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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 03:36:54
February 27 2014 03:33 GMT
#1121
Votecount

Mocsta (3) - suki, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Toadesstern

geript (1) - Toadesstern, TheChyz

TheChyz (2) - raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks, Cavalinho

Toadesstern (1) - Geript, Geript

JarJarDrinks (0) - Geript

gumshoe (0) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta

WaveofShadow (0) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax

suki (2) - WaveofShadow, Gumshoe, Holyflare

Vivax (1) - WaveofShadow

Not Voting - Ange777, JarJarDrinks, suki



Mocsta is currently set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in .
If any votes are missing or incorrect please let us know!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 27 2014 03:33 GMT
#1122
Nah, those 2 are because I refuse to lynch a newbie D1
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 03:34 GMT
#1123
On February 27 2014 12:33 geript wrote:
Nah, those 2 are because I refuse to lynch a newbie D1


so then you only have 2 "town reads"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 27 2014 03:35 GMT
#1124
I can't do any better. I really have to go now.

I hope u r not town though cos I really expected something different from u. Just like I expect things from thrawn

I personally don't see how what I'm doing is promoting a scum agenda OTHER unintentionally discrediting myself... Which no1 has actually specified.

Further I'm pretty sure I have never responded to Ppl calling me scum in this way. U said before I tell Ppl what they want to hear so they get off me. I haven't done that rayn, which is agitating u further....

Whatevs I really gotta go
TheChyz
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada238 Posts
February 27 2014 03:36 GMT
#1125
On February 27 2014 12:10 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:04 Holyflare wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:59 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:49 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:41 gumshoe wrote:
1: Find me an exact quote where he renounces specifically his initial suspicion of her post.

On February 26 2014 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta why does your read on suki end up in null after a reread and then boombadaboom it's suddenly top 2 town?

I like her attitude after my callout.
I dont think a scum Suki had any need to maintain thread presence after I was getting hammered.

Also, on a reread, I agreed with JJD that Suki was actually relatively light hearted.
I completely misread that her dig on Toad was a retort to Toad calling her out, for example.

There one or two other minor things, but I dont think its important to discuss them right now.



There is a difference between conceding that someone isn't scum because of one post, and believing so firmly in their townieness as a result of that null at best opening, that one is willing to literally orient their play around that person alignment.

I am going to answer this. What the fuck are you doing?


Fuck you man, I dont wanna hear shit from you, your so fucking blind it scares me, how the fuck can you believe that Moc is scum after the game that you just hydrad with him!? The two play styles are totally different. You should be the one defending him honestly, yet your so caught up in your own massive ego that even when you realize how scummy suki is, you still wont give up on Moc, cause that would mean you were wrong wouldnt it? And we cant have that now can we, cause thats never happened before right?


you argued that mocsta was happy at the start of the game which you aligned with him being town, he's put under pressure with 24 hours remaining and all but concedes with a list post and how he is unhappy/now demotivated so why is he so town for it, I don't understand?


If I was angry about rolling scum every game, I would troll to make up the difference in enjoyment and when If I finally did roll town I would be elated and of course to be all but declared scum soon after would crush me. Mocsta's melancholy makes absolute sense in my eyes. There is also a difference between conceding as a depressed townie and rage quiting as scum, he offers us a list he absolutely doesnt have to, scum Moc would just say "fuck this town, everyone so bad" and not offer us more reads to go off. Moc is not in a place to put this much effort into a game as scum, hes not scum, stop calling him scum.

Like I understand coming from GSL that you would think that. I was able to obs the game and my conclusion at the start of this game was the same, but it was only that, at the very start. I don't know how you all play and such so I just commented that Mocsta atm was the only person that gave off a townie vibe. However as the game progresses that same logic can't be applied. Just because he puts more effort is not a valid reason for you to guarantee that mocsta is not scum. Like mentioned by rayn (?) the GSL game was just a drawn out lurker fest which is actually probably the reason why mocsta got so antsy. Stop sticking to this argument this late in the game, its useless.
TheChyz
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada238 Posts
February 27 2014 03:37 GMT
#1126
if your able to see this mocsta (and others) can you write chyz when you say my name? its a short name and cntl+f makes stuff simpler. thanks
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 27 2014 03:41 GMT
#1127
Lol chz

M first comment in the gsl scum qt was that BH promised to roll me town and didn't.

Not that it matters but I did the same thing this game

Anyways I'm not spelling ya name wrong intentionally

Auto correct in a rush.



geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 27 2014 03:42 GMT
#1128
On February 27 2014 12:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:33 geript wrote:
Nah, those 2 are because I refuse to lynch a newbie D1


so then you only have 2 "town reads"

Naw I have like 6 or so town reads. You should recognize that I'm mod confirmed town or I may just vote for you for funsies.
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 03:43 GMT
#1129
Alright, back from my stint at the gym for today.

Holyflare:

large posts that say nothing other than a player is null to scummy with your spare limited time is scum tell enough, returning to the thread saying we have no focus is what i did in hogwarts (but with extra cases), i'm more than happy to start this shit now + joining the adventure game while questioning it (scooby doo scenarios ++++) take it from the heavyweight champ, i know what scum tells are

##unvote
##vote suki


I have absolutely no idea what you're saying here. I want to believe you're town, but I don't understand your thought process when suki clearly hasn't been here for a large period of time.

Furthermore, geript isn't modconfirmed town. What the fuck? Was that really what he got from the mod message from page 56?

At any rate, this game is a bit of a mess. I'm going to ##unvote for the moment, and see if everything starts making any sense. Everyone is literally arguing in a circle.
Spectaticle
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:45 GMT
#1130
On February 27 2014 12:41 Mocsta wrote:
Lol chz

M first comment in the gsl scum qt was that BH promised to roll me town and didn't.

Not that it matters but I did the same thing this game

Anyways I'm not spelling ya name wrong intentionally

Auto correct in a rush.

Did you claim scum or modkill yourself?
table for two on a tv tray
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 03:45 GMT
#1131
On February 27 2014 12:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:22 Mocsta wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:10 suki wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And not only that suki, but instead of providing a direction you only come here to shit on the town for no reason.
What does that achieve?


Just wanna play I miss mafia. Sorry

Now what does you missing mafia (whatever that might mean) have to do with what the rest of the town is doing and you misrepresenting it?

On February 27 2014 10:19 Mocsta wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta can you actually answer the points i have raised against you in more detail?

There was nothing to respond to

U created two situations where I must be scum only

I'm. Not.. So didn't understand your points and responded accordingly already

I want you to answer specifically these things:
    [1.] How did you end up in a conclusion you presented about me-Toad eariler on in the game. Can you show me some examples from earlier games you think supports your argument? Me thinking someone is good/bad has nothing to do with me not being able to form a read on them and honeslty what you said reads only as you trying to shit on me-Toad for no reason, unless you can actually provide some examples that back up your thought process.
    [2.] I don't understand how you read suki's posts three times and end up in a different conclusion every time. Which time you didn't read closely, because i can't believe you read someone closely enough to make a big post on them but not closely enough that after a re-read you form a different opinion on them. After your last re-read, which are the posts from suki that outweigh the earlier scummy posts from her so much that you are confident enough to call her town?

Now Mocsta, i know you know how to make people think about certain way of you when you are mafia. You appeal to emotion a lot because you know what people want to hear. Based on suki's case on you it's totally possible that you changed your read on her just to throw her off you, which apparently worked out if you are mafia and she is town. The fact that you call me town now, it does not work, and i also want ot hear this:
    [3.] Why did you have a scumread on me early on?

1. My personal assessment of your character

2. My attention is very diverted this game cos of real life. Hence what I think about things changes when I reread. Yes I'm guilty of outputting low formed thoughts.

3. Mainly because u approached early game ignoring me. I expected u to spend a lot of time on me given we were just hydraed.

Well this is not detailed enough answer for me.


I'd just like to say I'm sorry Rayn ) : what I said was uncalled for, something about the way you press witnesses bugs me, You pick away alot at inconsistencies, an approach I dont entirely agree with because I feel town is just as capable of producing them as scum, it's also an approach you used to mislynch me. So its personally frustrating to see it, you take castles apart by removing a stone from the base and then preach that the castle deserved to fall because of that single weakness. You may or may not be right, who knows, I'm done for today, going to sleep. Night town.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 27 2014 03:46 GMT
#1132
On February 27 2014 12:36 TheChyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:10 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 12:04 Holyflare wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:59 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:49 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:41 gumshoe wrote:
1: Find me an exact quote where he renounces specifically his initial suspicion of her post.

On February 26 2014 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta why does your read on suki end up in null after a reread and then boombadaboom it's suddenly top 2 town?

I like her attitude after my callout.
I dont think a scum Suki had any need to maintain thread presence after I was getting hammered.

Also, on a reread, I agreed with JJD that Suki was actually relatively light hearted.
I completely misread that her dig on Toad was a retort to Toad calling her out, for example.

There one or two other minor things, but I dont think its important to discuss them right now.



There is a difference between conceding that someone isn't scum because of one post, and believing so firmly in their townieness as a result of that null at best opening, that one is willing to literally orient their play around that person alignment.

I am going to answer this. What the fuck are you doing?


Fuck you man, I dont wanna hear shit from you, your so fucking blind it scares me, how the fuck can you believe that Moc is scum after the game that you just hydrad with him!? The two play styles are totally different. You should be the one defending him honestly, yet your so caught up in your own massive ego that even when you realize how scummy suki is, you still wont give up on Moc, cause that would mean you were wrong wouldnt it? And we cant have that now can we, cause thats never happened before right?


you argued that mocsta was happy at the start of the game which you aligned with him being town, he's put under pressure with 24 hours remaining and all but concedes with a list post and how he is unhappy/now demotivated so why is he so town for it, I don't understand?


If I was angry about rolling scum every game, I would troll to make up the difference in enjoyment and when If I finally did roll town I would be elated and of course to be all but declared scum soon after would crush me. Mocsta's melancholy makes absolute sense in my eyes. There is also a difference between conceding as a depressed townie and rage quiting as scum, he offers us a list he absolutely doesnt have to, scum Moc would just say "fuck this town, everyone so bad" and not offer us more reads to go off. Moc is not in a place to put this much effort into a game as scum, hes not scum, stop calling him scum.

Like I understand coming from GSL that you would think that. I was able to obs the game and my conclusion at the start of this game was the same, but it was only that, at the very start. I don't know how you all play and such so I just commented that Mocsta atm was the only person that gave off a townie vibe. However as the game progresses that same logic can't be applied. Just because he puts more effort is not a valid reason for you to guarantee that mocsta is not scum. Like mentioned by rayn (?) the GSL game was just a drawn out lurker fest which is actually probably the reason why mocsta got so antsy. Stop sticking to this argument this late in the game, its useless.

Nah effort has nothing to do with why I think he's town. It has to do with looking at the game from his perspective and seeing how is reads and thought process evolves. Like him, wave and I were newbies (and experienced newb) together so we have loads of history.
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 03:47 GMT
#1133
Also, can anyone else confirm that Mocsta was actually TheDavison from Smurf Mini Mafia?

His posting looks almost leagues more decisive and cleaner than what's going on this game, but I'm still not familiar with everyone's meta and whatnot.
Spectaticle
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 03:47 GMT
#1134
On February 27 2014 12:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:41 Mocsta wrote:
Lol chz

M first comment in the gsl scum qt was that BH promised to roll me town and didn't.

Not that it matters but I did the same thing this game

Anyways I'm not spelling ya name wrong intentionally

Auto correct in a rush.

Did you claim scum or modkill yourself?


Im pretty sure he meant ask Bh to roll town.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:49 GMT
#1135
In GSL BH actually did promise Mocsta to roll him town and didn't (because what's the point of hydraing if you are scum?!?).
So either Mocsta has requested the same thing again and didnt' get it or he is modconfirming himself as town in which case he should be modkilled.
table for two on a tv tray
TheChyz
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada238 Posts
February 27 2014 03:49 GMT
#1136
ok geript is BS'ing right now. That was to gumshoe (anybody who has paid any attention would know that) and he somehow rolls with it and tries to explain the reasoning for it. Come on guys. he's literally making shit up to defend himself from accusations that he didn't make (in this case b/c he misread). Lynch with fire
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:49 GMT
#1137
Like wtf is this supposed to mean otherwise?
Not that it matters but I did the same thing this game
table for two on a tv tray
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 03:50 GMT
#1138
On February 27 2014 12:47 Cavalinho wrote:
Also, can anyone else confirm that Mocsta was actually TheDavison from Smurf Mini Mafia?

His posting looks almost leagues more decisive and cleaner than what's going on this game, but I'm still not familiar with everyone's meta and whatnot.


He is arguing from a position of weakness this game, hes been pressed all around and expected to respond to 4-6 diffrent cases simultaneously, some of which are probably trumped up by scum.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 03:50 GMT
#1139
On February 27 2014 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like wtf is this supposed to mean otherwise?
Show nested quote +
Not that it matters but I did the same thing this game


Asked bh to roll town, what else?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:51 GMT
#1140
On February 27 2014 12:50 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like wtf is this supposed to mean otherwise?
Not that it matters but I did the same thing this game


Asked bh to roll town, what else?

Yes and he either got it which modconfirms him as town or he didn't which makes him scum.
Anyways the statement is out game information and totally BS.
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