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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
April 03 2014 08:55 GMT
#1601
On April 03 2014 17:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
nice post man

thanks
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 03 2014 09:01 GMT
#1602
so does me voting for you make me super townie?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 03 2014 09:07 GMT
#1603
wtf toad. every one of your posts u are like.... "only dumbasses who havn't read the thread could think i'm maifa or maybe they are mafia...

but oh wait guys i haven't read the thread"

so how could you know that reading the thread would confirm you as town if you haven't read the thread?

do you know that gumshoe is confirmed medic and he saved amiko? so you you are not as confirmed as you would have us believe.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
April 03 2014 09:08 GMT
#1604
On April 03 2014 18:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
wtf toad. every one of your posts u are like.... "only dumbasses who havn't read the thread could think i'm maifa or maybe they are mafia...

but oh wait guys i haven't read the thread"

so how could you know that reading the thread would confirm you as town if you haven't read the thread?

do you know that gumshoe is confirmed medic and he saved amiko? so you you are not as confirmed as you would have us believe.

I'm not saying I'm confirmed, I'm saying there's no reason to consider me mafia or town because I'm not really playing the game and you're not listening. And no I didn't know that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 03 2014 09:11 GMT
#1605
so what are we to do with you?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 03 2014 09:13 GMT
#1606
HEY THREAD

toad is here! talk to him please!
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 03 2014 09:41 GMT
#1607
Vote Count

Toadesstern (2) - Djodref, thrawn2112
Vivax (1) - Tehpoofter
Djodref (1) - Alakaslam
kitaman27 (1) - JarJarDrinks
Hopeless1der (1) - Toadesstern


Not Voting (6) - lots of people


Currently Toadesstern is set to be lynched!


The lynch will happen in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 03 2014 11:07 GMT
#1608
On April 03 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey tehpoofter! are you around? did you get converted or something? why did you stop playing during D2



I'm around, sadly not converted as apparently we lost our shrink and doctor. That sucks gum played it like that with the name thing. I thought it was interesting kush can do the vote thing and shoot during the day that's a pretty strong town role imo. I think you pointed this out thrawn.

I think scum is somewhere between Vivax, Hopeless, Toad....
Vivax for reasons I've stated.

Toad because he's claiming to not have a vote that counts and he can't die at night that is like the tree stump role on epic mafia which is kinda useless and easy to claim as mafia (I have done it in video mafia on several occasions) cause you never have to explain why you're alive and you can no vote and absolve yourself of all responsibility. (I've been busy with work and other games so haven't had time to dive but have we confirmed Toad's vote doesn't count?)

Hopeless - I believe austin had a case on hopeless where he was around at day end voting on rayn after the claim saying it seemed fake without a cc. I was around then too and had been hard on rayn all day and wanted to get my vote off him to someone else (ended up on the doctor whoops) but still not on the claimed role.


Town for me is thrawn, kush, austin, amiko (tenatively cause of the heal and he seems to be piecing the game together)

Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 03 2014 11:09 GMT
#1609
@DJO, Kita hopeless toad Do you think gum got a save on amiko? or do you think something else occurred?


@austin you really think slam is going to flip town o.0?

@Slam RIP bro good playing with you!

@whoever gives out inventions: I want one!
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 03 2014 11:10 GMT
#1610
On April 03 2014 18:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 18:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
wtf toad. every one of your posts u are like.... "only dumbasses who havn't read the thread could think i'm maifa or maybe they are mafia...

but oh wait guys i haven't read the thread"

so how could you know that reading the thread would confirm you as town if you haven't read the thread?

do you know that gumshoe is confirmed medic and he saved amiko? so you you are not as confirmed as you would have us believe.

I'm not saying I'm confirmed, I'm saying there's no reason to consider me mafia or town because I'm not really playing the game and you're not listening. And no I didn't know that.



That really really bugs me. Why is not playing the game a town tell? I see not playing and I think mafia. I don't like this.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 03 2014 11:14 GMT
#1611
Anyways I'm out for the night. I will get up early to be around pre deadline. I'm okay with any of those on my scum list for lynches, preference to vivax.

Also @ austin the post you quoted with 4 I still am hardest on vivax, kush is clear I think cause his role with the extra vote and day shot would be insane op for Mafia, Kita I will get up and read on d2 actions and see if he makes the pile but just the brief thread read through nothign stood out. JJD has a nuke and I like what he was doing pressuring hopeless with the fake claim thing it seemed like a really brazen thing to do and not something you'd really want to do as mafia and I think hopeless acted poorly on it.

I know I haven't been around but I feel confident on this vivax lynch read my case, maybe kush will come out with a big case like he said in one of his posts but I don't like his posting patterns.

night
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
April 03 2014 11:16 GMT
#1612
On April 03 2014 20:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
@DJO, Kita hopeless toad Do you think gum got a save on amiko? or do you think something else occurred?


@austin you really think slam is going to flip town o.0?

@Slam RIP bro good playing with you!

@whoever gives out inventions: I want one!


I personally don't think that amiko was targeted, so he was not saved imo, but there could be plenty of reasons for which there was no NK (no KP for mafia, hitting a vet, forgetting the NK, anything really), so I don't think you should bother with that.

Toad, if you still around, I would like you to make a case on Hopeless. Otherwise your latest posts didn't impress me so I'm going to stay with my vote on you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 03 2014 11:56 GMT
#1613
On April 02 2014 06:09 Toadesstern wrote:
well I was untargetable last night, that's why


On April 03 2014 17:55 Toadesstern wrote:
also if there's people defending me you should probably take a look at that. I haven't really done anything scummy or townish this game so there shouldn't be a reason to call me mafia OR town on anything I've done in this game.

A new guy might come to the conclusion that lack of activity might be a trait either way when it's obviously not because I'm posting a lot more when I'm mafia than when I'm town but not everyone has played a lot of games with me considering I haven't played a lot in in the last 12 months or so.

So if there's someone telling you I'm looking townish based on my posts that might be a bullshit mafia trying to look good afterwards. The only real reason to defend me would be the fact that I there's shots missing n1 and the fact that I got protected.


Can you expand on the protection please?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 03 2014 12:13 GMT
#1614
On April 03 2014 09:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 09:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's what I'm getting @ w/ my line of questioning w/ hope. The way he words it sounds like he's saying everyone already received fakeclaims.
On April 03 2014 00:58 Hopeless1der wrote:
i.e. no, claiming doesnt prove anything, everyone has fakeclaims, everyone is probably blue.
Well I'm blue and I only received my role. I was not given any fakeclaim. Here he again seems to hint that he already has a fakeclaim:
On April 03 2014 08:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
Why are you pissing about with setup speculation JJD? Do you have a point here? Am I scum because I obviously have a fakeclaim that I wont reveal and you dont therefore you must be town? Stop beating around the bush.



I think he read this from the OP and assumed everyone was given fakeclaims to start the game.
On March 09 2014 14:50 Crossfire99 wrote:
Claiming:
Claiming your role is allowed, but you cannot claim when you got your role pm, who sent it to you, etc. Fake roleclaims are provided before the game and on request to all players no matter your alignment.


I dont hint that I have one, I hint that I knew THIS is exactly where you were going with this line of questioning. It is completely transparent, but trying to claim I dont have a fakeclaim after saying "everyone has fakeclaims" looks stupid, so I had to run "no comment". I should have said "everyone has access to fakeclaims", but I typed that in the moment to point out why rayn's claim is in no way a reliable piece of information.

Why couldn't you just answer me when I asked? Why did you wait untill this post to say that you didn't have a fake-claim?

You could have been like "No, but we all have access to fakeclaims." Refusing to answer untill afetr I point out that blues weren't given fakeclaims sounds like you didn't know untill I said it.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
April 03 2014 12:26 GMT
#1615
On April 03 2014 20:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 06:09 Toadesstern wrote:
well I was untargetable last night, that's why


Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 17:55 Toadesstern wrote:
also if there's people defending me you should probably take a look at that. I haven't really done anything scummy or townish this game so there shouldn't be a reason to call me mafia OR town on anything I've done in this game.

A new guy might come to the conclusion that lack of activity might be a trait either way when it's obviously not because I'm posting a lot more when I'm mafia than when I'm town but not everyone has played a lot of games with me considering I haven't played a lot in in the last 12 months or so.

So if there's someone telling you I'm looking townish based on my posts that might be a bullshit mafia trying to look good afterwards. The only real reason to defend me would be the fact that I there's shots missing n1 and the fact that I got protected.


Can you expand on the protection please?

Protection in the sense as I in I couldn't be targeted, I told you I'm not going to claim more about the role, sory.

On April 03 2014 20:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 18:08 Toadesstern wrote:
On April 03 2014 18:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
wtf toad. every one of your posts u are like.... "only dumbasses who havn't read the thread could think i'm maifa or maybe they are mafia...

but oh wait guys i haven't read the thread"

so how could you know that reading the thread would confirm you as town if you haven't read the thread?

do you know that gumshoe is confirmed medic and he saved amiko? so you you are not as confirmed as you would have us believe.

I'm not saying I'm confirmed, I'm saying there's no reason to consider me mafia or town because I'm not really playing the game and you're not listening. And no I didn't know that.



That really really bugs me. Why is not playing the game a town tell? I see not playing and I think mafia. I don't like this.

Why is noone reading what I'm saying... I made the important part red in the stuff you quoted, look it up...
I'm telling you it's neither a towntell nor a mafiatell and you're making it sound like I'm teling people I'm town for it.

I mean it might be a towntell for me but I'm not bringing it up because I'm good enough to fake that so you should consider it a null. If I'm not playing I don't have time to play as either alignment. If I have time to play I post as much as gonzaw, as either alignment, as can be seen in LI (I think all three of Gonzaw, VE and me had an about 20 page filter just for d1. VE and me being mafia) or in the most recent game I had as mafia where Marv told me he was crazy impressed with the amount of effort I put in the game... but than again I have to be in the mood for it and I have games where I post as little as when I'm town as well, which is the reason I'm telling you it's not a tell at all.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 03 2014 14:12 GMT
#1616
On April 03 2014 17:51 Toadesstern wrote:
yeah sorry guys I don't really have the time to read this week...

Did someone claim being shot and protected besides me? Because with no kills on n1 I don't even know why someone would
consider lynching me right now despite not playing the game.

Reads haven't really changed for me, still the same, add in whoever gave that nuke to JarJar because he didn't give it to someone like Kita / hopeless / austin / myself, which makes it highly likely that the intention of the nuke was to just get someone nuked instead of an aimed hit.
Looked a lot like a gundealer giving a gun to some new guy / some guy with wrong reads so that they shoot a townie instead of someone from team mafia having to dirty their hands. If someone claimed giving that nuke away, that guy probably should be lynched.

I have to vote today as well so I'll put it on hopeless, still want him dead
##vote hopeless


Might wanna lynch Toad now cause he drops in saying he wants to lynch hope without giving a single reason as to why he's scum, and on top of that knowing his vote doesn't even count.

You can say you're busy all you want but if you spend your time talking about not-your-scumread then I see that as not caring much about the game which is a rather not-town trait.

I have extensively questioned hopeless, need your updated opinion on the exchange, JJD and me both raised up multiple points. How do you agree/disagree with them?
Need any reason for you to still think hopeless is scum. Something conclusive for you to leave with your not-vote.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 03 2014 14:17 GMT
#1617
Likely townie
Amiko
kush
Djo
thrawn2112
austinmcc

Nullish, but probably wouldn't consider lynching
Toad - I remember back in shadow being spooked by one of his posts that was something along the lines of "I'm here if anyone has any questions for me". This game he seems to be having a similar, post if called upon attitude, but not to the point where I'd call him mafia. I'm somewhat paranoid that austin or toad would be the best conversation targets, but that opens up a can of worms that I don't want to think about really until endgame. Toad's post about untargetability makes me feel better since it lines up with his dt check post, which would make a conversion target less likely assuming he is telling the truth.

JarJarDrinks - Thought he was townie d1 for the most part, but chose to nuke a third party claim, rather than his number one scum suspect, which comes off scummy, regardless of the fact that I'm town. Need to decide if he chose to nuke slam because he was afraid of the consequences of flipping me or if he actually believes that I'm a better lynch target than shot.

Tehpoofter - Haven't had many issues with him, but unlike the top group, there isn't anything that I can point to and tell myself that it likely makes him townie. Want more time on him.

People I'd consider lynching
Hopeless1der
Vivax

I really don't like that Toad has the most votes right now and that two of my town reads are voting for him. The fact that nobody is really pushing a target strongly is a concern as well. My next two posts will be about hope and vivax and the things I am concerned about. I tried reading both their filters from the perspective that they are buddies and it didn't really fit, so if I had to guess, it would be one, but not the other. Need to decide which one I prefer still. Would like opinions on these two if you haven't talked about them already.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 03 2014 14:20 GMT
#1618
On April 03 2014 20:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
@DJO, Kita hopeless toad Do you think gum got a save on amiko? or do you think something else occurred?


It's possible, I thought he looked pretty townie on day one and might be a good avoid the medic shot. Him or toad who claimed untargetable would be my best guess, assuming mafia had kp on n1, which isn't a given in a recruiter setup.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 03 2014 14:20 GMT
#1619
Start by writing about me kita cause I wanna gun the shit you will write down so fast you won't even hit F5
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 03 2014 14:22 GMT
#1620
lol ok. Did you move to Austria by the way? I thought you had your country as Italy in the past, but maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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