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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 27 2014 22:37 GMT
#341
Day finally got going.
Now to wait for the CC.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 22:39 GMT
#342
Actually.... If there's a fakeclaim (seems more likely) and we both check the same player (Sylencia/Oats), then... What's the use in healing that targeted player? I'll just die and nothing of value will have been gained?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 22:41 GMT
#343
That is indeed why the thread should NOT decide who the cop(s) check.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 27 2014 22:42 GMT
#344
On February 28 2014 07:39 Xatalos wrote:
Actually.... If there's a fakeclaim (seems more likely) and we both check the same player (Sylencia/Oats), then... What's the use in healing that targeted player? I'll just die and nothing of value will have been gained?

Seems risky for scum. They'd have to guess that the doc would keep to that plan and they'd be guaranteed to trade 1 to 1 if they counterclaimed.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 22:46 GMT
#345
I'm 100% certain that it will be either Sylencia or Oats though. If one of them claims Cop, then not him of course...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 22:48 GMT
#346
And I'd prefer Doc to heal me, of course It depends on him though. It's certainly best if he doesn't claim and chooses by himself, since then scum would have a high risk of targeting me, but also a high risk of NOT targeting me.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 27 2014 22:51 GMT
#347
If there's a CC, we decide which is most believable. I think a good idea for the doc is to weight how likely they think player X is getting hit and putting a percentage on it, then RNGing it. Would give the best chance of the hit not going through if the doc is good.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 22:51 GMT
#348
Aight well unsurprisingly I believe Xatalos's claim although I'm also obviously willing to entertain the possibility that he is fake claiming.

Regardless, its 4-2 today and we require literally every townie to vote for a scum lynch. If we no-lynch, then it (likely) progresses to 3-2 which is exactly the same "require every townie" situation, but we get an extra cop check. What's not to love?

So it will be VERY hard to convince me not to vote no-lynch, but there's also no hurry for that IMO.

I'll check the thread infrequently over the next 16 hours again (mostly hoping to see a counterclaim I think), but yeah.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 27 2014 22:52 GMT
#349
On February 28 2014 07:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'll check the thread infrequently over the next 16 hours again (mostly hoping to see a counterclaim I think), but yeah.

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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 22:59 GMT
#350
As a sidenote, I can now clear up a couple of things.

On February 28 2014 04:14 Xatalos wrote:
I also noticed something interesting, but I won't be saying more yet.


On February 28 2014 04:16 Xatalos wrote:
It would pretty much be strictly not beneficial...


This was pure WIFOM meant to confuse scum into thinking that I was VT and noticed a blue tell from someone. Maybe it worked because they probably NK'd BH by bluehunting.

This was also meant for distracting Cop hunters:

On February 27 2014 08:31 Xatalos wrote:
It works both ways. Mafia can narrow down their targets, Cop can narrow down his targets. It's hard to say which one is more important.

Anyways, I suggest not checking me or Artanis. I'm pretty sure we're both town. I'm even fairly sure about myself.


This was a breadcrumb for checking Sn0_Man:

Sn0_Man (!) (notice the very different style of showing his name)

I didn't make any other real breadcrumbs in fear of being noticed. I just tried to play really carefree and appear as VT as can be. It seems like I was successful, although I was a bit worried if my overall slight nervousness and "hiding" my opinions were noticed. Apparently not.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 27 2014 23:01 GMT
#351
I thought it might be so I wanted to put it under the limelight a bit more
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 23:05 GMT
#352
Haha, I thought it might have been like that Maybe it was a bit too obvious though. But it seems like it wasn't detected.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 27 2014 23:06 GMT
#353
So we know I'm not counterclaiming and JJD and Sn0 aren't either. Only people left to come back are Oats and Sylencia.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 23:07 GMT
#354
Still furiously discussing in ScumQT maybe?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 23:07 GMT
#355
Or Sylencia is probably just AFK since he hasn't posted for a long time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 27 2014 23:09 GMT
#356
I'm kinda hoping they'll both come out and claim. Would make things interesting.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 23:09 GMT
#357
Yeaaah.... I'm like 90+% sure that all of us (Sn0_Man/Artanis/JJD) are town. Can it really be this easy?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 23:11 GMT
#358
JJD is the most likely of us to be scum but that's a level below the chances of an Oats+Sylencia scumteam.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
February 27 2014 23:12 GMT
#359
On February 28 2014 08:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm kinda hoping they'll both come out and claim. Would make things interesting.


Why would they both claim....?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
February 27 2014 23:13 GMT
#360
Still need to take a closer look at JJD. I think after the claim you're pretty town to me though. I'd think if you were scum you'd be more likely to claim Sn0 was red as an alternative push.
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