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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 05 2014 11:59 GMT
#2221
I'll read it later geript, I don't have time now.

I hope most of us can be around tonight.
Computer says mafia
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 05 2014 12:03 GMT
#2222
Video mafia for me likely.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 05 2014 12:06 GMT
#2223
On April 05 2014 20:59 Palmar wrote:
I'll read it later geript, I don't have time now.

I hope most of us can be around tonight.

Do you find it at least a little ironic and funny that previously I was all "Rayn is scum" and everyone was all "Getmoript is moron or scum" and now lots of people have flipped and now I'm calling Rayn town and some of the people calling me scum think a Rayn is/was scum. Maybe I'm just tired and need sleep but I find it a little funny.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 05 2014 12:15 GMT
#2224
On April 05 2014 21:06 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 20:59 Palmar wrote:
I'll read it later geript, I don't have time now.

I hope most of us can be around tonight.

Do you find it at least a little ironic and funny that previously I was all "Rayn is scum" and everyone was all "Getmoript is moron or scum" and now lots of people have flipped and now I'm calling Rayn town and some of the people calling me scum think a Rayn is/was scum. Maybe I'm just tired and need sleep but I find it a little funny.


Who did what you describe?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 05 2014 12:20 GMT
#2225
getmoript why would town gum be trying to get extremely friendly with multiple people, including those who are seeking his lynch?
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 05 2014 12:52 GMT
#2226
On April 05 2014 21:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
getmoript why would town gum be trying to get extremely friendly with multiple people, including those who are seeking his lynch?

Why would friendliness or assholeness have anything to do with alignment? If he's town, there's huge incentive to not fuck up and get himself lynched. If he's scum there's huge incentive to not fuck up and get himself lynched. I don't think that some normal scum tells, like self preservation apply in this game. Like we don't have the option to just flat out lynch like normal and there's huge pressure to not get lynched as every alignment because everyone knows their ass is going to be gone through with a fine toothed comb at some point. Hell I'd suggest a bribe of nude pics if I thought it might sway a vote onto someone I thought was scum (no pics would be sent in either case).
Plus I really think gumshoes game has been pretty similar to cultured. I think he like me has has a pretty bad game up to this point. Additionally, I think dick move analysis gives us gumshoe's alignment. Plus, in what I've read of gumshoe, I think he's tried to solve the game in his own way.

Plus, for having a filter that's as longer than mine, Steve has been forgettable. I remember and have thought about a few various prplhz posts despite him being not as prolific. The only things that instantly pop in my head are his weird posts after the "I Swear" incident that, correct me if I'm wrong, you thought were odd for how emotional he got after Rayn cleared Gum and how he has no realistic stance on Rayn or Gum. That type of action is far more telling to me than buddying/pocketing/emotional appeals/etc.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 05 2014 12:56 GMT
#2227
On April 05 2014 21:03 getmoript wrote:
Video mafia for me likely.

I might be down for video mafia tonight.
Computer says mafia
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 05 2014 13:06 GMT
#2228
On April 05 2014 21:56 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 21:03 getmoript wrote:
Video mafia for me likely.

I might be down for video mafia tonight.

Hey, I think I asked you this before but after reading prplhz filter and remembering your commenton prplhz's filtering post, which I actually get now, if you could make a few notes as to why you think prplhz is town otherwise that'd be swell. Like right now I'm thinking that Sent/Ceph/Steve ends the game in a town victory, but I still have a hard time getting past the really weird way prplhz opened (yes hypocritical in hindsight considering how apparently awful my second-ish post was).
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 05 2014 13:10 GMT
#2229
On April 05 2014 01:33 Palmar wrote:
Like I think cephiro is mafia by elimination. I haven't really read his text walls attentively, but prplhz is a pretty strong townread, I've pointed out at least one of the posts that make me think he has to be town.

Geript is a much harder case, but for the most part he doesn't look like scumript. I always call him out as mafia on day 1 when he is mafia, and I actually thought rayn's tunnel on him was wrong, I pointed out some flaws in rayn's case here:

Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 22:08 Palmar wrote:
On April 02 2014 21:46 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 02 2014 21:40 Palmar wrote:
Right now rayn, who would you lynch out of HF's group?

mderg. But we'll see him posting more. I have a townread on Holyflare and i am a bit unsure of poofer. I don't see anything particularly scummy from him but i don't know what Koshi is up to or we are not 100% on the same page with him on poofer. I tried to poke Koshi about it in our QT but he is at work so we'll talk more about it tonight.


I didn't like poofter's giant post on HF just to come back and say mderg is more likely scum. That's basically actively keeping options open which isn't really needed for town.

But yes, if this is all mderg has to offer we lynch him. Doesn't make HF's meta any more valid, even if he flips mafia


On April 02 2014 21:46 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
In the meantime, what's your take on this:
On April 02 2014 19:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 02 2014 14:35 getmoript wrote:
Rayn I have an important question for you. Koshi isn't allowed to answer. I want you to rate your #1 issue with me.
~g

I'll give the thread all the issues:

My #1 issue with you is your flip-flopping on your reads. At the start of the game you are sure Slam is scum. Very very reasonable. However when other people (mainly me) agree with it you start defending him. You should be even more sure of the read, even if you think i am mafia, because if i am mafia and i "incorrectly read" Slam's alignment there is a high chance that backfires on me. At the start of the game you say HF should be policy lynched because he is either right or bussing. Now you say HF is pushing town wrong direction. Contradiction. You don't comment on my reads. You just say you disagree with them for no reason, you just say i am wrong without telling me why i am wrong. + Cavalinho has no reads all he has talked about is some mayor crap.

My #2 issue with you is that your tone changes in ungeript-y manner. At the start of the game you say things. We disagree.. I call you scum. You yell at me and you tell the thread i am scum. Then you say more things. I say more things. You disagree with me again. However you are not aggressive any more. You don't comment on why you disagree with me on what we disagree. Instead you are defensive and passive. Normally as town geript, if he disagrees with someone, comes to a conclusion that person is mafia, or he voices his argument vocally and tries to convince the other person in a way or another. Here you just give up but you still disagree and noone even knows why.

My #3 issue with you is that you and Cavalinho are not on the same page in this game. Cavalinho has no idea why your reads are what they are and i find it incredibly unlike that would be the case if you were town. On top of that Cavalinho is scared to voice his opinions on everything that's going on in thread. The only thing he comments on is setup talk. He has no opinions on anything and he doesn't even know why you think what you do. It seems like you guys don't even talk about your reads with each other.

~rayn

????

~rayn

I don't really understand the first part of #1, the second part is a non-point because if you call that a contradiction no one can ever bring up the HF = bus/right thing and then disagree with him. It's actually really dumb to expect geript to consistently stay with that notion of holyflare and never question antyhing HF does because of it. You're pushing him to live up to what is probably a joke.

#3 is actually a good point, and if there was a way of testing it that'd be great. ie if we could somehow interrogate only the Cav head without him being funneled answers from the geript head. But I don't think we can so whatever.

#2 is just a meta read, and I'm not even sure I agree scum geript is passive, he was plenty mad at me in survivor.

Like I don't know, if this is geript mafia he's not playing like he played in survivor. He was much more cowboy-ish and less interactive in that game than he is now.

If it makes you feel any better about yourself (or how bad I've been this game), it took me reading your filter and remembering this post to realize why you're town.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 05 2014 13:38 GMT
#2230
Getmoript confirmed not reading the thread.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 05 2014 13:43 GMT
#2231
On April 05 2014 22:38 Steveling wrote:
Getmoript confirmed not reading the thread.

Ok let's pretend this is true. Does this make me scum?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 05 2014 13:46 GMT
#2232
I find it interesting how you asked this question above all.

I obviously meant that gumshoe basically scumclaimed all day yesterday.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 05 2014 13:50 GMT
#2233
1. Why is that interesting to you?

2. What's your basis for this claim(re: gum scum claiming)?

3. Why shouldn't I sheep Town Hero Rayn in his read that I scum claimed on day 1?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 05 2014 13:54 GMT
#2234
On April 05 2014 21:15 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 21:06 getmoript wrote:
On April 05 2014 20:59 Palmar wrote:
I'll read it later geript, I don't have time now.

I hope most of us can be around tonight.

Do you find it at least a little ironic and funny that previously I was all "Rayn is scum" and everyone was all "Getmoript is moron or scum" and now lots of people have flipped and now I'm calling Rayn town and some of the people calling me scum think a Rayn is/was scum. Maybe I'm just tired and need sleep but I find it a little funny.


Who did what you describe?


You totally ignored that, answer pls.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 05 2014 13:57 GMT
#2235
Gum flipped on him yet again. Poof was 50/50 on him in the least. I think another 1-2 had but I forget who. Now you answer my questions plz.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 05 2014 14:08 GMT
#2236
No that's that not an answer.
You said
lots of people
, explain.

If you are not bothered to play the game and read you should do something else with your time.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 05 2014 14:28 GMT
#2237
On April 05 2014 22:50 getmoript wrote:
1. Why is that interesting to you?

2. What's your basis for this claim(re: gum scum claiming)?

3. Why shouldn't I sheep Town Hero Rayn in his read that I scum claimed on day 1?

Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 05 2014 14:34 GMT
#2238
On April 05 2014 23:08 Steveling wrote:
No that's that not an answer.
You said
Show nested quote +
lots of people
, explain.

If you are not bothered to play the game and read you should do something else with your time.


The burden is on the prosecution to provide evidence, you have yet to make a case on me or elaborate beyond the point of "lol, he makes no sense therefore scum" this is extremely narrow of you, people think mafia is a game of reason and accusations, but far more so than that it was one of empathy. You have played a game where I made batshit arguments and no one listened to me right up until the end ( also because players like you as scum consitentley slandered everything I said, shall I dredge up those old filters Steve? )I was town of course / : this is your only experience playing with me, and yet this game you assert that I am scum for the same reason I was town in all my other games.

That said, it doesn't matter, I've solved the game. I went back to the drawing board and realized Palmer and holy aren't scum just because they are wrong on me, and everything else in their filters is fine anyways. No, I've found the one piece of evidence to put everything in perspective and no ones even mentioned it yet : D.

We lynch coag today.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 05 2014 14:41 GMT
#2239
I will explain it in one liners like I do towards my toddler nephew.
You made an argument, the "lots of people" thing.
I don't recall it being true thus asking you to prove it.
To which you answer with

On April 05 2014 23:34 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 23:08 Steveling wrote:
No that's that not an answer.
You said
lots of people
, explain.

If you are not bothered to play the game and read you should do something else with your time.


The burden is on the prosecution to provide evidence, you have yet to make a case on me


Getript, why are you so defensive, that's the 2nd time you assume I'm scumclaiming you.
What's wrong?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 05 2014 14:47 GMT
#2240
On April 05 2014 23:41 Steveling wrote:
I will explain it in one liners like I do towards my toddler nephew.
You made an argument, the "lots of people" thing.
I don't recall it being true thus asking you to prove it.
To which you answer with

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 23:34 gumshoe wrote:
On April 05 2014 23:08 Steveling wrote:
No that's that not an answer.
You said
lots of people
, explain.

If you are not bothered to play the game and read you should do something else with your time.


The burden is on the prosecution to provide evidence, you have yet to make a case on me


Getript, why are you so defensive, that's the 2nd time you assume I'm scumclaiming you.
What's wrong?


You will not convince anyone with angry one liners, the sooner you make a formal case on me, with all your arguments together, the better. If we are both town ( a possibility no one should rule out until holy starts making sense for once) this thread spam is killing the game. I'm not going to keep trading like this, it only benefits scum. So please, make your case, get it out of you system and realize I am playing no diffrent than that one we fought in ages ago.

Like im asking you as a human being here man, I'm trying to think how I can get through to you but your just putting up a huge wall to reinforce your bias ) :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
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