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right now I'd say i'm most comfortable nuking into hopeless/tehpoofter.
Austin aint mafia, that's just obvious. I think kita is town, and I especially think he was town on D1 as per my recent post. Amiko has felt generally townie throughout the game for various reasons.
I need to reaffirm my feelings on vivax before looking into hope/tehpoofter... but I really, really don't think he is mafia. I think he's too engaged with the thread to be mafia.
So that leaves hopeless (who I honestly completely forgot about until vivax asked me about something) and tehpoofter. Right now I can't think of any good reasons for either of them to be town based on stuff that's happened recently. If I had to guess I would say hopeless would be original scum, and tehpoofter was converted.
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Yeah kita's role kinda implies that he at least started out as genuine doctor (cause the powers stay the same the name changes and the role sounds so imba that I don't believe he could have made his powers up like that). I believe he could have been converted, which explains how scum was able to snipe Djo.
I suggest we delay the decision on kita as much as possible and try to figure out the second scum among hopeless, poofter, thrawn.
Gonna look at differences between kita's D1 and D2. I just hope the conversion is a night ability and not something immediate that can be used during the day.
Need to figure a way to coordinate roleblocks tonight without scum knowing how to react to it.
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If I were a kush/hopeless/TP scumteam I would certainly convert kita, he's a pretty good scummer.
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i dont think it's possible to have 4 scum during d4 if that's what you're implynig vivax. it would have been 4v4.
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Yeah I mean 2 of them during D1, hence / and not + 
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On April 07 2014 05:20 austinmcc wrote:
Here's a neat open question, but would like to hear from poofter/thrawn/hopeless before others:
If kush is mafia, do you belive he used the scumometer and received a result that kita is town? If not, what do you disbelieve?
@Tehpoofter
@Hopeless1der
Since you voted earlier maybe you are around, would you answer this question?
I would sort of like to answer but I don't want to answer before you.
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Actually we've been pretty stupid we should have realized that kush was scum for not vigging Alakaslam..
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who is rose? the person that hopeless is connected with? that's vivax right? and vivax what was your role again?
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No, JJD was rose, rose is dead. I'm Craig Owens.
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JJD was Rose (DT).
If hopeless' claims is true:
- Hopeless watches whoever Rose targets.
- With Rose out of the game, Hopeless will watch a randomly selected person.
- Hopeless does not know who he is watching.
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so hopeless role is that he watches the person the DT checks?
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Oh, and
- Roleblocked players do not make night visits, as far as we know.
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Yes, until DT dies (and JJD was killed), so per his claim, he will watch a random player.
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i don't know why that would be a scum role tbh..
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Oh, and also
- He does not see the DT's name in the list of people who he watched
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well what use is that role to mafia? i can see it being of use to town, like he might be able to watch for framers
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The thing is...Scum kush had an unchanged role to claim, only his name was the fakeclaim.
That means that 1 scum is either claiming vanilla, or one of the remaining roles is scum. Just which one? I'm putting my bet on Tehpoofter being a fake vanilla and kita being a converted guy, alternatively Poofter has been converted and hopeless has a scum role.
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so you think kush lied about kita? lol
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I would tend to agree.
Kita's suggestion is that it tells scum who has been DT checked. However, scum can only figure this out if they visited the checked person (and see their own name on the watch list).
Hopeless argued that his role was useless. When I was a VT, I figured hey, at least he has some power. Now I'm really not too sure what his role can do.
It might be effective if rose was converted (and still was "Rose" for the purpose of directing hopeless' watch).
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i dont see how hopeless can have a fake role. didn't he announce his results before other people confirmed them? so the actual role mechanics have to be true right? and i'm still not seeing how his role can be useful to mafia
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EPT
