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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
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raynpelikonoshi
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Balla24
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On April 02 2014 05:07 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I just made a post about it. Or asked other people about it. You lynch the groups where you know mafia is and make the order based on reads after ~40 hours or so. If there are similar groups / a lot of unsureness you first pick the groups where there are players who are most likely not paying attention later on in the game (for example kush is never going to reread the thread, ever). But who gets to be the mayor does not matter. If you can explain to me why does it matter go ahead. ~rayn Exactly, and it should be fairly easy to decide as a group what the group order should be, and if the mayor doesn't do that then he dies. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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getmoript
1016 Posts
On April 02 2014 05:07 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I just made a post about it. Or asked other people about it. You lynch the groups where you know mafia is and make the order based on reads after ~40 hours or so. If there are similar groups / a lot of unsureness you first pick the groups where there are players who are most likely not paying attention later on in the game (for example kush is never going to reread the thread, ever). But who gets to be the mayor does not matter. If you can explain to me why does it matter go ahead. ~rayn No I don't like your reasoning. I'm not saying you're wrong on what you've said (skimmed), but the stance: On April 02 2014 03:47 prplhz wrote: so maybe the mayor doesn't matter much Is a super odd stance for a towny to make. It's neither stating, "I don't fucking care who mayor is and I don't fucking care about the order" OR "I super care about who the mayor is and what the order is." I've seen and played in a number of odd games and I've taken a number of unique stances about things myself, but I don't think I've ever seen a stance that's so bland about it. Like that's a really, really weird way to approach this game and I'm not liking you right now for not picking up on this specifically. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On April 02 2014 05:09 raynpelikonoshi wrote: LSB the mayor decides the order for all the groups after 48 hours. Then, based on the order, the first group is up for lynch and D1 starts. ~rayn Yes I know, I agree that the first group should be done via reads at least. Possibly even the second. However I think it is pretty foolhardy to determine the order of five groups by reads based. It would be a much better bet to hedge for activity. | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
On April 02 2014 05:08 raynpelikonoshi wrote: geript why do you need to be a fucking dick? ~rayn I'm not trying to be. Maybe it's a language thing. You going to vote for me as mayor? | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On April 02 2014 05:12 getmoript wrote: No I don't like your reasoning. I'm not saying you're wrong on what you've said (skimmed), but the stance: Is a super odd stance for a towny to make. It's neither stating, "I don't fucking care who mayor is and I don't fucking care about the order" OR "I super care about who the mayor is and what the order is." I've seen and played in a number of odd games and I've taken a number of unique stances about things myself, but I don't think I've ever seen a stance that's so bland about it. Like that's a really, really weird way to approach this game and I'm not liking you right now for not picking up on this specifically. No. The point is this. The order is decided by the town. The mayor is nothing but a figurehead who submits the order decided by the town to Artanis. If the order differs we policy lynch the mayor. In this case it doesn't even matter who the mayor is. Heck it might even be the top scumread + Show Spoiler + Actually that's a risky idea, but can work in specific situations. For example if the top scumread is in a group with someone we'd liked to get confirmd | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 02 2014 05:02 getmoript wrote: So I've skimmed so far. Cell 1 Raynpelikonoshi--Very tempted to lynch because I can't read Koshi and I don't think Rayn has called me super town yet Gumshoe--solid player with alright reads generally but pretty obvious as scum Steveling--??? Cell 2 Holyflare-scum Tehpoofter--very good player, still adjusting to forum, low volume poster mderg--????? Cell 3 Palmar--strong player Sentinel--I don't really remember him much Coagulation--Policy lynch option, both lurkers Cell 4 Balla24--meh LSB--meh Alakaslam--likely scum Cell 5 Getmoript--clearly town, great at endgame, super stronk townie prplhz--decent player, generally low volume, scummy first post Cephiro--solid playler Rayn I'm having a hard time reading Koshi... Why wouldn't he push himself for mayor on D1/0 whatever it is today? Like Cell 2 is obviously the best first lynch. HF busses as scum and has ok reads as town. I'd love to policy lynch him and under no circumstances should he ever be allowed to mid-late game. Cell 3 should be the third lynch 100%. Palmar is someone who, for lack of a better lynch, we can lynch and then sheep his reads; I'm tempted to move this up to slot 2 because Palmer tends to get worse as time goes on. Cell 4 should probably be the second lynch though because they're mostly unreadable and I want to lynch Alakaslam so that makes that pretty easy. Cell 1 is clearly next because me and rayn usually click on things and in case town hasn't won by then me and Rayn should easily be able to finish it off or I'll hammer Rayn to win the game for town. 2->4->3->1->5 is clearly the best pattern and me/Cav should 100% be the mayor. Like it's obvious, I refuse to let anyone else be the mayor and will policy lynch anyone who goes against me as mayor. just wut why the frig you want the guy who busses as scum and has good reads as town to be out of the game as soon as possible? you want to just lynch palmar AND policy lynch someone else in his group. we can't lynch two people in the same group. who is Cav? also i'm running for mayor. not entire sure about the order yet so just whatever order i said in my earlier post. i think maybe my group should be last though because i don't think anyone in cell5 is going to be bullied around by anyone and we'll have a fair chance no matter what. other groups have dominant players (rayn/flare/palm) and cell4 i'm still very uncertain about. slam gonna vote himself or whatever. so 4 3 2 1 5 | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
On April 02 2014 05:12 getmoript wrote: No I don't like your reasoning. I'm not saying you're wrong on what you've said (skimmed), but the stance: Is a super odd stance for a towny to make. It's neither stating, "I don't fucking care who mayor is and I don't fucking care about the order" OR "I super care about who the mayor is and what the order is." I've seen and played in a number of odd games and I've taken a number of unique stances about things myself, but I don't think I've ever seen a stance that's so bland about it. Like that's a really, really weird way to approach this game and I'm not liking you right now for not picking up on this specifically. Why does prplhz's "stance" mean anything? That's not what i read. Or, it's what i read but what i read between the lines is "prplhz doesn't care about who the mayor is and if prplhz talks about mayor election or who should be the mayor much in this game he is probably scum because he didn't care about it". I agree it does not matter shit who the mayor is. So can you now explain why it matters and if you can't why are you talking about this shit? You are starting to annoy me. ~rayn | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On April 02 2014 05:12 getmoript wrote: No I don't like your reasoning. I'm not saying you're wrong on what you've said (skimmed), but the stance: Is a super odd stance for a towny to make. It's neither stating, "I don't fucking care who mayor is and I don't fucking care about the order" OR "I super care about who the mayor is and what the order is." I've seen and played in a number of odd games and I've taken a number of unique stances about things myself, but I don't think I've ever seen a stance that's so bland about it. Like that's a really, really weird way to approach this game and I'm not liking you right now for not picking up on this specifically. I don´t think it´s that odd of a stance for a towny. For me it´s pretty clear from his post that to him the mayor doesn´t matter but the cell order seems important to him, because the mayor can´t just stand against a huge majority. I also don´t think the mayor is important, as the majority decides who the mayor is the same way the mayority should decide the order of the cell votes. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
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getmoript
1016 Posts
On April 02 2014 05:07 raynpelikonoshi wrote: But who gets to be the mayor does not matter. If you can explain to me why does it matter go ahead. ~rayn I disagree. I want to be mayor because I want Holyflare out super early on. I don't trust him to play lategame because the groups are mostly 1 good player and 2 ok players. That moves to town loss super quickly. Plus, we should be voting town for mayor because they can give a reasonable assessment of who the "powerful scum" are that they want early. Low hanging fruit scum who are not likely to affect the game are fine to keep in until later on. I don't get why you'd want to trust players who aren't as good to decide your fate. I 100% think I can nail scum in the first two groups but I'm also realistic that there's a good chance for mislynching in those first two as well. | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
On April 02 2014 05:22 prplhz wrote: i think getmoript is acting a lot more confident in himself than he should be. can anyone tell me if he usually is like this? Yes we are. We are always like this. Confidence is not alignment indicative. What are you trying to get at here? | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 02 2014 05:24 getmoript wrote: Yes we are. We are always like this. Confidence is not alignment indicative. What are you trying to get at here? that i'm not very comfortable with you so far. it seems like an act that you're so sure of yourself. | ||
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
Reasoning: You don't policy lynch in this setup. You don't even think about it because you can read the other two people in the group and decide the lynch based on reads on those people. There is no way geript brings up some fluff like policy lynches as town. Not in this game. The post prplhz quoted is full of nothing, policies after policies. The post is nothing and says nothing useful. ~rayn | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
On April 02 2014 05:23 raynpelikonoshi wrote: fuck that geript post is bad. ~rayn We're going to have to rumble if you don't think I'm autotown. Like at first I thought Koshi was town for being excited to post then I wasn't sure because I don't know if Koshi would be excited to post as scum. Then you +1'd the bad prplhz post. Now you don't like my post. I'm seriously reconsidering moving your group up to first if you don't explain this. | ||
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