[M][T] Foundation Mafia - Page 16

On March 04 2014 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Not necessarily. I might know what he is after but i am not sure.

I liked Oats' point on him as i said. I don't know, why are you asking this, was i not clear enough? That's like the only thing that stood out for me besides what i have talking about / asking in thread but it's not enough for me to call austin totally scum for it, especially considering i have a history of totally misreading him in exactly 100% of our games together.

On March 04 2014 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes he is a troll but there is also this thing between his town ans scum play whereas as scum he only trolls and as town he trolls and actually forms reads and says stuff. Do you think he hasn't said anything useful that counts as contributing?

On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:

Well that is just wrong

On March 04 2014 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Like this post is really good in my opinion because JAT's post is really bad.

On March 04 2014 22:06 justanothertownie wrote:

Hm, ok. I didn't remember that. Also I think it is a pretty weak reason for a scumread. Especially since what oats said is not true.

On March 04 2014 22:10 justanothertownie wrote:

Why is it good? What does it achieve?

On March 04 2014 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Like this post is really good in my opinion because JAT's post is really bad.

On March 04 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:

What have i missed, explain please.

On March 04 2014 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Random lynching can't be a good discussion starter if it's terrible play. That's just not possible.

On March 04 2014 22:03 Palmar wrote:


I think he's a troll and I have no idea about his alignment.

On March 04 2014 22:05 Palmar wrote:
tbh I haven't even bothered reading Dandel, I really cba going through that shit.

On March 04 2014 22:15 justanothertownie wrote:

It's a good discussion starter because it get's people talking. That is what I wanted to say. You could rightfully argue that there are more productive discussion topics.
My main point here was that the act of random lynching in itself is bad.

On March 04 2014 22:13 justanothertownie wrote:

Well austin mentions boone once in a question to another player because that player talked about her. How is talking about boone the only substantial thing austin says then and why should he have/post a read on her especially? Don't get me wrong I won't claim that austin contributed much but that statement from oats is just wrong.

On March 04 2014 12:45 austinmcc wrote:
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?

On March 04 2014 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:

If you acknowledge that random lynching is bad, then you should also think noone should support it because why would they if it's bad? Therefore it can't be a good discussion starter as you can't possibly draw any conclusions from people's responses because everyone should act the same, cut off bad stuff from the thread. If it's a good discussion starter it can't be bad because in your opinion supporting/not supporting it are both valid opinions (given proper) which contradicts the statement that it's terrible play.

This is also to Palmar, because the next post from Dandel where he says "every lynch, even random lynching gives us information so you are wrong etc." makes me think this is what he caught from JAT's post i brought up, because those two statements actually do not go together.

I think random lynching is terrible, i don't think it should be discussed, because you can only support it and not support it which means you want to or don't want to lynch VE, and it tells absolutely nothing about your alignment in comparsion (or regardless of) to VE's. But if people keep discussing this shit i try to draw conclusions from what people said, like this one, where i think JAT's post is really bad and i don't know why he made it.


The thing is, he dropped a random question to robik and went away. I can see him doing that as town aswell but the fact is to me it looks like he is sort of defending boone rather than trying to find out what rob's reads were about. The way he words his former question is also really weird.

Like he said:

He basically asks rob to pick a read from the pool boone/ggtemplar/killing. Like it's fucking weird in the first place and idk why would he do so in the first place? There is no follow up like "why did you pick that specific read", just sort of a defense after rob gives his read and then nothing. I don't get if austin even cares about who rob talks about... The whole thing reads like "what the fuck" to me...

From me, i am not sure if Oats is right or wrong or if this was what he is after in the first place, i am not sure if Oats is even town, but pressuring austin to talk and to give conclusions is the correct play regardless of anyone's alignment. Because austin doesn't reach to fucking conclusions before i get mad to him and start to tunnel him. That's why i always think he is town, he just posts random questions and shit that looks fancy but it never leads to anything until it's too late for me to think he is town.

So i, myself, want to pressure him into giving some concrete shit from the beginning. And what he said about boone/robik is weird as fuck to me for the reasons i stated above.