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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 07 2014 02:02 GMT
#2561
On April 07 2014 11:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 11:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Wait, so lets get this straight, the scum team is myself, kush, and hopeless.

"So the plan was this: Your roleblocker 1 roleblocks me, roleblocker 2 (kita) roleblocks Djo. "

So who is our mysterious roleblocker? Are you saying it was 4v4 yesterday? You just said 4v4 was unreasonable a few moments ago?


Hopeless can have additional powers he simply didn't claim.


So he just decided to guess that nobody else visited austin hoping that he wouldn't get caught in a lie? Or are you saying he performed two actions at once?

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 07 2014 02:03 GMT
#2562
On April 07 2014 11:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 11:00 Vivax wrote:
On April 07 2014 11:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Wait, so lets get this straight, the scum team is myself, kush, and hopeless.

"So the plan was this: Your roleblocker 1 roleblocks me, roleblocker 2 (kita) roleblocks Djo. "

So who is our mysterious roleblocker? Are you saying it was 4v4 yesterday? You just said 4v4 was unreasonable a few moments ago?


Hopeless can have additional powers he simply didn't claim.


So he just decided to guess that nobody else visited austin hoping that he wouldn't get caught in a lie? Or are you saying he performed two actions at once?



Hopeless' "power" is a passive, not a power he has to choose to use.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 07 2014 02:04 GMT
#2563
Like this is the scummy behavior from you vivax that got me so worried yesterday in the first place. It makes me really nervous that you come to a conclusion without thinking things out.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 07 2014 02:04 GMT
#2564
vivax can you explain what the "missing" night action is? or the "extra" one? or whatever you're talking about lol.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 07 2014 02:04 GMT
#2565
If he didn't say that nobody visited austin, this would have happened.

On April 05 2014 06:27 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 06:26 Amiko wrote:
I think the argument is:
Vivax has said he jailed Austin, which would mean that Austin did not visit Kita.


Oh fuck didn't think of this.

Okay, nuke clearance is back.

thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 07 2014 02:05 GMT
#2566
why would scum hopeless lie about his results?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 07 2014 02:09 GMT
#2567
On April 07 2014 11:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
vivax can you explain what the "missing" night action is? or the "extra" one? or whatever you're talking about lol.


I think hopeless is perfectly capable of having extra powers since his watcher role works automatically. He latches onto rose and watches whoever she visits.

The host mistake probably isn't a mistake the hosts made, it's a mistake hopeless made.

Why did nobody roleblock Djo and stop him from inventing the scum-o-meter? Cause they roleblocked me, the remaining blue between hopeless and Djo. Roleblock Vivax and Djo, kill Djo. Hopeless is one of them anyway.

Since I was jailing austin and have been roleblocked, he managed to roleblock kita. Hopeless posted what he really saw in his PM, then realized that mistake could get him lynched, he backtracked.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 07 2014 02:10 GMT
#2568
Kita it's irrelevant what you think of me cause I'm dying tonight and you know it. Tell me why you are not suspecting hopeless of being scum in light of the fact that it probably was his mistake and not the hosts
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 07 2014 02:12 GMT
#2569
This night is all about what happened there.

Amiko can choose between believing that hosts would be douchebags and not tell the thread about a mistake, or he can believe that hopeless lied.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 07 2014 02:33 GMT
#2570
well i'm still lost
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 07 2014 02:35 GMT
#2571
Good work Vivax, blame the hosts for not modconfirming me town. Totally their faults.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 07 2014 02:36 GMT
#2572
On April 07 2014 11:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
well i'm still lost


It's perfectly simple.

Hopeless got a wrong PM from the hosts and only he gets that feedback? GJ hosts, you influenced the game favouring a faction depending on hopeless' alignment.

Hopeless got the right PM but soon realized that the true claim will get him into danger? He lied to cover it up.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 07 2014 02:37 GMT
#2573
@Tehpoofter: Answer austin's question about the scumometer, I want to talk about it but want you to talk first.

Vivax Tonight & More Conversion Speculation
I'm not positive you will die tonight Vivax. If the odd night conversion/even night kill theory (that I think you suggested) is accurate, we may not see any KP tonight (besides that of my armed nuclear warhead) and have to try to figure out conversions.

My only hesitation with nuking among the claimed VTs is that I think it's possible they will also "power up" into blue roles.
Pretend for a moment that scum can convert every night. To account for an ever-expanding amount of scum, town has to have more than 1 KP/day (via lynch).
We know kush was scum, so his KP couldn't help town. KP could be created by Djo as inventor, but it is only a semi-KP role. I have become a KP role, but it's just a one-shot. Therefore, even with the high number of blue roles, I think that conversion must be not be something scum can do every night. (If they can, then I think we auto-lose unless a town role gets KP tomorrow).

Anyway, that doesn't lead anywhere in particular, but I do think it's reasonable to imagine other VTs might get weaponry like an anti-cyber gun or nuke or whatever.


Hopeless Retraction
@Vivax: I want to win and all, but the game is not invalid based on hopeless claiming host error.
When he said something before we didn't know if it was true, and when changed what he said we don't know if that was true.
Imo, the game will only be invalid if the hosts confirm he is telling the truth or not.

I don't think the argument that he is relying on host error is going to sway me (or that it should sway me).
...unless austin tells me it should. #birdgod

I'll take another look at your posts because parts were confusing, but I think I understand your argument and don't agree with it

Nuking
I want to make this decision but I'd like to hear from austin cause I think everyone reads him as most town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 07 2014 02:37 GMT
#2574
On April 07 2014 11:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
Good work Vivax, blame the hosts for not modconfirming me town. Totally their faults.


Telling the thread if they made a mistake with your PM doesn't modconfirm you jack. They can make that mistake no matter what your alignment is and your role was already confirmed to the thread cause you saw me and JJD visiting austin.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 07 2014 02:38 GMT
#2575
@Hopeless1der:
Can you think of situations where your role benefits town? I think there are some.
Can you think of situations where your role benefits mafia? I think there are some.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 07 2014 02:40 GMT
#2576
Besides, by not telling the thread they already influenced the game.

You cannot not behave.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 07 2014 02:41 GMT
#2577
1st axiom of communication btw
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 07 2014 02:41 GMT
#2578
If I'm mafia, why am I a vet? Town doesn't even have any kp aside from the vet proof nuke. That would be completely worthless.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 07 2014 02:41 GMT
#2579
On April 07 2014 11:38 Amiko wrote:
@Hopeless1der:
Can you think of situations where your role benefits town? I think there are some.
Can you think of situations where your role benefits mafia? I think there are some.

My role, as claimed, is not useful to mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 07 2014 02:42 GMT
#2580
On April 07 2014 11:41 kitaman27 wrote:
If I'm mafia, why am I a vet? Town doesn't even have any kp aside from the vet proof nuke. That would be completely worthless.


Converted N1.

Tell me this, kita.
Why have you been stalling with your roleclaim? Specifically you only claimed after everybody else already had claimed their actions.
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