EPTOn April 07 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
My role, as claimed, is not useful to mafia.
My role, as claimed, is not useful to mafia.
That is not your only power. That's your passive. Your active power is a roleblock, possibly a conversion.
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Vivax
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That is not your only power. That's your passive. Your active power is a roleblock, possibly a conversion. | ||
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Amiko
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On April 07 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote: My role, as claimed, is not useful to mafia. :| | ||
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Vivax
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Hopeless1der
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Amiko
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Just understand that your phrasing there implies that your role is not what you claimed. | ||
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Vivax
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On April 07 2014 11:48 Hopeless1der wrote: You retards are implying I have more abilities than what I claimed. I dont have anything else. That is my role. I am a modified watcher and thats it. Obviously I shouldn't have taken the hosts at face value when they reported my check. I'm obviously to blame. Similarly, when it was corrected, I should have claimed scum instead of trying to provide the town with my corrected results. You should have requested for their mistake to be made public cause it made you look worse and caused unnecessary confusion. But you couldn't cause it was your mistake and not theirs. | ||
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thrawn2112
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Hopeless1der
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Vivax
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On April 07 2014 11:51 Hopeless1der wrote: Well feel free to explain to me how my role, as claimed, benefits me if I am mafia. You catch any blue that visits the same target as Rose. | ||
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kitaman27
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On April 07 2014 11:42 Vivax wrote: Converted N1. Tell me this, kita. Why have you been stalling with your roleclaim? Specifically you only claimed after everybody else already had claimed their actions. Because I had no information that benefited town. Like aside from being transparent, what's the point to letting the mafia team know what I have? Are you suggesting that I should have told everyone that I tracked djo to jarjar during the night two resolution period when everyone else was claiming? And why on earth would I be the recruiter target on N1? rayn just voted himself to get me lynched, that was how sure he was. Based on town sentiment, I was probably the player most likely to get lynched d2. Out of all the obvious townies, I was the choice? | ||
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thrawn2112
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Vivax
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On April 07 2014 11:52 kitaman27 wrote: Because I had no information that benefited town. Like aside from being transparent, what's the point to letting the mafia team know what I have? Are you suggesting that I should have told everyone that I tracked djo to jarjar during the night two resolution period when everyone else was claiming? And why on earth would I be the recruiter target on N1? rayn just voted himself to get me lynched, that was how sure he was. Based on town sentiment, I was probably the player most likely to get lynched d2. Out of all the obvious townies, I was the choice? Town sentiment?Hopeless sentiment. Hopeless asked for a 1 on 1, next day he threw it in the trash. That's cause then you became a part of his team. I didn't see anyone else suggesting you should be lynched just cause rayn asked for you to be lynched after him. You delayed the roleclaim so you could wait for everyone else to claim their actions and paint the course of events that benefit you the most, knowing what the blues did at night. You had a good excuse, having the best role in the game. Besides, if you really were town you wouldn't have claimed you are also a vet, that's retarded. | ||
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Vivax
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Hopeless1der
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On April 07 2014 11:52 Vivax wrote: You catch any blue that visits the same target as Rose. And I know nothing about them, just that they exist. Have you seen the number of blues flipped? Technically you're right, but based on the flips that "knowledge" isn't particularly valuable. | ||
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kitaman27
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On April 07 2014 11:55 Vivax wrote: Town sentiment?Hopeless sentiment. Hopeless asked for a 1 on 1, next day he threw it in the trash. That's cause then you became a part of his team. I didn't see anyone else suggesting you should be lynched just cause rayn asked for you to be lynched after him. You delayed the roleclaim so you could wait for everyone else to claim their actions and paint the course of events that benefit you the most, knowing what the blues did at night. You had a good excuse, having the best role in the game. Besides, if you really were town you wouldn't have claimed you are also a vet, that's retarded. No need to call me names. Out of all the players in the game, you are honestly saying that I looked like the most obvious townie after d1? | ||
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Vivax
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On April 07 2014 11:57 Hopeless1der wrote: And I know nothing about them, just that they exist. Have you seen the number of blues flipped? Technically you're right, but based on the flips that "knowledge" isn't particularly valuable. You can also claim that somebody visited a night killed target by chance visited by the DT that night. Why are you downplaying your role? | ||
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Amiko
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Here's how I see it. First, let's show how your role benefits scum. Pretend N1 JJD/Rose/Cop checks me. Gumshoe/Iforget/Doctor protects me. Your PM is something like "Gumshoe visited your target" From this, you can conclude that Gumshoe has a night-visiting role. You know he is not on your scumteam, so you have identified a blue power role. You might also review Gumshoe's comments to get some idea of how he acted or who he visited. For instance, maybe you look at his D1 filter where he talks about picking me as a companion and conclude that he was breadcrumbing that he would protect me. From this, you can make a second conclusion: Rose visited me N1. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On April 05 2014 06:27 Hopeless1der wrote: Like ffs, you'd think you guys would know how to read, you've been playing forum mafia for how long now? On April 05 2014 07:19 Hopeless1der wrote: Do I need to start spoonfeeding this stuff to people? NIGHT ACTION RESULTS FOR NIGHT 2: i.e. Vivax has apparently been successful in jailing austin. ------------------ On April 05 2014 06:31 Hopeless1der wrote: Formal Request: Night Action Resolution Order: - Roleblock - Jailkeeper [Simultaneous?] or [Order of precedence?] On April 05 2014 06:34 Xatalos wrote: Uh... sorry, I think the order of operations is secret. But it follows common sense. On April 05 2014 06:39 Crossfire99 wrote: It's secret On April 06 2014 01:05 Crossfire99 wrote: What happens in PM land is between the hosts and the person we are PMing. <s>I clearly never once attempted to improve the transparency of my check.</s> | ||
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Amiko
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Pretend D1 kush visits me with the intent of killing me. Rose also visits me. Your PM is something like "Kushm4sta visited your target" Later in the game, people claim their roles and checks. Rose says n1 check was Amiko. You can conclude that Kushm4sta visited me. You also have a means of confirming who Rose is based on other claimed night actions. By looking at who showed up when, you can essentially confirm the identity of Rose. You also can confirm the way roleblocks work with each other. For instance, if you are town you know that Vivax was able to roleblock Austin (who is a roleblocker). So, you can determine that roleblocks targeting roleblockers have precedence and are effective. There's probably other things but those at least come to mind. | ||
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