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This seems crazy fun. Irrelevant of balance forced choosing between people brings up a lot of interesting dynamics. | ||
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The only thing I will say about my group is this: I'm fairly new to forums and I feel like I've been read as town by a couple of people in previous games with strong voices like Rayn pretty early on so I think putting my cell in to the first lynch cycle would be a good idea because being new easy town read gives town a 50/50 shot on the first day which is really good odds I think whoever is mayor should be trying to make groups orders based on cases where at least one person in the group is easily read as town and or mafia because we can narrow our odds to a 50/50 or 100% vs a group with say people with less polarized scum /town games | ||
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On April 02 2014 04:56 getmoript wrote: Rayn you liked this post and I absolutely hate it. Why in the world do you like this post? This is an awful post and you should know why? You roll scum? I don't like this first post by geript his first post of the game is to go out and accuse someone who is in his cell. I find that really scummy because of how this game is setup. Just in general I find it scummy because of how this setup looks to me. He also reaches out to rayn and from what I know of rayn he is a tunneling type player who will push push push for a read so if geript as scum can get town rayn thinking prplhz is already scum right off the bat this is ideal for him. I think he might have been trying to accomplish that. here. This is the exact thing I brought up in my first post about how I think scum would ideally play this game to give them the best chance at winning. @geript do you think my assessment of how the ideal town play to ignore the people in your cell until your lynch day is a good way to force people to read others and make connections is bad? If so can you ignore the others in your group until then? (obviously still get reads and have that ready for your lynch day but until then pretend they're not important to read) | ||
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On April 02 2014 04:08 prplhz wrote: i think it would be a great idea if people mainly focused on their own cell. that doesn't mean that you shouldn't tell the thread if you have reads on other people but if you are unfocused it makes very good sense to look at your own cell simply because you have a 50/50 chance there. I 100% disagree with this line of logic and is probably something I would have said had I been scum. (I thought way too much about this the night after I /ind this game) This is not a good idea because town needs to draw connections day to day and if its 3 people just fighting it out each day then we have to read them right every day whereas if you are forced to connect with people outside your cell we have chances to see things like scum/scum buddying/defending which will never happen if you only focus on your own groups..... prplhz looking scummy off this post. | ||
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On April 02 2014 04:42 LSB wrote: The most important feature of cell mafia is the ability to cull inactive players as soon as possible. This is interesting because this allows the game to maintain a level of activity and analysis demanded for the full duration, rather than it being a game between lurkers at lylo. Activity is very town favored because it is easier to find mafia if everyone has to speak, than throw darts at lurkers. I am going to rank players based on what I remember based on the most recent game in the TL mafia database A - Active Players, solid contributions and good amount of posts IL - Inactive or Lurking players, little thread presence in the last game This raiting is mainly to determine inactivity. Bold is for emphasis I didn't look to hard, but if you had at least 8 pages of posts I considered you active and if you had long posts I counted you as active Cell 1 A - Raynpelikonoshi - Probably the most active player on the forums A - Gumshoe - Active in A quiet game A - Steveling http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/311554-surprisingly-normal-mini-mafia-vii?user=Steveling&page=4 Cell 2 A Holyflare - Active in LXIII IL Tehpoofter - Modkilled for inactivity last game IL mderg - Inactive last game he played. It was 2 years ago http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/309405-werewolves-invade-teamliquid-ii?user=mderg Cell 3 A Palmar - Active in Default Suspicions IL Sentinel - Self admitted inactive and not in for the long haul ? Coagulation - Kushm4sta is active, but Coag can't post his seal. Cell 4 A Balla24 - Active in Default Suspicions A LSB IL Alakaslam - Pretends to be Chez, but never back it up with analysis. Cell 5 A Getmoript - Previous Hydra was active A prplhz - Active in Default supsions A Cephiro - Active in GMB If we go by this we see that Cell 1 and Cell 5 contain all active players. Cell 2 contains two inactive players Cell 3/4 contain at least one inactive player. Based on this, my ideal order would be 2,3,4,5,1. Or 2,3,4,1,5 Ultimentally this data would be best supplimented by seeing day 1 post counts. I like this analysis. I don't know the players in the forum that well aside from maybe 4-5 of you that I've played with know from video mafia. I think that something like this is really good to be thinking about. Just on a note for myself I have played two more games recently than the one you mention where I was mod killed with admittedly low activity(its crazy how much someone like rayn posts) Titanic and currently Dr Who 2 so I would still put myself in the low activity side of things. LSB Do you think my idea for ignoring the people in your own cell and focusing on those outside of it is good? | ||
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On April 02 2014 09:44 getmoript wrote: No. Ideal town play is to evaluate everyone. A strong town read vastly improves odds of hitting scum outside your pod and makes a 100% lynch in pod. Plus it lets you work together more in lynching correctly by getting honest opinions. I agree that if you can get the town read on someone in your group you should do that but I think the point is you should be evaluating publicly the people outside of your group because as scum you could just focus on your two people in the group and muddie up the thread with bs back and forth every day. I feel like today we should be reading everyone else and then each day focus on the cell at hand. I just want to avoid a situation where people focus only on our groups and town has no really good connections to work off. Basically right now you should be making your own notes on a case against people in your cell you think might be scum/town however you want to do it but not really letting those be known but focusing more on reading those outside of your cell because as town you will be making connections with no outside agenda. This makes the game harder for scum because they are forced to make connections they don't want to make and the only way town wins this game is through connections guaranteed. | ||
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Like this post seems to be hes actually reading people: On April 02 2014 07:50 Alakaslam wrote: OH LSB you are the other dude?!?! Crap Well so much for my reads. I townread you both. Crap. and these two posts he trying to extract game relevant info from palmer: On April 02 2014 10:02 Alakaslam wrote: Awesome you didn't leave Palmar can I take your order? On April 02 2014 10:05 Alakaslam wrote: The order of cells I mean + Show Spoiler + This is In-N-Out, we use a number system. 1, 2, or 3? All customizations are up to you. Feel free to ask for anything. He seems to be processing the game at least a little idk maybe I'm just noticing it more through the troll after playing a couple games with him but is this something you read as mafia slam? (His filter is still like 80% gibberish) | ||
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On April 02 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote: No poofter the best strategy is to find scum. This is easiest in your own cell because if you are town it's between 2 people and then you just find the obvious inconsistencies and mafia behavioural patterns because you 100% know one of them is scum. Just because the mechanics are a little different doesn't mean the underlying principle of finding and lynching mafia have changed. Just find the mafia in the cell and point them out and then move on and find more. Well yeah thats the best scenario and you SHOULD be making connections in your own group for sure like I'm reading you and the mderg guy but I think giving public opinions of your own cell during this day is silly. You should be sharing your views on people outside your cell if you find scum outside they bad ass lets get em boys!! but you should be making those connections public because that is harder for scum to do to openly talk about other group because they might have to talk to their scum teammates or give a strong read on them one way or the other something they would NEVER have to do talking about their own group. Its easy as both alignments to read your own group just find one person who is scummy or super townie and its solved but that doesn't help the rest of town. Inherently we have a 66% chance of lynching wrong each day and we have 5 days so if we random lynched every day we lose so building connections outside of your own group is important. The summary of the plan Scum hunt outside your group openly and scum hunt inside your group privately until its your lynch day then bring it all out so that mafia has a harder time not connecting with their team. | ||
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On April 02 2014 10:42 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Tehpoofter yes he is scum. Also Balla looks town and LSB looks okayish (but then again i have really hard time understanding LSB usually in games so maybe this means he is supertown). ~rayn I liked LSB's overview of the analysis of players expected postings cause I don't know everyone so that was townie to me going to check out Balla last time I played with him was the beacon of towniness, going to go check out their filters and see what shows up. As for Slam I'll toss him in probably scummy pile. Also side note your assessment we should lynch the auto scum first is 100% correct and I don't understand why gum was arguing differently. We have more time to assess the people who we don't read well. Like one of them is scum and they will either have to bus the auto scum or try to save them both of which put them in a position where they have to talk about their teammates which is super awkward as scum (THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD ALL BE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE OUTSIDE OUR CELLS TODAY!!) | ||
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On April 02 2014 10:49 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Drop this line of thinking right now. For other people they need to read 3 people in your group to find 1 mafia. For you you need to read only 2 people. You have advantage if you are town. If you share your thoughts on your cell aswell it gives other people a better read on you, which makes it easier for them to read you. Reads like "well this dude is town so this other dude must be scum" are shit and not worth sharing because it hinges on you being town and other people do not know if you are town or not, but legit reads. Always share. Makes my work solving the game much easier. ~rayn I will read my group and am reading my group but posting about it today I find useless and if you don't want to do that thats your prerogative but I think its an awesome idea and I'm going to do it either way cause I think its way more townie to do so. I will give my reads come cell 2 lynch day. | ||
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On April 02 2014 10:52 Holyflare wrote: Cba, type out the names for me? Slam, who and who? Slam, gum, and geript? maybe mderg if he agrees with you. | ||
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On April 02 2014 10:54 Holyflare wrote: Comment on what you think of mdergs. You just said we should auto lynch 100% scum and your read on him weighs into that. I will not be commenting on what I think you or mderg's alignment is until its day 2's lynch day. I'm looking for scum elsewhere. | ||
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On April 02 2014 10:56 getmoript wrote: God Rayn you are like super fucking infuriating when you don't listen to me. Like I don't really care what your alignment is right now but I'm not going to listen to your scum reads anymore. Like you half bother explaining them and then you always ignore me just like you did on Toad. The sad thing is I'm pretty sure Palmer's going to phone it in and the you and HF are going to drive town into the dirt. Like I'm not sure that you're scum but regardless of your alignment what you're doing is a real dick move and I don't appreciate it. What about his scum reads don't you like? I thought you agreed with his Slam read? Do you not like his gumshoe read? If so why? If you're town telling rayn how pissed you are at him doesn't do much good attack his case if you disagree otherwise this post just looks fluffy to me. | ||
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On April 02 2014 11:12 raynpelikonoshi wrote: If poofer refuses to contribute to HF/mderg's alignment your group goes first. ~rayn I'm fine with that and honestly think its a good idea and stated so in my first post. It really bugs me you don't see my logic. This is the same thing like when I was talking about the lynch at the end of the Titanic game maybe I'm completely wrong but I like my idea. I'll explain it one last time, if I were scum all I would have to do is just read my own group over and over maybe get in a yelling match with a town in my group over days at a time spend it calling him scum and comment on nothing else so even if I do get flipped as scum I never commented on anyone else in my scum team and town would have gotten one scum but have no real leads from my end as to who to go on next. Where as if I am commenting the first day on people outside my group then get into a match like that on my lynch day I have left behind bread crumbs to find the rest of my scum team. Like this seems simple to me, I'm not saying I'm not scum hunting my group just that you shouldn't scum hunt your group (cause as multiple people have pointed out its the easiest place to read!) publicly the first day but other groups so there is forced connections. | ||
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On April 02 2014 10:42 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Tehpoofter yes he is scum. Also Balla looks town and LSB looks okayish (but then again i have really hard time understanding LSB usually in games so maybe this means he is supertown). ~rayn I decided since I was wrong about slam in the titanic game and rayn was very quickly able to determine his alignment as town and I read rayn as town I was going to put him in my leaning scum pile because I feel rayn has more experience and better accuracy than me at reading slam. Also I'm still reading you guys filters Finished yours and reading LSB now. | ||
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On April 02 2014 11:30 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I am also going to say this last time poofer and i try to be as clear as possible. What you are doing is this: You are refusing to comment on the part of the game where it is statistically easiest for you to find mafia if you are town (and therefore prove your townieness) and where it's the hardest for you to hide if you are mafia. Can you see why it's scummy? ~rayn Well I disagree I see if I refused to give them ever that it would be scummy but thats fine I'm moving on and reading the slam/LSB/Balla cell now. | ||
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On April 02 2014 11:43 Balla24 wrote: If you have many people telling you what you are doing is wrong, shouldn't that tell you that you are probably wrong? You need to comment on your cell as soon as you get the chance to, and since you have been "taking notes on your cell" it should be easy for you to do so. Furthermore, why do you disagree with what rayn just said? I disagree that temporarily holding back your ideas is scummy but I do agree never telling is scummy. (Mainly I had this idea that if i got scum I'd just tunnel my own group and do nothing else and I wanted to avoid letting people do that as mafia and this sounded like a good way to do it so I'm probably just arguing cause I want my idea to be right) But after reading your filter you do seem more town like when we played that Newbie game forever ago with posts like this one: On April 02 2014 04:50 Balla24 wrote: Neither does your post. What exactly is the point of it? Are you calling sentinel scum because he is "claiming town"? I had highlighted that post by mderg in my normal read through and your comment I agree that his non conclusion on Sentinal is really weird like he wants to paint him as scum without actually using those words. Makes me think Mderg scummy Sentinal town. I like that you seemed to on the same thought chain as me here. So atm in my cell I'm leaning HF=town and Mderg=scum. As far as your filter what do you read on slam Balla? Do you read him like rayn based off tone? | ||
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On April 02 2014 05:15 LSB wrote: No. The point is this. The order is decided by the town. The mayor is nothing but a figurehead who submits the order decided by the town to Artanis. If the order differs we policy lynch the mayor. In this case it doesn't even matter who the mayor is. Heck it might even be the top scumread + Show Spoiler + Actually that's a risky idea, but can work in specific situations. For example if the top scumread is in a group with someone we'd liked to get confirmd I like the bolded section because its how I feel about mayor. They should be someone who is knowledgeable about the players and basically just gives the info to the mod at the end of the day and I don't feel getting voted mayor is alignment indicative unless you go against town's wishes then that would be alignment indicative. I like LSB for this post and I said earlier his post showing the activity levels although that might just be because I don't know a lot of players here so it gives me a decent idea of what to expect. My only problem is that I do think those two posts I linked of slam seem town but rayn seems certain I'd really like to here input on this from some other people like geript/gum/prplz as to what they read off slam. For me though I'm reading Balla's cell as Balla most town then LSB then Slam in descending towniness. | ||
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On April 02 2014 12:16 Balla24 wrote: Two things: #1: Is holding back your ideas hindering scum's abilities to play properly or is there any reason that you are actually holding back your ideas? If not, then you are only hindering town's ability to read you, so post what you think of your cell. #2 Like rayn said, it is EASIEST to read your cell, since you have a 50% chance of being correct therefore it is also hardest to hide within as mafia, since the people within your cell have a higher shot to read you. So you need to post about these people. You thought I was scum before reading my filter? Why? This makes no sense if you thought Slam was scum. Maybe i'm misreading the "but after reading your filter". I don't read Slam off of tone, I read him off of content. I'm 2/3 with him. When he posts mostly gibberish he is town when he posts somewhat related to the game he is mafia. That didn't work for me last game so I will be more careful, right now he is town but he's had a string of posts that are making me doubt that. Plus it's not that unreasonable for him to have been changing that meta on purpose. Which leads into LSB: he has talked a lot about setup and pushed a prplhz mafia angle for a little while. From what I've seen so far it is not totally unreasonable for him to be mafia. We will see what he does. Last thing to you poofter: you just directly contradicted what you have been preaching for the past couple of hours and asked me about someone in my cell even though from your PoV I shouldn't be commenting on people in my cell. What gives? I don't know you and rayn's alignment so I have to consider that you're attacking my plan because you're scum and know its a good idea or that you're town and my idea is shit. So The "after reading your filter" bit was me saying "well shit I read rayn as town and Balla now looks town maybe my idea was shit" so before you were neutral and I wanted you to comment on my idea after the read you both look town and so maybe my idea was bad. I have formally abandoned my plan because apparently it was bad so might as well use my town reads to figure out what they think and find out their views. You and rayn could be mafia and I'm misreading you both but since I've only played with a couple people in this game you and rayn being 2 of them and you were both town in the games I've played getting a read on you both as town and trusting your judgement seems like the best course of action. Basically I reassessed after reading your filter and am willing to try it you guys way. | ||
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On April 02 2014 12:55 Balla24 wrote: Ok then, so moving on: what are your thoughts on Holyflare and mderg? So I liked your point on mderg he seemed to make a really weird point that led me to believe he is scum and sentinal is town if thats the case. He wasn't willing to call sentinel scum off what he said but like wanted someone else to which is scummy. As for HF he has 2 posts that cause me worry. On April 02 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote: So just to confirm with scum geript here. Plam, rayn, hf confirmed town now right? Then right after that. On April 02 2014 11:02 Holyflare wrote: Why confirm palmar? List of what he's done : 1. Said this day is shit and he wants to afk it 2. Agrees with rayn that we ashould be scum hunting today 3. Asks to be mayor repeatedly instead Is that towny to you slam? So to me he insinuates palmer is town cause of something geript said who he reads at scum then his very next post he makes it seem like palmer is not town at all. Now I think the 2nd post is probably more indicative of how HF feels because I can see the 1st one being more of a sarcastic off hand remark and more about geript than Palmer. However it is odd that back to back posts from him call Palmer two different alignments. HF also read my idea about the cell reads as stupid which is what rayn and balla both did and they seem town to me so I guess he should get town points for that. For me Mderg more scummy than HF. | ||
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On April 02 2014 14:08 gumshoe wrote: I was curios why he defended steveling, I am less curios about that now that rayn is most likely my adversary. Are you people really this blind? Or am I just talking to scum? This is a unique setup where every third person you talk to is red and swaths of people have gone out of their way to attack this guy, WHO WE KNOW is capable of suppar play. As for the lurkers, they have straight up not started playing, that is fucking null and nothing else, they might be scum or town, seriusly doesn't matter and that argument of yours is awful. Point is, half the actives think mdern is scum for bieng mdern, and half the actives are scum, I'm sure there's townies on the wagon too but there are almost certainly scum who judging by the qoutes WANTED to be on him. If the distribution was even then it would be 1/3rd of the people. I feel like you're over stating the fact that these people are likely to include mafia. So out of the ones who are there calling him scum who is the scum? Like you say its half so who are the three scum? | ||
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On April 02 2014 14:25 getmoript wrote: But banks I'm clearly town. I clearly would've made a NK here. Not sure who. Probly Palmer if he's town. Should probably call me poofter or no one will know who you're talking to and you'll seem crazy. Nk= night kill? I have read you more town from the posts you've made since your first one that and the other dude in your cell has gotten scummier. I like this game because you can read those associations really easily and if two people are town and the other is mafia! So when he looks worse you look better. I do have you more town now though as I said responding to gumshoe I think. | ||
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On April 02 2014 15:36 getmoript wrote: I want to reiterate this post. Maybe I'm not explaining it well. This is a really good point I've been trying to make and hasn't gotten through someone. Town tends to come down and stand up for what they believe; they know they're town and will evaluate their plans and think about them and reevaluate etc. But when a townie presents a plan, they're confident in it. They like the plan. They want town to follow it. So prplhz taking such an unconfident odd stance on the mayor mattering one way or another really bugs me. Are you reading all this from him saying "maybe the mayor doesn't matter much"? Or did he have other posts that make you have this view? I'm eating so not really in a filter diving mood but your point is interesting if there is posts to back it up. | ||
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On April 02 2014 16:27 getmoript wrote: No it's a read on how you present things as town and it's a super awkward way to start talking about a how you think about the game. A lot of it is based on experience. I want to go back and reread PYP Boardwalk to look at the plans proposed there, but I don't have time right now. hmm I still don't 100% follow you but I may just be tired. Anyone else get it and want to explain it? | ||
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Like I could make cases on all of you guys, GUM: basically to me Rayn's case on gum is really strong he pretends to set some trap that doesn't work (but seems like it would only catch town if it did work) and then calls rayn scum for it. I thought rayn refuted his claim pretty well and answered some questions on it. Balla brought up a good point last night about how gum accussed rayn of doing the same thing he was doing in ignoring steve and being scummy for it. I think gum went into mega defensive mode and just started throwing shit at rayn and rayn did the same until rayn saw gum say he swears hes town. Rayn: Looks good for his case on gum then does this 180 and instantly believes him on the thing he said about swearing. I find it really odd that logical rayn town would drop his biggest case on someone he knows has a 50/50 of being scum just because he said one thing. This makes rayn look scummier in my eyes because he might have felt like others would see that and if he kept tunneling he would out himself if he were scum so he hipster switched so he could be the first one to say thats the case. (For me this means nothing btw its a game about lying I expect anyone in here would say anything to not look more town as scum and I would never fault anyone for it, I'd swear on my grandma's grave I was town and my grandma isn't even dead) So I find this really odd of rayn to switch here. Steve: Steve then has like the weirdest reaction ever and says someone is cheating and starts getting all emo and bent out of shape about something that to me just made his cellmate rayn look more scummy and changed nothing on my read on gum. So If I was steve I would be asking the mod why he put two scum in my group not going on about cheating and such. So after 20 pages of bullshit-in-fighting of one cell if this were a normal game I'd probably lynch all of them and assume I hit at least 2 scum. In this game sadly only 1 is scum and 2 are town. So rayn's case on gum looks like it comes from a town point of view and maybe he is just a reactionary player and did the swap onto steve because he has some weird set of mafia morals that I would never follow so I'll give rayn the town pass here. (Now later on in the thread I think he makes other contributions to be more townie as well so this got strengthened even more so) Steve emo quitting reminds me of rayn doing the same thing in Titanic about coag being a hydra. Rayn emod for a couple hours and turned out to be town here so I'm going to assume thats what is happening here cause I still haven't seen gum do anything really very townie and there can be only one scum. (I also have more reasons on steve here in a second based on another read.) Right now Scum=Gum, Rayn = Town, Steve = Town cause gum is scum. I'd just like to say this is exactly what scum would have wanted in this game and why my plan was amazing and if you guys focused elsewhere the reads would be more spread out and varied and could be scumx2 or 3xtown or something but instead we have 20 pages of fighting that might net us 1 scum and thats only if one becomes obvious which to me it hasnt. /end rant on my system as I still read Balla/Rayn as town and they both think its shit. More on other scum that popped up during the Cell 1 Battle royale. | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:23 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Congratulations you just made a 1000 word post that started with: gumshoe is mafia and ended with: gumshoe is mafia PROFIT! ~rayn You gumshoe fought for 20 pages and its what I got out of it I will gladly waste 1000 words saying what took you guys 20 pages. You should have just ignored him rayn let the scum battle you and move on. Now onto more reads. | ||
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On April 03 2014 08:04 prplhz wrote: mderg might be scum because he was right on steve when no one else was. i also like balla24's early read on him but that's a bit more flaky. poofter i don't know really. low activity and i don't remember thinking his posts were all that great. flare isn't very active. dunno that's kind of a hard group. flare is nowhere near as townie as he was in that game we just played where no one accused him of anything the entire game. So I hate slips I really do as part of case maybe in his mind steve is town here and mderp is the first to point it out. But It seems certain like that wording is super awkward as town. I think its scummy of him to say either way because hes saying "Hey I think this guy that same to the same conclusion as me is scummy for it" I mean maybe its like hes hipster and he knew it first is what he is going to use if steve flipped green but meh. He also says that holyflare isn't active. I don't find that to be the case at all he was commenting the whole time during the 20 page cell 1 battle now I agree that he isn't as spammy as he was last game I played with him in titanic where he called out DP day 1 and wouldn't shut up about it (to be fair no one listened sry HF) but he still has been active in the thread so painting him as inactive to me is a lazy read. The point on me is fair I'm a low volume player which is fine I make myself known as town and am trying to get better at hunting scum. Although personally I think my posts are great he can disagree on that. This post seems like he wanted to give some reads on a cell but didn't really put much effort into it. Now this is either lazy town or scum not wanting to pick a side. I actually think his mderg read was a light bus tbh and will be bringing up my case on mderg after I get off work in a half hour. @prplhz How is HF low activity? Is he said anything you do and don't like? What about me? Anything about my plan or my interactions? Mderg only scummy cause he "was right" on steve? or is there anything else? | ||
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I'll reread it when I get home geript about to get off work here and have to clean up around here and also need to read the other games I'm in.... I'm super salty I read 20 pages of arguing and came to the same conclusion I should have just skipped the whole damn thing. | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Tell me what scum gum's rationale would be for blatantly ignoring rayn's criticisms when rayn is one of the most sheep-able people on this forum. Last I checked, Steve had a townread on rayn and was very timidly pointing his finger at gum. This whole thing about setup being botched is a joke IMO. Even if they didn't change your opinions on gum/steve, could you give me some thoughts on the interactions between the two of them? As in Steve's thoughts on gum and vice versa Rayn is not Steve, and the reasons they gave up hope were completely different and under different circumstances. Rayn continued to post very actively while Steve seems to have gone off the radar as he came closer and closer to bedtime, although that might change tomorrow. This is probably the weakest point in your argument. Where do I say that he ignored his questioning? I don't think he did he just answered them poorly like didn't respond well. Setup being botchered is a joke? <<<i don't understand this maybe I'm misreading but I don't get this point. I did see steve leaning on gum being mafia and actually was reading that townie (cause I was and am thinking the same thing) I'd have to go look at some of their direct interactions but I don't remember anything specific what point were you getting at with this? The last point is mainly me just being butt hurt they didn't like my plan tbh and isn't really an accusation on anyone. @sentinel I really don't understand your first two points all that much maybe I'm missing something. I'm about to get off work but I'll be back around in 30 minutes and look more thoroughly on what you said I might have read it to quick. | ||
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@geript I think we should do your group first and get prplhz did you read my case on him? I think he is scum. | ||
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@LSB So you are the best mayor? What are your reads on my cell (cell 2)? I see you put us 2nd to last by PoE. What if it came down to the last day and it came down to your group and you're choosing between Slam and Balla (assuming you're town) do you feel confident in your ability to read slam? | ||
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On April 03 2014 15:23 Alakaslam wrote: Banks we gotta get lazing hand join some voice mafia Everyone should play video mafia its crazy fun and better yet I'm way better at video mafia than forum mafia I can't read body language grrr. (Although I should totally give reads as if I could) | ||
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On April 03 2014 15:54 getmoript wrote: This should be a fun one... Tehpoofter I'm always fun! dibs on pink elephant or blue whale. | ||
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@Slam what about you? is this giving you a read at all? Why vote LSB over geript or rayn or HF? | ||
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On April 03 2014 16:05 getmoript wrote: I already have a read on slam, but I want to clarify it to make sure I'm right and I didn't go back on a good scumread. Basically, Rayn got his Slam scumread for me and I want to prove that I'm better at reading Slam than he is and give explicable reasons as to why I'm right and people should listen to me. I'm not going to lie if you quoted any of these posts and said "this is why slam is x" I would think you were crazy. I mean its a funny interaction but I don't get anything out of it but nulllll for both of you. | ||
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On April 03 2014 16:18 getmoript wrote: It takes crazy to understand crazy. And I mean that in the most loving way I can Slam. I do thoroughly enjoy playing with you slam. I play with slam and it seems to me like he rolled a role every game where he can only make 1 coherent game relevant post per every 5 pages and must make 10x that in troll posts. I feel I'd need like 20-30 more games with him to read him correctly for now I am just going to trust who I think is town to read him right. | ||
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On April 03 2014 17:29 getmoript wrote: Palmer just posted in the other thread but hasn't yet in here. I am unhappy. You just posted in this thread and not the other one. I'm unhappy. | ||
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On April 03 2014 20:07 Holyflare wrote: Ours so i can play catastrophe without caring about this game :D. Sorry to say I'd lynch you mderg! haha I was thinking something similar nothing against this game mode but the other game has buttons to press!! Although I do think mderg is the scum in our group based on the posting and I'd like to get town off to a good start. | ||
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On April 03 2014 20:19 mderg wrote: But I think you are way more likely to be scum than him. What makes HF scummy? Its you or him and i've seen way more scum from you than him. | ||
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On April 03 2014 20:31 mderg wrote: I think you are scum and just trying to get a fast and easy lynch on one player in your cell (me). First you point me out as certain scum like 4 hours into the game. After that almost every suspicion or calling people out was strongly related to me (gumshoe defended me concerning my wagon, I defended steveling). You didn´t really push any other cases, mainly focused on people with a connection to the case on me. So I thought I´d ask you which cell you want to be up first to reinforce my suspicion. You answered exactly like I thought you would by searching for a fast and easy misslynch on me. Right now the only real reads to be made on me flipping town would be regarding cell1 which has been in chaos the whole game. Not much for the other scum to fear. That´s my take on you right now, Holyflare @mderg how do you read balla and rayn? | ||
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1) Wtf with drunk rayn that was.... something and now puts us in a shit spot with them going third. We need to get both these ones right (at least 1) or that day is going to be really really weird. Geript were you right about rayn? 2) Sorry I didn't vote I thoguht I voted before bed but I'm bad and missed it I will vote today... starting that off now... ## Vote: Coagulation Palmer has seemed town to me with his posting regarding cell 3 shit fest yesterday, Sentinal Is a bit lesser of a town read I have liked most of his posts except the one where he was talking to me where he was making some points that didn't make a whole lot of sense. I'd like to have a dialog with you sent if you're around. Also to those who know Coag does he typically give up like this if hes town? | ||
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To the matter at hand where do you see your vote landing today. For me I feel pretty confident in Palmer the other two are the ?s but if Rayn was scum him putting that group first leans towards Palmer potentially being scum I'm just not sure I want to live in that world right now. | ||
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@palmer/those on the Sent lynch what pushed it over? And vote count would be awesome. | ||
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##Vote Prplhz | ||
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