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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 19 2014 13:40 GMT
#1101
The only reason i jumped on you on whatever in hogwarts is because there was pressure on me from the red check, thrawn is determining his poe list based on...? His read on dp is super weird considering all the things he said about him. I fail to see how the 2 scenarios are alike and i don't get what you are doing either. It appears to be solely discrediting me instead of talking about potentially scummy intentions.

There are also many questions for you unanswered earlier that you need to respond to or talk about.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 19 2014 13:42 GMT
#1102
like about how i lied and i'm scum? Because I've either addressed those or I'm ignoring them as ridiculous. Also waiting on Palmar to decide if he thinks I lied before I reiterate my points.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 19 2014 13:43 GMT
#1103
I don't think you lied about the scooby doo thing if that helps
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2014 13:43 GMT
#1104
On March 19 2014 22:39 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 20:06 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:32 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:29 Koshi wrote:
HF DP Vivax GiggleTummy Alakaslam Djodreff
↑ People who are scummy.


How is Alakaslam scummy ?
And what about me also by the way ?

[snip]

Djodref
You are scummy for that very mehhhhh post about rayn not reacting on VE his seal.
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2014 17:52 Djodref wrote:
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On March 19 2014 09:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:46 Coagulation wrote:
so does that make rayn confirmed scum or confirmed bad?


Rayn is pretty much town also. Do you really think rayn would fake this rage quit thing as scum? I don't. But I do think that he would care this much and be so convinced as town that he would do what he did.

So yeah. Kiss and make up cuties.

Although your hydra offends me and If I was a vig I would be viging you tonight no question.

Sadly I don't have a gun.


I'm catching up but I just wanted to mention that I think it is really an easy way to get an excuse to not contribute as scum. And if he was that much concerned about seals, regardless of his alignment, he could have mentioned it at this point (beginning of the game).
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On March 19 2014 06:18 Coagulation wrote:
[image loading]

VE also drew something similar and rayn didn't react at that point.

My point is, you shouldn't base your assessment of rain's alignment on this. It doesn't make him look good from my point of view.





1) DP clearly uses meta on rayn to say that rayn is likely town for ragequitting like that. He says "Do you really think rayn would fake this rage quit thing as scum?". But you ignore the good meta point DP makes and adds some generic thing about how scum loves to go afk and stop contributing.
HOWEVER
You are talking about rayn here, the guy that just spammed up the entire thread with his push on Coag. Is that generic evasive scumplay? You do not mention this behavior at all, you do not mention what happened in the thread at all, you do not give opinions on anything. You just picked out 1 post and gave some lines that made it look like you were scumhunting.
The fact is that he did nothing more than arguing with Coag until that point. I didn't play for more than a year so I have no idea of rayn meta but it looked to me that it was a very easy way to not post in the thread.
2) The thing about the seals is just bad.
rayn obviously ignored the first drawn seal from Coag & VE. After rayn asked me why I was defending Coag and I used the seal in Coag his defense, rayn asked Coag if it was the real seal and only after Coag posted his real seal rayn went afk. The first seals posted by Coag and VE had nothing to do with rayn going AFK and rayn didn't react on BOTH seals.
And I find it strange that he ignored the first seal given his reaction to the "real" one.

Conclusion: I do not know if you are lost town or lost scum. But I hope you pick up your game and start posting your ideas into this thread. Stop asking questions but just post your ideas and we will comment on what you think. Build your scumreads like that and automatically you will be seen as town.


Yes. I guess both are possible.

Try to give your bestest effort in reading people. Your bestest effort will make us not lynch you. (no promises)
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 19 2014 13:44 GMT
#1105
But it looked like a lie till you explained it
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 19 2014 13:44 GMT
#1106
On March 19 2014 22:23 Holyflare wrote:
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On March 19 2014 22:10 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:07 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:04 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:04 Holyflare wrote:
The only thing odd about koshi is when he said coag wasn't overdefending but agreed when coag said dp was overdefending for a lot less

What do you conclude about that?


Only scenario is that you know coag will post his seal under pressure so look good for defending him. Other than that, nothing. That's why i say you're pretty town disregarding that.

Talk about thrawn please


How about you explain exactly what your issue is? Your read is an associative read because he didn't include DP in the mix of his lynch targets.

Should we lynch thrawn for it?


I want to discuss him and it's nothing to do with association it's reads that don't add up with motives:

Says me and dp are town but wary that one of us is full of crap - gives himself a scum on one clause

Says i could be scum because of fluff related to dp but ignores everything else

Says dp could be scum because of x, y, z, a, b, c but the doesn't poe dp after saying all the things I've pointed out about dp.

Either he agrees with me in which case i shouldn't be poe'd because he's sheeping me or he disagrees with me and i shouldn't be poe'd because he said I'm probably town


It's a fault of mindset


The one thing in thrawn's filter that really bothers me is his top 3 town post.

It literally means he only has 2 town reads and everyone else is potentially scum because that venn diagram guy has done nothing for anyone to have a town read on him. I poke thrawn a bit for it and he sorta responded okay, but idk.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2014 13:46 GMT
#1107
Djodref tell me, you have no idea of my meta so does it bother you you (who have not played wwith me) call me mafia for something and the people who have played with me do not call me mafia for it?
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 19 2014 13:47 GMT
#1108
On March 19 2014 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DarthPunk is Djodref this bad or is he mafia?


And why did you ignore Coag and VE drawn seals ?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 19 2014 13:47 GMT
#1109
On March 19 2014 22:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
like about how i lied and i'm scum? Because I've either addressed those or I'm ignoring them as ridiculous. Also waiting on Palmar to decide if he thinks I lied before I reiterate my points.


I don't think there is an outright lie in any of your posts.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2014 13:49 GMT
#1110
On March 19 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think you lied about the scooby doo thing if that helps

That's not the point.
The point is later on Hopeless said you are scum for making a shit meta-case on DP and early on he backed his accusation up with the bussing theory from Cultured. The bussing theory is either useless filler or the TLDR of his scumread on you is not based on what he said earlier.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 19 2014 13:49 GMT
#1111
all this meta from games I haven't played is going way over my head.
Computer says mafia
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 19 2014 13:49 GMT
#1112
On March 19 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think you lied about the scooby doo thing if that helps

basically i didn't want you trolling like what you pulled in cultured so I got on your case as soon as I saw you doing ridiculous things. The Phoenix Wright stuff looked like pregame-plan, or you draw really well really fast. Based on the adventures of kiterayn, I don't think you can draw that well on demand.

Your case on DP is based on his pre-game assertion that he dislikes hydras and was at one point willing to /out because of it. You used a mindset that can't be assigned to an alignment and when DP was consistent with it, tried to spin it to make him look scummy in-game because it allowed him to push scum-agenda. This is after you call your read
On March 19 2014 06:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 06:46 Coagulation wrote:
who do people think is scum


DP is legitimately scum.

But I'm the bad guy for taking you even remotely seriously.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2014 13:51 GMT
#1113
The second point is Hopeless said "...otherwise rayn is town" which clearly means he has formed some sort of a read on me. After thrawn questions him about this read he says "i don't have a read on rayn, it's purely based on statistics". One of those two statements must be bullshit because they can't both be true.
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 19 2014 13:51 GMT
#1114
On March 19 2014 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref tell me, you have no idea of my meta so does it bother you you (who have not played wwith me) call me mafia for something and the people who have played with me do not call me mafia for it?


Well, I didn't call you mafia for your reaction to the seal. I wanted to let DP know that his reasoning to pin you town was bad from my point of view and that I wouldn't trust him on that.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2014 13:54 GMT
#1115
On March 19 2014 22:51 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref tell me, you have no idea of my meta so does it bother you you (who have not played wwith me) call me mafia for something and the people who have played with me do not call me mafia for it?


Well, I didn't call you mafia for your reaction to the seal. I wanted to let DP know that his reasoning to pin you town was bad from my point of view and that I wouldn't trust him on that.

I don't know if it's just me but to me it looks like that's exactly why you are calling me mafia.
So if you would clarify why you in fact are calling me mafia it would help me figuring out your alignment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2014 13:55 GMT
#1116
And please use proper quotes so i don't have to guess which posts from me are scummy.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 19 2014 13:56 GMT
#1117
On March 19 2014 22:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think you lied about the scooby doo thing if that helps

basically i didn't want you trolling like what you pulled in cultured so I got on your case as soon as I saw you doing ridiculous things. The Phoenix Wright stuff looked like pregame-plan, or you draw really well really fast. Based on the adventures of kiterayn, I don't think you can draw that well on demand.

Your case on DP is based on his pre-game assertion that he dislikes hydras and was at one point willing to /out because of it. You used a mindset that can't be assigned to an alignment and when DP was consistent with it, tried to spin it to make him look scummy in-game because it allowed him to push scum-agenda. This is after you call your read
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 06:48 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2014 06:46 Coagulation wrote:
who do people think is scum


DP is legitimately scum.

But I'm the bad guy for taking you even remotely seriously.


I think this is a perfect explanation for Hopeless's actions at the time and now I don't really want to lynch him.
Computer says mafia
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 19 2014 13:57 GMT
#1118
On March 19 2014 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The second point is Hopeless said "...otherwise rayn is town" which clearly means he has formed some sort of a read on me. After thrawn questions him about this read he says "i don't have a read on rayn, it's purely based on statistics". One of those two statements must be bullshit because they can't both be true.

Direct quotes if you please. You're wrong
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 19 2014 13:58 GMT
#1119
On March 19 2014 22:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think you lied about the scooby doo thing if that helps

basically i didn't want you trolling like what you pulled in cultured so I got on your case as soon as I saw you doing ridiculous things. The Phoenix Wright stuff looked like pregame-plan, or you draw really well really fast. Based on the adventures of kiterayn, I don't think you can draw that well on demand.

Your case on DP is based on his pre-game assertion that he dislikes hydras and was at one point willing to /out because of it. You used a mindset that can't be assigned to an alignment and when DP was consistent with it, tried to spin it to make him look scummy in-game because it allowed him to push scum-agenda. This is after you call your read
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 06:48 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2014 06:46 Coagulation wrote:
who do people think is scum


DP is legitimately scum.

But I'm the bad guy for taking you even remotely seriously.


I drew it all in real time :O and yes my case on dp with the hydra thing was a bs joke too, it was his reaction to it that made me serious. You think I'm so bad as to use something that someone says they will do as any alignment as a legitimate case?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2014 13:59 GMT
#1120
On March 19 2014 11:15 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 11:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
hi hopeless. this is for you

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


can you answer dp's question?


- waiting on rayn to come back, he inevitably will, most likely within the next 15 hours. If he isnt back before ~5 hours to deadline I say we lynch him, otherwise he's likely town

- Coag is town

- HF is scummy

- DP is leaning town

- Palmar is town (not green town)

Anything else you feel I could actually comment on at this point that wouldnt be meaningless speculation?


On March 19 2014 11:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
i cant do that thrawn. rayn would be town due to statistics, not because of a particular read. p.s. i'm going to bed now.

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