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austinmcc
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thrawn2112
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austinmcc
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The whole lurky thing doesn't scream scumtoad to me, but it doesn't not-fit. Anyone semi-prominent that starts as scum in a conversion game needs to NOT do the sort of stuff toad normally does as scum (we're not gonna talk about shadow game), because they need to not get got early on. Doesn't mean he's scum, but it's not inconsistent with how scum toad might play. Can add him to my list of peeps to read right now. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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thrawn2112
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austinmcc
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On April 01 2014 18:08 Tehpoofter wrote: This is the one thing that stands out. His scum is Vivax > Kita > Kush > JJD.Town: Thrawn - He seems to be actually taken a back by the fact that he is only finding town, scum needs mislynches so if hes scum hes playing against his win con. Austin - I think his case and the way he fought it was townie. He also had the same line of thinking as me that we shouldn't just lynch SLAM and should try to find real scum sadly he didn't find any scum but neither did I For scum: I want to look at vivax, kita, kush and JJD the most. I don't think they are all four scum but I think there is definitely a scum in there. Vivax for the reason that he tried to bury rayn and then voted slam... like he buries a town and gets off the wagon good lay low scum play imo. Kita: He puhsed on rayn and didn't really seem to listen to his responses during his push if you will note the difference between him and me pushing our cases on rayn I was not really sure and uncertain about if he was scum and austin pointed it out on my case I feel like being sure is more scummy than townie cause I'm trying to figure it out and kita in this case would just need a ML also I pointed out earlier my theory on the vote count thing possibly being from him. Kush: He is here because my town read thrawn wants to know whats up with you. JJD: He says that kita scum slipped calling me and him town maybe he did and kita is scum but it counts against JJD here because I'm in no way confirmed so how does he know I'm town? I mean maybe he read me as town but I didn't see that in his read... I'm going to read his filter after this and see if I missed him calling me town before that but I don't recall it. I ranked my scum and town in order of strongest to weakest. He's been actively questioning folks and talking, and was concerning with Vivax, but I don't see much from him on Kita and kush. This is also after swapping over to gumshoe D1, when gumshoe hasn't done anything more, but now has dropped off the scum list. Just feels mildly off for the list, but is explainable by things like gumshoe being a good vote for doing nothing, not for doing scummy things outright, and the list itself says why kush is on there. It's also MILDLY odd that one thing JJD has done that Poofter doesn't like is call out kita for a "scumslip" that JJD doesn't think happened. If Kita is high on the scum list, and JJD is scummy in part for scummily calling out Kita, then JJD is unlikely scum calling out scumbuddy. AGAIN NOT PARTICULARLY RELEVANT BECAUSE IT'S A LIST WE CAN ASSUME NOT 4 MAFIA SO FOR JJD TO BE MAFIA THE OTHER 3 WOULDN'T ALL BE MAFIA, BLAH BLAH. Whatever, haven't changed mind. Things overall are townie from poofter, I'm good with poofter as town. #townsquawk | ||
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Amiko
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--------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- @Djodref - Regarding your post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445571-doctor-who-mafia-2?page=75#1498 on Toad: There's basically two things. Toad pushing Hopeless1der: I feel alright with seeing Toad as suspicious for not pushing a lynch on Hopeless1der, but I also felt like hopeless leaned scummy when I reread him the other day. So, I at least agree with one of Toad's reads (but to a lesser extent) which makes me less eager to lynch him. Regarding him not playing: This is a little compelling. I feel better about lynching a likely 3p than a lurker on d1, but I feel it becomes riskier as the game progresses. Currently I would prefer lynching hopeless to lynching toad but they both seem like good options to me right now. I want to see kita a little more (it looks like he is posting now) but I don't think kita would be my lynch today. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- @austinmcc: I will be around a little bit tonight but need to start reading another game, so I will be glad to chat with you! But expect some long pauses between posts. Also- On April 03 2014 11:28 austinmcc wrote: I think he's misrepresenting some things, but arguing consistently, and if he was mafia trying to get a kita mislynch, he SHOULD be throwing in that rayn wanted kita dead and kita was a big factor in lynching rayn. Not always, and that bit assumes that kita would be town and this wouldn't be rando-bus in a partial/wholly conversion game. But I think it's a legit point. The manner in which he's pushing kita does not align with how, in my head, a mafia player would be pushing Kita. This point was pretty compelling to me. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- On April 03 2014 12:08 JarJarDrinks wrote: Pretty sure toad is modconfirmed town. There'd be nothing to discuss after the game if he was just scum lying. For the record I don't think this is correct. At least, I have a video mafia game where a mafia player said he realized someone was town due to out of game information and couldn't say why, people basically the mafia player after that. It led to some discussion after the game. So, to me Toad can be mafia just as easily. Either way, I think we should talk about it after the game. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On April 03 2014 10:00 kitaman27 wrote: First off, at the point where I mentioned that I preferred hopeless vs slam, I thought exactly that. hopeless seemed worse to me than rayn at the moment. It wasn't to say that I thought rayn was town at that point, but I didn't have a strong opinion. I probably hadn't even read his filter by then. What you have to keep in mind is that there was a 14 hour gap between the time I made that comment and the time that I decided that rayn was mafia. While rayn did refuse to do the research by the time of the first post, he hadn't really expressed a strong mafia read on me other than that the web was strange to him. Even in his list post, I wasn't a scum suspect to him. At that point, if he didn't think I was mafia and wanted to use his time elsewhere, so be it. I don't know how you can say that you weren't interested in rayn @ that point. You had already seen rayn start to attack you and according to your post, you then started pushing him to check your previous game. Like you purposefully set your trap and see it @ least begin to work. How do u just ignore it @ this point? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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##Nuke Alakaslam cause it's the correct play | ||
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austinmcc
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On April 03 2014 12:20 Amiko wrote: @austinmcc: I will be around a little bit tonight but need to start reading another game, so I will be glad to chat with you! But expect some long pauses between posts. This point was pretty compelling to me.[/QUOTE]If this game were a zoo, and every player in the game were an animal (and the zoo had these specific animals): Who would be a tiger? Who would be a flamingo, or fake flamingo? Who would be a monkey, and please specify whether a monkey species that flings feces or no? (This is actually a real set of questions) | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:20 Amiko wrote: hopeless is my 2nd choice. I don't think toad is a good lynch @ all.Currently I would prefer lynching hopeless to lynching toad but they both seem like good options to me right now. | ||
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austinmcc
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This reads townie to me, for one of those strange, not quite explainable reasons: On March 30 2014 06:25 Hopeless1der wrote: Just a quick, dumb response to kita. It's 7 friggin' words but it reads like just an off-the-cuff, response doing mildly townie things - not wanting to start fights, wanting to know reasons for votes. I don't feel super great on this one like I've felt about dumb things in the past, though.because the alternative means i need to be a dick to kita and i dont wanna do that right now. On April 01 2014 05:31 Hopeless1der wrote: I dislike this. A lot. Rayn has claimed. Hopeless is voting rayn. Hopeless seems to know what a shrink is. From rayn's claim until lynch, hopeless posts a grand total of.....................just this.i think rayn meant a mafia-game shrink, like a doctor against conversions i.e. "I am lynching this guy, and he just claimed shrink, and I know what that means. I am reading the thread, but I am not commenting on ANYTHING. Plus i know that the guy I'm trying to lynch just claimed a VERY SPECIFIC role that makes some sense in a conversion game but we weren't 100000% sure this was a conversion game or had shrinks in it, and I'm not going to say anything about that and I will not appear to have any doubts about his lynch, despite him claiming a very particular role and me understanding what that means." Really doesn't sit well, when I look back at it. If he's reading, and he sees that claim, SOMETHING should happen. Not radio silence. Not a casual response, he's in the thread, he's reading the posts, because he saw the conversation about the Master and shrinkage. I really really don't like that. It feels like not the right response, and not the right actions. Where right = townie. He later says this just recently to Vivax- On April 03 2014 02:30 Hopeless1der wrote: But ... still. A townie who sees that claim and understands that claim SHOULD say something? Right? Rayn could fake claim, could be real claiming, but hopeless seems to have 0 interest in the claim, despite being around. Even just saying "Could be fake claim, nice try, die rayn die" would sit better with me.- rayn could fakeclaim. I thought rayn was scum. I continued believing rayn could be scum and left my vote accordingly. MIXED. UNSURE. SCUMMIER THAN PREVIOUS. REALLY DON'T LIKE HIS LAST 30 MINUTES OF D1. On April 02 2014 06:42 Hopeless1der wrote: Boo/interested. hopeless, why were you more inclined to mass claim at this point? (This was 40 minutes after the lynch)Where did we leave things with a mass claim? I'm going to go filter dive a bunch of peoples in the meantime. I'm more inclined to mass claim now. Also, would be interested in your response to kita re: kush. You recognize you shouldn't OMGUS him, so just ... don't. But you can still read someone without OMGUSing. | ||
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Amiko
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Who would be a tiger? Who would be a flamingo, or fake flamingo? Who would be a monkey, and please specify whether a monkey species that flings feces or no? (This is actually a real set of questions) [/QUOTE] I'll answer you as best I can, but I have to be a little silly with these questions. Tiger + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Ha9gth1.png) The noble tiger. It is fearless and strong, a ruthless predator. I think kitaman27 is a tiger, though perhaps he would not be confined to a zoo. Kita appears to confidently defend himself while pushing reads, and I feel he contributed to our first blood. Flamingo + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QGuqP5L.jpg) (It's supposed to be a flamingo dragon) The pink flamingo. Something about it seems awkward and difficult to understand. But undeniably it's bright colors draws attention. Alakaslam is the flamingo. He stands out due to his unusual claim d1 and his odd playstyle. It's difficult to determine his motives. I guess we haven't focused him too much d1, but I still think the comparison is pretty good. Monkey + Show Spoiler + I can't think of a particularly appropriate answer and monkey pictures seem overused... I guess I could argue that Slam is a poop-flinger because he spammed somewhat, but I don't feel like it really detracted from the conversation all that much. | ||
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austinmcc
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On April 01 2014 00:02 Hopeless1der wrote: Hopeless's last post before claimp.s. rayn revoted kita On April 01 2014 05:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: A few facts. 1) kitaman is mafia. 2) austin is mafia because he devoted all his day in talking nonsense, ending up his vote on a guy who he never tried to get lynched. He doesn't even think i am mafia yet he does nothing to get his lynch through. Also he defend a third faction. rofl. 3) this town is terrible and i am happy i am not in the game in ~40min. noone in this town has balls to stand behind their townreads. noone is this town has balls to fucking push their scumread. Noone in this town has fucking balls to do anything other than lurk or talk shit. 4) town deserves to lose. 5) Good job retards you killed your shrink. Claim, 37 minutes to lynch On April 01 2014 05:31 Hopeless1der wrote: Hopeless saw the claim 8 min ago, saw the discussion about the master, has been reading thread/is around. We are ~30 minutes to lynch here.i think rayn meant a mafia-game shrink, like a doctor against conversions On April 02 2014 06:42 Hopeless1der wrote: Hopeless's next post. 1:10 later, 40 minutes after lynchWhere did we leave things with a mass claim? I'm going to go filter dive a bunch of peoples in the meantime. I'm more inclined to mass claim now. | ||
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Amiko
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austinmcc
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If nobody in thread cops to making that, I vote we pause this game temporarily until we can dispense sweet sweet avian justice. | ||
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