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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 02:27 GMT
#1081
On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
K, don't like mocsta claiming suki looks scummy for an "overly worded [claim]"

Saying everyone else was acting carefree while suki was trying extra hard seems like total BS. In fact I thought the exact opposite. I felt like suki seemed pretty relaxed while guys like WoS and Geript were trying extra hard to look playful.


From here on out, Jar mostly pushes me and Moc and at the foundation of this crusade is his staunch bilief in Suki. He claims her post was lighthearted, perhaps I was wrong in saying it was especially crafted, but thier is undeniably an element of 'try' in her initial post, that if not scummy, certainly shouldnt be considered townie. Yet this bilief in her, as I said, is the basis of most of his play so far.
Ok even Moc changed his tune here and said he agreed w/ me about sukis post being lighthearted.


On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
But actually, I'm starting to come around on you being town because I feel like gumshoe is using you to try and get suki lynched.


Here when confronted about his accusations against Moc, by Moc, he deflects saying I'm the scummy one. He stays this course for a time. Then as attention dies down on me he goes back to Moc.
Selective quoting much? I was confronted about my accusations against moc by moc? Here's the full quote:
On February 26 2014 11:42 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 11:33 Mocsta wrote:
So...

in Back to basics as both town, you found me scummy.
in GSL Mini IV as me scum you town... you found me townie.
in this game you find me scummy.... guess that means im town.

Congratz JJD.
Lol, I thought rayn was the only person I always read backwards.


But actually, I'm starting to come around on you being town because I feel like gumshoe is using you to try and get suki lynched.

Like I think u've been acting kinda scummy mostly because of ur suki read. But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case.
You call that being confronted? Moc made a mostly joke post. Don't try to imply my read on you was me responding to pressure or something like that.


On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Later on he asserts his Suki read without proof.
Show nested quote +
Suki reads very town to me.

I was asked so I answered. Again you're cherry picking parts of my posts.


On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Also, despite Jar Jar buddying her to extreme lengths, Suki has not once mentioned him.
Buddying seems like a strange term to use about 2 people you think are scum

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 27 2014 02:29 GMT
#1082
Having quoted that, Mocsta saying he's a feel player rubs me the wrong way. The world would be a ghost town if every single townie argued that his read is cause feels.

Besides, I think Mocsta uses logical arguments in his town play so I don't really buy it. Like, the smurf game is the picture I have of the most tryhard mocsta I have ever seen. And he uses logic, and doesn't go like "meh, feels but the read doesn't matter this cycle anyway".
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 02:31 GMT
#1083
Vivax calling town atmosphere shit is not subjective.

At that time there were three real cases. Case on Mocsta, case on you and a case on TheChyz. Nobody was really pushing anything else. This is not "all over the place" by any means. Also there are no people telling each other to go fuck themselves or refuse to engage into discussion with someone else or generally raging by any reason - which is another instance of shit atmosphere.

So, suki's interpretation of shit atmosphere is totally incorrect and she could not even explain it later on.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 02:31 GMT
#1084
On February 27 2014 11:25 Vivax wrote:
Nevermind, it was more at the bottom than I figured it would be.

Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 00:35 Mocsta wrote:
On February 27 2014 00:25 suki wrote:
Although since you're here, mind going over why you think rayn is scum? And explaining your flip flop on gumshoe.

Suki,
Im a feel player. Every town game, ppl call me scum for not being consistent and not understanding that my ranking system isnt equivalent to everyone elses.

Regarding Rayn: Again, its a feel read, and not a priority for me this cycle - hence why i havnt gone into detail. Note, Rayn didnt query this either.

Regarding Gumshoe: I can't remember. His posts on the read through seemed OK with me and not as "dramatic" as others were pointing out. e.g. stuff like the martyring felt contextually fine to discuss.


Ok., this made you go town then, guess I'll roll with the explanation.

HF you are ready to scumread suki for saying that the atmosphere is shit? Frankly I see that as something subjective and cause you said it as scum doesn't mean that town can't feel that way. At least that's what I think is the core of your argument.


What mindset comes to the thread and posts a scum case (on mocsta) and then another case because mocsta talked about thechyz that ended up calling thechyz just "weak and scummy maybe but i'll look into it" it was a giant wall of text that eventually said nothing based on a very small amount of posts that has 0 followup. Rayn just pointed out how suki played as town in a previous game and she returns to the thread and says things are going wrong? No. that's not what a towny does, the more people that are in the spotlight the better because people react differently under pressure, in no way shape or form is this a bad town atmosphere, it's very good right now and we're pretty on track to a pool of players IMO.

+ scooooobbbyyyy dooooo

just trust me, i'm the heavyweight champion
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 27 2014 02:40 GMT
#1085
So I can vote for the following peeps:
HF
Gummybear
JJD
[red]Toadscum[/b]
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 02:41 GMT
#1086
On February 27 2014 11:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
K, don't like mocsta claiming suki looks scummy for an "overly worded [claim]"

Saying everyone else was acting carefree while suki was trying extra hard seems like total BS. In fact I thought the exact opposite. I felt like suki seemed pretty relaxed while guys like WoS and Geript were trying extra hard to look playful.


From here on out, Jar mostly pushes me and Moc and at the foundation of this crusade is his staunch bilief in Suki. He claims her post was lighthearted, perhaps I was wrong in saying it was especially crafted, but thier is undeniably an element of 'try' in her initial post, that if not scummy, certainly shouldnt be considered townie. Yet this bilief in her, as I said, is the basis of most of his play so far.
Ok even Moc changed his tune here and said he agreed w/ me about sukis post being lighthearted.


Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
But actually, I'm starting to come around on you being town because I feel like gumshoe is using you to try and get suki lynched.


Here when confronted about his accusations against Moc, by Moc, he deflects saying I'm the scummy one. He stays this course for a time. Then as attention dies down on me he goes back to Moc.
Selective quoting much? I was confronted about my accusations against moc by moc? Here's the full quote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 11:42 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 26 2014 11:33 Mocsta wrote:
So...

in Back to basics as both town, you found me scummy.
in GSL Mini IV as me scum you town... you found me townie.
in this game you find me scummy.... guess that means im town.

Congratz JJD.
Lol, I thought rayn was the only person I always read backwards.


But actually, I'm starting to come around on you being town because I feel like gumshoe is using you to try and get suki lynched.

Like I think u've been acting kinda scummy mostly because of ur suki read. But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case.
You call that being confronted? Moc made a mostly joke post. Don't try to imply my read on you was me responding to pressure or something like that.


Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Later on he asserts his Suki read without proof.
Suki reads very town to me.

I was asked so I answered. Again you're cherry picking parts of my posts.


Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Also, despite Jar Jar buddying her to extreme lengths, Suki has not once mentioned him.
Buddying seems like a strange term to use about 2 people you think are scum



I am responding to the bolded.

1: Find me an exact quote where he renounces specifically his initial suspicion of her post.

2: The post was not a joke,it was a mock, he was pissed at you, a sign of his rising aggression, so you dodged onto me.

3: The accusation is you have no real reasoning for your read on Suki, it doesn't matter if you were asked about it, you opted not to back up your claim.

4: It's possible your scum buddying her and shes town, or she could just as easily be scum and your backing her up, while shes able to avoid commenting on you, thereby not quite buddying back. Doesnt change how flawed your faith in her is.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 27 2014 02:41 GMT
#1087
On February 27 2014 11:40 geript wrote:
So I can vote for the following peeps:
HF
Gummybear
JJD
[red]Toadscum
[/b]
So....completely devoid of any care as to what the thread is doing right now.
Useful.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 02:42 GMT
#1088
On February 27 2014 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:40 geript wrote:
So I can vote for the following peeps:
HF
Gummybear
JJD
[red]Toadscum

So....completely devoid of any care as to what the thread is doing right now.
Useful.
[/b]

#Geript.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 02:44 GMT
#1089
On February 27 2014 11:41 gumshoe wrote:
1: Find me an exact quote where he renounces specifically his initial suspicion of her post.

On February 26 2014 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta why does your read on suki end up in null after a reread and then boombadaboom it's suddenly top 2 town?

I like her attitude after my callout.
I dont think a scum Suki had any need to maintain thread presence after I was getting hammered.

Also, on a reread, I agreed with JJD that Suki was actually relatively light hearted.
I completely misread that her dig on Toad was a retort to Toad calling her out, for example.

There one or two other minor things, but I dont think its important to discuss them right now.

gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 02:49 GMT
#1090
On February 27 2014 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:41 gumshoe wrote:
1: Find me an exact quote where he renounces specifically his initial suspicion of her post.

Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta why does your read on suki end up in null after a reread and then boombadaboom it's suddenly top 2 town?

I like her attitude after my callout.
I dont think a scum Suki had any need to maintain thread presence after I was getting hammered.

Also, on a reread, I agreed with JJD that Suki was actually relatively light hearted.
I completely misread that her dig on Toad was a retort to Toad calling her out, for example.

There one or two other minor things, but I dont think its important to discuss them right now.



There is a difference between conceding that someone isn't scum because of one post, and believing so firmly in their townieness as a result of that null at best opening, that one is willing to literally orient their play around that person alignment.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 02:55 GMT
#1091
On February 27 2014 11:49 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:41 gumshoe wrote:
1: Find me an exact quote where he renounces specifically his initial suspicion of her post.

On February 26 2014 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta why does your read on suki end up in null after a reread and then boombadaboom it's suddenly top 2 town?

I like her attitude after my callout.
I dont think a scum Suki had any need to maintain thread presence after I was getting hammered.

Also, on a reread, I agreed with JJD that Suki was actually relatively light hearted.
I completely misread that her dig on Toad was a retort to Toad calling her out, for example.

There one or two other minor things, but I dont think its important to discuss them right now.



There is a difference between conceding that someone isn't scum because of one post, and believing so firmly in their townieness as a result of that null at best opening, that one is willing to literally orient their play around that person alignment.

I am going to answer this. What the fuck are you doing?
table for two on a tv tray
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 27 2014 02:57 GMT
#1092
On February 27 2014 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:40 geript wrote:
So I can vote for the following peeps:
HF
Gummybear
JJD
[red]Toadscum

So....completely devoid of any care as to what the thread is doing right now.
Useful.
[/b]
No, Mocs town. Vivax town. Suki new. Calvininho is new. So there's 4 people to vote for and 1 is 100% scum.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 02:59 GMT
#1093
On February 27 2014 11:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:49 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:41 gumshoe wrote:
1: Find me an exact quote where he renounces specifically his initial suspicion of her post.

On February 26 2014 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta why does your read on suki end up in null after a reread and then boombadaboom it's suddenly top 2 town?

I like her attitude after my callout.
I dont think a scum Suki had any need to maintain thread presence after I was getting hammered.

Also, on a reread, I agreed with JJD that Suki was actually relatively light hearted.
I completely misread that her dig on Toad was a retort to Toad calling her out, for example.

There one or two other minor things, but I dont think its important to discuss them right now.



There is a difference between conceding that someone isn't scum because of one post, and believing so firmly in their townieness as a result of that null at best opening, that one is willing to literally orient their play around that person alignment.

I am going to answer this. What the fuck are you doing?


Fuck you man, I dont wanna hear shit from you, your so fucking blind it scares me, how the fuck can you believe that Moc is scum after the game that you just hydrad with him!? The two play styles are totally different. You should be the one defending him honestly, yet your so caught up in your own massive ego that even when you realize how scummy suki is, you still wont give up on Moc, cause that would mean you were wrong wouldnt it? And we cant have that now can we, cause thats never happened before right?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 03:03 GMT
#1094
Jar Jar thinks suki is town cause her opening was "light hearted" I think Mocsta is town because I literally play a scum game with him, where he was so sick of bieng scum he recklessly lashed out at everyone and SCUM CLAIMED UNDER NO PRESSURE. The two are night and day and I've done tons more this game than just defend Moc. Whereas Jar Jar's case on me and moc came from Suki and his attack on Chyz lined up with sukis. Suki is his moon, and he her sun, and together they are scum.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 03:04 GMT
#1095
On February 27 2014 11:59 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:49 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:41 gumshoe wrote:
1: Find me an exact quote where he renounces specifically his initial suspicion of her post.

On February 26 2014 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta why does your read on suki end up in null after a reread and then boombadaboom it's suddenly top 2 town?

I like her attitude after my callout.
I dont think a scum Suki had any need to maintain thread presence after I was getting hammered.

Also, on a reread, I agreed with JJD that Suki was actually relatively light hearted.
I completely misread that her dig on Toad was a retort to Toad calling her out, for example.

There one or two other minor things, but I dont think its important to discuss them right now.



There is a difference between conceding that someone isn't scum because of one post, and believing so firmly in their townieness as a result of that null at best opening, that one is willing to literally orient their play around that person alignment.

I am going to answer this. What the fuck are you doing?


Fuck you man, I dont wanna hear shit from you, your so fucking blind it scares me, how the fuck can you believe that Moc is scum after the game that you just hydrad with him!? The two play styles are totally different. You should be the one defending him honestly, yet your so caught up in your own massive ego that even when you realize how scummy suki is, you still wont give up on Moc, cause that would mean you were wrong wouldnt it? And we cant have that now can we, cause thats never happened before right?


you argued that mocsta was happy at the start of the game which you aligned with him being town, he's put under pressure with 24 hours remaining and all but concedes with a list post and how he is unhappy/now demotivated so why is he so town for it, I don't understand?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:04 GMT
#1096
Take a break gumshoe.
table for two on a tv tray
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 27 2014 03:05 GMT
#1097
On February 27 2014 11:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:49 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:41 gumshoe wrote:
1: Find me an exact quote where he renounces specifically his initial suspicion of her post.

On February 26 2014 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta why does your read on suki end up in null after a reread and then boombadaboom it's suddenly top 2 town?

I like her attitude after my callout.
I dont think a scum Suki had any need to maintain thread presence after I was getting hammered.

Also, on a reread, I agreed with JJD that Suki was actually relatively light hearted.
I completely misread that her dig on Toad was a retort to Toad calling her out, for example.

There one or two other minor things, but I dont think its important to discuss them right now.



There is a difference between conceding that someone isn't scum because of one post, and believing so firmly in their townieness as a result of that null at best opening, that one is willing to literally orient their play around that person alignment.

I am going to answer this. What the fuck are you doing?

Weren't you the one that said town gumshoe is all pants on head?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 03:06 GMT
#1098
On February 27 2014 12:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Take a break gumshoe.


Take a shit, cause your full of it.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:07 GMT
#1099
On February 27 2014 12:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:49 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:41 gumshoe wrote:
1: Find me an exact quote where he renounces specifically his initial suspicion of her post.

On February 26 2014 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta why does your read on suki end up in null after a reread and then boombadaboom it's suddenly top 2 town?

I like her attitude after my callout.
I dont think a scum Suki had any need to maintain thread presence after I was getting hammered.

Also, on a reread, I agreed with JJD that Suki was actually relatively light hearted.
I completely misread that her dig on Toad was a retort to Toad calling her out, for example.

There one or two other minor things, but I dont think its important to discuss them right now.



There is a difference between conceding that someone isn't scum because of one post, and believing so firmly in their townieness as a result of that null at best opening, that one is willing to literally orient their play around that person alignment.

I am going to answer this. What the fuck are you doing?

Weren't you the one that said town gumshoe is all pants on head?

I don't get this:
gumshoe makes an argument. JJD answers the argument. gumshoe asks him to elaborate more on his answer. JJD proves his statement. gumshoe says "no that was not my argument, in fact it was this (something else)".
That makes absolutely no sense.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 27 2014 03:07 GMT
#1100
On February 27 2014 12:06 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Take a break gumshoe.


Take a shit, cause your full of it.

Alright, Gumshoe probably town.
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