On April 07 2014 07:41 thrawn2112 wrote: well what use is that role to mafia? i can see it being of use to town, like he might be able to watch for framers
Well he sees anyone who visits a guy together with rose, that's a guaranteed blue snipe every time it happens and when JJD pushes a guy he visited previously they can deduce he's cop.
What imo is a strong indicator of kita being mafia is that scum shot Djo knowing that me and hopeless were both blue (if hope isn't scum), they would never take such a risk of not shooting a claimed blue without already KNOWING Djo was inventor, and inventor is clearly a much better role than a claimed JK or such a watcher.
Well he sees anyone who visits a guy together with rose, that's a guaranteed blue snipe every time it happens and when JJD pushes a guy he visited previously they can deduce he's cop.
Nevermind they can't know it's JJD until he claims.
On April 07 2014 07:44 thrawn2112 wrote: i dont see how hopeless can have a fake role. didn't he announce his results before other people confirmed them? so the actual role mechanics have to be true right? and i'm still not seeing how his role can be useful to mafia
The role isn't fake, the name can be. I mean that type of watcher could be a scum role although it is kinda weak.
I'm kinda moving towards a kita/poofter scumteam as final solution. The argumet with Djo getting shot over other claimed blues is in my opinion very strong.
On April 07 2014 07:41 thrawn2112 wrote: well what use is that role to mafia? i can see it being of use to town, like he might be able to watch for framers
Well he sees anyone who visits a guy together with rose, that's a guaranteed blue snipe every time it happens and when JJD pushes a guy he visited previously they can deduce he's cop.
What imo is a strong indicator of kita being mafia is that scum shot Djo knowing that me and hopeless were both blue (if hope isn't scum), they would never take such a risk of not shooting a claimed blue without already KNOWING Djo was inventor, and inventor is clearly a much better role than a claimed JK or such a watcher.
So this is sort of why I was saying kita claiming to have tracked Djo seems like a concern. If kita was converted, it makes sense that he'd tell scum who the inventor is and kill him, potentially driving him to kush as well.
On April 07 2014 07:44 thrawn2112 wrote: i dont see how hopeless can have a fake role. didn't he announce his results before other people confirmed them? so the actual role mechanics have to be true right? and i'm still not seeing how his role can be useful to mafia
The role isn't fake, the name can be. I mean that type of watcher could be a scum role although it is kinda weak.
I'm kinda moving towards a kita/poofter scumteam as final solution. The argumet with Djo getting shot over other claimed blues is in my opinion very strong.
I revisited D1 and feel less strongly about this read now. I had forgotten, but djo basically claimed blue in his first post and the post was pointed out by a few people as well. I think scum could conclude he was likely blue, even if they were not sure he was inventor.
Well I was thinking to myself that kita could lie about his track target but maybe he didn't think of the consequences, or thought that it would look better if he was sincere at the cost of looking scummy for it precisely cause people would think what I thought here.
If kita is scum then he made a mistake in being sincere cause I don't see why scum would shoot Djo over claimed blues without already knowing his role.
Ok amiko didn't think of that. Forgot about Djo's accidental blueclaim.
Scum might as well have tried to snipe the inventor knowing I didn't visit JJD. After all the claimed blues were me, JJD, kita, hope, Djo. JJD hope and me couldn't be the inventor. So not much left to choose from.
Kita claimed only in resolution period, so in theory scum couldn't know if he was blue or not when sending in the actions. They knew me JJD and Djo were blue.
Can't use that argument on kita after all. But I can't believe scum wouldn't recruit a scum player of his caliber.
Hopeless we don't know if scumometer had a notification. Can you tell us who you think is scum please?
On April 07 2014 07:44 thrawn2112 wrote: i dont see how hopeless can have a fake role. didn't he announce his results before other people confirmed them? so the actual role mechanics have to be true right? and i'm still not seeing how his role can be useful to mafia
Someone argued I could be like scum rolecop or something with my role? Was that kita?
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