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On March 04 2014 18:27 Oatsmaster wrote:Like this post. Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 13:33 austinmcc wrote:On March 04 2014 12:54 IAmRobik wrote:On March 04 2014 12:45 austinmcc wrote:On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys. Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign. Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads? Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia. In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players. kk, that's more clear. Do you weigh boone not wanting to vote VE, in and of itself, as pointing towards her alignment? (her, yes?). Even if it's outweighed by the contradiction with liking RNG, does the no vote itself do anything for you? Also. Are you robik? Its odd for me that Austin is talking about boone as the only substantial part of his filter but never gives a read on her. Or anyone at all.
This is actually a valid point. Repeatedly asking questions without providing your own conclusion can both be town move (interrogating) or scum move (posting with no content). I don't remember if austin ever did anything with the train of thought he was asking robik about so there's that, if he just asked questions to not reach any conclusions I think you're right it looks pretty bad.
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On March 04 2014 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's basically why i asked about it (the VE thing, i got that). But another thing is who do you think are the people not quality posters?
I don't really see where you're going with this, but I'm sure you have a reason for asking so I'll give you an answer. Also I'd like to clarify that this quality posting thing is basically a list of people who tend to, or I know can, post very transparently on day 1, thus making them easy town reads if they are town.
Me/you/ve, possibly grack/austin.
This is the list of people I know are able to post coherently enough on day 1 to assume a leadership position and look town. That leaves a fuckton.
Now there's a lot of people I haven't played with before here (ggtemplar, boone, killing, robik) and then there's a few resident trolls (dandel, oats, slam). I just can't remember anything about justanothertownie, I'm sure I've played with him but he doesn't stick out.
If all the new people post very well (see suki/balla, I was impressed) this won't be a problem. Also slam and oats have actually been useful this game, so that might also solve what I thought might be a problem.
So my assumption is that I'm only gonna get very few people who don't troll/lurk on day 1 and post the quality/quantity required for me to make a town read on them early.
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On March 04 2014 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Slam is most likely town.
Do you have any other reads?
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Yeah that's mainly why i asked. I can now see better what you were most likely thinking because i didn't find many incoherent people, especially because i like Oats and Slam this game. Oats had a really good point on Austin imo.
We lynch Grackaroni if he decides to troll, no fucking trolling because when he tries to play he is actually good or readable if he is mafia.
I am looking forward to robik/boone/killing interactions, i WOULD think they can read each other to some extent, and rob seems to be doing a good job there (also might add GGtemplar here). Rob however knows how he played in the last game so i would not draw any definite conclusions about it yet. I wanna see how that all unfolds.
justanothertownie is decent. Also posts a decent amount as either alignment and i think he is quite readable. I'd put him into same category as non-troll!Grack.
Dandel we just figure out if he is scum or town and kill him if he is scum. 
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On March 04 2014 19:08 Palmar wrote:Do you have any other reads?
Austin top scumread atm but i need to hear more from him.
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I like your plan.
The one thing that stood out in your post is your thoughts on ggtemplar. I have no reason to believe anything he says until he starts explaining his thought process. These new kids all keep talking about "I'm reading you scum" or "I'm reading you town" but there seems to be little behind those reads except some vague meta feels.
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On March 04 2014 19:21 Palmar wrote:
I like your plan.
The one thing that stood out in your post is your thoughts on ggtemplar. I have no reason to believe anything he says until he starts explaining his thought process. These new kids all keep talking about "I'm reading you scum" or "I'm reading you town" but there seems to be little behind those reads except some vague meta feels.
The point is that's what they do in video mafia. Draw reactions, fake drawing reactions etc. IT's really easy to attack them but it's not alignment indicative yet. They have their own way of getting reads and/or starting the game and it's easy to call them out for it but it does not achieve anything because they would do that as either alignment.
You just get a shitfest which ends up in TL guys accusing them and the other way around.
At least Robik was able to "adjust" to forum mafia play a bit after the game start so that's what i am expecting from him and from other people. I know GGtemplar has played many games here and he seems the most "off" from the group because that's not what he usually does.
I actually want to ask GGtemplar why did you vote for the people you voted for?
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EBWOP: ...i except also from other video mafia players to do so too.
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Robik why are you picking on boone?
Can you give me a train of thought what she's doing in your opinion?
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On March 04 2014 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 19:21 Palmar wrote:
I like your plan.
The one thing that stood out in your post is your thoughts on ggtemplar. I have no reason to believe anything he says until he starts explaining his thought process. These new kids all keep talking about "I'm reading you scum" or "I'm reading you town" but there seems to be little behind those reads except some vague meta feels. The point is that's what they do in video mafia. Draw reactions, fake drawing reactions etc. IT's really easy to attack them but it's not alignment indicative yet. They have their own way of getting reads and/or starting the game and it's easy to call them out for it but it does not achieve anything because they would do that as either alignment. You just get a shitfest which ends up in TL guys accusing them and the other way around. At least Robik was able to "adjust" to forum mafia play a bit after the game start so that's what i am expecting from him and from other people. I know GGtemplar has played many games here and he seems the most "off" from the group because that's not what he usually does. I actually want to ask GGtemplar why did you vote for the people you voted for?
Exactly why I pointed out ggtemplar. Robik actually gave good reasons for everything he did, templar just randomly voted people.
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On March 04 2014 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik why are you picking on boone?
Can you give me a train of thought what she's doing in your opinion?
Do you not think his point on boone is fair?
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I could sheep alakasalam on boone
THE WAFFLES
THE OPTIONS LEFT OPEN
THE CHAINSAWS
The only thing that suggest it may be town is that HeIsRobik also joined in on the fun.
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Plammer why do you have a townread on rayn?
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On March 04 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 17:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey Palmar, which RNG supporting dude is scum?
I don't know yet. Scum is going to win this game super easily anyway, everyone is so invested in trolling that I don't think it really matters what we do. It would be splendid if you and a few other traditionally useless people tried your best to contribute this game. I literally have exactly one weak read this game. That's it. I think Robik's point is valid and means he's at least reading the thread quite intently. There's also the thing where we need a few people to just write a fuckton more, so people get bored.
Well, considering you started the trolling this is a little hypocritical, isn't it? Anyways you are right people like grack/killing should start playing seriously now. Like you do now.
On March 04 2014 18:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar, do you know if Austin being against policy lynching and trolling is normal?
Policy lynching and random lynching are not the same. Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.
On March 04 2014 18:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's basically why i asked about it (the VE thing, i got that). But another thing is who do you think are the people not quality posters? I don't really see where you're going with this, but I'm sure you have a reason for asking so I'll give you an answer. Also I'd like to clarify that this quality posting thing is basically a list of people who tend to, or I know can, post very transparently on day 1, thus making them easy town reads if they are town. Me/you/ve, possibly grack/austin. This is the list of people I know are able to post coherently enough on day 1 to assume a leadership position and look town. That leaves a fuckton. Now there's a lot of people I haven't played with before here (ggtemplar, boone, killing, robik) and then there's a few resident trolls (dandel, oats, slam). I just can't remember anything about justanothertownie, I'm sure I've played with him but he doesn't stick out. If all the new people post very well (see suki/balla, I was impressed) this won't be a problem. Also slam and oats have actually been useful this game, so that might also solve what I thought might be a problem. So my assumption is that I'm only gonna get very few people who don't troll/lurk on day 1 and post the quality/quantity required for me to make a town read on them early.
I think the only game we played together was Hogwarts. We lynched you day1 (so it is not surprising that you don't remember that much) I took over your vigilante role and shot scum.
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On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.
Well that is just wrong
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On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits. Well that is just wrong
Ok, I admit there is a certain entertainment value but that's not what I was talking about.
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On March 04 2014 21:08 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits. Well that is just wrong Ok, I admit there is a certain entertainment value but that's not what I was talking about.
And I'm saying it can't be that terrible if it has a higher % than normal lynching.
Or are you against day1 lynches in general? IS THAT IT?
DO YOU HATE FREEDOM?
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On March 04 2014 21:11 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 21:08 justanothertownie wrote:On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits. Well that is just wrong Ok, I admit there is a certain entertainment value but that's not what I was talking about. And I'm saying it can't be that terrible if it has a higher % than normal lynching. Or are you against day1 lynches in general? IS THAT IT? DO YOU HATE FREEDOM?
Well, I have trouble believing this statistic. Especially if you take into account how many times scum was lynched day1 recently (without random lynching of course).
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Also it gives you no information at all if you random lynch. People defending the target could be his scumbuddies (if he is scum) or they just don't like random lynching. Deciding the lynch at the start of the day is the stupidest thing possible but I think you are well aware of that.
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On March 04 2014 21:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 21:11 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 04 2014 21:08 justanothertownie wrote:On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits. Well that is just wrong Ok, I admit there is a certain entertainment value but that's not what I was talking about. And I'm saying it can't be that terrible if it has a higher % than normal lynching. Or are you against day1 lynches in general? IS THAT IT? DO YOU HATE FREEDOM? Well, I have trouble believing this statistic. Especially if you take into account how many times scum was lynched day1 recently (without random lynching of course).
Then you should make a counter-database so you can make up your counter-statistics.
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