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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 04 2014 13:47 GMT
#321
On March 04 2014 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT (or anyone) is there something you want me to talk about before i disappear for a while?

I would like to hear an opinion on boone and see if you are seeing what I am seeing but I guess we can also discuss this later when she posted a bit more. I will be available for a pretty long time today.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2014 13:47 GMT
#322
On March 04 2014 22:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Except rayn's stuff on austin is worse than Oats' because that's not at all what austin said.

Can you explain to me what austin said because that's exactly what he said.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2014 13:48 GMT
#323
On March 04 2014 22:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT (or anyone) is there something you want me to talk about before i disappear for a while?

I would like to hear an opinion on boone and see if you are seeing what I am seeing but I guess we can also discuss this later when she posted a bit more. I will be available for a pretty long time today.

Again yes, but only after Rob answers me about boone.
table for two on a tv tray
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 04 2014 13:49 GMT
#324
On March 04 2014 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 22:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Except rayn's stuff on austin is worse than Oats' because that's not at all what austin said.

Can you explain to me what austin said because that's exactly what he said.

He asked for actual reads instead of wishy-washy general statements.

You're talking about stuff like the pool of newbies or whatever, I don't see anything like that from austin.

In fact, you are the only one in the game that suggested something like that, but here you are attacking austin for it when he didn't.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2014 13:54 GMT
#325
On March 04 2014 22:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 22:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Except rayn's stuff on austin is worse than Oats' because that's not at all what austin said.

Can you explain to me what austin said because that's exactly what he said.

He asked for actual reads instead of wishy-washy general statements.

You're talking about stuff like the pool of newbies or whatever, I don't see anything like that from austin.

In fact, you are the only one in the game that suggested something like that, but here you are attacking austin for it when he didn't.

I don't get a fucking thing about this post.
Robik said: "I think boone, ggtemplar and killing seem all scummy because they are different than usually as town"
austin: "can you elaborate on 1-2 of those reads"
Robik: [stuff about boone]
austin: "okay that seems reasonable" [some questions]

What i picked up considering the red part is the starting point i don't get the green follow up. How is this how it didn't happen?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2014 14:03 GMT
#326
Actually who the fuck is Joey?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 04 2014 14:05 GMT
#327
On March 04 2014 17:51 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 15:24 Alakaslam wrote:
PALMAR SPEAK OR LOSE THE CROWDS

I CHALLENGE YE!


I was asleep.

Well, you see, I see that Iceland and I'm like "Canada?" Because u know, merikanz stoopid

XD

Pardon the faux pas
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2014 14:07 GMT
#328
Okay yes, i want to hear austin's read on boone, killing and GGtemplar.
Now i am seriously off for a while.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 04 2014 14:09 GMT
#329
On March 04 2014 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually who the fuck is Joey?

Killing I think.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 04 2014 14:29 GMT
#330
On March 04 2014 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 22:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 22:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Except rayn's stuff on austin is worse than Oats' because that's not at all what austin said.

Can you explain to me what austin said because that's exactly what he said.

He asked for actual reads instead of wishy-washy general statements.

You're talking about stuff like the pool of newbies or whatever, I don't see anything like that from austin.

In fact, you are the only one in the game that suggested something like that, but here you are attacking austin for it when he didn't.

I don't get a fucking thing about this post.
Robik said: "I think boone, ggtemplar and killing seem all scummy because they are different than usually as town"
austin: "can you elaborate on 1-2 of those reads"
Robik: [stuff about boone]
austin: "okay that seems reasonable" [some questions]

What i picked up considering the red part is the starting point i don't get the green follow up. How is this how it didn't happen?

Robik: "DM are scummy, everyone is scummy. Look at me I'm so town cuz I call everybody scum without calling anybody scum"
austin: "Bro can you like actually read 1-2 people instead of throwing out useless fluff generalizazions"
robik: "I'll give one thing that looks like a read and then just repeat how everyone is scummy anyways because I'm scum myself and it's hard to come up with actual reads"
austin: "kk that's more clear and it really is my fault this happened because I shouldn't even have given "1 read" as an option jesus my name is austin and i dont know what i'm doing"
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 04 2014 14:30 GMT
#331
I think joey is donk but I don't know who joey donk is.
Computer says mafia
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 04 2014 15:00 GMT
#332
Never heard of Joey, didn't even see on the player list.

Cool.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 04 2014 15:01 GMT
#333
Who mentioned any Joey?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 15:57 GMT
#334
I have no idea what JAT is doing other than being intentionally useless.

On March 04 2014 22:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 22:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik why are you picking on boone?
Can you give me a train of thought what she's doing in your opinion?


Do you not think his point on boone is fair?

Not necessarily. I might know what he is after but i am not sure.
On March 04 2014 21:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:08 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Slam is most likely town.


Do you have any other reads?

Austin top scumread atm but i need to hear more from him.

Would you mind explaining? I get the slam read, just the austin read.

I liked Oats' point on him as i said. I don't know, why are you asking this, was i not clear enough? That's like the only thing that stood out for me besides what i have talking about / asking in thread but it's not enough for me to call austin totally scum for it, especially considering i have a history of totally misreading him in exactly 100% of our games together.

Hm, ok. I didn't remember that. Also I think it is a pretty weak reason for a scumread. Especially since what oats said is not true.

What have i missed, explain please.

Well austin mentions boone once in a question to another player because that player talked about her. How is talking about boone the only substantial thing austin says then and why should he have/post a read on her especially? Don't get me wrong I won't claim that austin contributed much but that statement from oats is just wrong.

Like this post. I have no idea what or why JAT defended austin when he has no idea whether austin is town.
Weird defense = scummy defense.

and his first post after being back feels really contributing for the sake of contributing.
On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 17:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey Palmar, which RNG supporting dude is scum?


I don't know yet.

Scum is going to win this game super easily anyway, everyone is so invested in trolling that I don't think it really matters what we do.

It would be splendid if you and a few other traditionally useless people tried your best to contribute this game. I literally have exactly one weak read this game. That's it. I think Robik's point is valid and means he's at least reading the thread quite intently.

There's also the thing where we need a few people to just write a fuckton more, so people get bored.

Well, considering you started the trolling this is a little hypocritical, isn't it? Anyways you are right people like grack/killing should start playing seriously now. Like you do now.
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 18:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar, do you know if Austin being against policy lynching and trolling is normal?

Policy lynching and random lynching are not the same. Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 18:53 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's basically why i asked about it (the VE thing, i got that). But another thing is who do you think are the people not quality posters?


I don't really see where you're going with this, but I'm sure you have a reason for asking so I'll give you an answer. Also I'd like to clarify that this quality posting thing is basically a list of people who tend to, or I know can, post very transparently on day 1, thus making them easy town reads if they are town.

Me/you/ve, possibly grack/austin.

This is the list of people I know are able to post coherently enough on day 1 to assume a leadership position and look town. That leaves a fuckton.

Now there's a lot of people I haven't played with before here (ggtemplar, boone, killing, robik) and then there's a few resident trolls (dandel, oats, slam). I just can't remember anything about justanothertownie, I'm sure I've played with him but he doesn't stick out.

If all the new people post very well (see suki/balla, I was impressed) this won't be a problem. Also slam and oats have actually been useful this game, so that might also solve what I thought might be a problem.

So my assumption is that I'm only gonna get very few people who don't troll/lurk on day 1 and post the quality/quantity required for me to make a town read on them early.

I think the only game we played together was Hogwarts. We lynched you day1 (so it is not surprising that you don't remember that much) I took over your vigilante role and shot scum.

Literally nothing about who is town or scum at all even though there has been like 8-9 pages by then.
No gg, No skill.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 04 2014 16:26 GMT
#335
man I'm so like triple confirmed town by now, this is great.

If all other townies would also become triple confirmed that would be great.
Computer says mafia
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 04 2014 16:29 GMT
#336
On March 05 2014 00:01 Alakaslam wrote:
Who mentioned any Joey?


I'm Joey. DM people might refer to me as so. Here are my thoughts as I just woke up and read through the thread.

Palmar: I like you've taken up a leadership role in the game and feel that you're trying to give it the direction. The only problem with what i've seen from you is that you've replied to a much of people and asked them questions about their posts / said what they've posted is not alignment indicative but you haven't given a single read on anyone. Do you have any reads yet on anyone? Typically in video mafia, when a scum leads the town it's exactly in the fashion you're doing so. They'll become a sort of traffic cop where they direct everyone but never really gives anything themselves until they know they can safely do so. I wouldn't say you're a super scum read for me as of right now but I'd like to hear some reads from you as mentioned above.

I obviously agree that RLing is not the way to go and also agree that disagreeing with the RL does not neccesarily mean that you're town or maf. I don't know if policy RL is something around here but I don't think we should do it this game if it is.

My current reads

I still like austin from his posts earlier last night, I explained in an earlier post even though it was short and sweet.
I also like rayne after reading what happened during my sleep. He was one of the more active posters that wasn't just filling the screen with trolling which I typically appreciate. Aside from that, he seems like a town that actually trying to piece together the pieces.
Alakzam is really weird for me. The majority of his posts were coherent and logical prior to GGtemplar voting on him but right after that (TOP page 11), he kinda goes full crazy and his post quality drops way down. I don't know if that means something but it's just something I noticed. Maybe a typical TL player can clue me in if that's normal or something.
Boone's first post was also obviously super scummy. I might actually be leaning her neutral because she does get hyper defensive when she's town but I wouldn't classify her as so. My first post was also super fucking awkward lol.

Some questions I have for people:

Boone: What are your reads right now?
Palmar: What are your reads right now?
VE: I took you for a more active player. Why you lurking? or are you always this lurky.

I'm not sure if early reads aren't a thing in TL mafia but that's typically what helps me to formulate my circles.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 04 2014 16:35 GMT
#337
I don't think I've ever seen alakasalama post coherent and logical
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 04 2014 16:35 GMT
#338
I don't really do the reads thing. I usually have a few people I like and a few I dislike, then I wait and see how the day develops. I'll respond in more detail tonight.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 04 2014 16:42 GMT
#339
I like Oats' effort level this game. I think he may be town.
Computer says mafia
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2014 16:44 GMT
#340
lol Oats and Rayn are both buddying you so hard.
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