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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 19 2014 14:01 GMT
#1121
yeah im not following the stuff at all. Too much meta man.
No gg, No skill.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 19 2014 14:02 GMT
#1122
On March 19 2014 22:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The second point is Hopeless said "...otherwise rayn is town" which clearly means he has formed some sort of a read on me. After thrawn questions him about this read he says "i don't have a read on rayn, it's purely based on statistics". One of those two statements must be bullshit because they can't both be true.

Direct quotes if you please. You're wrong

It's in his post.

You said something like "if rayn doesn't come back in x he's scum, otherwise he's probably town" and then you said "i don't have a read on rayn, it's statistics".

Rayn's theory is that based on the former sentence, you should have a townread on rayn and you're only flipping it if he goes afk for a long time, and the second sentence implies that you have no read.

What I think is missing is that your read during the initial sentence is actually null and not town, and you think only if he comes back does it make him town.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 14:04 GMT
#1123
You can't possibly say "if he comes back he is likely town" unless you have a read on me. That's impossible.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2014 14:05 GMT
#1124
Yeah I agree. You should have found him townie otherwise you don't say that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 19 2014 14:09 GMT
#1125
On March 19 2014 23:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You can't possibly say "if he comes back he is likely town" unless you have a read on me. That's impossible.

I damn well can, because I did. What you mean to say is that I can't believe that if I am town, which again, is false because I do believe it.

The word I was looking for was "likely", because statistically, with nothing else to consider, every player is more likely to flip town. Basic probability. i.e. null if you prefer that way of looking at it. If you didn't come back after ragequitting on coag's seal you'd be scummy because rayn doesnt do that shit as either alignment.

You're active and doing stuff. That doesnt go one way or the other in your case for who's team you're on. You're likely to be town because scum will shoot you if you are and I wont need to worry about it. That's a horrible lapse in logic but it's likely true regardless.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 19 2014 14:10 GMT
#1126
Horrible lapses of logic in that post Hopeless.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 14:12 GMT
#1127
Hopeless do you think VE is likely town?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 14:13 GMT
#1128
If you didn't come back after ragequitting on coag's seal you'd be scummy because rayn doesnt do that shit as either alignment.

I can do, and i will do whatever i want. If i policy vote for something it is fucking sure i will not come back if i say so. You should know it because you have seen me do it.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 14:15 GMT
#1129
I am likely to be town because mafia will most likely shoot me if i am town.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 14:17 GMT
#1130
lol forgot hopeless was modding culture (last game) where rayn was town and afk'd after a policy vote and he like never came back till after deadline, so why did you mention the ~5 hour thing being scummy on rayn when you know that not to be true?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2014 14:19 GMT
#1131
Even though I feel like Hopeless is too active to be scum he is doing a great job in trying to make me draw something with his name on.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 14:19 GMT
#1132
On March 19 2014 23:17 Holyflare wrote:
lol forgot hopeless was modding culture (last game) where rayn was town and afk'd after a policy vote and he like never came back till after deadline, so why did you mention the ~5 hour thing being scummy on rayn when you know that not to be true?

wait what?
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 19 2014 14:19 GMT
#1133
On March 19 2014 23:17 Holyflare wrote:
lol forgot hopeless was modding culture (last game) where rayn was town and afk'd after a policy vote and he like never came back till after deadline, so why did you mention the ~5 hour thing being scummy on rayn when you know that not to be true?


Someone confirm this please (fucking meta). Also it's important to know at what point rayn afk'd out of the thread. (with how many hours left in the day).

If this is actually true then hopeless's stuff does look worse.
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 14:20 GMT
#1134
On March 19 2014 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 23:17 Holyflare wrote:
lol forgot hopeless was modding culture (last game) where rayn was town and afk'd after a policy vote and he like never came back till after deadline, so why did you mention the ~5 hour thing being scummy on rayn when you know that not to be true?

wait what?


hopeless was a mod in culture, you went afk for a good portion of day 1 because you got mad at some shit like mocsta and were just sheeping me instead, you were town and afk'd past deadline after getting mad?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 19 2014 14:21 GMT
#1135
On March 19 2014 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless do you think VE is likely town?

not really, but thats because of his own disappearing act. similar to GT's. they're are reasons that I would support behind lynching them but not actual scumreads.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 14:23 GMT
#1136
On March 19 2014 23:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2014 23:17 Holyflare wrote:
lol forgot hopeless was modding culture (last game) where rayn was town and afk'd after a policy vote and he like never came back till after deadline, so why did you mention the ~5 hour thing being scummy on rayn when you know that not to be true?

wait what?


hopeless was a mod in culture, you went afk for a good portion of day 1 because you got mad at some shit like mocsta and were just sheeping me instead, you were town and afk'd past deadline after getting mad?

Well this is not true.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 14:23 GMT
#1137
actually nvm he came back
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 19 2014 14:24 GMT
#1138
On March 19 2014 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 22:51 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref tell me, you have no idea of my meta so does it bother you you (who have not played wwith me) call me mafia for something and the people who have played with me do not call me mafia for it?


Well, I didn't call you mafia for your reaction to the seal. I wanted to let DP know that his reasoning to pin you town was bad from my point of view and that I wouldn't trust him on that.

I don't know if it's just me but to me it looks like that's exactly why you are calling me mafia.
So if you would clarify why you in fact are calling me mafia it would help me figuring out your alignment.


I'm suspicious of you for several reasons.
  • You pinned Coag as mafia for one useless post and a point about kush's meta.
    =>How could you be so sure it was kush posting ?
  • You spent a lot of time arguing with Coag and clarifying some minor points, and it was messing up the thread from my point of view.
    =>Why didn't you bring up new arguments ?
  • You announce that you go AFK because of the seal thing, when they were already seals drawned in thread way before
    =>Looked too easy for me
  • I didn't understand where Hopeless was lying.


That being said, the post of Coag was indeed scummy, but it is a little not enough much for me to spend so much time and thread space about it.
Also I don't think it's a good idea to lynch you today because of your activity and also because I don't feel like I could push a lynch on you. And you have good points about GT.
tl;dr I don't trust you, you are potential mafia on my list, but I would rather lynch someone else today.

Could you answer me why you chose to support an Hopeless lynch instead of a GT lynch ?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 14:25 GMT
#1139
did rayn bring up any new points on giggle?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2014 14:27 GMT
#1140
pretty sure rayn brought things up about everybody. That's why I got him as town.
I had a good night of sleep.
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