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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 27 2014 10:36 Holyflare wrote: you want me to actually quote everything just because you're too lazy to read my filter?? I read it, but I don't see anything in there in specific relating to what I wrote. You're calling him scum for his voting patterns while I am calling him scum for not reading the thread/trying and bad justifications. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 27 2014 10:40 WaveofShadow wrote: I read it, but I don't see anything in there in specific relating to what I wrote. You're calling him scum for his voting patterns while I am calling him scum for not reading the thread/trying and bad justifications. I mean...in the end it's nitpicky and I suppose it doesn't really matter but I argue that my analysis shows his thought processes in following the thread sentiment. Mebbe I'm just jelly of your belt. | ||
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Vivax
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I'm going into conspiracy mode now, but mocsta went to an unexplained townread, she went to an inconsistently explained townread. Should we assume that... | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 27 2014 10:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes it's quite bad. I don't close out the possibility of them both being mafia. And I don't close out the possibility that if they're both mafia Vivax went into hardcore bus mode trolololol On February 26 2014 17:39 Mocsta wrote: LOL. So Im town if my reads dont evolve as the game progresses and scum if my reads  O* evolve as the game progressesGood luck getting me lynched with that argument. Do you have a problem I listed Suki as town because of my history with Suki; or becuase you disagree? In re-reading Rayn's original pressure of Mocsta I find this. Suki literally called you town for your reads not evolving. From this post you believe (as I do) it's the other way around, and yet suki has now done this opposite thing from what we expect...is she still town? Something truly funky is happening here. I actually think suki>Mocsta for scum here. This may just be feels though. | ||
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
On February 27 2014 10:27 Vivax wrote: Suki, earlier you said that that point exactly was scummy. Hmmm.. Yeah but ifi remember right there were two timesi asked mocsta to elaborate.the first time I asked him and he ignored or didn't see it. Abs that'swhat thatquote is referringto. then I posted my big case on him and called him out for not taking about rayn and he said straight up he wasn't going to. Different situations. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Rayn's original points are mostly good. Want to see Mocsta's answer to his stuff from last page | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
K, don't like mocsta claiming suki looks scummy for an "overly worded [claim]" Saying everyone else was acting carefree while suki was trying extra hard seems like total BS. In fact I thought the exact opposite. I felt like suki seemed pretty relaxed while guys like WoS and Geript were trying extra hard to look playful. From here on out, Jar mostly pushes me and Moc and at the foundation of this crusade is his staunch bilief in Suki. He claims her post was lighthearted, perhaps I was wrong in saying it was especially crafted, but thier is undeniably an element of 'try' in her initial post, that if not scummy, certainly shouldnt be considered townie. Yet this bilief in her, as I said, is the basis of most of his play so far. But actually, I'm starting to come around on you being town because I feel like gumshoe is using you to try and get suki lynched. Here when confronted about his accusations against Moc, by Moc, he deflects saying I'm the scummy one. He stays this course for a time. Then as attention dies down on me he goes back to Moc. Yeah that was basically it. I didn't like a gumshoe/mocsta scum team. But I think I'm back to not liking moc again. Gumshoe does seem to be scumhunting and I haven't been really crazy about some of Mocstas more recent posts. In Particular: Later on he asserts his Suki read without proof. Suki reads very town to me. Then when neither of us look like were getting lynched, he goes onto Chyz(flavour of the hour and who coincidentally enough was Suki's target as well) and when Chyz looks like hes not getting lynched he backs off him to. and finally back onto me. OK. This really seems like a scumslip and then Phony confidence to cover it up. Also, despite Jar Jar buddying her to extreme lengths, Suki has not once mentioned him. I know Jar Jar to be a tunneller as town, he sticks to his reads, but this game hes bounced everywhere and several influential players have given him a pass on it. He starts fires where ever he can and hopes they catch. When they dont, he moves on until something sticks, but hes always willing to backtrack. In bluez light mafia, he bounced back between Oats , TOFU, TAA gemorpit, Vivax, jkirby, Corazon, tangeng, in efforts to get any one of them lynched, and I'm seeing the makings of that same capriciousness in this game. I also completley agree about the people who feel that the thread atmosphere is bad. This is scummy for two reasons, 1: Saying so is useless and does nothing to help town (its also a good excuse for future lurking/flip flopping). 2: Scum, are the only ones who would have that impression (this game is pretty great so far) because they would be able to know if town is onto any of them or not, if none of town are, then the atmosphere will appear to them to be in thier favour therefore bad. Thats the kind of scum slip I can get behind and it's one both suki and Vivax have made. So yeah, my scum team is primarily Suki and Jar, with Vivax in the wings(much sheep on the case against him). For now I'll switch my vote onto Jar, because the dudes based his accusations against me on my undying love for Moc, while his loyalty to Suki, which has defined his play for more than mine to Moc, is more so questionable and pretty much unexplained. ##Vote: Jar Jar | ||
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suki
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On February 27 2014 11:02 WaveofShadow wrote: I think Mocsta's feel-mojo is getting in the way of my feels. Rayn's original points are mostly good. Want to see Mocsta's answer to his stuff from last page large posts that say nothing other than a player is null to scummy with your spare limited time is scum tell enough, returning to the thread saying we have no focus is what i did in hogwarts (but with extra cases), i'm more than happy to start this shit now + joining the adventure game while questioning it (scooby doo scenarios ++++) take it from the heavyweight champ, i know what scum tells are  ##unvote ##vote suki | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
You're like the second guy on the mocsta wagon if I recall correctly. You call gumshoe's reason for giving him a townread weird, and you are untouched by his confidence that mocsta is town. Yet I don't see you poking gumshoe about that. What gives? because gumshoe's certainty/uncertainty means nothing on an unflipped player | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On February 27 2014 11:07 suki wrote: Sorry wave what exactly are you calling me scummy for? Also I did not say that mocsta was scum for his reads not evolving andi don't know how you got that from my case on him. Suki, what do you think of Jar Jar? Why did you feel that the Chyz's poor play was scummy, even though it was similar to his newbie town play youd encountered in newbie LI? A game in which you exploited his shoddy play in order to get him mislynched. | ||
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Vivax
22426 Posts
On February 27 2014 11:02 suki wrote: Hmmm.. Yeah but ifi remember right there were two timesi asked mocsta to elaborate.the first time I asked him and he ignored or didn't see it. Abs that'swhat thatquote is referringto. then I posted my big case on him and called him out for not taking about rayn and he said straight up he wasn't going to. Different situations. Can you find me the post where he said he wouldn't? Cause I can't find it. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
@jjd, tram brought this up but either way, why would you call something a "scum slip" but then not instantly vote that person? if it's a scum slip then he is scum and you should be voting him. Also, what is the difference between the 2 things quoted below (you saying suki reads very town with no reasoning) and what tram said (mocsta is town)? Later on he asserts his Suki read without proof. Then when neither of us look like were getting lynched, he goes onto Chyz(flavour of the hour and who coincidentally enough was Suki's target as well) and when Chyz looks like hes not getting lynched he backs off him to. and finally back onto me. The post in question is: | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Vivax
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On February 27 2014 00:35 Mocsta wrote: Suki, Im a feel player. Every town game, ppl call me scum for not being consistent and not understanding that my ranking system isnt equivalent to everyone elses. Regarding Rayn: Again, its a feel read, and not a priority for me this cycle - hence why i havnt gone into detail. Note, Rayn didnt query this either. Regarding Gumshoe: I can't remember. His posts on the read through seemed OK with me and not as "dramatic" as others were pointing out. e.g. stuff like the martyring felt contextually fine to discuss. Ok., this made you go town then, guess I'll roll with the explanation. HF you are ready to scumread suki for saying that the atmosphere is shit? Frankly I see that as something subjective and cause you said it as scum doesn't mean that town can't feel that way. At least that's what I think is the core of your argument. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Please guys, give your opinions and participate more. | ||
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