• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:26
CEST 08:26
KST 15:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists12[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced10Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail0MaNa leaves Team Liquid19
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A Data needed BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro24 Group F
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1892 users

[M][T] Foundation Mafia - Page 16

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 20 Next All
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 10 2014 22:29 GMT
#2325
On March 11 2014 07:29 Palmar wrote:
And just so it's clear I have no qualms lynching Grack either. I probably feel better about that case than this one, but rayn seems to like this one so I'm easy.

You are really that convinced about rayn by now?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 10 2014 22:32 GMT
#2327
On March 11 2014 07:31 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 07:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Wwifomm

exactly! Why would I fuck over my meta!??!

I almost liked your raging better than that to be frank. Whatever, pretty sure I want to keep you around for now.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 10 2014 22:33 GMT
#2328
Seal-posters should be policy lynched.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 10 2014 22:37 GMT
#2330
On March 11 2014 07:34 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 07:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 11 2014 07:29 Palmar wrote:
And just so it's clear I have no qualms lynching Grack either. I probably feel better about that case than this one, but rayn seems to like this one so I'm easy.

You are really that convinced about rayn by now?

The points he made about templar on day 1 basically showed he was reading the thread very attentively. I am no, not entirely certain, and a lot of his other play makes me question him being town, but it's good enough reasoning for me to assume he is.

Ok, the problem I have with him still stands. He goes for one lynch and shits on every discussion attempt besides that.
HAVING SAID THAT I will now reread his templar stuff (old and new).
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 10 2014 22:59 GMT
#2336
On March 11 2014 07:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 07:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 11 2014 07:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Wwifomm

exactly! Why would I fuck over my meta!??!

...

WIFOM...

Yo slam, can we get a little more input? Who is scum? Who could be scum? Who is definitely not scum?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 10 2014 23:13 GMT
#2342
On March 11 2014 08:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Oh Grack is likely town to me

Could you explain this one in more detail?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 00:00 GMT
#2358
Ok, the case checking has become a full filter read on rayn. I have to be insane.
I am still not 100% sold on him especially because of things like this:
On March 07 2014 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On Killing i am not so sure. I totally get his point about the contradiction, but the thing is it's not only mafia that contradicts themself and to be honest what does mafia!Killing gain in calling boone not mafia and then calling her mafia? At least half of the town at that time thought boone was mafia and given Killing's conclusion (boone best lynch) why not just be consistent in his read? Of course it's possible that he jsut fucked up his thought process as scum in one post but that's not usually what mafia does because they are more careful in what they post. I have VERY RARELY seen mafia contradict themselves in single post like that. I don't understand why robik just decides Killing is mafia based on that and does not investigate that any further, especially given that he was weighing the lynch between VE/Killing at the eod1.

Holy shit is that bad. Especially if you are grilling people for contradictions all the fucking time.

I can see where he is coming from regarding templar but I don't know if I want to lynch that guy over Grack atm tbh (I don't understand why rayn is defending Grack all game). I don't remember this to be Gracks townplay.

General complaint: Rayn, your new case on templar reads more like a summary of what he did than an explanation for why he is scum for the most part (I know it can be figured out what you mean usually) and I am not a fan of linking posts instead of quoting them. It makes it harder to follow your thought process.

Situation right now:
Would lynch into Grack/Templar.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 00:05 GMT
#2360
I said I am not sold 100% but he is leaning on the town side. I would definitely not lynch him over the likes of Grack.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 00:11 GMT
#2365
On March 11 2014 09:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 08:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
slam you are not kenpachi

you are not hijole

you do not see with the eyes of the fish and you do not comprehend the ways of chupazi

you are a heretic

svengali curses you

and if you are voting me by the end of the day, I curse you by the songs of andale pues


JAT is top town
Slam is probably town
Robik is leaning town
Dandel is light town


Grack is null

Rayn/Palmar/Boone all lean scummy

I want you to vote Rayn today

rofl

Slam you are not ohshit

Scum curse me

And if I'm voting you by the end of the day you will curse me by the songs of let's go

Seems things lookin up

Anyway I still have yet to see reason to moov my vote

Oh god, lol.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 00:13 GMT
#2368
On March 11 2014 09:11 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
you mean reads like an incorrect summary

I don't know what town is doing this game

Well, we lynched scum yesterday. That's a start.
Do you not include yourself in the word "town"?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 00:14 GMT
#2370
On March 11 2014 09:12 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 05:16 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 09 2014 07:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
looks like the Killing

has become the Killed.

I totally forgot about this post.

Rayn, I'm never lynching Templar

I'll never be able to explain this to anyone, but scum is unable to make this post. Like, my left pinky toe is on the line here if Templar flips mafia.

You don't seem to value that one very much dude...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 00:28 GMT
#2372
On March 11 2014 09:17 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 09:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 11 2014 09:11 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
you mean reads like an incorrect summary

I don't know what town is doing this game

Well, we lynched scum yesterday. That's a start.
Do you not include yourself in the word "town"?


weak

You got me there.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 00:39 GMT
#2375
It's not that rayn hasn't hard defended mafia as town before but that just happens sometimes if you are an outspoken crusader.
If you are town and you don't put up a fight tomorrow I will be seriously pissed. I will take giving up as scumclaim.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 12:00 GMT
#2426
On March 11 2014 19:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's the point. He calls people scum without telling why they are scum.
Did you read his defence? He twists every piece of argument into something that it isn't and calls me names.

rofl, i am not switching my vote. I yell you at post game if you don't see why that dude is mafia.

True but to be fair this seems like a dm thing somehow. Just look at boone - she does exactly the same. Or are you calling both of them mafia?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 12:15 GMT
#2429
On March 11 2014 21:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm really not a fan of the Templar lynch. We would probably be a lot better off lynching into Dandel or Boone.

Ok, could give us a more general view of this game? Also, please give reasons for those 2 targets.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 12:15 GMT
#2433
On March 11 2014 21:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Probably going to end up on me though lol.

If you keep on playing like you do that is very possible. So if you are town start doing something.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 12:24 GMT
#2435
On March 11 2014 21:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 11 2014 21:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm really not a fan of the Templar lynch. We would probably be a lot better off lynching into Dandel or Boone.

Elaborate on this please. Also why is Templar not a good lynch?

I think he's had some good posts. Specifically the ones about Boone not changing her reads after still thinking it was both me and Dandel after not getting shot as the medic. Additionally, I don't think that there's anything wrong with him changing his read on me. He thought that I was town entirely for sheeping his argument on VE, who he thought was scum. Of course his read is going to be altered after VE flips town.

You don't seem to think Palmar is scum btw?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 12:27 GMT
#2441
On March 11 2014 21:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 21:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 11 2014 21:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm really not a fan of the Templar lynch. We would probably be a lot better off lynching into Dandel or Boone.

Ok, could give us a more general view of this game? Also, please give reasons for those 2 targets.

There's not a lot of other people really to consider. I think Palmar has put in more effort into this game than I would really expect from his scum game. In any event I don't think scum would be bold enough to switch his vote in the way that he did on day1, first planting his vote on VE and then swapping at the last second to Killing. The only way I see him being scum is if he is with Dandel.

I think that you are probably too active to be scum, but I haven't actually bothered to filter you.

Slam is town

Boone just defends herself a lot and has one of the shorter filters/it seems kind of strange that her reads didn't change after the night kill. Not really the best way to PoE but I think the chances of her being mafia are pretty high when you compare it to everybody else in the game excluding myself.

Dandel's vote is just really suspicious and deserves a lot more attention than it has gotten. Dandel didn't mention anything about VE or Killing all day long and kept talking about sticking to the Templar train and then he switched at the very last second. If he thought Killing was town and VE was mafia then he should have been in thread trying to push people into lynching VE over Killing like I was. To say nothing and then kill VE is suspicious.

How is it more suspicious than to actually push for a VE lynch?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 12:50 GMT
#2456
On March 11 2014 21:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 21:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 11 2014 21:25 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 11 2014 21:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 11 2014 21:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm really not a fan of the Templar lynch. We would probably be a lot better off lynching into Dandel or Boone.

Ok, could give us a more general view of this game? Also, please give reasons for those 2 targets.

There's not a lot of other people really to consider. I think Palmar has put in more effort into this game than I would really expect from his scum game. In any event I don't think scum would be bold enough to switch his vote in the way that he did on day1, first planting his vote on VE and then swapping at the last second to Killing. The only way I see him being scum is if he is with Dandel.

I think that you are probably too active to be scum, but I haven't actually bothered to filter you.

Slam is town

Boone just defends herself a lot and has one of the shorter filters/it seems kind of strange that her reads didn't change after the night kill. Not really the best way to PoE but I think the chances of her being mafia are pretty high when you compare it to everybody else in the game excluding myself.

Dandel's vote is just really suspicious and deserves a lot more attention than it has gotten. Dandel didn't mention anything about VE or Killing all day long and kept talking about sticking to the Templar train and then he switched at the very last second. If he thought Killing was town and VE was mafia then he should have been in thread trying to push people into lynching VE over Killing like I was. To say nothing and then kill VE is suspicious.

How is it more suspicious than to actually push for a VE lynch?

Because he didn't want to be seen as pushing for VE and then changed his vote onto VE at the last second and came out the next day and said he thought Killing was town. If you think Killing is town then you say, "I think Killing is town" when he is getting lynched.

The problem with this is how fast it went down. He probably didn't even have the time to justify his vote. Apart from that I don't see how voting without justification would make look less suspicious.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 12:58 GMT
#2461
On March 11 2014 21:25 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Palmar has put in more effort into this game than I would really expect from his scum game. In any event I don't think scum would be bold enough to switch his vote in the way that he did on day1, first planting his vote on VE and then swapping at the last second to Killing. The only way I see him being scum is if he is with Dandel.

I take it you have seen Palmars scum game? It has to be lurk city by your description. If you expect scum Palmar to be lazy I don't really follow your townread here.
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
GSL CK #3: Rogue vs SHIN
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
-ZergGirl 135
Nina 12
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5881
BeSt 1629
Hyuk 630
scan(afreeca) 571
Sharp 47
soO 37
Larva 34
Bale 19
NaDa 18
SilentControl 13
[ Show more ]
Icarus 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm126
League of Legends
JimRising 752
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K905
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King192
Other Games
summit1g10416
C9.Mang0375
Trikslyr22
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick681
Counter-Strike
PGL134
Other Games
BasetradeTV6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH293
• practicex 29
• Dystopia_ 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1192
• Rush1049
• Stunt503
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
3h 35m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4h 35m
CranKy Ducklings
17h 35m
Escore
1d 3h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 4h
OSC
1d 8h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 20h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
IPSL
2 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Ladder Legends
3 days
BSL
3 days
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
3 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-15
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.