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OK I read the thread again. The only reason I could see not to like it is that it is basically calling you scummy and not scummy at the same time. Like he says:
This is the reason why it could make you scummy:
This is why you are not scummy for it though:
Like the first part is terribad and there is a dissonance between it and the second part of the post which is the good part.
SO yeah the post is in fact not good because of said dissonance.
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On March 19 2014 07:56 Coagulation wrote: thats fucking stupid theres no dissonance at all. I said people are saying its scummy and this is why its fucking not.
I don't think anyone called it scummy though.
Like what is the point of that? "Hey guys Rayn could have been making plans in the scum qt. He isn't scummy though."
It just seeds doubt and suspicion on someone that you immediately call not scum.
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Rayn you say that he provides no insight of his own. Would you not say that calling it null is not an insight? Like it is a irrelevant conclusion but it is still a conclusion.
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On March 19 2014 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: In fact is this kush posting?
It is basically most of OMGUS posting...
Hence the policy vote.
Full circle bitches. :D
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On March 19 2014 08:06 Palmar wrote:I think that was actually a pretty good post. @rayn, talking about things that are non-alignment-indicative is not bad. Because for the most part these are the only things you can talk about because mafia doesn't out themselves in every post. It's perfectly reasonable to point out stuff even if it may never lead to anything.
You think that calling rayn bad is a pretty good post?
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On March 19 2014 08:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 08:04 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 08:01 Coagulation wrote: rayn ur bad and should feel bad rayn mostly pretty spot on early game. So, just play along = thx. when I said play along I meant cooperate.
It feels like Rayn is the Sheriff and Koshi is the Deputy.
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On March 19 2014 08:09 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 08:08 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 08:06 Palmar wrote:On March 19 2014 08:01 Coagulation wrote: rayn ur bad and should feel bad I think that was actually a pretty good post. @rayn, talking about things that are non-alignment-indicative is not bad. Because for the most part these are the only things you can talk about because mafia doesn't out themselves in every post. It's perfectly reasonable to point out stuff even if it may never lead to anything. You think that calling rayn bad is a pretty good post? No I'm saying rayn's point is good.
Ok. that makes more sense.
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On March 19 2014 08:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 08:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 08:07 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 08:04 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 08:01 Coagulation wrote: rayn ur bad and should feel bad rayn mostly pretty spot on early game. So, just play along = thx. when I said play along I meant cooperate. It feels like Rayn is the Sheriff and Koshi is the Deputy. rayn always gets to be the greater role. Koshi also pretty cool guy.
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On March 19 2014 08:16 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 08:06 DarthPunk wrote: Rayn you say that he provides no insight of his own. Would you not say that calling it null is not an insight? Like it is a irrelevant conclusion but it is still a conclusion. The point is he just drops a comment that's non-alignment indicative towards every direction. There is nothing, the post achieves nothing and is designed to achieve nothing. If that's kush he is mafia. nope Its coag and the fact that ITS AN HOUR INTO THE FUCKING GAME WHEN I MADE THE COMMENT DOESNT STRIKE YOU AS A LITTLE FUCKING EARLY TO BE MAKING INDICATIONS OF ALIGNMENTS. No of course not cause your more interested in SELLING BULLSHIT than fucking reasonable reads.
That is kind of funny because you hopped onto my wagon as soon as the game started. But now it is you that is under pressure it is too early to read alignments?
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Basically my vote doesn't look so bad now when there are like 5 people posting from one account at the same time does it.
#Vindicated
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On March 19 2014 08:23 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 08:22 DarthPunk wrote: Basically my vote doesn't look so bad now when there are like 5 people posting from one account at the same time does it.
#Vindicated Town hero thank you based DarthPunk
HAHA. I fucking KNEW this would turn to shit. One hour into the game. I knew it.
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On March 19 2014 08:27 Koshi wrote: This isn't shit at all DP. Are we back to not trying to read into what people are saying?
I can see Hydra being to fast on the posting there because they were very active in the start and just typing that reply to type it as town. Very possible.
Seems shit to me. And I feel vindicated. Don't go walking in my sunshine Koshi.
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On March 19 2014 08:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 08:01 Coagulation wrote: rayn ur bad and should feel bad Do you think your post was good and moved the thread forward. What was your plan on finding mafia with that post? This is the main question and if you do not answer me reasonably i am not going to move my vote. This question is also relevant to 3/4 of the thread you know. I read that coag post completely differently though. What is interesting to see is how it was pointed out that dp being overdefensive was scummy (by coag) but then they completely went over the overdefensive line in response to you.
That would be a good point, but then they are a 5-10 head hydra so contradiction can be explained away for that reason. Which is why we should just policy lynch him/ vig him and be done with it.
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On March 19 2014 08:32 Koshi wrote: The red reply thing? That was good. 3 people were saying rayn case was good. He had to reply. rayn kept up pressure. Coag kept replying. With more caps.
I don't see overdefensive.
Really. The all caps thing was not over defensive? But you agreed that I was over defensive.
On March 19 2014 07:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 07:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 07:12 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 07:11 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 07:10 Koshi wrote: If anybody is interested I am following Holyflare atm. What does that mean? I think you are scummy scum. Why? You need to provide reasoning or your position is meaningless. I liked what Kush said.
On March 19 2014 07:19 Koshi wrote: pointing out overdefensive post. Could be Coag. But it looks like Kush.
For this post:
On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote: You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did.
Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it.
I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah.
I want to know how on earth you though I was scummy/over defensive for that post, but Coag ragingin all caps was NOT over defensive. That seems like a very arbitrary decision for one thing to be over defensive and another far more defensive thing to not be.
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On March 19 2014 08:41 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 08:36 Coagulation wrote:On March 19 2014 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 08:01 Coagulation wrote: rayn ur bad and should feel bad Do you think your post was good and moved the thread forward. What was your plan on finding mafia with that post? This is the main question and if you do not answer me reasonably i am not going to move my vote. of course at the time I thought it was a good post. It was an attempt to stop a seemingly bad bandwagon based on pure bullshit. and then you jump up my ass for no reason and now Im wondering why the fuck im bothering trying to defend you from bullshit logic when your content to just spew bullshit logic all over me. I dont give a shit what you do with your vote. What was the bandwagon you were trying to stop? the one that would start with a slow chant of "RAYN WAS INACTIVE AT START" and turn to a maddening rumble of "RAYN WAS SCUMMY AT START"
You were the only one to mention rayn as being possibly scummy for it. There was no bandwagon and at the time you were answering a question Rayn asked Palmar so there is no rational way you could have thought that answering rayns question was defending rayn from a bandwagon.
Unless you think he was bandwagoning on himself.
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On March 19 2014 08:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 08:37 DarthPunk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2014 08:32 Koshi wrote: The red reply thing? That was good. 3 people were saying rayn case was good. He had to reply. rayn kept up pressure. Coag kept replying. With more caps.
I don't see overdefensive. Really. The all caps thing was not over defensive? But you agreed that I was over defensive. On March 19 2014 07:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 07:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 07:12 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 07:11 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 07:10 Koshi wrote: If anybody is interested I am following Holyflare atm. What does that mean? I think you are scummy scum. Why? You need to provide reasoning or your position is meaningless. I liked what Kush said. On March 19 2014 07:19 Koshi wrote: pointing out overdefensive post. Could be Coag. But it looks like Kush. For this post: On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote: You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did.
Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it.
I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah. I want to know how on earth you though I was scummy/over defensive for that post, but Coag ragingin all caps was NOT over defensive. That seems like a very arbitrary decision for one thing to be over defensive and another far more defensive thing to not be. I didn't like your early posting. I didn't like the non committal stuff. I didn't like the defensive attitude of other posts. I was reading the thread and I was actually looking at your posts strangely and then people put pressure on you and I simply +1 on everything. because I felt that needed to be done and they had a point. Out of everybody I really believe you had a really weak-ass start and I gave you a scummy point. The point is already put down and cannot be erased. -Koshi his judgement-
The point is not about finding me scummy at the start, the point is why could you find that post defensive enough to list it as a major reason for your read but NOT think that coag, whom is clearly going massive over defense rage mode, is not?
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On March 19 2014 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i have no idea why anyone would think they need to "defend" me or stop a bandwagon which isn't even there. When i read the post i actually thought Coag meant i was trying to start a bandwagon on Palmar which would make a bit more sense (although it's false) but there DEFINITELY was no abdwagon starting on me lol.
No it wasn't there and the whole thing reeks of Post-hoc rationalisations.
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On March 19 2014 08:49 Coagulation wrote:bullshit. YOU were refering to "NOTEWORTHY" Bullshit bullshit Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 08:41 Coagulation wrote:On March 19 2014 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 08:36 Coagulation wrote:On March 19 2014 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 08:01 Coagulation wrote: rayn ur bad and should feel bad Do you think your post was good and moved the thread forward. What was your plan on finding mafia with that post? This is the main question and if you do not answer me reasonably i am not going to move my vote. of course at the time I thought it was a good post. It was an attempt to stop a seemingly bad bandwagon based on pure bullshit. and then you jump up my ass for no reason and now Im wondering why the fuck im bothering trying to defend you from bullshit logic when your content to just spew bullshit logic all over me. I dont give a shit what you do with your vote. What was the bandwagon you were trying to stop? the one that would start with a slow chant of "RAYN WAS INACTIVE AT START" and turn to a maddening rumble of "RAYN WAS SCUMMY AT START" But that was not the point at all. It had already been clarified at that point. Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar can you explain to me why is it odd/weird/what do you call it that i posted at the start of the game and then didn't post for an hour? There is nothing about DP HERE AT ALL "WHAT DO YOU CALL IT" IS REFERING TO NOTEWORTHY. NOW YOU JUST GOT CAUGHT IN A LIE.
He is CLEARLY referencing my observation about rayn in that post. reading the thread is useful.
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On March 19 2014 09:11 Koshi wrote: Exactly my thoughts.
I am not skimming rayn atm cuz he is rayn and I need to keep up with him cuz we will be super duper scumfinding bros but I am not anymore interested in finding out what Coag means with his posts. I am simply not going to lynch Coag.
Rayn is MY super townie friend tho.... Jelly.
But yeah. I don't understand how you could NOT want to lynch coag after all this nonsense. Ragin is not a good reason and he has been bullshitting continuously since the initial pressure.
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There is no way it is only coag posting. Basically having played many games with coag my expert meta analysis says that coag rarely cares or rages this much, and since when does he say bro?
OMGUS hydra going strong. Destroy it.
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