:38 GMT
#6146
At least I got him in the long run. There were times when I heavily doubted that I could win.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 07:39 GMT
#6148
On April 22 2014 16:37 Koshi wrote:
btw. Scum roles were omgbbq strong. Insane.

Yeah, oats role for example was sick.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 07:45 GMT
#6155
On April 22 2014 16:43 Koshi wrote:
Oh. And because town won in the end I am so happy this town circlejerk was total shit.

If you want to brag about a town circle at least make it a TOWN circle. Not a couple townies sucking a mafia penis.

Yeah, lol.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 12:29 GMT
#6164
Pfff, town taking credit for my sandro shot. Also if geript would have voted sandro D7 it would have been over then and there, so...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 12:32 GMT
#6165
On April 22 2014 11:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Wtf happened with the ruby?

Still confused!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 12:44 GMT
#6172
On April 22 2014 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 21:42 syllogism wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:41 Holyflare wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:40 syllogism wrote:
I had a red check on me, Oats claimed mafia, VE claimed mafia

I give you credit for Iamp and LSB


List was made far before any of them claimed mafia.

It was a game of clearing people based on claims, roles and activity

So like every game of mafia then.

No. Absolutely not. I am with syllo here.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 12:55 GMT
#6182
On April 22 2014 21:47 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 21:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:42 syllogism wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:41 Holyflare wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:40 syllogism wrote:
I had a red check on me, Oats claimed mafia, VE claimed mafia

I give you credit for Iamp and LSB


List was made far before any of them claimed mafia.

It was a game of clearing people based on claims, roles and activity

So like every game of mafia then.

No. Absolutely not. I am with syllo here.

If scum had roleblocked holy flare the game would've been completely different IMO. On the one hand, sandroba wouldn't have been "confirmed town," on the other hand not nearly so many roles would've been confirmed.


Also that jat palmar shot probably saved town lol. He really had a hardon for killing third parties.

Yeah, pms made this a different game...

And Palmar... tbh as long as town has a mislynch or 2 to spare his approach is entirely correct generally. He should have taken the play of the 3Ps into consideration (that's what he failed to do) but in general it probably isn't wrong to go after me here if you think Sandro is town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 12:57 GMT
#6186
On April 22 2014 21:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 21:50 Koshi wrote:
Don't brag about a towncircle when it isn't a towncircle.

Especially when you haven't done JACK SHIT in an entire game.

Wow you really are super butthurt.
To be fair I don't think very many people did much of anything.
Including you.
The game was heavily themed and as such there was a whole lot less analysis than usual and much more exploitation of roles.

I heard there were people that had to defend themselves every single day. Sometimes against accusations you can't defend against sometimes against total idiocy. Surviving was a chore...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 22 2014 13:01 GMT
#6191
On April 22 2014 21:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 21:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:50 Koshi wrote:
Don't brag about a towncircle when it isn't a towncircle.

Especially when you haven't done JACK SHIT in an entire game.

Wow you really are super butthurt.
To be fair I don't think very many people did much of anything.
Including you.
The game was heavily themed and as such there was a whole lot less analysis than usual and much more exploitation of roles.

I heard there were people that had to defend themselves every single day. Sometimes against accusations you can't defend against sometimes against total idiocy. Surviving was a chore...

You were SK and you're complaining about this?

No, but I certainly had to do things. ^^
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 23 2014 03:36 GMT
#6293
On April 22 2014 23:59 syllogism wrote:
Allowing JAT to RB+shoot Sandro was a pretty terrible idea considering it would have led to town loss had Sandro been town and if mafia had more than 1 kp (which they did) or more than 1 member left.

The salt is flowing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 23 2014 18:05 GMT
#6313
On April 23 2014 14:27 Foolishness wrote:
Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 02:56 Foolishness wrote:
"For example, has anyone actually read syllogism's filter?"

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 02:56 Foolishness wrote:
Other townies, such as Balla24,

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 15:13 Foolishness wrote:
According to a recent research paper by Foolishness, iamperfection may not be as perfect as his name implies. His close analysis of iamperfection's filter reveals interesting results that are fresh and new to Catastrophe town. The main result of the research is that iamperfection fits the bill perfectly as a mafia blending into the chaos.

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 15:13 Foolishness wrote:
"You definitely don't want to be visiting France anytime soon. There's something fishy going on there."



Two Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 15:13 Foolishness wrote:
"Yamato77 is definitely a trustworthy person. We've seen in the past that Austin is a light-hearted, fun city that's not afraid to troll you. The time of year you have to be suspicious of Austin is when he's being super-serious, and that's definitely not right now."

Two mafia and a 3rd party, 2 correct town reads (Keirathi and Koshi). Couple wrong.
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 03:16 Foolishness wrote:
iamp
Amiko
Hope
killing
syllo
Keirathi
and maybe Koshi

"It's posts like these that give me hope for the future," says esteemed mafia expert Foolishness. "Personally, I'd replace Keirathi and Koshi with Djodref and tehpoofter, and there's probably no reason to include VE. But otherwise this list probably wraps up most of the game."

One wrong, one correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 06:38 Foolishness wrote:
sandroba and kitaman are much more trustworthy.

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 06:38 Foolishness wrote:

Foolishness: The most damning thing about you is your switcheroo read on tehpoofter. I don't think that's reason enough to lynch you. I don't feel like you're hiding anything from the town. You're not pushing an agenda. Also a lot of questionable people are pushing your lynch. Ironically some of these players are also top of peoples' scum list.
Paperscraps: How does that factor in?
Foolishness: For example, I may have a list of 6-7 people I think are mafia. Obviously I probably have a couple right as most people would, but the others are all wrong. I always get antsy when 4 of the players in the list are all voting the same person.



Now...let's check out that other guy...


Two Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 18:21 marvellosity wrote:
Well, Holy, if you aren't mafia Koshi likely is.

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 18:38 marvellosity wrote:
Find me mafia then, Holy.

hint: yamato is not it

One Wrong, One Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
The people I won't lynch today under any circumstances:

rayn/syllogism*

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
I agree with you that I think he should find Robik town..

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:20 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 03:22 Holyflare wrote:
Paperscraps isn't in that list, paperscraps is being voted. Foolishness doesn't comment on paperscraps. Foolishness is a shitter version of shadow foolishness. Foolishness is mafia.

a tempting read.

One wrong, one half-correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 06:22 marvellosity wrote:
i'd still rather lynch paperscraps than poofter.

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 06:38 marvellosity wrote:
iamp is town, and it's nothing to do with calling me town, it's to do with the fact i have played with him 30 times and i know what a town-iamp looks like.

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:
tbh i will sheep you on austin.

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 07:11 marvellosity wrote:
and for some reason i kinda trust kita.

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 07:24 marvellosity wrote:
am gonna sheep sand.

Correct (or wrong depending on your viewpoint):
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:44 marvellosity wrote:
we're going to lynch Amiko

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 09:04 marvellosity wrote:
ok. i guess we lynch gumshoe.

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 09:14 marvellosity wrote:
also town hero dandle wants to kill gumshoe

Three Wrong, One Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 20:37 marvellosity wrote:
Should probably rehash things and start again to an extent, extra focus on people like BH, VA, LSB, Djodref.

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 00:17 marvellosity wrote:
yes, I'd quite like to see LSB die I think.

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 02:30 Koshi wrote:
marv is JAT town?

Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote:
i think so



In summary:

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:22 marvellosity wrote:
Plus I am right more often than Foolishness is right anyway.

That's all fine but at least he didn't save a mafia from KP. ^^
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 23 2014 19:07 GMT
#6315
Tree already taken by Koshi and Foolishness
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