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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
"Why is it reasonable that for Day2 its reasonable to consider poof for scum but Day3 poof's Day1 play trumps everything else?" D2 it's reasonable to for me to ignore my D1 town read on tehpoofter because this game has conversion mechanics and tehpoofter's activity and usefulness dropped off almost right at the start ofD2. This cycle, everything is pointing to 1 original scum remaining, so now I can take my d1 read into account. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
I just wrote 2/3 of a big post about you going kita town --> i dunno about kita --> thanks for nuking kita so I didn't have to have a read, as well as "hopeless for original scum, poofter for conversion, let's nuke the conversion" which is the opposite of how I've been thinking (get rid of original scum first, because we KNOW they're going to have scummy powers/be the converters). I dunno. You're playing a pretty solid game if you're mafia. There are little things that keep bugging me, but nothing large like kush's posts, and nothing that really weaves together into a scummy tapestry. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
I think hopeless raises three points- re: poofter In the first colored paragraph he quotes, you are saying that you didn’t really get a town read from poofter (there were just traces). In the second (uncolored) paragraph, you repeat a similar sentiment The next two paragraphs are saying that you had a townread on poofter from D1. In other words, I think hopeless’ case on this point is that you are inconsistent with regard to your reads on poofter – you said you saw him town from d1, but your posts reflect you were unsure. @thrawn2112: I don’t really know how significant that point is to me, but if you have a response or want to clarify, go for it. Delays in asking about Doublevote: I don’t feel this is worth talking about, sorry hopeless. I don’t know, I randomly think of things that happened days ago in the thread and ask about them. Conspiracy Theory: I think hopeless is saying thrawn shouldn’t question the use of the scumchecker because town (including him) pushed for checking kita. I don’t find this point compelling only because we can’t tell thrawn’s motives. If he was criticizing the check as a mistake that’d be one thing, but instead it feels like maybe he’s just trying to get information. I don’t know, so I am not putting too much weight into it. Austin I think Austin is playing a little weaker today but it isn’t something worth focusing on beyond this comment. Did you notice he has not #squawked at all since the day started? Anyway I put that in red but I'm mostly kidding... it just doesn't matter right now. We are looking for a scum who has been here since d1, and I don’t think that’s Austin, so if the game doesn’t end after this day phase, we can see what song he sings tomorrow. About tehpoofter- I dunno, I don’t feel that poofter was as towny as you both indicate on D1. But I guess it doesn’t matter to me as much because looking back at his posts with knowledge of kita/kush, he doesn’t look scummy now. @hopeless1der: What did you think of tehpoofter's day 1? @tehpoofter: I understand you may be sick, but I'd encourage you to try to weigh in when you can since you've been absent. At least make sure to vote since if you get modkilled it may make you/us lose. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On April 09 2014 12:12 Amiko wrote: Hopeless comments on Thrawn I think hopeless raises three points- re: poofter In the first colored paragraph he quotes, you are saying that you didn’t really get a town read from poofter (there were just traces). In the second (uncolored) paragraph, you repeat a similar sentiment The next two paragraphs are saying that you had a townread on poofter from D1. In other words, I think hopeless’ case on this point is that you are inconsistent with regard to your reads on poofter – you said you saw him town from d1, but your posts reflect you were unsure. @thrawn2112: I don’t really know how significant that point is to me, but if you have a response or want to clarify, go for it. Delays in asking about Doublevote: I don’t feel this is worth talking about, sorry hopeless. I don’t know, I randomly think of things that happened days ago in the thread and ask about them. Conspiracy Theory: I think hopeless is saying thrawn shouldn’t question the use of the scumchecker because town (including him) pushed for checking kita. I don’t find this point compelling only because we can’t tell thrawn’s motives. If he was criticizing the check as a mistake that’d be one thing, but instead it feels like maybe he’s just trying to get information. I don’t know, so I am not putting too much weight into it. The first colored thing. I was saying that the first time I played with tehpoofter (in a different game) I got a super strong new player town vibe from him. I said that I didn't get the exact same vibe this game, but a similar one. Then I explained how it was different and conlcuded that the difference probably means he's town. There's no contradiction there? Me saying that I didn't get the exact same vibe from him this game is not me saying I don't find him townie. I think that's the contradiction hopeless is going for and it's not a contradiction at all. The whole point of everything I said in that post was to explain why I thought tehpoofter was town. Hopeless is forcing a contradiction where there isn't one. The reason I asked kush why he checked kita is because it made no sense for kush to check kita based on kush's game long kita town read. I talked about this in my case on kush during the last cycle. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
##vote: Hopeless1der Amiko trying to figure out the game. thrawn trying to figure out the game. Both a little paranoid about me when scum likely needs a mislynch and needs maximum support, needs friends. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
His D1 was the one I didn't like, it was his N1/D2 that pulled me around. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
I think it is a inconsistent because your later post says you immediately recognized him as town, but the earlier posts indicate some doubt. I'm not sure that it is a significant enough inconsistency that I think you are lying, though, and I do feel the post you put earlier is a fairly good sign you are not d1 scum. Re: hopeless I did find one thing that makes me hesitate on Hopeless- Kush, Kita, and Hopeless all voted for rayn d1. It feels like overplaying a little bit, and honestly I expected hopeless to raise that as a defensive point (so I could feel better about it since he wouldn't know if we would notice it on our own) :s Even so... I still feel hopeless is probably the best vote. I'll be in and out to discuss! ##Vote: Hopeless1der | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
On April 10 2014 01:00 austinmcc wrote: Amiko, when you say you weren't as townie on poof's D1 as everyone else, what do you mean? His D1 was the one I didn't like, it was his N1/D2 that pulled me around. Thrawn def. indicated (on this page even) that he read poofter as town d1. I thought you also read him as town d1? On April 09 2014 09:48 austinmcc wrote: I'd be sorta interested in the poofter stuff. Poofter looking scummier than hopeless but also poofter super townie on D1 but also you wanting poofter nuked during the night (and, by the way, wanting kita not-nuked) But glancing at filter I guess you said you weren't sure earlier. On March 31 2014 12:20 austinmcc wrote: Hey slam, I have the ability to make up an item every day and pretend to give it to someone. I will pretend to give you a made-up item if you will assist me. Today I have made up the Cerulean Rectangular Prism ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/TARDIS2.jpg/220px-TARDIS2.jpg) I will pretend to give you the Cerulean Rectangular Prism in exchange for you completing the following mission. All relevant information for your mission is contained in the following points: (1) I have read the thread. (2) I have summoned forth a mighty frowny face at the focus on slam's claim, mass claiming, and whatever rayn is doing or not doing. (3) Lo, I am not particularly townie on the filter of one tefpoofter. I believe it shows a lot of tiny questions that appear to have little followup or little reason to really be asked, they appear to be questions asked just so that questions could be asked. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to sally forth into The Hinterlands and report your findings to me. I don't think I have it in me to make a case on this contradiction right now austin >_< | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
"I am interested in the poofter stuff. The poofter stuff where you, thrawn, had Poofter looking scummier than hopeless but also had poofter super townie on D1 but also wanted poofter nuked during the night (and, by the way, wanting kita not-nuked)" It's my presentation of his stuff, not my own stuff. I ain't want no poofter nuke last night. | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
Did you have any thoughts on the d1 voting pattern I mentioned above? (Kush, Kita, and Hopeless all voted for rayn d1) | ||
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
Hopeless1der (3) - thrawn2112, austinmcc, Amiko thrawn2112 (1) - Hopeless1der Not Voting (1) - Tehpoofter Currently Hopeless1der is set to be lynched! The lynch will happen in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
I appreciate the defense and agree its original scum left most likely (again I've missed a decent chunk of the thread) if we don't have any reason to doubt Austin's status as he was a green check and amiko would have had to nuke his teammate in a situation where the next day he could win its between thrown and hopeless. Hopefully there is just one left seems its on hopeless over thrown. I might be around if I don't go back to sleep when meds kick in. For now I'll go with consensus but try to check in read cause this is a mega uninformed vote on potential lylo so ill do my best to be informed read the previous night ##vote: Hopeless1der (Bolding on an iPad is the worst) | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On April 10 2014 02:16 Amiko wrote: Based on kitaman's flip, he was town D1, so we'd be looking at hopeless and Kush together, with kita pushing a case he legitimately believed in.@Austin Did you have any thoughts on the d1 voting pattern I mentioned above? (Kush, Kita, and Hopeless all voted for rayn d1) Lemme go check timing. If kita pushes rayn first, they may just be hopping on what looks like a decent case against someone who's dangerous. Also unsure if rayn has magical kush reads or anything, I believe that he reads certain players better than others, may have been dangerous for kush if he's caught kush in the past. One sec | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On April 10 2014 02:33 Tehpoofter wrote: PLEASE DO NOT BE SCUM I WILL #SADSQUAWK AND #RAGESQUAWK AT YOU AND IT WILL BE LOUDI'm sorry boys I'm not going to have the energy to catch up but I've read this whole day. I see we nuked Kita was anyone else on the block? Do we think there is 1 or 2? I appreciate the defense and agree its original scum left most likely (again I've missed a decent chunk of the thread) if we don't have any reason to doubt Austin's status as he was a green check and amiko would have had to nuke his teammate in a situation where the next day he could win its between thrown and hopeless. Hopefully there is just one left seems its on hopeless over thrown. I might be around if I don't go back to sleep when meds kick in. For now I'll go with consensus but try to check in read cause this is a mega uninformed vote on potential lylo so ill do my best to be informed read the previous night ##vote: Hopeless1der (Bolding on an iPad is the worst) Hope illness clears up | ||
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