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On March 11 2014 07:29 Palmar wrote: And just so it's clear I have no qualms lynching Grack either. I probably feel better about that case than this one, but rayn seems to like this one so I'm easy. You are really that convinced about rayn by now?
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On March 11 2014 07:31 IAmRobik wrote:exactly! Why would I fuck over my meta!??! I almost liked your raging better than that to be frank. Whatever, pretty sure I want to keep you around for now.
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Seal-posters should be policy lynched.
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On March 11 2014 07:34 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 07:29 justanothertownie wrote:On March 11 2014 07:29 Palmar wrote: And just so it's clear I have no qualms lynching Grack either. I probably feel better about that case than this one, but rayn seems to like this one so I'm easy. You are really that convinced about rayn by now? The points he made about templar on day 1 basically showed he was reading the thread very attentively. I am no, not entirely certain, and a lot of his other play makes me question him being town, but it's good enough reasoning for me to assume he is. Ok, the problem I have with him still stands. He goes for one lynch and shits on every discussion attempt besides that. HAVING SAID THAT I will now reread his templar stuff (old and new).
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On March 11 2014 07:55 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 07:31 IAmRobik wrote:On March 11 2014 07:16 Alakaslam wrote: Wwifomm exactly! Why would I fuck over my meta!??! ... WIFOM... Yo slam, can we get a little more input? Who is scum? Who could be scum? Who is definitely not scum?
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On March 11 2014 08:12 Alakaslam wrote: Oh Grack is likely town to me Could you explain this one in more detail?
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Ok, the case checking has become a full filter read on rayn. I have to be insane. I am still not 100% sold on him especially because of things like this:
On March 07 2014 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On Killing i am not so sure. I totally get his point about the contradiction, but the thing is it's not only mafia that contradicts themself and to be honest what does mafia!Killing gain in calling boone not mafia and then calling her mafia? At least half of the town at that time thought boone was mafia and given Killing's conclusion (boone best lynch) why not just be consistent in his read? Of course it's possible that he jsut fucked up his thought process as scum in one post but that's not usually what mafia does because they are more careful in what they post. I have VERY RARELY seen mafia contradict themselves in single post like that. I don't understand why robik just decides Killing is mafia based on that and does not investigate that any further, especially given that he was weighing the lynch between VE/Killing at the eod1. Holy shit is that bad. Especially if you are grilling people for contradictions all the fucking time.
I can see where he is coming from regarding templar but I don't know if I want to lynch that guy over Grack atm tbh (I don't understand why rayn is defending Grack all game). I don't remember this to be Gracks townplay.
General complaint: Rayn, your new case on templar reads more like a summary of what he did than an explanation for why he is scum for the most part (I know it can be figured out what you mean usually) and I am not a fan of linking posts instead of quoting them. It makes it harder to follow your thought process.
Situation right now: Would lynch into Grack/Templar.
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I said I am not sold 100% but he is leaning on the town side. I would definitely not lynch him over the likes of Grack.
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On March 11 2014 09:09 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 08:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote: slam you are not kenpachi
you are not hijole
you do not see with the eyes of the fish and you do not comprehend the ways of chupazi
you are a heretic
svengali curses you
and if you are voting me by the end of the day, I curse you by the songs of andale pues
JAT is top town Slam is probably town Robik is leaning town Dandel is light town
Grack is null
Rayn/Palmar/Boone all lean scummy
I want you to vote Rayn today rofl Slam you are not ohshit Scum curse me And if I'm voting you by the end of the day you will curse me by the songs of let's go Seems things lookin up Anyway I still have yet to see reason to moov my vote Oh god, lol.
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On March 11 2014 09:11 GGTeMpLaR wrote: you mean reads like an incorrect summary
I don't know what town is doing this game Well, we lynched scum yesterday. That's a start. Do you not include yourself in the word "town"?
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On March 11 2014 09:12 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 05:16 IAmRobik wrote:On March 09 2014 07:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote: looks like the Killing
has become the Killed. I totally forgot about this post. Rayn, I'm never lynching Templar I'll never be able to explain this to anyone, but scum is unable to make this post. Like, my left pinky toe is on the line here if Templar flips mafia. You don't seem to value that one very much dude...
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On March 11 2014 09:17 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 09:13 justanothertownie wrote:On March 11 2014 09:11 GGTeMpLaR wrote: you mean reads like an incorrect summary
I don't know what town is doing this game Well, we lynched scum yesterday. That's a start. Do you not include yourself in the word "town"? weak You got me there.
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It's not that rayn hasn't hard defended mafia as town before but that just happens sometimes if you are an outspoken crusader. If you are town and you don't put up a fight tomorrow I will be seriously pissed. I will take giving up as scumclaim.
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On March 11 2014 19:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's the point. He calls people scum without telling why they are scum. Did you read his defence? He twists every piece of argument into something that it isn't and calls me names.
rofl, i am not switching my vote. I yell you at post game if you don't see why that dude is mafia. True but to be fair this seems like a dm thing somehow. Just look at boone - she does exactly the same. Or are you calling both of them mafia?
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On March 11 2014 21:13 Grackaroni wrote: I'm really not a fan of the Templar lynch. We would probably be a lot better off lynching into Dandel or Boone. Ok, could give us a more general view of this game? Also, please give reasons for those 2 targets.
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On March 11 2014 21:14 Grackaroni wrote: Probably going to end up on me though lol. If you keep on playing like you do that is very possible. So if you are town start doing something.
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On March 11 2014 21:17 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 11 2014 21:13 Grackaroni wrote: I'm really not a fan of the Templar lynch. We would probably be a lot better off lynching into Dandel or Boone. Elaborate on this please. Also why is Templar not a good lynch? I think he's had some good posts. Specifically the ones about Boone not changing her reads after still thinking it was both me and Dandel after not getting shot as the medic. Additionally, I don't think that there's anything wrong with him changing his read on me. He thought that I was town entirely for sheeping his argument on VE, who he thought was scum. Of course his read is going to be altered after VE flips town. You don't seem to think Palmar is scum btw?
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On March 11 2014 21:25 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 21:15 justanothertownie wrote:On March 11 2014 21:13 Grackaroni wrote: I'm really not a fan of the Templar lynch. We would probably be a lot better off lynching into Dandel or Boone. Ok, could give us a more general view of this game? Also, please give reasons for those 2 targets. There's not a lot of other people really to consider. I think Palmar has put in more effort into this game than I would really expect from his scum game. In any event I don't think scum would be bold enough to switch his vote in the way that he did on day1, first planting his vote on VE and then swapping at the last second to Killing. The only way I see him being scum is if he is with Dandel. I think that you are probably too active to be scum, but I haven't actually bothered to filter you. Slam is town Boone just defends herself a lot and has one of the shorter filters/it seems kind of strange that her reads didn't change after the night kill. Not really the best way to PoE but I think the chances of her being mafia are pretty high when you compare it to everybody else in the game excluding myself. Dandel's vote is just really suspicious and deserves a lot more attention than it has gotten. Dandel didn't mention anything about VE or Killing all day long and kept talking about sticking to the Templar train and then he switched at the very last second. If he thought Killing was town and VE was mafia then he should have been in thread trying to push people into lynching VE over Killing like I was. To say nothing and then kill VE is suspicious. How is it more suspicious than to actually push for a VE lynch?
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On March 11 2014 21:28 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 21:27 justanothertownie wrote:On March 11 2014 21:25 Grackaroni wrote:On March 11 2014 21:15 justanothertownie wrote:On March 11 2014 21:13 Grackaroni wrote: I'm really not a fan of the Templar lynch. We would probably be a lot better off lynching into Dandel or Boone. Ok, could give us a more general view of this game? Also, please give reasons for those 2 targets. There's not a lot of other people really to consider. I think Palmar has put in more effort into this game than I would really expect from his scum game. In any event I don't think scum would be bold enough to switch his vote in the way that he did on day1, first planting his vote on VE and then swapping at the last second to Killing. The only way I see him being scum is if he is with Dandel. I think that you are probably too active to be scum, but I haven't actually bothered to filter you. Slam is town Boone just defends herself a lot and has one of the shorter filters/it seems kind of strange that her reads didn't change after the night kill. Not really the best way to PoE but I think the chances of her being mafia are pretty high when you compare it to everybody else in the game excluding myself. Dandel's vote is just really suspicious and deserves a lot more attention than it has gotten. Dandel didn't mention anything about VE or Killing all day long and kept talking about sticking to the Templar train and then he switched at the very last second. If he thought Killing was town and VE was mafia then he should have been in thread trying to push people into lynching VE over Killing like I was. To say nothing and then kill VE is suspicious. How is it more suspicious than to actually push for a VE lynch? Because he didn't want to be seen as pushing for VE and then changed his vote onto VE at the last second and came out the next day and said he thought Killing was town. If you think Killing is town then you say, "I think Killing is town" when he is getting lynched. The problem with this is how fast it went down. He probably didn't even have the time to justify his vote. Apart from that I don't see how voting without justification would make look less suspicious.
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On March 11 2014 21:25 Grackaroni wrote: I think Palmar has put in more effort into this game than I would really expect from his scum game. In any event I don't think scum would be bold enough to switch his vote in the way that he did on day1, first planting his vote on VE and then swapping at the last second to Killing. The only way I see him being scum is if he is with Dandel. I take it you have seen Palmars scum game? It has to be lurk city by your description. If you expect scum Palmar to be lazy I don't really follow your townread here.
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