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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 01 2014 19:30 GMT
#161
On April 02 2014 04:23 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 04:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So my very first impression:

If I wasn't in this group (let's just say, Group 6), my first-guess order would be 3 -> 4 -> 2 -> 5 -> 1. I think I'll have an easier time with reading the people in the last two groups - I've played with them more recently, or they're just more straightforward overall. Especially rayn, koshi and gum.

As a member of group 3 I still like that order because I don't have to play for a long time, although Coag's not too unpredictable, kush you can usually see once you wade past all the bullshit, and Palmar... I'll think of something.

Group 2 is my neutral people - Holyflare is the only one I've had experience with. Group 4 really depends on how erratic Slam becomes over the course of the game.


How can the first sentence be justified if you want to be taken out of the game first as shown in the second sentence?

"If I wasn't in this group"

If I'm staying around to continue making reads on group 5 and 1 that's great and all, but then I also have to decipher my own group.

On April 02 2014 04:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Red and green, which is it? Do you want the groups with people you have an easy time reading to go before you or do you want to go first? If you can read certain people why don't you want those groups go before you? Why instead offer yourself to go first, as if you read the people you can read correctly and lynch mafia your group will become easier to figure out later as you become obviously town.

I don't get this post Sentinel, it's really messy. What do you want here?

~rayn


I'm in agreement with prplhz's idea to get rid of unreadable players first because it allows more information for later days in the game. So get rid of 3/4, which I consider unreadable. Or I guess if I'm the one specifically making the reads from my position in group 3, then 4.

What I want is lunch. Once I acquire that after finishing this post I will make more sense. Probably.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 01 2014 19:33 GMT
#162
Sentinel what i want to know is do you want to lynch into your group or not and why.
Do you consider yourself unreadable?

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2014 19:35 GMT
#163
On April 02 2014 04:25 Balla24 wrote:
So @prplhz are you saying it's likely that we mislynch when lynching into my cell? In that case why would you want us first, we'd just be starting 0-1?

no, the players in your group are the players i don't think we will benefit a lot from having around a lot. none of you are famous and reliable scum slayers and you seem kind of scummy. we just give it our best shot and then that's it. lynching into group rayn would be silly because rayn looks more and more and he's also a reliable scum hunter that we'll want to have around for more than 48 hours. same with groups 1,2,3,5
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 01 2014 19:37 GMT
#164
prplhz what's wrong with Balla?

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
April 01 2014 19:38 GMT
#165
I find it weird that people want to lynch "unreadables" first...

Unreadable means you can't properly discern their alignment, therefore lynching groups with "unreadable" people in it means we have less chance of hitting mafia, so why would we want them to go first. That's silly, we'll just be behind early if we don't get lucky.

For the record, I think my group is very READABLE, and I think it will be easy to catch the mafia in my group therefore we should go first but I think it's stupid that you guys want us to go first if we are "unreadable".
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2014 19:39 GMT
#166
i actually think cell 4, then cell 3,5 in some order, then cell 1,2 in some order.

palmar's usefulness drops sharply after d1 and coag/kush might be very hard to read.

i think rayn/flare has good reads on each other and i'd like to see them go lategame together.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
April 01 2014 19:40 GMT
#167
On April 02 2014 04:35 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 04:25 Balla24 wrote:
So @prplhz are you saying it's likely that we mislynch when lynching into my cell? In that case why would you want us first, we'd just be starting 0-1?

no, the players in your group are the players i don't think we will benefit a lot from having around a lot. none of you are famous and reliable scum slayers and you seem kind of scummy. we just give it our best shot and then that's it. lynching into group rayn would be silly because rayn looks more and more and he's also a reliable scum hunter that we'll want to have around for more than 48 hours. same with groups 1,2,3,5


Sure, this makes more sense than wanting us to go first because we are "unreadable" and lynchbait.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 01 2014 19:41 GMT
#168
On April 02 2014 04:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Sentinel what i want to know is do you want to lynch into your group or not and why.
Do you consider yourself unreadable?

~rayn

I consider myself perfectly readable. I am town, thus I know that I am town.

I consider myself pretty easy to read by others, if I had to guess what my town/scum features would be, it's that I get a lot more frustrated as town. In Noir I was a lot more logical and active than usual because I had 5 people to calm me down and streamline my behavior. With town I either get mad and stop caring (Nuclear Winter), or tunnel someone because I can't be arsed to do anything else (Roulette).
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 01 2014 19:42 GMT
#169
Adding to the town list, I kinda did both intermittently (lurk and tunnel) in Resistance III.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 01 2014 19:42 GMT
#170
The most important feature of cell mafia is the ability to cull inactive players as soon as possible. This is interesting because this allows the game to maintain a level of activity and analysis demanded for the full duration, rather than it being a game between lurkers at lylo.

Activity is very town favored because it is easier to find mafia if everyone has to speak, than throw darts at lurkers.



I am going to rank players based on what I remember based on the most recent game in the TL mafia database

A - Active Players, solid contributions and good amount of posts
IL - Inactive or Lurking players, little thread presence in the last game

This raiting is mainly to determine inactivity. Bold is for emphasis

I didn't look to hard, but if you had at least 8 pages of posts I considered you active and if you had long posts I counted you as active

Cell 1
A - Raynpelikonoshi - Probably the most active player on the forums
A - Gumshoe - Active in A quiet game
A - Steveling http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/311554-surprisingly-normal-mini-mafia-vii?user=Steveling&page=4

Cell 2
A Holyflare - Active in LXIII
IL Tehpoofter - Modkilled for inactivity last game
IL mderg - Inactive last game he played. It was 2 years ago http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/309405-werewolves-invade-teamliquid-ii?user=mderg

Cell 3
A Palmar - Active in Default Suspicions
IL Sentinel - Self admitted inactive and not in for the long haul
? Coagulation - Kushm4sta is active, but Coag can't post his seal.

Cell 4
A Balla24 - Active in Default Suspicions
A LSB
IL Alakaslam - Pretends to be Chez, but never back it up with analysis.

Cell 5
A Getmoript - Previous Hydra was active
A prplhz - Active in Default supsions
A Cephiro - Active in GMB



If we go by this we see that

Cell 1 and Cell 5 contain all active players.
Cell 2 contains two inactive players
Cell 3/4 contain at least one inactive player.

Based on this, my ideal order would be
2,3,4,5,1. Or 2,3,4,1,5

Ultimentally this data would be best supplimented by seeing day 1 post counts.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 01 2014 19:43 GMT
#171
On April 02 2014 04:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 04:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Sentinel what i want to know is do you want to lynch into your group or not and why.
Do you consider yourself unreadable?

~rayn

I consider myself perfectly readable. I am town, thus I know that I am town.

I consider myself pretty easy to read by others, if I had to guess what my town/scum features would be, it's that I get a lot more frustrated as town. In Noir I was a lot more logical and active than usual because I had 5 people to calm me down and streamline my behavior. With town I either get mad and stop caring (Nuclear Winter), or tunnel someone because I can't be arsed to do anything else (Roulette).

So what's the problem? Palmar is also perfectly readable, if not to you to many other people. Regardless of if Coag is readable or not your group should be easy to figure out. If you are town why do you want to get yourself "out of the game"?

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 01 2014 19:46 GMT
#172
I'd rather not get our group lynched so i can tell who is mafia in every group LSB.

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 01 2014 19:46 GMT
#173
I'm fine with D3.

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2014 19:47 GMT
#174
On April 02 2014 04:38 Balla24 wrote:
I find it weird that people want to lynch "unreadables" first...

Unreadable means you can't properly discern their alignment, therefore lynching groups with "unreadable" people in it means we have less chance of hitting mafia, so why would we want them to go first. That's silly, we'll just be behind early if we don't get lucky.

For the record, I think my group is very READABLE, and I think it will be easy to catch the mafia in my group therefore we should go first but I think it's stupid that you guys want us to go first if we are "unreadable".


"unreadable" as in "having them around probably will not give you any information to work with". at the same time lynching into unreadables might give us a good idea about the people left in the town, rather than autolynching someone who claimed scum.

if there's some ezpz town read in a group i think it would make sense to have them around for long, they can help town focus and will not cause a distraction.

On April 02 2014 04:37 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
prplhz what's wrong with Balla?

~rayn

dunno, i like his activity so far and he seems interested in the game. we also agreed on cell 4 first though apparently for different reasons but i don't mind that because his reasons are alright too.

i'm okay with him for now.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
April 01 2014 19:47 GMT
#175
On April 02 2014 04:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 04:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Sentinel what i want to know is do you want to lynch into your group or not and why.
Do you consider yourself unreadable?

~rayn

I consider myself perfectly readable. I am town, thus I know that I am town.

I consider myself pretty easy to read by others, if I had to guess what my town/scum features would be, it's that I get a lot more frustrated as town. In Noir I was a lot more logical and active than usual because I had 5 people to calm me down and streamline my behavior. With town I either get mad and stop caring (Nuclear Winter), or tunnel someone because I can't be arsed to do anything else (Roulette).


I hate things like the bolded part, just doesn´t add anything. Everybody claims to be town.

The analysis on yourself is interesting, I think it is very difficult to read peope who know their "town/scum features"
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 01 2014 19:47 GMT
#176
On April 02 2014 04:46 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I'd rather not get our group lynched so i can tell who is mafia in every group LSB.

~rayn

Sorry I don't understand, can you please rephrase?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
April 01 2014 19:50 GMT
#177
On April 02 2014 04:47 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 04:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On April 02 2014 04:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Sentinel what i want to know is do you want to lynch into your group or not and why.
Do you consider yourself unreadable?

~rayn

I consider myself perfectly readable. I am town, thus I know that I am town.

I consider myself pretty easy to read by others, if I had to guess what my town/scum features would be, it's that I get a lot more frustrated as town. In Noir I was a lot more logical and active than usual because I had 5 people to calm me down and streamline my behavior. With town I either get mad and stop caring (Nuclear Winter), or tunnel someone because I can't be arsed to do anything else (Roulette).


I hate things like the bolded part, just doesn´t add anything. Everybody claims to be town.

The analysis on yourself is interesting, I think it is very difficult to read peope who know their "town/scum features"


Neither does your post. What exactly is the point of it? Are you calling sentinel scum because he is "claiming town"?
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 01 2014 19:51 GMT
#178
On April 02 2014 04:47 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 04:38 Balla24 wrote:
I find it weird that people want to lynch "unreadables" first...

Unreadable means you can't properly discern their alignment, therefore lynching groups with "unreadable" people in it means we have less chance of hitting mafia, so why would we want them to go first. That's silly, we'll just be behind early if we don't get lucky.

For the record, I think my group is very READABLE, and I think it will be easy to catch the mafia in my group therefore we should go first but I think it's stupid that you guys want us to go first if we are "unreadable".


"unreadable" as in "having them around probably will not give you any information to work with". at the same time lynching into unreadables might give us a good idea about the people left in the town, rather than autolynching someone who claimed scum.

if there's some ezpz town read in a group i think it would make sense to have them around for long, they can help town focus and will not cause a distraction.


So if you are so focused on lynching unreadables, why are you on a giant crusade to lynch group four first?
This just doesn't make sense. I can understand slam to a certain degree if he just plays nonsense, however me and balla are pretty active and readable.

Why not something like group 2 or 3 if you are looking for people that are unreadible?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 01 2014 19:52 GMT
#179
On April 02 2014 04:47 prplhz wrote:
dunno, i like his activity so far and he seems interested in the game. we also agreed on cell 4 first though apparently for different reasons but i don't mind that because his reasons are alright too.

i'm okay with him for now.

You just said he seems kinda scummy.

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2014 19:53 GMT
#180
@LSB werewolves mafia was a PM game

also, do you think that me, getmoript and cephiro is a LYLO trio you'd want in a regular game?
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