EPTHandslaps and Fisticuff: A PYP Mini [M][T] - Page 51
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Lol.... Dunno how I could miss that post. Phoneposting sucks etc. Well, that's good then. On March 06 2014 14:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also i'll keep track of this: 1. Palmar [1,1] 2. Oatsmaster [3,1] 3. prplhz 4. Hopeless1der 5. Artanis[Xp] [11,11] 6. marvellosity 7. yamato77 8. austinmcc 9. Xatalos 10. gumshoe [2,?] 11. LSB [2,1] 12. raynpelikoneet [2,1] I picked 8 4 in the end. Seems like it wasn't such a good idea... There were less clashes than I thought. I also sent in my role choice, but apparently this choice isn't permanent, so it's not like it matters too much. A lot has happened while I was away. Mainly austin and gumshoe have come under new suspicion. Both resisted rayn's plan for bad reasons. Also LSB remains as a suspect. prphlz not so much anymore. I dunno about him, but at least he's pretty active in the discussion, so I'm not too fond of lynching him. I'm not truly sold on gumshoe. His stance against rayn here reminds me of his stance against me in GoT Mafia (I was pretty clearly townie and putting in a lot of effort, but he kept opposing me for dumb reasons). Then he pretty much went AFK and was town KP'd. On the other hand, as scum (granted it was a long time ago) he was a lot more passive and unnoticeable. Does he do this thing where he baits a lynch on himself as scum nowadays? austin... He's really focused on a pretty irrelevant topic (unlikely host speculation). I guess he does have a point, but it's not like all the roles will be greatly changed (maybe like DT, but probably not much else). I don't think it's that bad to talk about this topic in itself, but he hasn't really done anything else worthwhile. Most importantly he has done nothing to help with the D1 lynch and has just 100% focused on a pretty irrelevant branch of the PYP stuff. He's certainly null at best and slightly scummy at worst (for contributing in a way that's overall not helpful and even anti-town by distracting the discussion and undermining rayn's plan). LSB has also mostly attacked rayn's plan, but at least he had some slight contributions to scumhunting (rayn+austin+Hopeless). Although he seems VERY fast to jump to conclusions (rayn Mafia for shaky reasons, austin Mafia for one post (?), Hopeless Mafia for sheeping...). His crusade against rayn is also very tunnely and doesn't seem genuinely concerned about the best direction for town. It's more like he just wants to attack it for the sake of attacking it, not to determine if it's truly useful or not. His play is just pretty scummy and even at best it's just null. Hopeless seems to have dropped from the discussion entirely. He's an extreme sheep but I don't really think he's Mafia for it. More like just lazy/insecure. We'll see if he'll push anything of his own. I'm starting to feel pretty scum on yamato. True, he didn't pick 1 1 at the start, but even more worryingly he's become very antagonistic and useless. It's kinda like here (as scum): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/423047-got-mafia-lords-and-liars?user=yamato77 On the other hand, as town, he usually feels quite townish (see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/438132-tl-mafia-lxiv-a-game-of-intrigue?user=yamato77 - although it was a PM game so part of his contributions were in PM land). My preferred lynches would be yamato/LSB/austin atm. gumshoe doesn't really fit in my lynch candidates unless I'm convinced that this is scum gumshoe playing like this (against my experiences with him). Also someone pointed out that there isn't necessary a Survivor in this setup. And that seems to be the case currently, I guess. | ||
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On March 06 2014 11:02 austinmcc wrote: I want to talk to oats and prplhz. Working on it. On March 06 2014 11:19 austinmcc wrote: HEY PRPLHZ. YOU ARE MY PERSONAL IDOL. Do you believe rayn's plan to be the bee's knees? If no, but you had to follow it ALMOST exactly, what single modification would you make in order to create your own plan that you could sell to the voting public as entirely original and better than his? This is pretty bad from austin really. "marv, I'm totes working on finding mafia, promise, need to talk to prplhz" "prplhz, talk to me about this setup spec that i've been banging on about!" rubbish. | ||
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I'd rather simply lynch yamato on that kind of basis. | ||
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On March 06 2014 22:44 Xatalos wrote: I think gumshoe is by far the least likely one of them to be Mafia. It's more like he personally explained his distrust of rayn rather than tried to get other people to distrust him. It's just so much how he distrusted me in GoT besides me obviously pushing town agenda. But did he at least read your posts and then distrust you? Or distrust you blindly without really reading your posts as here? It's quite a significant distinction. | ||
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On March 06 2014 22:45 marvellosity wrote: But did he at least read your posts and then distrust you? Or distrust you blindly without really reading your posts as here? It's quite a significant distinction. Actually it's a bit different from here since it happened mostly in PM land at N0 before the game truly started. I started campaigning to be our House Lord and tried to convince people (gumshoe, Grack, iamperfection) to elect me. gumshoe's reaction was something like "I don't trust you, I don't want to elect you". It was a long night and eventually we elected iamperfection, but basically gumshoe's reasons for distrusting me were mostly emotional and/or senseless. It's like he automatically gets suspicious of someone trying to campaign for himself. It felt pretty similar to here where rayn was proposing his plan and kind of leading town, but gumshoe's gut reaction was just to distrust him for no good reasons. The point is, I don't necessarily think gumshoe using bad reasoning to oppose something makes him Mafia. Dunno if it makes him town either, but it feels more like the town gumshoe I've known. Has his meta shifted to be more like this as scum too? Because last game I played with him (a pretty long time ago) he was just quite passive as scum. | ||
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