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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 19 2014 23:24 Djodref wrote: Could you answer me why you chose to support an Hopeless lynch instead of a GT lynch ? I am okay with lynching both of them. I have played many games with Hopeless and only one (that i know of) with Giggletummy so i am not 100% sure of him being mafia and in my opinion there is more evidence on Hopeless being mafia. Giggletummy is definitely my #2 scumread. That being said you need to explain why your case makes me mafia. You basically said i called out scummy stuff and that makes me scum. That's really bad. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Hopeless has had time and i don't like the explanations. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 19 2014 23:32 Koshi wrote: rayn, don't you think Hopeless is too active to be scum? I do not think activity is a scum or a towntell. I use activity as meta to determine who to look more into but ultimately i base my reads on what people say and why they say what they do. Every single person is capable of having 20 pages of filter on D1, that is a fact, if they just write whatever crap. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On March 19 2014 23:32 Holyflare wrote: djod, in regards to rayn. Now that coag has flipped town, doesn't this make your "how does he know it's kush" point irrelevant? It seemed like you were implying they were scum together, otherwise how else would he know what head of the hydra was posting? No, I wanted to say that his meta argument was really light. Now that we know that Coag is town, there was no real way for him to know if it was kush or not so the meta argument was not acceptable imo. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 19 2014 23:33 Koshi wrote: But he can be active as scum though. I just remember him to not do it unless needed (Time to die, Shadowed) What makes you think he does not need to be active if he is mafia atm? Do you think he is not one of the top lynch candidates at the moment? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On March 19 2014 23:32 Koshi wrote: rayn, don't you think Hopeless is too active to be scum? I don't think he's active at all? What has he done this game? The only content in his filter is about why he pushed his scum read on me and that was 1 hour into the game and it's still pretty much the only thing he is talking about. The rest of his reads are all mostly unqualified "he must be town because statistically aren't most people"? Then... who is scum because statistically someone else has to be too? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 19 2014 23:35 Djodref wrote: No, I wanted to say that his meta argument was really light. Now that we know that Coag is town, there was no real way for him to know if it was kush or not so the meta argument was not acceptable imo. Where did i make a meta-argument? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
Here, let's discuss this post. On March 19 2014 18:47 thrawn2112 wrote: rayn - i watched him in foundation and what seemed most different in his play there compared to his town play is that he didn't seem as interested in finding scum, and he didn't appear to act like he was going to be a strong town leader. he knows his skill level and as town i think he usually feels a lot of repsonsibility for helping town win. It's a hard thing to pinpoint but this is probably the closest I can get: It's stuff like that where I feel like rayn is sincerely trying to push town in a direction that he believe will help him lynch scum. Another big reason is this post which is supposed to be from his notes during the time he rage quit the thread. I think it's a lot more likely that he did that (that = make notes during rage quite) as town than he did that as scum. Koshi, mostly because he seems to be having fun and I can feel the thought behind his posts even when they aren't given. I think tehpoofter is town. I already talked about my initial read on his post, and that read was further solidified by him claiming to have "set a trap" for vivax here I don't think there's anyone else that I'd feel confident as labeling a "top" town read. I think both dp and hf are town but I can't get over this nagging doubt that one of them is full of crap. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On March 19 2014 23:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am okay with lynching both of them. I have played many games with Hopeless and only one (that i know of) with Giggletummy so i am not 100% sure of him being mafia and in my opinion there is more evidence on Hopeless being mafia. Giggletummy is definitely my #2 scumread. That being said you need to explain why your case makes me mafia. You basically said i called out scummy stuff and that makes me scum. That's really bad. No, I want to say that you pushing town Coag with not enough arguments and not doing really anything else before announcing that you would go AFK makes you look bad in my eyes. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 19 2014 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: What makes you think he does not need to be active if he is mafia atm? Do you think he is not one of the top lynch candidates at the moment? Well, Hopeless is somebody I could sheep you on. I wouldn't lynch him atm. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Here. On March 19 2014 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: The point is he just drops a comment that's non-alignment indicative towards every direction. There is nothing, the post achieves nothing and is designed to achieve nothing. If that's kush he is mafia. On March 19 2014 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is from the last game. kush does this shit all the time as mafia. He posts stuff that has no intention of achieving anything when he is mafia. [snip] | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 19 2014 23:40 Djodref wrote: No, I want to say that you pushing town Coag with not enough arguments and not doing really anything else before announcing that you would go AFK makes you look bad in my eyes. So you are basing your read on me purely on the fact that:
Again, what's your case on me? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
"If that's kush he is mafia" =/= "That is kush and he is mafia". Did i, in your opinion, ever push the argument as "that is kush and he is mafia". If i did, show me where, if i didn't, why are you making shit up? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
I get the quoting the big post rayn made with his reads but if anything that would be something I'd point out pretty much straight away rather than after my meta explanation of rayn, especially as in foundation rayn wasn't in a qt with his scum team so he was demotivated from the start. Koshi read is meh but I guess it's alright because I feel similar, just not put any effort in explaining it like he did to overjustify rayn? poofter read is really odd because his posts aren't alignment indicative for a new player and that guy has experience of video mafia so to give a top 3 town read on him is strange compared to other people that were in the thread at the time, he says me and dp are towny but poofter weighs in above all of us with almost 0 content? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
I'd much rather lynch somewhere in the general direction of poof, GT, thrawn or even VE/Slam. maaaaybe djodref. | ||
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