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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 28 2014 17:51 GMT
#581
On March 01 2014 02:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 14:56 Sylencia wrote:
On February 27 2014 14:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
dont be so pessimistic.
Whos most likely scum?


Not pessimistic, just realistic.

Pretty sure no lynch gives us more info anyways unless the doctor dies n0.

At the moment I've only got sn0 as his n0 contribution was pretty lackluster but that's pretty thin reasoning.

I'd like to point out that Syl is advocating a no-lynch here yet didn't vote no-lynch when the day actually rolled around.

I'd like to point out that information has changed.
No gg, No skill.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 17:52 GMT
#582
On March 01 2014 02:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 14:56 Sylencia wrote:
On February 27 2014 14:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
dont be so pessimistic.
Whos most likely scum?


Not pessimistic, just realistic.

Pretty sure no lynch gives us more info anyways unless the doctor dies n0.

At the moment I've only got sn0 as his n0 contribution was pretty lackluster but that's pretty thin reasoning.

I'd like to point out that Syl is advocating a no-lynch here yet didn't vote no-lynch when the day actually rolled around.


And he obediently followed whatever Oatsmaster said and ignored other players such as his greencheck and Artanis/JJD.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 17:55 GMT
#583
Alright Syl clearly understands why nolynching is good as shown by the following post: (note the excellent timestamp). This is post-claim and counter-claim. No new info after this btw.
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2014 13:37 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 12:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why nolynch guys wtf. What advantage does it give us? No advantage.


+1 cop check, potential save on a cop kill if the doc does their job properly, and that will give us:
- 2 checks hopefully
- 1 cop hopefully
- 1 doctor
which in theory gives us enough confirmed town to at least incriminate someone tomorrow, if not both scummers.

Then, not very long afterwards, without giving any reasoning whatsoever,
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2014 14:04 Sylencia wrote:
:| Don't worry about me, I'm too naive about scum fake checks.

##Vote Xatalos

Yeah okay.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 17:58 GMT
#584
On February 28 2014 14:04 Sylencia wrote:
:| Don't worry about me, I'm too naive about scum fake checks.

##Vote Xatalos


This also includes "playing the noob card" and "not having any conviction in your own ideas whatsoever".
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 18:17 GMT
#585
I need artanis's self restraint.

Currently waiting on Syl to say/do anything (or even just break 1 page of filter). JJD too I guess since there exist situations where I have to evaluate him.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 18:37 GMT
#586
Actually, if Oats is town, then I'm the most likely NK (since then JJD could easily get Oats mislynched without my check). But that seems pretty unlikely.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 18:55 GMT
#587
On February 28 2014 23:42 Sylencia wrote:
Proper readup tomorrow - karaoke has me drained.

However, I noticed one post that stuck out from Xat for me:

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 19:35 Xatalos wrote:
Actually one of the best scenarios would be if I flipped. In that case you and Sylencia would be pretty much confirmed scum.


It's a valiant attempt to gain town cred by trying to martyr, but if you think about it from his perspective it doesn't really show much towniness does it?

If he was the town cop, if he died, we'd gain +1 scum in me, but then town would have 66% chance to lose if the NK is the doc/non-protected guy. Doesn't really sound like a good tradeoff to me.

However, he's been pushing for a no lynch because it's apparently better to have us completely confused over the cop checks even more on day 2 if there are differing results. Basically he offers the self-sacrifice yet pushes no lynch.

That's scum yo.


Lolz. How does Sylencia go from thinking that it's beneficial for town to no-lynch to soon use my stance of no-lynching as proof of me being scum? This is such a radical and complete change in his views that it can't be real.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
February 28 2014 19:11 GMT
#588
Man. Nights as a Vanilla Town sure are boring.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 28 2014 21:13 GMT
#589
This question has come up. There are minimal notifications this game. That means that if a save should happen, neither the doc, nor the target saved, will be notified anything special happened.
Computer says mafia
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 22:01 GMT
#590
Well, if nobody dies, then most likely someone was saved... And the Doc will know who.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 22:03 GMT
#591
Like I said, my favourite wifom is "nobody dies" wifom.

Although Artanis's "I'm VT" wifom was solid too.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 22:09 GMT
#592
Indeed
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 22:09 GMT
#593
What did you think about my "something interesting" WIFOM last night?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 22:10 GMT
#594
Although it's no longer really relevant.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
February 28 2014 22:14 GMT
#595
Your wifom was solid Xata. I hope I'll be able to match it.
Also I won't be around on saturday until late at night. Please don't do something stupid and give scum a chance to insta hammer anyone. No votes until I get back by anyone that isn't claiming cop allowed.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 22:17 GMT
#596
What you mean is

ABSOLUTELY NO VOTES TOMORROW until town has come to consensus since literally ONE vote by a towny on a towny results in a loss if scum are present to hammer.

Period. There's simply no acceptable reason for a town player to vote early.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
February 28 2014 22:18 GMT
#597
No, the cops voting eachother are fine because they are confirmed scum to eachother.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 22:19 GMT
#598
Okay I suppose. I'm not necessarily even that inclined to lynch a cop claim tomorrow but we'll see.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
February 28 2014 22:20 GMT
#599
What I mean is there's absolutely no harm in them voting each other because they're confirmed to be opposite alignments.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 28 2014 22:21 GMT
#600
If I get Oats as a redcheck I might vote for him first, though, since I'd be only 99.9999% certain about Sylencia and 100% certain about Oats.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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