EPTI don't know if these questions will be meaningful but I'll ask you to see where it goes-
Who would be a:
a) Hippo?
b) Panda?
(also if you want to be a flamingo as bird god I can accept that)
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
I don't know if these questions will be meaningful but I'll ask you to see where it goes- Who would be a: a) Hippo? b) Panda? (also if you want to be a flamingo as bird god I can accept that) | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
rayn flipped town and wanted us to mass claim, so he thought it was a good idea. It worked out in handslaps PYP, though that was semi-open. btw that was shortly after Day2 started, not the lynch. And for the record I'm still FOR a mass claim if we can agree to it. Re: Shrink Claim In my defense, everyone else just kind of brushed it off and went along about their business the same as me. No one panicked and yelled OMG Y U LYNCH DOCTOR?! and I wanted rayn lynched...why would I draw attention to that fact? In hindsight yes this may make me look scummier but I had a scumread and felt that pointing out that the claim could be fake would cause people to scrutinize it and possibly swap over to gumshoe or slam, contrary to my preference. Re: response to kita -> kush 1-I think you mean Vivax 2-I found Vivax to be asking a lot of questions and refusing to put up his own discussion. Since the game opened I feel like he's been casually painting me scum, but someone (maybe you or thrawn) said that the fact that he's doing stuff instead of not doing stuff probably points to him being town, so I kind of disregarded him. However i think his questions are really open-ended and basically kush hits things pretty square with this conversation: On April 03 2014 10:57 Vivax wrote: Cause the question like it is doesn't say anything about what kita thinks or what he wants to achieve with it? On April 03 2014 11:01 kushm4sta wrote: ah.. kind of like all of your questions that you have been constantly asking this entire game It feels like Vivax is just quoting stuff and asking different people "and how does that make you feel?" like he's some glorified therapist. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Hippo answer is convoluted. They're super dangerous and mean, kill a good number of people every year. IF we've got someone making multiple nukes, adding KP to the board, that person is the hippo. I hope it's a town hippo, and scum are the farmers who get too close to the riverbank, but we shall see. Also, I would be a terrible person if I didn't link this - + Show Spoiler + Pandas are kush and thrawn. Pandas are generally lazy and slow, but they're still bigass bears and can be dangerous. I imagine kush as high a bunch of the time when he's playing, much like a bamboo-eating panda just lounging around. But if you claim his role, he'll shoot you in the face, showing he's still a dangerous bear, despite lounging around stoned a lot. Thrawn gets to be a panda only because for VERY LITTLE REASON WHATSOEVER, I kind of think of him as the sort of person that would make a good conversion. Townie but not SUPER visible, and a good player. Toad's thought on who he would convert was interesting, and I agree that kita makes a nice conversion if he were town, but kita was kind of high profile and I'm not sure that, as scum, I want to grab him on the off chance that he gets blowed up today. He had some people thinking they might want to lynch him, and there's a 50% chance that rayn is in the obs thread right now calling us all terrible for not lynching kita like he wanted people to do after he died. People who might get lynched on D2 are bad N1 conversions, so scum probably doesn't look to kita, and thrawn just feels somehow like the kinda guy that makes a nice conversion. | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
I didn't mean much by the comment except to express he is kinda scary. But! I can offer a post-hoc thematically appropriate explanation, which I do think is fair: I feel like I would expect Kita to be more on the defensive d2 given rayn's certain scum read followed by a town flip. In other words, kita should be feeling high pressure. But I don't think the pressure on kita has been all that strong (with some exceptions... JJD put some pressure earlier on him regarding the nuke, kita's had to explain some reads, you are following up with some now... but it still doesn't feel like he is in much danger to me right now). In other words, maybe kita should be constrained by the thread sentiment, but it doesn't seem like he is. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On April 03 2014 13:18 austinmcc wrote: For the main thing there above, here is the timing so people don't have to go hunting. Hopeless's last post before claim Claim, 37 minutes to lynch Hopeless saw the claim 8 min ago, saw the discussion about the master, has been reading thread/is around. We are ~30 minutes to lynch here. Hopeless's next post. 1:10 later, 40 minutes after lynch Uhh April Fools? Thats 25:10 later | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On April 03 2014 13:30 Hopeless1der wrote: rayn loves wanting to do anti-town crap, and all his plans are guaranteed anti-town. 100%.Re: Massclaim rayn flipped town and wanted us to mass claim, so he thought it was a good idea. It worked out in handslaps PYP, though that was semi-open. btw that was shortly after Day2 started, not the lynch. And for the record I'm still FOR a mass claim if we can agree to it. Re: Shrink Claim In my defense, everyone else just kind of brushed it off and went along about their business the same as me. No one panicked and yelled OMG Y U LYNCH DOCTOR?! and I wanted rayn lynched...why would I draw attention to that fact? In hindsight yes this may make me look scummier but I had a scumread and felt that pointing out that the claim could be fake would cause people to scrutinize it and possibly swap over to gumshoe or slam, contrary to my preference. Re: response to kita -> kush 1-I think you mean Vivax 2-I found Vivax to be asking a lot of questions and refusing to put up his own discussion. Since the game opened I feel like he's been casually painting me scum, but someone (maybe you or thrawn) said that the fact that he's doing stuff instead of not doing stuff probably points to him being town, so I kind of disregarded him. However i think his questions are really open-ended and basically kush hits things pretty square with this conversation: It feels like Vivax is just quoting stuff and asking different people "and how does that make you feel?" like he's some glorified therapist. you think a mass claim is viable when everyone has fakeclaims available? How do you see VTs/blues/scum playing out a mass claim? As far as the shrink, yeah, people didn't comment enough. I looked up what a shrink was and then failed to comment but also got pulled away, it's curious all around. You stick out though because you appear to be reading but not participating at all, not mentioning the claim really or anything else. When there's some discussion of moving things off rayn and onto gumshoe, you don't tell people to stay or ... anything. It feels like you're just watching and not doing. I did mean Vivax on that last bit, yup. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On April 03 2014 13:30 Hopeless1der wrote: Days are hard, yo. I can't play mafia AND be expected to know the difference between 1 and 2.+ Show Spoiler + On April 03 2014 13:18 austinmcc wrote: For the main thing there above, here is the timing so people don't have to go hunting. Hopeless's last post before claim Claim, 37 minutes to lynch Hopeless saw the claim 8 min ago, saw the discussion about the master, has been reading thread/is around. We are ~30 minutes to lynch here. Hopeless's next post. 1:10 later, 40 minutes after lynch Uhh April Fools? Thats 25:10 later hopeless is right, the mass claim comment is way after and it's D2 and I am bad at numbers less than 3 and should feel bad. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
Like if he's scum then he risks me firing it @ him. But maybe he takes the risk knowing that I already have 2 people that I reallly want to kill. If he's town and truly believes I'm scum that has the nuke then it really makes no sense for him to push me untill after I fire it. Like why would he try to get me lynched @ that point knowing that if I get in vote trouble I'd fire it @ town. If he really suspected me as scum, I'd think he'd keep it to himself untill after. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
I'm going to bed, 'night. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On April 03 2014 13:37 JarJarDrinks wrote: Knowing that you were okay with nuking slam, I don't think it says much at all. You're not untouchable today just because someone gave you a nuke, and you're UNLIKELY to just snap nuke someone for calling you out.I'm trying to figure out if hopeless going after me (Knowing I had a nuke and hadn't used it yet) is more scummy or townie. It's a pretty bad play for either. Like if he's scum then he risks me firing it @ him. But maybe he takes the risk knowing that I already have 2 people that I reallly want to kill. If he's town and truly believes I'm scum that has the nuke then it really makes no sense for him to push me untill after I fire it. Like why would he try to get me lynched @ that point knowing that if I get in vote trouble I'd fire it @ town. If he really suspected me as scum, I'd think he'd keep it to himself untill after. Plus in your town hopeless and scum JJD situation, YOU ARE SCUM AND YOU HAVE A NUKE. There's no reason to wait if he legitimately thinks you're scummy, he's town and he's scumhunting. I don't see why a townie would wait to call you scummy until you'd fired a nuke at someone, in any situation where they found you scummy for non-nuke-firing reasons. All in all I think it says nuttin' about nuttin'. Just one Bird God's opinion. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Amiko is order of business #1 for me tomorrow. Toad/hopeless and chatter is #2-x. | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
Toadesstern (2) - Djodref, thrawn2112 Vivax (1) - Tehpoofter kitaman27 (1) - JarJarDrinks Djodref (1) - Alakaslam Not Voting (7) - lots of people Currently Toadesstern is set to be lynched! The lynch will happen in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DY6QfPc.png) You might want to get a bit more active and stance take-y. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
If we have someone that can make more than nukes, and that person is town, I think you should not make KP. Anything that's anti-conversion or checky is good. One other option, if we've got someone that can make stuff, is some kind of alarm system. Something you or another person could place on folks at night, and it triggers if that player ever changes factions. Might take some discussion with hosts to balance, but something like that let's us identify people that get converted and WHEN it happens, which is particularly useful for seeing if they have any strategic read changes after swapping factions (would have to wait like 24-36 hours before revealing that someone had triggered an alarm, and then parse through what they'd posted earlier in the day). | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
On April 03 2014 14:46 austinmcc wrote: Again, completely asleep, but random thought. If we have someone that can make more than nukes, and that person is town, I think you should not make KP. Anything that's anti-conversion or checky is good. One other option, if we've got someone that can make stuff, is some kind of alarm system. Something you or another person could place on folks at night, and it triggers if that player ever changes factions. Might take some discussion with hosts to balance, but something like that let's us identify people that get converted and WHEN it happens, which is particularly useful for seeing if they have any strategic read changes after swapping factions (would have to wait like 24-36 hours before revealing that someone had triggered an alarm, and then parse through what they'd posted earlier in the day). I don't know how item creation works but if you can do something like that, I think I agree it would be better than making KP. I also had an interesting thought which I am emailing to myself regarding new item announcements on day 3. If you are town, do me a favor and remind me to post that idea during n2 since I don't wanna discuss it until then. I'll probably remember but I'm tired so maybe not. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Did someone claim being shot and protected besides me? Because with no kills on n1 I don't even know why someone would consider lynching me right now despite not playing the game. Reads haven't really changed for me, still the same, add in whoever gave that nuke to JarJar because he didn't give it to someone like Kita / hopeless / austin / myself, which makes it highly likely that the intention of the nuke was to just get someone nuked instead of an aimed hit. Looked a lot like a gundealer giving a gun to some new guy / some guy with wrong reads so that they shoot a townie instead of someone from team mafia having to dirty their hands. If someone claimed giving that nuke away, that guy probably should be lynched. I have to vote today as well so I'll put it on hopeless, still want him dead ##vote hopeless | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
A new guy might come to the conclusion that lack of activity might be a trait either way when it's obviously not because I'm posting a lot more when I'm mafia than when I'm town but not everyone has played a lot of games with me considering I haven't played a lot in in the last 12 months or so. So if there's someone telling you I'm looking townish based on my posts that might be a bullshit mafia trying to look good afterwards. The only real reason to defend me would be the fact that I there's shots missing n1 and the fact that I got protected. | ||
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