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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 18 2014 11:08 GMT
#18
/in
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 19 2014 11:51 GMT
#56
this playerlist is a kinda beautiful blend of old and new actually. i like it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 19 2014 12:28 GMT
#60
On February 19 2014 21:26 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 20:51 marvellosity wrote:
this playerlist is a kinda beautiful blend of old and new actually. i like it.


I don't see any old on it!

YOU PALMAR. YOU'RE FUCKING OLD
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 19 2014 13:44 GMT
#70
no, it's the normal way.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 19 2014 13:47 GMT
#72
well that's not the normal way, sounds like a host error.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 19 2014 13:53 GMT
#75
That would be it, Artanis uses :59 as his last voting minute. 00 doesn't count.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 19 2014 14:01 GMT
#77
yeah Koshi. Jeez.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 19 2014 17:22 GMT
#98
On February 20 2014 01:47 Koshi wrote:
On the record. I like all the people in this game. except prplhz because I don't know who that is and he hasn't got a cool name.

How is prplhz not a cool name. Cmon Koshi.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 19 2014 18:04 GMT
#106
these new guys so uneducated
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 00:54 GMT
#237
Hello everyone. Do I need to read before I go to bed? A quick skim of this page and everything looks super serious already.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 00:56 GMT
#241
oh god, the pressure is on. I'll read then.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 01:12 GMT
#252
Smurf, you're fucking annoying already. That's what I've taken out of this thread so far.

rayn I don't have some special insight into you, dear. If I had to guess I'd just guess that you wanted it so that if someone had a vote on someone else, it meant something. I have no idea why having a method to unvote is supposed to be in any way scummy though (hi prplhz, suki, maybe other people I forgot in the last 3 minutes).

I mean if anyone really thinks this is some convoluted method for rayn not to have to take stands (this is what prplhz said in his vote post), then you're basically totally insane and you should hit yourself on the head.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 01:15 GMT
#257
btw best guess for rayn and his plan is on the townside simply because it's so pointless to bring it up as mafia and it has generated reasonably useful conversation which as a really obvious consequence.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 01:15 GMT
#258
as = was
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 01:17 GMT
#260
<3 sorry bubba, you're all ra-ra! and I'm all like "ugh whatever" and you're like "but this and whatever this is!" and I'm all like "yeah i'm sure that's cool"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 01:18 GMT
#261
The point of that being that Palmar will talk about things like you've been constantly attacking him for talking about things. And it doesn't mean very much. That's just how he talks about stuff.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 01:20 GMT
#263
Let's go with this:

##unvote
##Vote: Toadesstern


His +1 on prplhz's vote is super-weak. Why is Toad agreeing with prplhz that rayn is looking for a way not to take stands? Toad is passingly familiar enough with rayn to know that's not how rayn operates.

Naughty toad.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 01:21 GMT
#265
you have a very stylistic way of talking about things, dear.

give me any game where you make any sort of decent effort without your name attached to your posts and i'd figure out it was you pretty quickly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 01:23 GMT
#266
I'm quite keen on this Toad thing btw.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 01:30 GMT
#269
rayn it wasn't interesting enough for me to even want to think about even typing half that much of a post. sorry bro.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 01:32 GMT
#270
On February 20 2014 10:30 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 10:20 marvellosity wrote:
Let's go with this:

##unvote
##Vote: Toadesstern


His +1 on prplhz's vote is super-weak. Why is Toad agreeing with prplhz that rayn is looking for a way not to take stands? Toad is passingly familiar enough with rayn to know that's not how rayn operates.

Naughty toad.


I voted him because I like voting rayn after the last game we had together, just look at the post I quoted while voting him. I think that was the first game we had together so no I don't really know how he plays considering that I ragequited because of him on d2. At least I don't recall any other game.

Do you honestly think I'm going after him in all seriousness right now instead of just taking sidestabs at him for last game?
After posts like these:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
I agree with what prplhz is saying, and to the extend that I don't understand why people care where votes are parked. It's completely irrelevant, there is no pressure in a vote that isn't being actively pushed as a lynch target. No one cares. I have no idea why rayn seems to think we need a plan to address that non-problem. It's an extremely bad opening discussion point and serves no purpose.

Do you agree with prplhz's vote on me?

Actually this goes to everyone.

If you read my posts, you'll find that I actually said the exact same thing and that I as well have my vote on you. So yes.

So why is your vote not on me?


On February 20 2014 08:57 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The quoted below is in addition to votes cast on D1 correct?
On day 1 each player will be randomly assigned a vote on someone else. No one will have more than 3 votes on them to begin with.



##vote: raynpelikoneet
I have a plan and i am not sure if this is the best plan because i have not thought it through from every angle yet but does anyone know what i am doing?

sounds good to me, I like this

##vote: raynpelikoneet


I didn't feel the need to vote myself and revote you for a more dramatic expression of my desire to get you lynched.

?

I had the same idea as prplhz had and said I can't think of a reason why a town would want to proppose this and I'd still like to see his reasoning for all this.

you can't say

1) "I'm not going after him seriously"
and
2) "but I need to hear from him about this"

1) is backing out of it and yet you're pushing it with 2)

my vote stands while I go to bed
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 10:18 GMT
#386
On February 20 2014 12:06 VIVAX420 wrote:
well when suki is scum, she constantly bitches about how stressful it is to be scum. Her early game back and forth with koshi makes her look very town to me.
~~
why vote prpl? just because of the contradiction in that post you quoted? it wasn't so much a contradiction as it was a realization that marv had a good point.

Catching up, this is basically right.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 10:20 GMT
#387
noooooooooooooo why did we have to get Oats. fuck.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 10:28 GMT
#388
Alright.

sidesprang, Koshi is right, you need to play the game, and whatever hilarious little games and plans you're coming up with just dropping a vote and leaving - I'll tell you for free, they're neither hilarious, nor clever. Play the game or die. I will quite happily simply lynch you and not think about it.

prplhz looks quite fine. Stuck up for himself. Contradiction not a contradiction. rayn looks fine. suki (it's a lady Palmar) I think looks ok, for the sheer disbelief that rayn has a scumread on her.

Toad still looks like poopypants.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 10:30 GMT
#389
Balla, why are you interested in Smurf at the moment?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 11:06 GMT
#392
Seriously wish you'd let Balla answer first T.T

Agree with you about Koshi - Koshi my love, you can't just hang off me/rayn's coat-tails. You should know by now I only protect you when I have good reasons to think you're town... :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 11:07 GMT
#395
yeah I think rayn is town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 11:10 GMT
#398
One thing about rayn that has actually been quite consistent in his scumgames is this:

He is very good at posting a lot. Very good. Lynched him with 25 page filter on day 3 in ##. And yet he practically always is slow out the blocks. Ref: World Championship heavyweight mini - very slow out the blocks, and I was suspicious of him for it. LXIII - slow out the blocks. Vengeful (v recent) - I attacked his opening posts because they were useless and wishy washy.

Here he's racing out the blocks. Almost doesn't matter how, although I've not seen anything particularly bad.
Nothing overly conclusive but definitely puts him on the townside.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 11:11 GMT
#400
On February 20 2014 20:08 Palmar wrote:
on a scale of 1 - starsenses, how certain are you?

If we go 1-10 (10=town) and everyone defaults at 5.5 at the start, maybe 7.5 at the moment.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 11:13 GMT
#401
Koshi, it just looks like suki is indulging in a bit of gameplaying purely because you were indulging in a bit of gameplaying.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 11:16 GMT
#405
how about you lynch Toad with me then.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 11:21 GMT
#410
I'm not that interested in convincing you right now, Palmar, simply because it's so early and I can easily be wrong at this stage (especially suki I think - the continued attack on rayn's reasoning I found terrible, but then I found suki's incredulation at being rayn's scumread pretty genuine) and we have a tonne of time.

Agree with you on kush+Smurf as it stands.

This game has been much easier to get involved in and I feel kinda inclined to wait and see what a couple of my unknowns are going to do through the day
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 11:23 GMT
#414
On February 20 2014 20:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 20:21 Palmar wrote:
Why have you been considering that Koshi? Why do you think Toad is scum?

Because marv looked town to me.
I don't know. That's why it is called sheeping.

Given I've advanced reasoning for Toad to be mafia, do you not have an opinion on the reasoning I gave?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 11:23 GMT
#416
On February 20 2014 20:22 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 20:21 marvellosity wrote:
I'm not that interested in convincing you right now, Palmar, simply because it's so early and I can easily be wrong at this stage (especially suki I think - the continued attack on rayn's reasoning I found terrible, but then I found suki's incredulation at being rayn's scumread pretty genuine) and we have a tonne of time.

Agree with you on kush+Smurf as it stands.

This game has been much easier to get involved in and I feel kinda inclined to wait and see what a couple of my unknowns are going to do through the day


Out of curiosity, have you realized I'm town yet?

I'd say my read on you is progressing at a similar rate to last game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 11:29 GMT
#426
Fight!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 11:37 GMT
#432
This whole conversation is unbelievably adorable
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 11:41 GMT
#434
Both of you. It's just that kind of conversation.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 12:14 GMT
#437
hmm maybe I was wrong to lean town on suki. We'll see.

I played in a proactive prplhz game once, it was a smurf game though. Palmar hosted it in fact.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 12:27 GMT
#442
I know that and I've even talked about that with my stuff on Toad. At least prplhz was being proactive with his gash. Toad was +1ing prplhz's gash while not really +1ing it because it wasn't serious except it was serious. I don't think how prplhz talked about it all seemed forced.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 12:27 GMT
#443
probably "seemed forced at all" at the end there instead of what I wrote
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 12:31 GMT
#445
Dunno. Seems like it should be true. Toad's been around lately and you've been around.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 12:32 GMT
#446
At the very least you were both in LXIV (I) for a little while
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 12:33 GMT
#448
prplhz is just blatantly townier than toad really
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 12:38 GMT
#451
So you've been in two games with Toad then?

"passingly familiar" hardly is false then is it? :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 12:43 GMT
#453
nuh uh, I used a negative. Knowing how someone doesn't operate isn't the same as knowing how they operate

<3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 12:46 GMT
#456
those things are totally unrelated to what he did this game... ?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 13:02 GMT
#467
lol. Weren't you talking about policy lynching and shit last game Palmar?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 13:22 GMT
#475
I literally can't be bothered to think about Koshi. If it's a few hours before deadline and I'm not happy then I'll start to worry.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 13:27 GMT
#482
On February 20 2014 22:25 Palmar wrote:
The one guy I need to read to post more is this balla

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 13:37 GMT
#490
Since when would you not simply follow Palmar prp?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 13:39 GMT
#492
On February 20 2014 22:29 Toadesstern wrote:
You also know that I'm not the kind of guy who goes back to read old games. You also know that I'm the kind of guy who confuses people with each other a lot and that a lot of stuff that happened in past games mixes in my mind, hell I can't even remember a single game name once it's over. We've been in skype and you do know that. So why did you think I'm particular familiar with rayn's play, probably to the point that I could pinpoint something about it? You usually don't consider me that skilled of a player.

I never said you pinpointed rayn's play or anything, that's not what I said. I was actually quite vague.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 13:41 GMT
#495
On February 20 2014 22:40 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 22:37 marvellosity wrote:
Since when would you not simply follow Palmar prp?

huh

Normally you love just to sheep what Palmar says/decides (in this case "lynch toad") whereas here you're against what he's proposing. It's unusual for you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 13:53 GMT
#505
On February 20 2014 22:44 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 22:41 marvellosity wrote:
On February 20 2014 22:40 prplhz wrote:
On February 20 2014 22:37 marvellosity wrote:
Since when would you not simply follow Palmar prp?

huh

Normally you love just to sheep what Palmar says/decides (in this case "lynch toad") whereas here you're against what he's proposing. It's unusual for you.

i don't mind sheeping at all, but i also don't mind not sheeping. i've shept (?) palmar plenty of times but i have also disagreed with him. not entirely sure where you're getting this from but you're wrong. why do you want everybody on board the train to lynch-a-toad-ville and why don't you want to "bother" reading into koshi? it's like 12 hours into the day and you just want to lynch toad and can't be arsed to read a filter in the next 36 hours?

I just wanted to see what you'd say really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 13:54 GMT
#506
I also said why it wasn't worth me thinking about Koshi right now. He'll do his thang and I'll see how I feel about him later. It's always the same with Koshi, at some point he either starts shitting townie rainbows or he doesn't.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 13:55 GMT
#507
On February 20 2014 22:45 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 22:39 marvellosity wrote:
On February 20 2014 22:29 Toadesstern wrote:
You also know that I'm not the kind of guy who goes back to read old games. You also know that I'm the kind of guy who confuses people with each other a lot and that a lot of stuff that happened in past games mixes in my mind, hell I can't even remember a single game name once it's over. We've been in skype and you do know that. So why did you think I'm particular familiar with rayn's play, probably to the point that I could pinpoint something about it? You usually don't consider me that skilled of a player.

I never said you pinpointed rayn's play or anything, that's not what I said. I was actually quite vague.

you used it to paint me as scum basicly saying I should know better. I don't care how vague you are about that to be honest if you're doing it. You're usually not someone who likes to be vague when talking about meta or someone's reasoning for being town/mafia.

How come you just blurted that out without looking it up or taking into consideration that the 2 games I had with him recently both ended on d1 on for me, one being a PM game, one being a ragequit on d1 from me where I certainly didn't go "woahwoahwoah, let's coold down a little and read his filter nice and slowly"

I said you should know better than to think rayn would want to get out of taking a stand.

Which you should. That's simply true. If there's anything that's immediately obvious about rayn's play is that he is never afraid to take stands, and you don't need an amazing memory to think about that, especially if you've been in a couple of games quite recently with him.

Jog on, Toad.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 20 2014 14:00 GMT
#510
I can barely think of 2 players more likely to create a confusing argument than Toad and rayn.

Although I love you both dearly.
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February 20 2014 14:05 GMT
#512
Toad, stop being a moron. You've been in two games with him in the last month, that's what I consider. Your pathetic excuses about not remembering or rereading everything or having a hissyfit in SMB I don't care about.
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February 20 2014 14:06 GMT
#513
"I don't consider that I've been in multiple games with rayn recently even though I have"

it's brilliant really.
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February 20 2014 14:09 GMT
#516
On February 20 2014 23:08 Palmar wrote:
I really like prplhz's point about koshi, don't you marv? doesn't it make you all warm inside?

no, it's exactly the kind of thing Koshi would do as town more than mafia, he'd be more careful as mafia.
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February 20 2014 14:09 GMT
#517
All it means is that prplhz is attentive and that makes him townier than he was before.
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February 20 2014 14:12 GMT
#520
On February 20 2014 23:10 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 23:06 marvellosity wrote:
"I don't consider that I've been in multiple games with rayn recently even though I have"

it's brilliant really.

how you consider a game that I replaced into, that ended up being canceled 30 minutes after I posted a game I played with him and therefore I should know better because I played a bunch with him is just beyond me.

Even rayn said you're pulling shit out of your ass right here and that's quite something comming from you considering we're talking about me here.

Literally not what I said. Well done.

What I said was perfectly true. You've been in and read games he was in, so you should know that he's not afraid to take stands. You don't need to interact with him to know that. YOU READ HIS POSTS.

This conversation is at an end.
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February 20 2014 14:15 GMT
#521
In fact, Toad, rayn tunnelled the fuck out of you in SMB.

You know that rayn is extremely categorical and not weak and pushes things to fuck and isn't afraid to take stands.

Your bullshittery is strong.
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February 20 2014 14:16 GMT
#523
rayn! <3

a post I can follow properly :D
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February 20 2014 14:21 GMT
#526
ah hmm. that could make sense. You do use past tense in that post.
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February 20 2014 14:23 GMT
#530
Toad's explanation might actually make sense though.
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February 20 2014 14:23 GMT
#531
Not that it necessarily makes him town, but I don't think I'm gonna damn him for that.
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February 20 2014 14:25 GMT
#535
Ok. marv's proposal:

I don't think we're going to get any further with Toad on this. How about we leave him be and let him scumhunt and do his thing in peace for a while. I think that'll be more useful than keep going over the same things that aren't going to change no matter how much we talk about them.
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February 20 2014 14:27 GMT
#540
/marv slaps Palmar around with a large trout
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February 20 2014 14:36 GMT
#544
rayn stop please
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February 20 2014 14:39 GMT
#548
On February 20 2014 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Im fuckiong done with this shit because i am unable to write any fucking clear posts.
bye, my vote stands, see you aon D2.

It's nothing to do with being clear, it's to do with the fact that arguing further serves no purpose. Come back later.
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February 20 2014 14:48 GMT
#552
On February 20 2014 23:44 suki wrote:
I know Koshi hates rolling scum and doesn't feel like playing when he's scum. I think he is scummy because he is not analyzing people, not pressuring people and generally just calling people scum or town randomly and making it known he's going to be sheeping.

suki, explain to me how this is more likely to come from mafia than town, please.
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February 20 2014 14:57 GMT
#559
On February 20 2014 23:56 suki wrote:
From my previous experience with Koshi, these posts are more likely to come from scum Koshi than town Koshi.

This is just off the top of my head because I've gotta go in 10 mins. In Shadowed: The Reboot, Koshi was town and he was active from the start, putting down votes, pressuring, calling out contraditions. In the original Shadowed game, he just talked random shit and wasn't interested in making reads for at least the first part of Day 1.

Koshi's behaviour makes me feel like he's not interested in finding who is scum but is just happy to sheep. Regardless of my meta read on him, his contributions to this thread haven't been more than sheeping and weak accusations.

Also Koshi I have definitely done more than you this game. At the very least my reads have reasons.

I'll be back later.

Since when do mafia openly state they will sheep? Have you ever come across that?

Can you provide evidence of mafia-Koshi doing that like he has in this game?
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February 20 2014 15:00 GMT
#563
On February 20 2014 23:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 23:57 marvellosity wrote:
On February 20 2014 23:56 suki wrote:
From my previous experience with Koshi, these posts are more likely to come from scum Koshi than town Koshi.

This is just off the top of my head because I've gotta go in 10 mins. In Shadowed: The Reboot, Koshi was town and he was active from the start, putting down votes, pressuring, calling out contraditions. In the original Shadowed game, he just talked random shit and wasn't interested in making reads for at least the first part of Day 1.

Koshi's behaviour makes me feel like he's not interested in finding who is scum but is just happy to sheep. Regardless of my meta read on him, his contributions to this thread haven't been more than sheeping and weak accusations.

Also Koshi I have definitely done more than you this game. At the very least my reads have reasons.

I'll be back later.

Since when do mafia openly state they will sheep? Have you ever come across that?

Can you provide evidence of mafia-Koshi doing that like he has in this game?


I'm too lazy to go check but I'm very certain I've often seen mafia openly admit to sheeping.

Preemptive sheeping rather than sheeping after the event?

Not something I remember really.

Mafia don't usually announce "I am going to sheep!" - they will usually just do so on the down low.
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February 20 2014 15:00 GMT
#565
On February 20 2014 23:59 VIVAX420 wrote:
eh ill bet anyone toad is town. I dont really get marv's case against him. He's a lynch bait player isn't he? lynch bait players usually look less scummy as town. Plus I don't like the people pushing him.

Who in particular?
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February 20 2014 15:01 GMT
#567
Can you tell me why?
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February 20 2014 15:02 GMT
#569
If you didn't want to say, then you shouldn't have said something that needed explaining, should you
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February 20 2014 15:05 GMT
#572
I wonder why Oats isn't playing.
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February 20 2014 15:20 GMT
#579
On February 21 2014 00:18 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On February 20 2014 23:57 marvellosity
Since when do mafia openly state they will sheep? Have you ever come across that?

Can you provide evidence of mafia-Koshi doing that like he has in this game?


Posting from my phone

So if someone open about sheeping that somehow makes it better?

What are your reads on koshi marv? Do you dispute my claim that his contributions have been shitty this game?

Town do egregious or bad things all the time, and they're usually a lot more open and brazen about it than mafia because they don't care. Mafia will try to dress up stuff with a veneer of respectability of usefulness and such. That's mafia 101. So yes, it does make it better, and it should be abundantly obvious why.
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February 20 2014 15:42 GMT
#588
On February 21 2014 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah i really dont like the koshi case #bandwagon
##vote suki
marv, stop bitching about my absence, ill post when I want to.

No, I won't. People need to be able to read you and you going "meh, I'm barely going to post" simply isn't good enough.

You signed up to play this game, so play it.
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February 20 2014 15:43 GMT
#590
On February 21 2014 00:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I still believe that Toad is scum though, ah yeah also marv. surprisingly useless this game. I wonder why.

"I think Toad is mafia, and the person who made the case on the guy I think is mafia is useless"

Brilliant as ever.
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February 20 2014 15:44 GMT
#592
On February 21 2014 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 00:42 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah i really dont like the koshi case #bandwagon
##vote suki
marv, stop bitching about my absence, ill post when I want to.

No, I won't. People need to be able to read you and you going "meh, I'm barely going to post" simply isn't good enough.

You signed up to play this game, so play it.

Where did I say the bolded bit?

Well, you said you're going to post when you want and so far you've done fuck all, so I extrapolate that you want to sit around like a lazy asshole.
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February 20 2014 15:44 GMT
#594
It kinda is actually.
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February 20 2014 15:44 GMT
#595
What can be more useful in the whole thread than someone creating a case on someone you think is mafia?
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February 20 2014 15:49 GMT
#598
So far you've made about 6 posts sheeping other people's ideas.

Further I've talked about most people in the game by now. Stop bullshitting and stop being bad for once in your life.
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February 20 2014 15:52 GMT
#600
Why would anyone need to push more than one person in the first 16 hours of a game? How does that make anyone useless?

Or did you just say that because it makes you feel big to call me useless when I could close my eyes, mash my head on the keyboard and be more useful than you?
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February 20 2014 15:53 GMT
#601
You should want to actually come up with something new and play the game so that, ya know, you're actually playing the game, people can read you, that sort of thing?

Novel concept?
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February 20 2014 15:54 GMT
#603
I think he was wrong to be pushing it but I think it didn't look too bad overall.
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February 20 2014 15:55 GMT
#604
Which is mostly why when I came into the thread I said he was being annoying rather than scummy I guess.
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February 20 2014 16:00 GMT
#606
yeah it was kinda odd that he was desperate for that read on rayn, you're right. I don't know how much I make of it though.
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February 20 2014 16:01 GMT
#607
Especially as he was having a go at Palmar for not taking a stance when he never really outright called Palmar mafia iirc. But that's the kinda thing townies actually do in those situations without realising, so meh.
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February 20 2014 16:09 GMT
#609
I just deleted my post answering that because it would be a lot more useful if you gave your own opinions on these instead of me.
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February 20 2014 16:16 GMT
#616
^

I feel bad but also not bad for losing my patience.
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February 20 2014 16:17 GMT
#618
On February 21 2014 01:11 Oatsmaster wrote:


Suki is scummier in my opinion, felt really opportunistic and I think that koshi is somewhat townie cause of his few jovial posts. Also it was bad case with many things wrong.

Sidesprang pretty town for the vote on Balla because it stands out so much, why do that instead of self voting and hiding?

That might be a reasonable interpretation, however I find it more likely sidesprang simply wouldn't want to play as mafia than as town. It stands out but it also takes a grand total of zero effort.
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February 20 2014 16:21 GMT
#625
On February 21 2014 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 00:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
marv what do you think about the smurfs whole discourse with Palmar?

Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I feel like a townie wouldve had a conclusion to that whole debacle..

Is suki scummier or townier after her case on Koshi?
Also thoughts on sidesprangs insta vote on balla and nothing else?


These 2.

marv, whats the point though as scum. It doesnt force balla into any more pressure or chance of mislynch, it gives him no credit as a bus and it paints a huge target on his back. Like he is way more careful in the scum game I played with him in.

There is no point other than he doesn't want to play the game so just makes some random vote.
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February 20 2014 16:30 GMT
#633
On February 21 2014 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 21 2014 00:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
marv what do you think about the smurfs whole discourse with Palmar?

On February 21 2014 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I feel like a townie wouldve had a conclusion to that whole debacle..

Is suki scummier or townier after her case on Koshi?
Also thoughts on sidesprangs insta vote on balla and nothing else?


These 2.

marv, whats the point though as scum. It doesnt force balla into any more pressure or chance of mislynch, it gives him no credit as a bus and it paints a huge target on his back. Like he is way more careful in the scum game I played with him in.

There is no point other than he doesn't want to play the game so just makes some random vote.

Meh i disagree, its basically fucking his team over completely.

yes, for both alignments.
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February 20 2014 16:34 GMT
#638
On February 21 2014 01:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 01:30 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 21 2014 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 21 2014 00:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
marv what do you think about the smurfs whole discourse with Palmar?

On February 21 2014 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I feel like a townie wouldve had a conclusion to that whole debacle..

Is suki scummier or townier after her case on Koshi?
Also thoughts on sidesprangs insta vote on balla and nothing else?


These 2.

marv, whats the point though as scum. It doesnt force balla into any more pressure or chance of mislynch, it gives him no credit as a bus and it paints a huge target on his back. Like he is way more careful in the scum game I played with him in.

There is no point other than he doesn't want to play the game so just makes some random vote.

Meh i disagree, its basically fucking his team over completely.

yes, for both alignments.

well less so for town cause you feel ALL ALONE IN A SEA OF ANGRY PEOPLE. I wouldnt lynch him today off only that post.

Nor would I, unless I was in a particularly vindictive policy-y type mood, or suddenly everyone I thought was mafia looks town at deadline.
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February 20 2014 16:37 GMT
#640
that's what I basically said, yes
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February 20 2014 16:39 GMT
#643
If we had a vigi that would be pretty wonderful. Vigi hitting town doesn't give us one less lynch either.
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February 20 2014 16:44 GMT
#648
well suki has quite a lot of time to prove herself. She's usually quite useful as town and plays a decent mafia game. I think if she's town she's quite capable of showing us, is what i'm getting at
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February 20 2014 16:51 GMT
#651
eh, that's not what I said. I said that if she's town she's capable of showing us.

so boo to you. BOO I tell thee.
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February 20 2014 17:09 GMT
#655
Somewhat scummy.
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February 20 2014 17:30 GMT
#675
On February 21 2014 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, what do you want to talk about? You don't seem like you want to talk about anything.

can't tell if srs.
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February 20 2014 17:35 GMT
#680
On February 21 2014 02:26 Balla24 wrote:
I know it doesn't make it look like i'm contributing, that will follow, same with who else is mafia. Don't worry rayn, i'm town and ima coming.

It might make him post more who knows, you're undermining it right now though.

Can you explain how? Is your thought process.

1) I want to pressure sidesprang into voting, a random vote after everyone's already talked about him will definitely do it
2) sidesprang sees people say it's useless and decides not to post after all, because otherwise the random one-vote pressure would definitely have made him post

yes? or what?
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February 20 2014 17:36 GMT
#681
rayn stop being retarded.
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February 20 2014 17:46 GMT
#686
Toad, do you think your case on Balla is stronger than what's been said about suki? If so, why? (or how I guess) What's been unconvincing about what people have said about suki to you?
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February 20 2014 17:53 GMT
#688
me neither
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February 20 2014 18:04 GMT
#692
On February 21 2014 02:57 Balla24 wrote:
I'm really really surprised Kush hasn't called me scum yet. I don't think Kush is interested in people's alignments, the past 2 games he has called me scum when my openings were weaker.

Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 12:57 VIVAX420 wrote:
originally i thought it was super scummy but im second guessing myself now. Just seems like the depth of thought involved in that post is pretty townie, because it comes from reading the game with a suspicious mindset.


There's a bunch of stuff that is not saying anything about somebody's alignment. I really would have expected kush to call someone scum by now. Kush who is scum?

yeah kush could actually be mafia:
On February 20 2014 09:13 VIVAX420 wrote:
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On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that.


wait so you are implying that scum is going to be afraid of the default votes enough to come up with a plan like that?

On February 20 2014 09:18 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:13 VIVAX420 wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that.


wait so you are implying that scum is going to be afraid of the default votes enough to come up with a plan like that?


##vote toad

im not playing i want this addressed.

On February 20 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
toad you are backtracking so hard. it's not serious, yet you gave shitty but serious reasons for it.

On February 20 2014 23:59 VIVAX420 wrote:
eh ill bet anyone toad is town. I dont really get marv's case against him. He's a lynch bait player isn't he? lynch bait players usually look less scummy as town. Plus I don't like the people pushing him.

The last quote does not go with his previous attitude at all. Especially with the "I don't get the case".
kush can change his mind on how good the case is all he likes, but it's quite evident that he "gets" the case.
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February 20 2014 21:16 GMT
#726
On February 21 2014 06:05 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 03:04 marvellosity wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:18 VIVAX420 wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:13 VIVAX420 wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that.


wait so you are implying that scum is going to be afraid of the default votes enough to come up with a plan like that?


##vote toad

im not playing i want this addressed.

On February 20 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
toad you are backtracking so hard. it's not serious, yet you gave shitty but serious reasons for it.

On February 20 2014 23:59 VIVAX420 wrote:
eh ill bet anyone toad is town. I dont really get marv's case against him. He's a lynch bait player isn't he? lynch bait players usually look less scummy as town. Plus I don't like the people pushing him.

The last quote does not go with his previous attitude at all. Especially with the "I don't get the case".
kush can change his mind on how good the case is all he likes, but it's quite evident that he "gets" the case.


I don't buy this marv. Between the second and the third post kush has more posts where he talks about toad and I think his read evolved pretty naturally.

What's not to buy? Why aren't you reading? I *specifically* said it wasn't about the evolution of his read, it was about the fact he said he didn't "get" my case despite the fact he clearly gets it as demonstrated by the quotes, because he's essentially using the same points I brought up.
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February 20 2014 21:21 GMT
#727
On February 21 2014 06:14 Balla24 wrote:
EBWOP: cutefluffypuppy lol... didnt mean promethelax although that is who I think it is T_T

it isn't

I don't know who it is, but I know it's not Prome
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February 20 2014 21:27 GMT
#732
On February 21 2014 06:24 prplhz wrote:
this game is all over the place

gosh darnit, people be accusing other people of being mafia! It should be much neater and tidier, obvs.
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February 20 2014 21:29 GMT
#738
On February 21 2014 06:28 VIVAX420 wrote:
So marv you are tryharding scum now because you sucked it up last time?

lol is this really what you've got kush?
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February 20 2014 21:31 GMT
#740
On February 21 2014 06:29 prplhz wrote:
who the hell says gosh darnit anyway

marvellosity when he's teasing prplhz, mainly
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February 20 2014 21:34 GMT
#742
na. how about you answer the clear point against you instead?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 20 2014 21:36 GMT
#745
On February 21 2014 06:34 VIVAX420 wrote:
k what is that

it's been quoted more than once and it's about you, pretty sure you can't miss it.

Run along now. In fact you know what it is, because it's the reason you're omgusing me. Stop playing dumb, twinkletoes, even though it does suit you.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 20 2014 21:36 GMT
#747
On February 21 2014 06:35 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 06:24 suki wrote:
On February 21 2014 06:16 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 06:05 suki wrote:
On February 21 2014 03:04 marvellosity wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:18 VIVAX420 wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:13 VIVAX420 wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that.


wait so you are implying that scum is going to be afraid of the default votes enough to come up with a plan like that?


##vote toad

im not playing i want this addressed.

On February 20 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
toad you are backtracking so hard. it's not serious, yet you gave shitty but serious reasons for it.

On February 20 2014 23:59 VIVAX420 wrote:
eh ill bet anyone toad is town. I dont really get marv's case against him. He's a lynch bait player isn't he? lynch bait players usually look less scummy as town. Plus I don't like the people pushing him.

The last quote does not go with his previous attitude at all. Especially with the "I don't get the case".
kush can change his mind on how good the case is all he likes, but it's quite evident that he "gets" the case.


I don't buy this marv. Between the second and the third post kush has more posts where he talks about toad and I think his read evolved pretty naturally.

What's not to buy? Why aren't you reading? I *specifically* said it wasn't about the evolution of his read, it was about the fact he said he didn't "get" my case despite the fact he clearly gets it as demonstrated by the quotes, because he's essentially using the same points I brought up.


Give me a sec to mull this over.


Ok, you're saying that kush was saying he didn't understand your case, but his case is exactly the same which is toad was back tracking hard.

I'm hesitant to say this is a slam dunk contradiction because there are other parts that you add to your case later, the backtracking was only the first part. It seems really stupid for kush to have said he doesnt get your case, specifically referring to the backtracking. I find it hard to believe anyone could slip like that.

What did I add later? The case was always the same.
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marvellosity
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February 20 2014 21:39 GMT
#749
On February 21 2014 06:37 VIVAX420 wrote:
my problem with toad was 100% different fom yours. then you morphed it into this thing about misunderstanding rayn. wha tyou were saying was actually total bs. Got into to argument about how well toad knows rayn. That is how I know you are mafia. YUour logic is based on total bs.

no, that was just me arguing with toad because toad was talking crap. that's nothing to do with logic, that's just to do with being correct, which i inevitably was.

your problem with toad was exactly the same as mine, and it's exactly why I voted him. Why don't you go check before you run your stupid little mouth off?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 20 2014 21:40 GMT
#752
if you didn't behave so stupidly i wouldn't have to call you stupid though
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 20 2014 21:42 GMT
#755
Here kush. These posts are literally consecutive in the thread with nothing between them.
On February 20 2014 10:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 10:30 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 10:20 marvellosity wrote:
Let's go with this:

##unvote
##Vote: Toadesstern


His +1 on prplhz's vote is super-weak. Why is Toad agreeing with prplhz that rayn is looking for a way not to take stands? Toad is passingly familiar enough with rayn to know that's not how rayn operates.

Naughty toad.


I voted him because I like voting rayn after the last game we had together, just look at the post I quoted while voting him. I think that was the first game we had together so no I don't really know how he plays considering that I ragequited because of him on d2. At least I don't recall any other game.

Do you honestly think I'm going after him in all seriousness right now instead of just taking sidestabs at him for last game?
After posts like these:
On February 20 2014 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
I agree with what prplhz is saying, and to the extend that I don't understand why people care where votes are parked. It's completely irrelevant, there is no pressure in a vote that isn't being actively pushed as a lynch target. No one cares. I have no idea why rayn seems to think we need a plan to address that non-problem. It's an extremely bad opening discussion point and serves no purpose.

Do you agree with prplhz's vote on me?

Actually this goes to everyone.

If you read my posts, you'll find that I actually said the exact same thing and that I as well have my vote on you. So yes.

So why is your vote not on me?


On February 20 2014 08:57 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The quoted below is in addition to votes cast on D1 correct?
On day 1 each player will be randomly assigned a vote on someone else. No one will have more than 3 votes on them to begin with.



##vote: raynpelikoneet
I have a plan and i am not sure if this is the best plan because i have not thought it through from every angle yet but does anyone know what i am doing?

sounds good to me, I like this

##vote: raynpelikoneet


I didn't feel the need to vote myself and revote you for a more dramatic expression of my desire to get you lynched.

?

I had the same idea as prplhz had and said I can't think of a reason why a town would want to proppose this and I'd still like to see his reasoning for all this.

you can't say

1) "I'm not going after him seriously"
and
2) "but I need to hear from him about this"

1) is backing out of it and yet you're pushing it with 2)

my vote stands while I go to bed

On February 20 2014 10:34 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 10:32 marvellosity wrote:
On February 20 2014 10:30 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 10:20 marvellosity wrote:
Let's go with this:

##unvote
##Vote: Toadesstern


His +1 on prplhz's vote is super-weak. Why is Toad agreeing with prplhz that rayn is looking for a way not to take stands? Toad is passingly familiar enough with rayn to know that's not how rayn operates.

Naughty toad.


I voted him because I like voting rayn after the last game we had together, just look at the post I quoted while voting him. I think that was the first game we had together so no I don't really know how he plays considering that I ragequited because of him on d2. At least I don't recall any other game.

Do you honestly think I'm going after him in all seriousness right now instead of just taking sidestabs at him for last game?
After posts like these:
On February 20 2014 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
I agree with what prplhz is saying, and to the extend that I don't understand why people care where votes are parked. It's completely irrelevant, there is no pressure in a vote that isn't being actively pushed as a lynch target. No one cares. I have no idea why rayn seems to think we need a plan to address that non-problem. It's an extremely bad opening discussion point and serves no purpose.

Do you agree with prplhz's vote on me?

Actually this goes to everyone.

If you read my posts, you'll find that I actually said the exact same thing and that I as well have my vote on you. So yes.

So why is your vote not on me?


On February 20 2014 08:57 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The quoted below is in addition to votes cast on D1 correct?
On day 1 each player will be randomly assigned a vote on someone else. No one will have more than 3 votes on them to begin with.



##vote: raynpelikoneet
I have a plan and i am not sure if this is the best plan because i have not thought it through from every angle yet but does anyone know what i am doing?

sounds good to me, I like this

##vote: raynpelikoneet


I didn't feel the need to vote myself and revote you for a more dramatic expression of my desire to get you lynched.

?

I had the same idea as prplhz had and said I can't think of a reason why a town would want to proppose this and I'd still like to see his reasoning for all this.

you can't say

1) "I'm not going after him seriously"
and
2) "but I need to hear from him about this"

1) is backing out of it and yet you're pushing it with 2)

my vote stands while I go to bed

you don't seem to have gotten the timeline of events correct.
First I voted him, then I asked him about this and why he's doing that. So yeah I actually can say that because that's how it went down

On February 20 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
toad you are backtracking so hard. it's not serious, yet you gave shitty but serious reasons for it.

You quite agree with why I was pushing Toad as mafia
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 20 2014 21:44 GMT
#759
you'd put your vote on him... but whatever, talking with you is useless, go do something else
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marvellosity
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February 20 2014 21:46 GMT
#762
On February 21 2014 06:45 VIVAX420 wrote:
it literally doens't matter that we both found him scummy. what matters is my reasons were townie and yours made no sense.

My reasons all made perfect sense and you're bad or scum if you don't think so.
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marvellosity
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February 20 2014 23:17 GMT
#799
On February 21 2014 08:14 suki wrote:
CuteFluffyPuppy, why do you think this 'bravado' line of action is more likely to come from scum Koshi than town Koshi?

What scum objectives do you perceive Koshi having in his posts?

I'm curious what your answer to the 2nd question would have been when you made your case on him.
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marvellosity
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February 20 2014 23:29 GMT
#803
I dunno, I gotta re-read everything you and balla said to each other. Didn't parse it very well the first time and it seems like it should be important.

My point with the Koshi thing is you're effectively calling him out for the same thing you did in the first place.
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marvellosity
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February 20 2014 23:32 GMT
#806
also lol: "wasn't giving reads" -> "was just throwing around reads"

he was eating cake but also not eating cake. Curses!
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marvellosity
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February 20 2014 23:39 GMT
#810
On February 21 2014 08:37 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 08:29 marvellosity wrote:
I dunno, I gotta re-read everything you and balla said to each other. Didn't parse it very well the first time and it seems like it should be important.

My point with the Koshi thing is you're effectively calling him out for the same thing you did in the first place.


If you're saying I'm not giving reads and not analyzing . . . Well I am trying.

I want to hear your opinion on me because it seems you've been picking at my words for a while but not actually coming out and saying whether you think that makes me town or scum.

That's not what I'm saying. I picked holes in your Koshi case and now you're picking effectively the same holes in what Mr Smurf said. Not that you're not giving reads or analysing or something, dunno how you even thought that? I thought your case made you quite suspicious but I don't have a firm opinion on you until I read your exchange with Balla again.
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marvellosity
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February 20 2014 23:39 GMT
#811
On February 21 2014 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is marv scum too?

I have a 7 page filter halfway though day 1, statistically I have a roughly 100% chance to be town.
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marvellosity
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February 20 2014 23:41 GMT
#815
On February 21 2014 08:40 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Pg 25-27
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 22:51 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 22:42 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 22:35 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 22:31 Palmar wrote:
Toad who is scum and why is it you?

I just got back in here finished reading... give me some time but it's actually up in there if you consider the fact that it's a write-up while reading and things changing a little

On February 20 2014 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 22:29 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 14:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 10:40 Toadesstern wrote:
@rayn: Can't be #1 because I have no idea how someone could have come to that conclusion based on the phrasing from our lovevly host.

On February 20 2014 11:12 Toadesstern wrote:
Your explanation is possible, that's the sad thing here.

Toad how do these two comments go together?

They go together as "#1 didn't cross my mind at that time because I have no idea how someone could come up with it, so I didn't take it into consideration before you mentioned it. Once you did mention it I figured it's possible"

wait wait wait. what?

"why didn't you think it's blue? - I have no idea what blue is, so I thought it might be green or yellow and thought that's weird, once you explained what blue is I realized it might be blue"

So you are saying you didn't know how i came up with what i did after i said in thread why i came up with it.
Explain to me where in your opinion i explain why i came up with what i did.

In other words, what happened between the posts of your i quoted?

no I'm saying I didn't have the same misunderstanding you had about the phrasing, therefore what you innitially thought didn't cross my mind and wasn't part of my theories what you might be doing with that plan of yours. Once you cleared up that you thought those votes would add up I realized it might make sense given that misunderstanding.
I just never had that misunderstanding to begin with which is the reason I couldn't make sense of it.

My problem is this. And now, please answer this properly and in detail:

You make a post which says this:
On February 20 2014 10:40 Toadesstern wrote:
@rayn: Can't be #1 because I have no idea how someone could have come to that conclusion based on the phrasing from our lovevly host.

Then there is something that happens between here because you then say this:
On February 20 2014 11:12 Toadesstern wrote:
Your explanation is possible, that's the sad thing here.

Now what is that something that happens between these posts? Why do you change your mind and what's the particular post that makes you change your mind?


You asked me about my reasoning earlier on. The first part is talking about my stance on you and how I got to that stance from my PoV before you did this post:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 20 2014 10:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So here we go (marv i would have expected a bit more from you, i am sad):

There are three possibilities about my motives and here they are:

1) I am town and this is my thought process; I misunderstood the setup as i have already explained and thought the votes from previous days are added to the current days votes. That's why i made my plan in the first place. Now this would have been the most pro-town plan because i would have later on brought up the fact that we should treat this as a majority lynch and at the end of the day people who are not in the majority wagon put their votes on themselves. In that way we would have eliminated any cons for the town in setup we possibly can, which is pretty much everything other than the randomness which we can't eliminate.

However, that was not the case. Now, i still stand behind my "if you "unvote", vote yourself" plan because of this. If we do not push this policy it leads to possibly stupid and irrelevant questions like "you don't think this dude is scum anymore, why is your vote still on him?". We don't want that because we benefit from clarity and it's beneficial we know exactly WHEN and WHY people drop their scumreads and where they head next. If they don't have next target they should inform that by voting for themselves. This prevents mafia from misrepresenting people because you can always back up your thoughts with your actions in thread (most importantly voting). Having no possibility to unvote is pro-mafia, if you't agree with that you need to explain me why. It's never irrelevant where your vote is at.

2) I did the same pro-town thing as mafia.

3) I just made all this up and and i was just saying shit for no reason at the start of the game.


Now here is my question, especially to prplhz, Toad, Palmar and suki;
Why did you not try to see what i was/am trying to do and how that would make me whatever alignment. What you did is you took some posts from me and painted them scummy without no thinking behind it. I want to know why.

If what i was doing was (1), then i am town.
If what i was doing is (2), you can't tell my alignment.
If what i was doing is (3), then you are saying i am some random noob which this post already proves i am not because i would have came up with a decent explanation on the fly.

So again, why am i mafia? Especially prplhz and Toad?

The second part you're quoting is explaining how I realized that your explanation (the above post) makes sense if we take the misunderstanding as a given, which I did not consider before you cleared it up simply because I did not have that same misunderstanding.


Toad's explanation regarding the Rayn plan has left me with more question marks than anything. His initial comment doesn't specify anything about how it's about his reads without the explanation, especially since he referred to the comment as "can't be #1" which indicates he read the actual arguments, yet it's supposedly about his explanation as to why he thought Rayn was scum. It feels to me like a reason he thought of after the events. Not going to push it as per marv's proposal.

Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 23:09 marvellosity wrote:
On February 20 2014 23:08 Palmar wrote:
I really like prplhz's point about koshi, don't you marv? doesn't it make you all warm inside?

no, it's exactly the kind of thing Koshi would do as town more than mafia, he'd be more careful as mafia.

Don't you think Koshi would know how you're likely to respond to this? It's fairly clear to anyone reading games that carelessness is seen as town. With someone as forthcoming with their thoughts as Koshi usually is, I don't find it unlikely at all. It's an easy way to look town without putting much effort in the game, and Koshi abhors playing scum.
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 08:14 suki wrote:
CuteFluffyPuppy, why do you think this 'bravado' line of action is more likely to come from scum Koshi than town Koshi?

What scum objectives do you perceive Koshi having in his posts?

Because Koshi does not like playing scum. The way he's playing is the laziest way to still get read as town. I think a town Koshi would take the opportunity to do a more thorough read and get a good read on some players. He hasn't really tried.

Koshi's objective is to get read as town with the least amount of effort.

It's extremely difficult to look "naturally" careless. I've played more scumgames than anyone else on TL Mafia and I have an exceptional record and I can't really do it.
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marvellosity
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February 20 2014 23:48 GMT
#824
are you insane?
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marvellosity
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February 20 2014 23:49 GMT
#826
I'm literally totally incapable of posting this much as mafia and you know it

what are you doing?
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 00:04 GMT
#832
On February 21 2014 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what do you want to talk about?

I want to know why you're calling me mafia when you know I can't be mafia, for one.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 00:14 GMT
#834
well, this is boring.
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February 21 2014 00:27 GMT
#836
Where did I change my read on you Smurf? It's been pretty consistent. Further it's nothing to do with not reading properly - I said it was kinda odd and it was kinda odd, but I didn't make anything of it. For obvious reasons I don't think or talk about stuff that I don't make much of.

Is everyone stupid or something?
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 00:28 GMT
#837
Like, you need to explain very carefully where I changed my read. Saying something is odd is not changing my read.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 00:29 GMT
#838
Unless you're seriously suggesting people can't lean town on someone and think something is odd?
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 00:52 GMT
#841
Your point about Toad's activity is totally wrong. Do some research in the database if you lke.

Personally I meant that I didn't believe that Toad believed in his own case, as in it was fake. Dunno about Palmerston.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 00:53 GMT
#842
On February 21 2014 09:51 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 09:27 marvellosity wrote:
Where did I change my read on you Smurf? It's been pretty consistent. Further it's nothing to do with not reading properly - I said it was kinda odd and it was kinda odd, but I didn't make anything of it. For obvious reasons I don't think or talk about stuff that I don't make much of.

Is everyone stupid or something?

I presumed you found it odd in a scummish fashion given Oats brought it up as a thing he thought I was scummy for. As you agreed with him on it being odd, I figured you found me questionable/scummy for it as a result.

I found it odd in an odd fashion. That's why I said it was odd. The "but I don't know how much to make of it though" means I didn't attach much alignment-indicative to it. I would have hoped this was obvious.

I need to stop assuming people understand posts (not just mine, everyone's :/)
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 00:58 GMT
#843
did rayn really call me mafia and then run away?

What terribly poor form.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 01:01 GMT
#845
we're only halfway through the day prplhz. A bunch of stuff will happen tomorrow. Maybe we still lynch Toad, yes. Maybe we don't. Who knows? Find out right here, same bat-time, same bat-channel!
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 01:11 GMT
#852
Usually when rayn calls me mafia he is mafia (say ##, Vengeful). Not sure that's the case here though, he might just be deranged.

At the very least it's interesting or I care about it, dunno why you wouldn't suki. Unless you're that sure he's town that you don't have to care about it...
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 01:15 GMT
#856
On February 21 2014 10:13 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
You have different standards though. For a player like Kush, it'll be easy to look naturally careless. Everything is always relative.

Koshi's play is *extremely* stylistic, so i think what i said holds pretty true for him.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 01:21 GMT
#859
On February 21 2014 10:18 Balla24 wrote:
Exactly marv, it's very interesting. Regardless of what alignment rayn is he ALWAYS has a reason to do something. If he votes someone it's likely that he DOES see something.

This is the second time he's done a "does anybody else see what I see?" type of play.

That's not how I'd term it. I think he thinks it's self-evident. I read it again and apparently because I said it's hard to fake looking careless as mafia then I'm mafia? No idea really.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 09:45 GMT
#910
Balla gets to not be called stupid for not understanding I'm 100% town because he's new.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 09:48 GMT
#913
Koshi: name who the 3 scum are now as your best guess.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 09:50 GMT
#914
Actually Balla is kinda terrible for not realising i'm blates town after all, given he thinks the target i brought up and pushed is mafia and his other mafia target is one i brought something to the table with as well.

Bad Balla.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 09:52 GMT
#915
What's the point in saying the game is hard Kosh if you haven't bothered to reread half the players? :/
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 09:53 GMT
#918
I thought Balla was looking quite ok by the time I went to bed last night
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February 21 2014 10:16 GMT
#929
stop trolling Palmar
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February 21 2014 10:19 GMT
#932
no, I'm telling you to stop trolling which is nothing to do with that, stop being a prick.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 10:22 GMT
#934
Shame you stopped playing yesterday evening then, right?
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 10:32 GMT
#940
no, you're a boring person.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 10:35 GMT
#942
that would at least make you less tedious if you did

at least rayn isn't tedious, he's just deranged
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 10:38 GMT
#944
meh I'm in an absolutely foul mood for reasons outside-of-mafia, so I'll probably stop being annoyed at you for no reason now. sorry bout that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 10:42 GMT
#948
no I'll still be here. I still haven't re-read the whole Balla-suki exchange from yesterday that I need to though.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 10:43 GMT
#951
it could also mean he didn't

that was useful
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 10:45 GMT
#952
The point is Oats. There are two options

1) he copied the format as mafia
2) that's how he writes stuff as town and he has done so again

you can't tell which. So you ask yourself about the content. And Koshi said he found the content fine. That's the point of it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 10:49 GMT
#956
Toad is mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 10:49 GMT
#957
Multiple times he calls me a liar (even though I never, ever lie, as either alignment) but he's never willing to call me scum for it.

Scum scum scum.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 10:51 GMT
#958
On February 21 2014 19:47 Toadesstern wrote:
Remember that I said I'll play differently this game pregame? That's what I meant, I'm trying to get back into a little less hypno-toad but anything that isn't "Toad is the laziest bum on this planet as mafia" about me is an outright lie from marv.


By the way, here Toad is trying to paint himself as a useless douchebag, so that any reasonable point about him (like he should be trying, he should remember what someone he played with a week ago played like, he should bother to actually make some effort) he can brush away with "oh but i'm so shit, you're such a liar".

Bullcrap.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 10:53 GMT
#959
On February 21 2014 19:47 Toadesstern wrote:
Btw marv, seems like your point about how I frequently played with rayn is, yes I know you didn't phrase it like that but it sure did read like that, I wasn't the only one reading it that way and it did feel like a poor attempt to paint me as mafia was considered to be bullshit by most people as well. At the least rayn, NotVixax and I all called it complete bullshit, yet you're boasting about how it's been so awesome and right...

still catching up

If you read "passingly familiar" as "plays with frequently" then you're just a fucking idiot and deserve to be lynched for being a fucking idiot, never mind being mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 10:54 GMT
#963
Also I was never boasting about how it was "awesome and right", Toad, I was pointing out that what I said was correct - you are passingly familiar with rayn's play and you have in fact been in multiple games with him recently. That's simply fact.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 10:55 GMT
#964
Toad is 100% mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 10:55 GMT
#965
wait, 95%

5% for being a clueless moron
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 10:56 GMT
#966
On February 21 2014 19:54 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm calling you a liar because you're a liar. I've got you in my bottom 5 people if that makes you happy. I wouldn't exactly call that townie and if you look through my filter you'll actually find me mentioning you doing weird shit like that a lot.
I don't have a case on you so I'm left with that, especially since I still think Balla's an awesome lynch for today.

Also no, I'm not painting myself as a luseless douchebag, if you had actually read what I posted you would have read that I said pregame that I wanted to change my style, I EXACTLY pointed out what I'm talking about in that post you're quoting and if I don't follow up feel free to lynch me based on that. I'm not going to be the usual hypno-Toad this game.

yeah last time in Fruity mafia you had the same attitude towards me. that went well for you too
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 10:56 GMT
#968
Given you just played with me in Shadow, Toad, you also know that this play is nothing like my mafia play.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 10:56 GMT
#969
On February 21 2014 19:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
im thinking more clueless moron.
Wanna lynch Palmar marv?

no, I want to lynch Toad, and so should you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 10:57 GMT
#970
My vote is totally locked in, it's not going to change today.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 11:00 GMT
#973
I just can't accept that Toad can possibly believe anything he writes.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 11:00 GMT
#974
Oats, you can't even call a cat bad at mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 11:01 GMT
#977
I've not said bullshit about you even once.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 11:02 GMT
#978
You have played with rayn. That is correct. I never said you played with him all the time.
You have made effort as mafia. That is correct. You caught up on a whole game recently (even if some of it you didn't know your alignment, you caught up on the rest and then you played the game from then on).

Stop saying I'm a liar when everything I said is true.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 11:03 GMT
#980

Remember that I said I'll play differently this game pregame? That's what I meant, I'm trying to get back into a little less hypno-toad but anything that isn't "Toad is the laziest bum on this planet as mafia" about me is an outright lie from marv.

Just *look* at this! Anything about Toad that isn't calling him the laziest guy ever is a lie! Therefore - how is one supposed to make meta arguments or behavioural arguments against him if that's his stance? BS BS BS BS BS
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 11:04 GMT
#981
On February 21 2014 19:54 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm calling you a liar because you're a liar. I've got you in my bottom 5 people if that makes you happy. I wouldn't exactly call that townie and if you look through my filter you'll actually find me mentioning you doing weird shit like that a lot.
I don't have a case on you so I'm left with that, especially since I still think Balla's an awesome lynch for today.

If you are calling me an outright liar and you are town, then I am 100% mafia to you.

But you're not doing that.

Cos you're mafia
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 11:11 GMT
#988
On February 21 2014 20:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 20:04 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 19:54 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm calling you a liar because you're a liar. I've got you in my bottom 5 people if that makes you happy. I wouldn't exactly call that townie and if you look through my filter you'll actually find me mentioning you doing weird shit like that a lot.
I don't have a case on you so I'm left with that, especially since I still think Balla's an awesome lynch for today.

If you are calling me an outright liar and you are town, then I am 100% mafia to you.

But you're not doing that.

Cos you're mafia

that's because the first 2 attempts could have been retardation while the 3rd attempt happened when I wasn't in here and I just got back
Show nested quote +

Btw marv, seems like your point about how I frequently played with rayn is, yes I know you didn't phrase it like that but it sure did read like that, I wasn't the only one reading it that way and it did feel like a poor attempt to paint me as mafia was considered to be bullshit by most people as well. At the least rayn, NotVixax and I all called it complete bullshit, yet you're boasting about how it's been so awesome and right...


How much more do I need to call you mafia? I got here 10 minutes ago and found you sprouting bullshit about me again. I'm not going to yolo-vote you and call you 100% certain mafia without rechecking your filter

That isn't calling me mafia though. That's dancing around calling me mafia.

Pretty massive difference. Btw you said "bottom 5" and now you're trying to argue you're calling me mafia. You suck.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 11:13 GMT
#989
Here is what you should have said Toad:

"marv is a liar, he's outright lying about me. Therefore he is 100% mafia"

Not "marv is a liar, he's outright lying about me. he weakly painted me as mafia earlier. But the case on Balla is stronger and marv is only in bottom 5 even though he's outright lying about me because that makes perfect sense"

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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 11:13 GMT
#991
If you think I am an outright liar then you don't need to check my filter.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 11:14 GMT
#992
Nothing else in my filter matters if I am outright lying to try to get you lynched.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 11:15 GMT
#995
ok scum
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 11:17 GMT
#997
Ok, I'll stop.

Just to all townies:

Do you think it's possible that you think a bad meta case (balla) is stronger than someone who is repeatedly outright lying about you to get you lynched? (marv)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 11:22 GMT
#1000
you've had some bad luck quoting people with broken tags this game Palmar
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 11:26 GMT
#1002
On February 21 2014 20:23 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 20:18 Palmar wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:15 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:11 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:09 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:04 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 19:54 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm calling you a liar because you're a liar. I've got you in my bottom 5 people if that makes you happy. I wouldn't exactly call that townie and if you look through my filter you'll actually find me mentioning you doing weird shit like that a lot.
I don't have a case on you so I'm left with that, especially since I still think Balla's an awesome lynch for today.

If you are calling me an outright liar and you are town, then I am 100% mafia to you.

But you're not doing that.

Cos you're mafia

that's because the first 2 attempts could have been retardation while the 3rd attempt happened when I wasn't in here and I just got back

Btw marv, seems like your point about how I frequently played with rayn is, yes I know you didn't phrase it like that but it sure did read like that, I wasn't the only one reading it that way and it did feel like a poor attempt to paint me as mafia was considered to be bullshit by most people as well. At the least rayn, NotVixax and I all called it complete bullshit, yet you're boasting about how it's been so awesome and right...


How much more do I need to call you mafia? I got here 10 minutes ago and found you sprouting bullshit about me again. I'm not going to yolo-vote you and call you 100% certain mafia without rechecking your filter

That isn't calling me mafia though. That's dancing around calling me mafia.

Pretty massive difference. Btw you said "bottom 5" and now you're trying to argue you're calling me mafia. You suck.

read the fucking post
I got here 10 minutes ago and found you sprouting bullshit about me again. I'm not going to yolo-vote you and call you 100% certain mafia without rechecking your filter

Like this is the 4th time I mention this but I apparently have to: I specifically mentioned that I will try to not play as hypno-toad and will play more thought through so no I'[b]m not going to call you 100% mafia without a second of a thought or any checking up on it because that's EXACTLY what I'm trying to get rid off.


marv isn't wrong though.

If you say he knows he's lying, marv is scum. Townies don't lie to get people lynched.


Okay, you know I said I want to play more thought-out and I said I'd so pregame, correct?

Have you ever tried to get rid of a mistake you're doing repeatedly? Anything. Playing golf and your swing is to much from the outside? Playing trombone and you always get that one note wrong because you think it's an F and not something else?

What do you do to get rid of it? You do the opposite and start out with exaggerating it to get a feeling for it. Because if you're trying to get rid of it by playing "normal" chances are you're still WAY wrong and not enough in the right direction, it just feels normal to you because you're so used to your mistake.

So no I'm not going to call him mafia without rechecking his filter if my attempt is to get rid of exactly that.

Toad, you can't excuse "trying to play differently" with not thinking someone is 100% mafia who keeps lying about you to get you lynched.

Some things just don't change, and that's one of them.

Do you know why? Because 0 townies in the history of mafia have lied repeatedly to get someone lynched. That's not something you "fix", that's self-evidently true.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 11:30 GMT
#1007
On February 21 2014 20:29 Palmar wrote:
Marv there isn't enough scum in this game. We need to fix this.

I was thinking of writing a classic Palmar list style post, I actually have it ready, but the problem is I only have one person in the Scum group, and 2 people in vigipls group.

<3

I'm glad you thought this. When I went to bed last night I thought maybe sidesprang is mafia after all, because I wasn't sure who the other 2 mafia were supposed to be.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 11:34 GMT
#1010
On February 21 2014 09:00 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Pg 28-30
Suki suspects Koshi for the same things I do. Makes me feel good about her. I disagree with the talk around it as it's the way Koshi represents himself that is so conscious that I feel it has to be intentional. He's aware of how the posts he makes will be read and thus posts them as such.

The pretending of Koshi to have a serious reason to vote Balla does seem town to me though. There was an active intent to try and get a read on Suki using a plan. Thinking about that I'm coming around to Koshi. The times I've ever seen scum fake making a trap and then springing it have been very rare, and this was an on the fly thing.
##Unvote
##Vote CuteFluffyPuppy


Not sure what to think right now.

This is kinda annoying because it looks quite town.

Seems a rather convoluted play to go make a case on Koshi and then "remember" something Koshi did earlier and decide he's not mafia for it after all, all within a single set of catchup posts.

I suppose the flip opinion might be that as he read through the thread it looked like influential players weren't keen on the Koshi thing and suki got a lot of heat for her Koshi case.

So now I'm not so sure as when I started this post.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 11:40 GMT
#1015
ok, just carrying on looking through Smurf's filter. The biggest problem I have at the end of it is that after all his catchup posts he actually has no conclusions about anything, at all.

I have no real idea what Smurf thinks about anything.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 11:41 GMT
#1016
I know who it is Palmar and it's not helping you discuss this with me :p
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 11:45 GMT
#1019
On February 21 2014 20:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 20:40 Palmar wrote:
Btw @Koshi:

I have 4 people in my two "town-tiers". Three of them are prplhz, marv and I. you get extra town points if you're attentive enough about me (you should be, you said I'm scum) go guess the fourth person.

it better be rayn.

Do you think rayn calling me mafia is townie, Koshi? why else do you have him solid town now?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 11:55 GMT
#1022
On February 21 2014 20:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 20:45 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:44 Koshi wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:40 Palmar wrote:
Btw @Koshi:

I have 4 people in my two "town-tiers". Three of them are prplhz, marv and I. you get extra town points if you're attentive enough about me (you should be, you said I'm scum) go guess the fourth person.

it better be rayn.

Do you think rayn calling me mafia is townie, Koshi? why else do you have him solid town now?

Biggest filter & Driven.
Calling you mafia does not make him mafia even if you say he does it when he is mafia. Not this game. He was also too smug about it. Is he normally smug about it?

that's a good answer, that's fine.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 12:22 GMT
#1029
I like the effort with the formatting. Nice distinctions between the levels.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 12:25 GMT
#1032
yeah normally it's boring 3 tier green/black/red.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 12:33 GMT
#1036
On February 21 2014 21:31 Palmar wrote:
I am almost always terribly wrong on one mafia and call him town, so you could check out in my top 7.

But I think toad is a good day 1 lynch.

The problem is I agree completely with where you put absolutely everyone, except I'd probably move kush down one.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 12:33 GMT
#1037
oh and prplhz down one too. but yeah. much the same.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 12:38 GMT
#1039
damnit

I didn't think that one through
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 12:46 GMT
#1043
On February 21 2014 21:41 Palmar wrote:
no taking back, from now on you must consider me confirmed town and leader of town for the rest of the game.

Actually you can be a god and mafia

that's why I moved prplhz down, because I wanted him to be town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 12:47 GMT
#1045
actually.......
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 12:50 GMT
#1047
Actually inconsistent is quite the correct word to use there
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 12:55 GMT
#1054
On February 21 2014 21:52 VIVAX420 wrote:
to me toad seems consistent in his cluelessness from what ive read

Yeah this is why everyone thought he was town in Shadow too, and it was terrible.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 12:57 GMT
#1056
On February 21 2014 21:52 VIVAX420 wrote:
to me toad seems consistent in his cluelessness from what ive read

Oats was specifically referring to where Toad was being inconsistent though. So in "context" as you put it yourself, it was quite the correct word.

Wriggle wriggle.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 13:01 GMT
#1057
On February 21 2014 21:48 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 14:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
suki's post about rayn's policy was really bad because it served no purpose, nobody was asking her what she thought and she just comments on it that it doesnt make Rayn scum or town. Completely useless and not what a townie thinks about at all.

Toad because of his wishywashyness on rayn and his inconsistant stance on rayn.

Basically what other people said.


"wishywashy", "inconsistant."
both words are completely meaningless in this context. His point on suki: lynch suki because he talked when no one told him to. and that's why hes scum.

oats is like so obviosuly scummy reading his filter. every post he makes is scummy. that is just the firs.t

Actually I find this whole post pretty bad, because you're misrepresenting what Oats said about suki as well. The main thrust is obviously that suki commented on something without giving an alignment-opinion on it, and therefore it was filler. Not that suki talked without being told to. In fact Oats' point, rather, is that suki's post may have been excusable if someone had asked for her opinion on the rayn-policy stuff and had to give one, but she specifically went out of her way to give a post that didn't have any conclusions.

In short, you suck kush.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 13:03 GMT
#1059
Palmar already explained it, also you already commented on the "backtracking" yourself.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 13:06 GMT
#1061
not the point.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 13:08 GMT
#1066
there it goes!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 13:13 GMT
#1069
Absolutely no idea.

Anyway, do you have any more evidence beyond that one post?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 13:19 GMT
#1073
Actually I'm warming up for lynching kush regardless, he doesn't normally say weak shit like that.

Especially when he knows Oats in general says weak shit constantly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 13:20 GMT
#1075
Oats calls things useless constantly in every game he plays, why are you trying to use that as evidence?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 13:21 GMT
#1076
I guarantee in any game Oats has played with me he has called me useless at some point
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 13:21 GMT
#1077
(yet somehow I rage against him every time for it, for its sheer hypocrisy)
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 13:25 GMT
#1083
On February 21 2014 22:25 VIVAX420 wrote:
know when you like half write up a huge case on someone then in the middle you realize they are probably town then you are like fuck i wasted all this time

This would suggest you ever made a huge case on someone ever.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 13:41 GMT
#1090
that's a playstation controller you're after
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 13:53 GMT
#1094
that would be the interpretation yes. The 2nd exchange you had last night that I was able to pay more attention to/follow better had Balla looking better because he was doing the aggressive pursuing and you were quite defensive.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 13:59 GMT
#1099
On February 21 2014 22:54 suki wrote:
So you're just content with trolling the newbie huh

The problem is, suki, you ask questions like the one you just asked to Palmar, which come across as really odd.

It seems kinda obvious that kush had just been in the thread spouting off about Oats and so at that moment Palmar was thinking about kush and Oats in relation to lynchings, so he just made that semi-throwaway comment.

Further what possible answer can he give that might affect his alignment in any way? "oops I forgot you suki" "omg you must be scum for forgetting that I'm your #2 read"? I don't understand the angle of the question you're asking or what you're trying to achieve, and I don't think that's the only instance of that happening.

Further still, you are a girl and I'm scared of girls.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 14:04 GMT
#1102
So how do you feel about Palmar today, prp?
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 14:04 GMT
#1103
you thought he was scummy yesterday and now you're hopping on his lynch
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 14:10 GMT
#1114
On February 21 2014 23:05 suki wrote:
Palmar tell me why my case is bad and why that makes me scummy.

And marv, if he does say 'oops I forgot about you' and then continues to push my lynch then there's some dissonance going on there. Because if he feels so strongly about me being scum but he's willing to lynch two 'vigi please' people over me (since vigi please is higher on the list), then his story and his actions don't check out.

I find it hard to understand if you genuinely believe this, or it's just because you're new or something. He had you as "maybe scum" I think? below scum-Toad, that doesn't even start to suggest "so sure" that you're mafia.

It's stretching my credulity that you think if he thinks about lynching people who are not-you that his story and actions suddenly don't check out. That's just ... it just doesn't make very much sense tbh. He's not trying to lynch either you or kush/Oats right now, so I have no idea where this is going. I'm frowning while I'm writing this because it's hard to convey quite how weird your angle is.

Like assuming you're town anyway, why would it be a bad thing if Palmar is considering other people ahead of you? just because he put you as "maybe scum" on a list? really?
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 14:11 GMT
#1116
On February 21 2014 23:07 prplhz wrote:
he was never scum tier material, i just thought he was acting a little odd but i accept that it could just have been a "vote this and lets see what happens" kind of thing, i think he's done that plenty of times before

he seems like he's in a very jolly mood and i think that points at town. i think he likes town more than scum.

also this toad lynch is more yours than his

yes I said "his" because you were attacking Palmar and Palmar is championing toad, not because Palmar specifically started the lynch.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 14:13 GMT
#1122
It's nothing to do with shitting on you for being bad, I'm trying to understand your mindset to see if you are mafia or town.

I shit on Oats for being bad, not you.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 14:17 GMT
#1128
On February 21 2014 23:16 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:07 prplhz wrote:
he was never scum tier material, i just thought he was acting a little odd but i accept that it could just have been a "vote this and lets see what happens" kind of thing, i think he's done that plenty of times before

he seems like he's in a very jolly mood and i think that points at town. i think he likes town more than scum.

also this toad lynch is more yours than his

yes I said "his" because you were attacking Palmar and Palmar is championing toad, not because Palmar specifically started the lynch.

it wasn't really an attack, it was just a "bah i don't like railroading anyone, not even toad, lets see if something odd is happening that i can prod at" and then palmar did something odd and i pointed it out.

maybe he is championing it but i really still consider it your lynch because he's using your arguments. i guess in reality it the arguments' lynch but they're your arguments so it's kind of your lynch. doesn't matter all that much whose lynch it is though i guess.

what do you think about oats? is he another "leave him be and we'll figure him out"?

yes it's irrelevant, i was explaining why i said his. ergo you said palmar was shady and palmar was championing toad. literally nothing more to it.

i have no idea about oats at all. not sure we'll figure him out eventually either.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 14:19 GMT
#1131
problem is you get lynched in that scenario palmar

suki:
On February 21 2014 22:51 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 21:33 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 21:31 Palmar wrote:
I am almost always terribly wrong on one mafia and call him town, so you could check out in my top 7.

But I think toad is a good day 1 lynch.

The problem is I agree completely with where you put absolutely everyone, except I'd probably move kush down one.


marv I take this to mean you think I'm scummy? I ask because you still haven't straight up said how Balla and I look even though you kept saying you had to go back and re-read our exchange.

On February 21 2014 22:53 marvellosity wrote:
that would be the interpretation yes. The 2nd exchange you had last night that I was able to pay more attention to/follow better had Balla looking better because he was doing the aggressive pursuing and you were quite defensive.

On February 21 2014 22:59 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 22:54 suki wrote:
So you're just content with trolling the newbie huh

The problem is, suki, you ask questions like the one you just asked to Palmar, which come across as really odd.

It seems kinda obvious that kush had just been in the thread spouting off about Oats and so at that moment Palmar was thinking about kush and Oats in relation to lynchings, so he just made that semi-throwaway comment.

Further what possible answer can he give that might affect his alignment in any way? "oops I forgot you suki" "omg you must be scum for forgetting that I'm your #2 read"? I don't understand the angle of the question you're asking or what you're trying to achieve, and I don't think that's the only instance of that happening.

Further still, you are a girl and I'm scared of girls.

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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 14:22 GMT
#1134
I wouldn't even rage though, it'd be no fun.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 14:28 GMT
#1138
On February 21 2014 23:24 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:22 marvellosity wrote:
I wouldn't even rage though, it'd be no fun.

yeah, it needs to be an actual challenge for it to be fun.


On February 21 2014 11:23 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 11:18 prplhz wrote:
On February 21 2014 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
why would Palmar do that as scum.

what do i know maybe he doesn't want to push a guy to a lynch who is town or maybe he likes a toad lynch better or whatever make something up

don't you think it's weird that palmar is making bad associative reads?


I do and I really like this analysis

##unvote
##vote Palmar

This vote came completely out of left-field. If we go back to the Koshi case that suki made, within that case Toad had no redeeming features at all still (and could be voted for later). But here Palmar is worth a vote for prplhz mentioning bad associative reads and that's it.

It's like it was one thing about Palmar which was perhaps semi-significant that was worth a vote without considering anything else that Palmar had done at all.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 14:31 GMT
#1143
On February 21 2014 23:30 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:24 Palmar wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:22 marvellosity wrote:
I wouldn't even rage though, it'd be no fun.

yeah, it needs to be an actual challenge for it to be fun.


On February 21 2014 11:23 suki wrote:
On February 21 2014 11:18 prplhz wrote:
On February 21 2014 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
why would Palmar do that as scum.

what do i know maybe he doesn't want to push a guy to a lynch who is town or maybe he likes a toad lynch better or whatever make something up

don't you think it's weird that palmar is making bad associative reads?


I do and I really like this analysis

##unvote
##vote Palmar

This vote came completely out of left-field. If we go back to the Koshi case that suki made, within that case Toad had no redeeming features at all still (and could be voted for later). But here Palmar is worth a vote for prplhz mentioning bad associative reads and that's it.

It's like it was one thing about Palmar which was perhaps semi-significant that was worth a vote without considering anything else that Palmar had done at all.


Did you maybe miss the entire post that I made on palmar like just before prplhz's post? The one where I said here is why I find Palmar scummy?

er.... quite possibly

let me go check. I was actually browsing through trying to find something Balla said and just found that instead
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 14:33 GMT
#1145
my bad suki I retract. That'll teach me not to think about things when I'm looking for something else.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 14:34 GMT
#1149
CuteFluffyPuppy - could you tell me in what way Oats looks particularly bad this game compared to normal please?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 14:39 GMT
#1158
On February 21 2014 23:38 suki wrote:
Great. You go ahead and sheep your way to victory. I should try that some time instead of wasting all this effort.

Do you still think Palmar is suspicious?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 14:41 GMT
#1161
suki I don't mean to be calling you bad or ignoring you so if you feel that way please stop.

I already indicated in the thread earlier that I thought you were a competent player for both alignments.

Given you actually try you're ok in my book whether you're town or mafia, so let's just play le game.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 14:42 GMT
#1163
Also if I think someone is scum I'll pressure them a fuckton to either try to confirm or deny my read somehow. So you'll just have to get used to that.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 14:48 GMT
#1169
Isn't rayn's vote on me? Did I miss it going back to suki?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 14:51 GMT
#1172
rayn doesn't have much like with #s
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 14:51 GMT
#1173
luck either :/
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 14:51 GMT
#1175
you got it :>
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 14:52 GMT
#1176
On February 21 2014 23:48 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:43 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:38 Palmar wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:31 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:40 marvellosity wrote:
ok, just carrying on looking through Smurf's filter. The biggest problem I have at the end of it is that after all his catchup posts he actually has no conclusions about anything, at all.

I have no real idea what Smurf thinks about anything.

That's because I didn't really have any scumreads at the end. Strongest suspicion was on Suki. Currently it's on Toad. Too many scummy things, something that happened in Shadow as well yet everyone decided to not lynch him for it. The contradiction and his focus on defending himself, calling you a liar but not scum, all counts in for it.

##Unvote
##Vote Toadesstern


[image loading]

I thought suki and Toad were suspicious, but I didn't have a strong inclination at the time which was why my vote was on myself. Is that so strange?


can you believe this guy?

yeah it's a bit dodge. oh well.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 14:59 GMT
#1178
what isn't? A massive catchup followed by no-one he wanted to vote for except he apparently did have suspicions.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 15:00 GMT
#1180
I don't really care why you did the headexplode thing though
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 15:04 GMT
#1184
On February 22 2014 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote smurfdude
I actually look better than I have in recent games so I have no idea why he thinks im worse. He clearly has played with me before and therefore is intentionally misrepresenting my play in order to twist it to call me scum

Wasn't it you who told me you look better as mafia on day 1?

Woopsie!
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 15:06 GMT
#1185
yeah no-one likes Oats suki :d

might be nice if he explained that Palmar switcheroo though
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 15:07 GMT
#1186
On February 22 2014 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote smurfdude
I actually look better than I have in recent games so I have no idea why he thinks im worse. He clearly has played with me before and therefore is intentionally misrepresenting my play in order to twist it to call me scum

On February 21 2014 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 01:19 Palmar wrote:
On February 21 2014 01:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 21 2014 01:14 Palmar wrote:
I don't like you.

I'm mad at you for last game cause you're lazy and boring.

its not my fault you dont check meta >.>


I shouldn't need to. People should play to win, not play to their shitty meta.

no, you check the meta to see that I look like town early and look like scum late as scum but I look like scum all game as town.
..

Uh oh...........
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 15:08 GMT
#1188
TOO SLOW
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 15:09 GMT
#1190
Anyway, in short, Oats attacked Palmar earlier for not checking Oats' meta and seeing that Oats plays scummier as town

Now Oats says he looks better and so smurf is mafia for trying to lynch him, when surely if Oats looks better he's more likely to be mafia, according to his own self-description of meta
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 15:13 GMT
#1196
On February 22 2014 00:12 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 00:09 marvellosity wrote:
Anyway, in short, Oats attacked Palmar earlier for not checking Oats' meta and seeing that Oats plays scummier as town

Now Oats says he looks better and so smurf is mafia for trying to lynch him, when surely if Oats looks better he's more likely to be mafia, according to his own self-description of meta

If Oats actually looks scummier as town then I'd find it more likely he's town here. However, the fact that he brought up this meta himself and then proceeds to call my read bad when he has said he's basically playing to his scum meta is pretty damning.

I want him to come back and defend himself/shout at me. Will be v disappointed if that's his one post -> afk
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 15:27 GMT
#1205
No, not really.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 15:30 GMT
#1209
On February 22 2014 00:23 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 00:11 VIVAX420 wrote:
I will quit mafia forever if toad is town

I'm holding you to that.

Now I want Toad to flip town
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 15:42 GMT
#1212
you're right, I don't. I want to believe that I could believe that though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 16:24 GMT
#1223
On February 22 2014 01:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont get really how me looking better than recent games = me looking town.

what does better mean otherwise?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 16:25 GMT
#1225
PYP: LoL
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 16:26 GMT
#1226
On February 22 2014 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote smurfdude
I actually look better than I have in recent games so I have no idea why he thinks im worse. He clearly has played with me before and therefore is intentionally misrepresenting my play in order to twist it to call me scum

How would you say you look better than recent games?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 16:31 GMT
#1229
suki, way too much of your play is dedicated to asking people why they find you scummy :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 16:32 GMT
#1230
he is not LoneMeow.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 16:36 GMT
#1231
Could you just list all the games you've played for me suki? You don't need to provide links or anything.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 16:45 GMT
#1238
Thanks. Which one(s) was mafia? (should have asked that the first time).
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 16:54 GMT
#1244
I can definitely see reasons for suki to be town in the Normal MM filter
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 16:55 GMT
#1245
wait, you were scum in that game?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 16:55 GMT
#1246
you look townie T.T
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 21 2014 16:56 GMT
#1249
ha, fuck you Oats.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 16:59 GMT
#1252
meh, suki is probably town if meta is anything to go by.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 17:04 GMT
#1254
Filter length. The amount of short posts she makes as town compared to mafia. Emotion (total lack of it in the mafia games).

Something I noticed earlier when I was looking at her filter in this game is that she asks so many times of people "who is scum and why" or similar questions and they always feel like empty questions to me. But she does it a bunch in that Normal Filter as town too, and basically not at all as mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 21 2014 17:07 GMT
#1257
On February 22 2014 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
huh yeah her LI filter is like super directed and she always looks certain. this game not so much. Mannn why you gotta be like this suki. I dont think filter length is all that relevant considering newbie games generally get less posts overall anyway.

Agreed, but still her filter is as long in this game and it's Day 1 as it was after the entire game in that mafia game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 17:08 GMT
#1258
I dunno. It's not conclusive. But it points that way to me at least.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 17:10 GMT
#1260
On February 22 2014 02:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah i guess. Man clearly scum dont attack oats anymore. Hueristic gone

you always said that mafia don't attack you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 17:14 GMT
#1263
Oats there's no hope for you if you literally can't remember the thing you repeated for months, lol
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 17:15 GMT
#1264
On February 22 2014 02:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
What do you think of smurf being so super sure that palmar is town?
Show nested quote +
Accusing Palmar for instance is something I wouldn't expect you to do as scum, and your thought process aligned with plprhz on whom I have a strong townread, which is another point in your favour, so right now I'm leaning town.


Like if palmar is scum then this point is totally moot but smurf never mentions palmar at all which is interesting considering his read is so strong.

I don't think that necessarily implies a strong townread, it's more the implication of attacking a strong/influential player in general. I mean yes it implies a townread, but not a Palmar-totes-town, more a Palmar-totes-influential type way
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 17:18 GMT
#1266
yes obviously. but Smurf backed off Palmar after the start, so the natural default for him would be to assume he's town for now.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 17:19 GMT
#1267
Like if Smurf had been going around recently being suspicious of Palmar you'd have a point, but he hasn't
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 17:25 GMT
#1270
He said he took my word for how Palmar behaved and hasn't pursued Palmar since. That seems relatively normal. I have nothing else to say about this really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 21 2014 17:30 GMT
#1272
On February 20 2014 23:08 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Catching up, replying as I'm reading through the pages. 13-15:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 10:18 marvellosity wrote:
The point of that being that Palmar will talk about things like you've been constantly attacking him for talking about things. And it doesn't mean very much. That's just how he talks about stuff.

I'll have to take your word on it. I find it unlikely you'd lie about this regardless of your alignment.


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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 17:32 GMT
#1274
The curious thing about Smurf is that he seems to have some familiarity with your play and yet no familiarity with Palmar's.

hmmmm.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 17:33 GMT
#1275
On February 22 2014 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
wait wait what the fuck is this
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 07:39 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Pg 19-21
On February 20 2014 16:45 sidesprang wrote:
##Vote Balla24

wut.
On February 20 2014 17:36 Palmar wrote:
On February 20 2014 11:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 11:33 prplhz wrote:
I still think that raynpelikoneet's plan is completely useless and no townie has any reason to come up with or push it.

I also agree with marvellosity that it doesn't make sense that scum would hard push a silly slightly scummy plan in thread like this.

Also this is why prplhz is mafia. It's an obvious contradiction that makes no sense.

##unvote
##Vote: prplhz


I don't see the contradiction. There is no reason for any townie to do various strange things, yet they do it all the time and we even clear the for it. (it: this is so dumb he has to be town).

I like that Palmar sees the same thing I do in this. Liking Palmar in general since the start as he's making sense and doesn't appear to be pushing a scum agenda.

Since the start? Thats clearly not true.

ok I saw the post where he gave up the scumread. It seems like it happened way too easily

I read "since the start" there to mean "after the original stuff between us happened" as opposed to "from the very beginning".
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 17:36 GMT
#1278
it's quite obviously intended that way whether you read it that way or not. that just means you're interpreting it wrong, that's not even anything to do with alignment.
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February 21 2014 17:37 GMT
#1279
like I 100% guarantee whether he is town or mafia, that is what he meant.
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February 21 2014 17:38 GMT
#1280
to answer your question: neither in particular
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February 21 2014 17:39 GMT
#1283
yeah he looks quite town.

I am pretty curious about this Smurf meta thing now.
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February 21 2014 17:43 GMT
#1286
have you realised I'm obviously town yet?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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February 21 2014 17:57 GMT
#1293
I'm still under questionable?
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February 21 2014 17:58 GMT
#1295
you just got your townread retracted
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February 21 2014 18:00 GMT
#1296
btw you said "probably" town for suki, so it's not like your townreads are 100% either. The fact that you're not reading me as blatantly town by now is quite worrying.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 18:34 GMT
#1328
Oats can't you fucking read?

Koshi: meh, ok
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 18:37 GMT
#1331
On February 22 2014 03:26 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote smurfdude


Please vote properly, I'm not going to start guessing who you mean.

this is like 2 posts above where you ask him why he hasn't counted your vote. Christ.
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February 21 2014 18:38 GMT
#1332
I retract my "meh, ok" to Koshi because I completely misread. If anyone reads that, it's irrelevant.

:/
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February 21 2014 20:49 GMT
#1399
rayn what is my alignment?
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February 21 2014 20:53 GMT
#1403
I'm left with 2 options, rayn, neither of which I'm that fond of.

1) you are mafia
2) you are a complete fucking retard.

which is it?
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 20:56 GMT
#1405
Toad basically hasn't posted anything since you were last convinced he was mafia and I had to drag you off him.

You are doing the identical thing you did in BttB.
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February 21 2014 20:57 GMT
#1407
Which, for the uninitiated, was throw a massive bitchfit and then hard-defend mafia till the end of the cycle as a result of the bitchfit.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 20:59 GMT
#1410
The thing is, rayn, you really really should be mafia for your ridiculous attitude towards me but I think it's more likely you're just broken for some reason.
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February 21 2014 21:00 GMT
#1411
town Balla
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February 21 2014 21:05 GMT
#1414
Basically town thought this dude called Rean was mafia at some stage. And then something happened and rayn lost the plot. And then rayn hard-defended Rean for the rest of the cycle and Rean ended up being mafia.

Here rayn literally attacked Toad for 50 posts. Toad does nothing to redeem himself. rayn is convinced he's mafia.

Then a flip switches and he suddenly thinks I am mafia and suddenly Toad is certain to flip town. It's just so fucking dumb.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 21:28 GMT
#1423
no, he's just flipped a switch.
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February 21 2014 21:29 GMT
#1424
it's boring when my lynch target doesn't fight a little.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 21:41 GMT
#1433
If you stopped being stupid I'd stop calling you stupid

it's a simple equation
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 21:42 GMT
#1435
On February 22 2014 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There are two people who can easily lynch Toad. Me and marv. Let's says we are town and Toad is mafia. He attacks me, last time he attacked me for stupid shit i got him lynched regardless of his cop claim. Does his argument against marv look like he is just arguing with him for the sake of arguing? Well to me it does not. To me it looks like he genuinely believes marv is lying or misrepresenting him or whatever.

Game starts, Toad's scumplan:
"Let's attack people who are most likely gonna lynch me for it!"

Yes, makes sense!

The problem is, Toad has never expanded on any of this.

"I need to go back and check the filter" -----> nothing

"Balla is still my strongest scumread" -----> nothing

*shrug*
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 21:43 GMT
#1438
Toad's flip is totally irrelevant to you being dumb
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February 21 2014 21:46 GMT
#1443
On February 22 2014 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There are two people who can easily lynch Toad. Me and marv. Let's says we are town and Toad is mafia. He attacks me, last time he attacked me for stupid shit i got him lynched regardless of his cop claim. Does his argument against marv look like he is just arguing with him for the sake of arguing? Well to me it does not. To me it looks like he genuinely believes marv is lying or misrepresenting him or whatever.

Game starts, Toad's scumplan:
"Let's attack people who are most likely gonna lynch me for it!"

Yes, makes sense!

Oh and by the way, the whole point of the case on Toad is that he attackd you but didn't really attack you and tried to push it off as joking while also not joking.

The only reason it turned into a thing is because I picked up on it and pushed it, otherwise it would probably have just drifted out into nothingness, you would have answered Toad, toad would have gone done something else.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 21:46 GMT
#1447
Smurf you've not been entertaining
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February 21 2014 21:47 GMT
#1449
On February 22 2014 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 06:43 marvellosity wrote:
Toad's flip is totally irrelevant to you being dumb

No it's not. All this has to do with is Toad's and suki's alignments and if i am right and you are not then you are the one who is being dumb because suddenly my questions are totally relevant.

na i was specifically referring to your attitude towards me. i have responded a couple of times about toad in the last page, maybe you'd like to talk to me about what i said
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 21:47 GMT
#1450
On February 22 2014 06:47 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
Smurf you've not been entertaining

Will posting random gifs help make me entertaining?
[image loading]

it's definitely a start
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February 21 2014 21:49 GMT
#1453
you're the dude on the right Palmar. Sexy.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 21:50 GMT
#1454
as an aside, Toad does have history of attacking me when he is scum.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 21:51 GMT
#1456
It's how you wooed the special lady, isn't it?
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 22:16 GMT
#1460
On February 22 2014 07:15 Palmar wrote:
Toad isn't even bothering. wow.

yeah, if he is actually town that's 100% lame.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 23:26 GMT
#1465
there's nothing to say right now.

rayn's refusal to engage with me about toad is pretty retarded, but i guess that's to be expected.
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February 21 2014 23:55 GMT
#1468
oh hmm. You're a shenannie person. Interesting.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 23:58 GMT
#1474
I'd have expected toad to make some big grandstanding post right about now if he was town, so fingers crossed.
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marvellosity
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February 21 2014 23:59 GMT
#1475
On February 22 2014 08:57 prplhz wrote:
what's a shenannie person?

someone who is accustomed to engaging in shenannies. for example i would not describe you that way. There was a period of the shenannie where it occurred a lot and it stuck around
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 00:00 GMT
#1476
POTS - Period of the shenannie
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 00:00 GMT
#1482
suck my dick rayn. literally get on the floor and suck my dick.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 00:01 GMT
#1485
also yay!
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February 22 2014 00:50 GMT
#1536
On February 22 2014 09:29 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 09:26 Balla24 wrote:
sad that i literally cant come up with any conclusions from that... people need better reasoningzzz... Palmar is likely town.

marv pretty cool guy and he was 95% sure on Toads?

It's almost just as good as somebody posting babyseals in the thread. You just vote the guy. That as my reason to vote and it was somewhat obvious.

Also. I said multiple times that Toad didn't attack anybody else than rayn/marv and that I found that scummy later.


Imo we can cross out some people that shouldn't be lynched and we got some town reads whos reads we can trust.

Like Palmar pretty townie so we can trust plphz guy to be town.

Stuff like that.

Koshi understands how to play mafia. This guy will go far.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 00:53 GMT
#1538
I agree that suki looks not so hot. Only kinda because of the scumslip, but mainly because of the anger it contained rather than the wording.

kush looks awful as well. Remember how I picked him up middle of the day. He was kinda suspicious of Toad at the start.

1.Then "Toad is town, I don't get marv's case at all"

2.Then "I will quit mafia if Toad flips town"

Can anyone tell me how kush got from 1 to 2?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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February 22 2014 00:59 GMT
#1547
Did you roll mafia recently?
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February 22 2014 01:01 GMT
#1551
that's a good guess
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February 22 2014 01:02 GMT
#1555
There are one or two things that make me think kush is town. So I am holding my horses.

"Neigh" go the horses.
"Just wait a minute" says marv.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 01:03 GMT
#1556
On February 22 2014 10:02 Alakaslam wrote:
70+ pages hijole

Folks I will be far more productive if folks just catch me up by talking as if you are the only person who remembers wtf happened earlier and I work off the current stuff. That way I will catch up by osmosis and still bring a fresh read to the table (though it will be a crap read... But I will work on my play)

What page is the phase post on and what phase is it now?

If no one is online to reply in 10 I will just go look, my connection is faster than that...

Just started N1, flip was on page 74
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 01:11 GMT
#1568
On February 22 2014 09:31 suki wrote:
There is someone else who thought toad was going to flip town.

Early game he consistently had toad on his list

Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 11:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 21 2014 11:29 prplhz wrote:
reading your rather meager filter you're not even pushing for anything else, you're just crapping on us wanting an explanation from palmar

yes that is correct. How does that make me scum?
Im pushing the smurf/suki/toad bandwagon.


... then he randomly starts saying toad is town. This is before rayn came back and declared toad was town.

Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 01:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also toad is flipping town, kush pls hand in your mafia card at the door on your way out.

Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 01:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so since people dont like me jumping around for whatever reason, Im gonna clarify my reads.

I think smurf is the scummiest. Followed by suki then balla then kush then the rest are townie maybe I guess toad is like 5th most likely to flip scum

Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 01:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 22 2014 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
On February 22 2014 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote smurfdude
I actually look better than I have in recent games so I have no idea why he thinks im worse. He clearly has played with me before and therefore is intentionally misrepresenting my play in order to twist it to call me scum

How would you say you look better than recent games?

I think that I look better than survivor series pretty much just because I posted more and about more things than there. But because that game had so many other lurkers i kinda didnt get into any pressure unlike this game. Apparently people still dont think im town which totally wouldnt happen if im scum. At least I think so. Like as scum I totally bus/murder Toad 100% of the time and look really good doing so.

Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol palmar, is this the start of personality 2 2.0 if toad flips town which he is totally going to.

Where marv is totally wrong and game degenerates into a shitfight between 2 townies?

##vote smurfdude


I think it's not very likely that this is a scum plan to save toad. He gains nothing when toad flips and nobody was defending toad at that point. He could easily have kept suspicious of toad and still pushed whoever he felt like.

Perhaps, but Oats happily said mafia were town when he was mafia in PYP:LoL. Even mafia who were flipping. Ref: Meapak_Ziph at some point.
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February 22 2014 01:12 GMT
#1569
actually i think this makes oats look really suspicious.
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February 22 2014 01:14 GMT
#1572
Basically vigi/cop need to be on Oats/Slam
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 01:17 GMT
#1576
Try your hardest this phase please Slam, that would be quite awesome.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 01:24 GMT
#1581
both are good to look at. i don't even mind who you look at as long as you explain your thought process when you look at them. even if your conclusion isn't firm it's the thought process that's important <3
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 01:26 GMT
#1584
yeah reading Toad is useless. don't bother.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 01:27 GMT
#1585
might enjoy myself some wifom with the toad-balla stuff though :d
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 11:23 GMT
#1653
On February 22 2014 11:39 Koshi wrote:
Fucking LM is.cohost. like how.the fuck did I think he was the puppy........ so dumb. I sleep now.

You mean aside from the fact his posting couldn't possibly be from LM besides?
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 11:31 GMT
#1654
No vigis on smurf, we can lynch smurf with some confidence if it came to that.

Still vig/cop on Oats/Slam in that order would be my preference.

We could never lynch Oats with confidence.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 11:32 GMT
#1655
On February 22 2014 18:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Palmar do you have a list of scumreads?

Why are you asking this?
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 11:36 GMT
#1656
On February 22 2014 16:08 Balla24 wrote:
nope, being lazy tonight :D :D... im going to re-read and post stuff tomorrow.

I expect this to be out in a timely fashion this phase because I wish to judge you for it

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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 11:41 GMT
#1657
Balla, how confident are you that suki is town? She has some unfortunate things in her filter, such as her case on Koshi + below it where it outlines how Toad is awful and has no redeeming features and might possibly vote for him later if gosh darnit, she didn't just have this swell case on Koshi. That sort of thing.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 12:05 GMT
#1659
On February 22 2014 21:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
No vigis on smurf, we can lynch smurf with some confidence if it came to that.

Still vig/cop on Oats/Slam in that order would be my preference.

We could never lynch Oats with confidence.

I really dont get why Im still a vig target.

I asked palmar because I want to know.

Why do you want to know? What does it gain you?

I explained why you're a vig target.

If you're town, btw, you would improve your game by not assuming someone I'm certain is scum is going to "definitely flip town", because that doesn't really happen.

You had irrational certainty that Toad was going to flip town and it comes across as quite artificial.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 12:11 GMT
#1661
On February 22 2014 21:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
It gains me knowledge of what to push so that Palmar will sheep me tomorrow.
Show nested quote +
You had irrational certainty that Toad was going to flip town and it comes across as quite artificial.

good job marv, you figured it out.

Neither of these are real answers. Well done you.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 12:22 GMT
#1663
that's what makes you a good vigi target. you're either lying and are mafia, or you're telling the truth and admitting to trolling the game so you can possibly 1-up me later for no good reasons. Neither of these things make me want to keep you alive :/
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 12:40 GMT
#1666
and now you know why I went nooooooooooooooo when you replaced in.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 12:46 GMT
#1668
why do you think you're obviously town?
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February 22 2014 13:04 GMT
#1673
On February 22 2014 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 21:40 marvellosity wrote:
and now you know why I went nooooooooooooooo when you replaced in.

funkiller.

Have fun without lying about people's alignments just to troll. It's fucking awful and you should feel fucking awful that you think that's acceptable as a way to play mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:05 GMT
#1674
On February 22 2014 22:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still don't know why prplhz is town.

at the very least it seems unlikely that toad would do a terrible +1 on another mafia player's weak original point
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:07 GMT
#1675
I guess it's possible Oats is just an ass. Blues just need to sort out all the lurkers/non-contributors/trollers. I guess I won't try to direct specifically.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:08 GMT
#1678
fuck off Oats.
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February 22 2014 13:09 GMT
#1680
because saying "calm down" has made someone calm down in approximately 0 cases in the history of humanity

thx prplhz
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:10 GMT
#1682
The fact that you don't understand that lying about what you think of someone's alignment like that is something you shouldn't do in mafia basically means you are never, ever going to become anything more than a terrible player, Oats, and that's really really sad.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:12 GMT
#1684
On February 22 2014 22:12 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 21:46 marvellosity wrote:
why do you think you're obviously town?

Like if someone can explain to me how spending 4 hours catching up and analyzing as I go along then ending up with no suspects when the scum bandwagon which is a godfather is leading makes any sense as scum I'm all ears.
If you say WIFOM I will PM the host, get a vig role and shoot you.

wifom
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February 22 2014 13:13 GMT
#1687
you're probably right though. your answers have been useful
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:13 GMT
#1688
why does Balla have to be town rayn?
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:14 GMT
#1691
On February 22 2014 22:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
why so srs marv? Like sure I couldve gone, "sheep marv bla bla" and that makes me a 'good' player?
Thats not right.

yes, it is actually. A competent player knows when to sheep someone better than them rather than going "this guy is definitely gonna flip town" just to troll. That's exactly right in fact.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:15 GMT
#1694
ok. Both rayn + puppy's answers make sense. I can roll with that. Balla town.
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February 22 2014 13:16 GMT
#1696
your point about rayn wanting to avoid taking a stand was exceptionally weak and i voted toad for +1ing it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:21 GMT
#1704
On February 22 2014 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 22:14 marvellosity wrote:
On February 22 2014 22:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
why so srs marv? Like sure I couldve gone, "sheep marv bla bla" and that makes me a 'good' player?
Thats not right.

yes, it is actually. A competent player knows when to sheep someone better than them rather than going "this guy is definitely gonna flip town" just to troll. That's exactly right in fact.

wow k good for you marv.

Without being snippy for a moment. Who was the player, who when I made my original points on Toad, went "yeah that's good, toad is mafia"? Palmar. Palmar understood a good point made by someone else and rolled with it, because he is good.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:22 GMT
#1706
I guess I'll go with Smurf town.

And maybe Oats town although the idea is disgusting so I won't commit to that.

so then maybe suki and one of kush/slam. dunno. I guess blues into this group? Into Oats too couldn't hurt probably
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:24 GMT
#1710
On February 22 2014 22:22 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
your point about rayn wanting to avoid taking a stand was exceptionally weak and i voted toad for +1ing it.


also toad pointed it out

Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that.


before i did

Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:13 prplhz wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's called "take a fucking stance or vote for yourself".

Yea that's what I thought, you are actively trying not to take a stand. I don't know who you voted for before but he was not in any danger of getting lynched so there's no reason to change your vote at all, only reason is to say "hey everybody i'm harmless and i don't have an opinion on lynch".

And I think this is scummy.

##Vote raynpelikoneet


so if anything i was +1ing him

saying someone shouldn't care about wanting to pseudo-unvote isn't the same as saying about avoiding taking a stand. this is all very helpful though prplhz, thank you x
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:26 GMT
#1712
On February 22 2014 22:25 prplhz wrote:
oh shove off you're just in a foul mood

fancy commenting on people's alignments rather than telling people to calm down and correcting things? :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 22 2014 13:32 GMT
#1719
On February 22 2014 22:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
and i know who smurf is, its WAVEOFSHADOWS

that's a decent guess
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 14:45 GMT
#1764
that smurf case was awful
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February 22 2014 14:49 GMT
#1768
On February 22 2014 23:48 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 23:45 marvellosity wrote:
that smurf case was awful


100% legit case. I'll give you mafia lessons for 30$ hour so you can be good like me one day.

why would I pay to get worse? jeez.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 15:21 GMT
#1782
I told you it isn't Prome 100%.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 22 2014 15:22 GMT
#1786
who cares? 100%. See that number? No margin.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 22 2014 15:23 GMT
#1787
it could be thrawn
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 16:39 GMT
#1862
suki might be town for regularly playing mafia before breakfast
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 22 2014 16:42 GMT
#1865
I'm feeling a bit lazy to think because i'm hoping there's at least a little blue help tonight.

9-3 quite tough for town in general and with a gf flipping that also suggests we have useful things
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 16:50 GMT
#1867
...

because that has a higher than 0% chance of happening
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 16:52 GMT
#1869
it's so unlikely to happen it probably has a sub-zero percent chance of happening somehow
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 19:02 GMT
#1897
oh shut up Palmar. Jeez.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 19:03 GMT
#1898
On February 23 2014 03:15 prplhz wrote:
obligatorysmurfguess: yamato

also marv might bus sandro because sandro will sometimes literally afk out of scum games while he will not hard bus toad unless he has very good reason for it and he didn't this game

suki was talking about Palmar, not me, she just used Shadow as a handy bussing example
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 19:11 GMT
#1901
Do you think it's reasonable for suki to be suspicious of you, balla?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 22 2014 19:50 GMT
#1907
On February 23 2014 04:31 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 04:11 marvellosity wrote:
Do you think it's reasonable for suki to be suspicious of you, balla?


Nope. 'tis what I said, her thought process on me this night has been really odd. She usually has much more respect for my cases and what i'm saying. I don't really follow why she keeps going from

"Man ballas scum game is so different from this"

to

"Actually balla has done a lot of scummy things this game"

So I think her read is unreasonable. Like I said though, for me, that kind of swinging is indicative of town suki.

....

this post makes zero sense.
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marvellosity
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February 22 2014 21:12 GMT
#1913
I think you use the word unreasonable differently from everyone else dear
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 00:32 GMT
#2021
someone shot suki? for realsies?
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 00:34 GMT
#2024
told you your smurf case was awful palmar
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 00:35 GMT
#2025
ugh, looks like I missed some.... er... interesting developments
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 00:37 GMT
#2026
lol i can't believe someone shot suki still

who tried to be a hero?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 23 2014 00:38 GMT
#2027
Balla could actually be mafia
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 00:40 GMT
#2029
i was just assuming Smurf was the mafiahit

unless mafia had found a suki crumb or something
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 23 2014 00:40 GMT
#2031
also marvmeta bestmeta
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 00:43 GMT
#2032
if anyone wonders why I think Balla could be mafia, think Slam+suki+Palmar's signature
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 00:47 GMT
#2035
and maybe you're mysteriously right about Slam too?

if I could confirm rayn as town to you, who would be your best guess for the 2 mafia?
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 00:53 GMT
#2038
So if we assume rayn is fake-claiming for reactions, then where does that leave you on rayn?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 23 2014 00:56 GMT
#2041
The fact that rayn has done near-identical things as town but doesn't as mafia doesn't suggest something?
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 00:58 GMT
#2046
I explained a specific scenario where he did the same thing earlier in the game, you can't have missed it.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 23 2014 00:59 GMT
#2047
##Unvote
##Vote: Balla24


that's where i'm at for now, i'll think about it more tomorrow. although i'll probably be in the thread a little while
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:00 GMT
#2050
shut up Oats, you are never ever funny.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:04 GMT
#2056
I followed the entire game, I know how rayn plays better than anyone who ever lived.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:05 GMT
#2058
I remember everything.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:05 GMT
#2060
Just ask Koshi, I pulled up a quote from 9 months ago in the last game because I remembered someone made it in May last year.
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:06 GMT
#2062
##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax420
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:11 GMT
#2064
i'm still seething at whoever shot suki

ugh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:13 GMT
#2066
small mercies <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:16 GMT
#2069
if Balla wasn't so active... there's good reasons for him to be mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:17 GMT
#2072
Exhibit 1: Balla never mentions the arguments that Palmar and I push on Toad, and only asks other people about Toad's alignment without commenting himself, until he made his megapost with Toad as mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:26 GMT
#2073
On February 21 2014 02:22 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 02:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:10 Balla24 wrote:
The way I see it is these starting votes dont matter at all and by the time we actually start playing the game it still won't matter. Koshi lets start something gogo~
On February 20 2014 09:25 Balla24 wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:22 suki wrote:
Balla is completely in policy talk mode and hasn't even tried to pressure anyone or start anything even though he is clearly here. He also is not playing light hearted like in the previous game where we bulldozed scum.


So is everybody else, only person that is trying to start stuff is prplhz. I don't see anything else that is pressurable like I have in the past 2 games.


That kind of behavior is incredibly hypocritical but whatever, could be anything, right? I don't see that kind of thing happening in his town game. He just does stuff himself and no "hey let's maybe do some shit, right? right?"

Balla24 needs lynching
##vote Balla24


The rest of the case is meta and I can see what you're seeing but you're also only looking at the first couple posts in the game. So if you play like that fine~

However here what I quoted you're ignoring context. I was asking Koshi to do something because he was saying "hey balla is maybe scum" and I wanted him to post his reasoning so we could get into a shit show and people can start the game based on that... but it turns out he didn't.

I was doing the same thing when Suki was withholding saying why I was scum. I wanted them to post it to start something because they kept hinting that they were going to but not doing it. Prplhz WAS the only one starting anything so I don't see what's red about that...

On February 21 2014 02:59 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 02:32 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Toad i am going to tell you one thing:
That being said, from what I've seen so far it looks like Balla is a somewhat atypical kind of player. He's someone who plays calm and tries to avoid confrontation when rolling town while playing a lot more in your face when rolling mafia.

The opposite.... really, the opposite.

how about you show me about that while I'm out, I'll come back, read up on it and give you my opionion about your opinion. Because funnily enough even Balla said he sees what I'm seeing when talking about his early posts in games.


Just so you know I'm specifically referencing how you might think my opening is similar to how I opened in those scum games, it could for sure be seen as similar somewhat. That's all... I don't want to be the guy who talks about his own meta so i'll leave it at that unless people want me to go at it.

On February 21 2014 08:32 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 08:18 Palmar wrote:
On February 21 2014 07:25 Balla24 wrote:
On February 21 2014 07:22 Palmar wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Toad


This wagon is terrible, I don't even know what idiot started it.


Can you answer suki here about why you did vote kush in the first place?

On February 21 2014 06:05 suki wrote:

On February 21 2014 03:15 Palmar wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Vivax420


@Palmar why did you vote kush right after marv said kush looks scummy? Earlier in the game you thought kush looked town and provided a lot of quotes:

On February 20 2014 21:59 Palmar wrote:
On February 20 2014 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar why do you think kush is town?


I like some points he's made.

On February 20 2014 09:13 VIVAX420 wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that.


wait so you are implying that scum is going to be afraid of the default votes enough to come up with a plan like that?


On February 20 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
toad you are backtracking so hard. it's not serious, yet you gave shitty but serious reasons for it.


On February 20 2014 12:06 VIVAX420 wrote:
why vote prpl? just because of the contradiction in that post you quoted? it wasn't so much a contradiction as it was a realization that marv had a good point.

On February 20 2014 12:09 VIVAX420 wrote:
rayn nvm that garbage you are pushing. I think you are misunderstanding the intentions behind that post. It's like "hmmm this was my argument, but then again marv has a good point"
prpl seems really pro town so far.
~~
What do you think of toad?




What changed?



nah


I don't see any possible reason for you to withhold that reasoning. Regardless, if you think suki and I are scummy. Then why are you voting toad? What do you think of toad's case on me beyond "I don't believe it", why don't you believe it etc etc...

What about suki's case on me? and has your opinion of suki changed since you sheeped on rayn? She's posted plenty since then.

On February 21 2014 11:18 Balla24 wrote:
I really don't understand why he didn't put his vote on me instead of Toad. His vote on toad was so useless then considering toad wasnt even there anymore and toad made a case on ME, when he thinks im scummy. He didn't even re-evaluate toad after that. Then he refuses to answer my questions.


into calling Toad mafia. No mention of what I brought up and pushed at Toad consistently. No interactions with Toad beyond responding twice to the case Toad made on him.
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:28 GMT
#2074
Especially the 3rd quote there feels all kinda wrong.
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:30 GMT
#2076
On February 22 2014 04:32 Balla24 wrote:
@Palmar, how come you switched off kush because "scummy people are voting" for him yet you aren't switching off toad?

yuck
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:30 GMT
#2077
##Unvote
##Vote: Balla24
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:34 GMT
#2078
On February 21 2014 11:18 Balla24 wrote:
I really don't understand why he didn't put his vote on me instead of Toad. His vote on toad was so useless then considering toad wasnt even there anymore and toad made a case on ME, when he thinks im scummy. He didn't even re-evaluate toad after that. Then he refuses to answer my questions.

And yet Balla voted the totally absent sidesprang?
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:36 GMT
#2080
I'll check more tomorrow. For now, bed.
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:41 GMT
#2083
It's very difficult for me to believe that the most influential player in the game (you may not know me, but you can tell by how people interact with me) makes a case on someone and you totally fail to mention it in any capacity. Especially when you commented so much on so much else.
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 01:50 GMT
#2085
On February 22 2014 07:21 LoneMeow wrote:
Current suspicions:
Oatsmaster (1): Koshi, prplhz, VIVAX420
Toadesstern (7): Palmar, VIVAX420, marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, Palmar, Koshi, prplhz, suki, CuteFluffyPuppy, Balla24, Balla24
Balla24 (3): suki, sidesprang, Toadesstern, suki, Oatsmaster
suki (1): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet
Toadesstern is now set to be lynched!
Next deadline:
Deadline date: Saturday, Feb 22 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

If Balla is town no mafia ended up with a vote on Toad according to current reads and flips
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 11:58 GMT
#2153
On February 23 2014 18:11 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 10:41 marvellosity wrote:
It's very difficult for me to believe that the most influential player in the game (you may not know me, but you can tell by how people interact with me) makes a case on someone and you totally fail to mention it in any capacity. Especially when you commented so much on so much else.


so marv is voting for balla for not mentioning some case he wrote. marv thinks he is a mafia god now for lynching toad.

One day you'll learn basic reading comprehension

I say that, but you probably won't.
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 12:07 GMT
#2154
On February 22 2014 07:21 LoneMeow wrote:
Current suspicions:
Oatsmaster (1): Koshi, prplhz, VIVAX420
Toadesstern (7): Palmar, VIVAX420, marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, Palmar, Koshi, prplhz, suki, CuteFluffyPuppy, Balla24, Balla24
Balla24 (3): suki, sidesprang, Toadesstern, suki, Oatsmaster
suki (1): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet
Toadesstern is now set to be lynched!
Next deadline:
Deadline date: Saturday, Feb 22 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Just bringing this up again in case anyone wants to talk about the likelihood of 0 mafia being on Toad or who it would be otherwise
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February 23 2014 12:09 GMT
#2155
rayn - you need to stop being so snippy and actually engage with Balla please. What you're doing isn't very helpful.
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 12:17 GMT
#2157
Obviously it's possible, thank you for your customary totally pointless response.
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 14:27 GMT
#2163
On February 23 2014 23:08 kushm4sta wrote:
im just trying to figure out why teh fuck people want to lynch balla?

As it stands
suki was becoming suspicious of balla and she has played several games with him
CuteFluffyPuppy found Balla's reactions to the fakeclaim thing suspicious
Balla failed at any time to address the case on Toadesstern, and I don't really buy the argument "I felt nothing either way so I didn't comment on it at all"
Is probably the most likely mafia person on Toadesstern if one exists
Kept asking Palmar why his vote was on Toadesstern (when it was obvious that the Toad case was the strongest in the thread apart from anything else)
puts obv-town marvellosity under a heading "pretty questionable" and tries to palm it off saying I'm on the townside (personal reason :D)
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 14:30 GMT
#2165
not the summary at all, as usual your comprehension is awful.

just like you said toad was definitely town. great call there too.
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 14:32 GMT
#2167
On February 23 2014 23:30 kushm4sta wrote:
summary: he didn't comment on your toad argument and he thinks you might be scum, therefore he is scum.
terrible case but i still like you as town because the terribleness comes from a place of arrogance i know you have inside you.

The fact is, it wasn't just my toad argument. It was my toad argument that I repeatedly pushed and explained.

Palmar repeatedly pushed and explained the Toad argument.

rayn repeatedly pushed Toad.

Balla never addresses any of this.
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 14:33 GMT
#2168
On February 23 2014 23:30 kushm4sta wrote:
summary: he didn't comment on your toad argument and he thinks you might be scum, therefore he is scum.
terrible case but i still like you as town because the terribleness comes from a place of arrogance i know you have inside you.

It's tempting to lynch kush for this alone. You still like me as town? Well fucking duh.
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 14:34 GMT
#2171
no, I never hardbussed any scum-mate right from the beginning of the game with a case I created myself. Moron.
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February 23 2014 14:36 GMT
#2173
lol
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February 23 2014 14:36 GMT
#2175
town got lynched
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February 23 2014 14:40 GMT
#2177
yes it does, bussing a team-mate 2 hours from deadline is not the same as creating a case on your godfather scumbuddy at the start of the game and pushing it all day.

btw if balla isn't mafia then you are, so i'd be careful with what you're arguing here
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marvellosity
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February 23 2014 16:04 GMT
#2190
On February 23 2014 23:56 Koshi wrote:
I read all the things but cant check them. But did the puppy say Balla was scum before resolution? Also it isnt fair to use both deaths against balla because one was killed by town. I also do not like the vote analysis because prplhz for instance has done shitall since Palmar has been vouching for him. The reasons to why Palmar finds him town did not repeat themsleves anymore. He is in the shadows. I mean, there is room for somebody else being scum on the toad wagon. Why was Palmar not shot? He was on Puppy, so shooting puppy makes "confirmed" town look elsewhere. Meh.

Balla big post very townie still.

rayn knows balla very well. He lynched him twice and played scum with him. That scumgame I was in the game and it does not look like this. Why is rayn so irrational? It pisses me off because he is bad. He knows balla and can make a real case if he wants. Instead we get this retarded garbage that is retarded. Even I push rayn with more reaskning than this when I am in tunnel.

Currently not near pc. 4 hours from now I will be. But will phonepost some.

what?
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February 23 2014 16:05 GMT
#2192
On February 24 2014 00:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 00:25 Palmar wrote:
read again the rayn prplhz interaction when rayn accused prplhz of contradicting himself kosher. prplhz deffo town

No. Nobody is town solely for something like that. I read prplhz yesterday and I can see him town. But like 75% and as long as he keeps doing nothing he bleeds percentages.

And the vig is you or him most likely. Imo that wiuld be nice to clear up because both of you are unlikely to be lynhed and the information helps town.

Anyway, only right lynch so far is Kush.

Why were you all "sheep marv" on day 1 and now you're all like "the only right lynch is one marv isn't pushing"?
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February 23 2014 16:07 GMT
#2194
you didn't like Wave lynch last game either. We had words about that.
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February 23 2014 16:10 GMT
#2199
No-one suggested Balla shot the people who found him suspicious, the point was that flipped confirmed townies found things about him suspicious.
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February 23 2014 16:13 GMT
#2203
another one indeed. one so far down I cannot see it.
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February 23 2014 16:14 GMT
#2204
I think I'm going to wait until rayn comes and plays the game.
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February 23 2014 16:30 GMT
#2206
On February 24 2014 01:16 Balla24 wrote:
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On February 24 2014 01:10 marvellosity wrote:
No-one suggested Balla shot the people who found him suspicious, the point was that flipped confirmed townies found things about him suspicious.

And the fact that i was saying suki was town when no one else and i was right. I can understand how that looks odd but youre not looking if i had any good reasoning for doing so. Also not looking at the fact that I have been the only person to play every single game with suki since her return to mafia in newbie li.

It's this fact I'm bearing in mind when suki was becoming more suspicious of you towards the end of N1 tbh.
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February 23 2014 16:36 GMT
#2208
suki is confirmed town and you are not, so I know 100% her feelings were legit.

Now just because they are legit don't make them right, but as you kindly pointed out she's played a tonne of games with you, so yeah.
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February 23 2014 22:52 GMT
#2249
##Unvote
##Vote: kushm4sta
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February 23 2014 22:56 GMT
#2251
Townies/Likely townies:

marv
Palmar
rayn
Koshi
prplhz

Possible townie:

Oats

Scum pool:

kush
Slam
Balla

To be honest, if kush is gonna troll and be an arse and balla is gonna try, i'm happy to lynch kush first, because there's a decent chance he'll be mafia.
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February 23 2014 22:57 GMT
#2252
Slam is probably technically the better lynch because I think Balla/kush are more likely to be either/or and Slam is more likely to be the common denominator.
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February 23 2014 23:02 GMT
#2253
On February 24 2014 06:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is being right for very wrong reasons and he makes cases that are not about why someone is mafia, and when he's been questioned about them instead of answering he makes new cases.

Well, when you find time show me these very wrong reasons. I can understand that his townread on suki seemed strange but I was arguing with the same guy in the obs QT in shadowed. His big post with scum Toad and Kush seemed maybe coming out of the blue but his case on Alakaslam in shadowed was also pretty new when he posted it and he was right.

Isn't it interesting he puts suki and prplhz as town in his post and marv/rayn as null? If he is scum he puts the storng people as null and possible mislynches as town. And his scumbuddies as scum?

That's very brave.

What actually bugs me is not the fact that he put me as questionable then (although that bugs me) - it's that later on when I'd posted a TON more (and decent posting) he still wasn't willing to call me town. That's at the very least terrible, weak play if balla is town (sorry balla if you're town, but it just is)

Further if Balla is mafia then Slam is his likely partner, not kush. Because what Balla did is have his cases on kush and Toad but he had his vote on kush and not Toad. This is a classic mafia play, having 2 scum suspects and having your vote on the townie and looking good later for having scum as scum.

Balla only put his vote on Toadesstern later when the lynch was a formality.

I'm willing to vote kush though, if kush flips town then Balla is an autolynch. Or we can lynch Slam who probably has the highest individual chance of flipping mafia. I don't care all that much honestly.
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February 24 2014 09:52 GMT
#2272
On February 24 2014 18:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 10:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Serious?

After what Kush did you want to lynch me, and also want to lynch me over Balla?

...

Hijole, the curse

Be gone get lynched- who coined that law?

Why wouldn't we lynch you over Balla?

That's a Slam mafia reaction.

As town he asks to get lynched just in case so town doesn't get confused later.

Here he's bitching that other people have done worse things and goes afk again. Scummy scum Slam.
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February 24 2014 09:54 GMT
#2275
also Balla I'm not voting you atm so that was a case of tl;dr
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#2277
On February 24 2014 18:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 18:52 marvellosity wrote:
On February 24 2014 18:35 Koshi wrote:
On February 24 2014 10:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Serious?

After what Kush did you want to lynch me, and also want to lynch me over Balla?

...

Hijole, the curse

Be gone get lynched- who coined that law?

Why wouldn't we lynch you over Balla?

That's a Slam mafia reaction.

As town he asks to get lynched just in case so town doesn't get confused later.

Here he's bitching that other people have done worse things and goes afk again. Scummy scum Slam.

I agree. I found it suspicious as well. The guy needs to come back. asap.

Well, like I said yesterday *before* he posted that I thought he had the highest individual chance to flip mafia.

Then he posts that also. So yeaaaah.
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February 24 2014 09:58 GMT
#2280
i think you've not read rayn's filter.
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February 24 2014 10:01 GMT
#2282
On February 24 2014 19:00 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 00:49 kushm4sta wrote:
On February 24 2014 00:42 kushm4sta wrote:
btw i got roleblocked i forgot to tell you guys



Are we assuming this is suki?

no
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February 24 2014 10:04 GMT
#2286
it could be suki but we aint assuming it. And my vote is on kush.

Because balla wrote a lot of words i will vote kush or slam today.
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February 24 2014 10:07 GMT
#2289
But rayn also ranted at Toad forever about some point that I don't remember right now and it takes up at least a page of his filter.
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February 24 2014 10:08 GMT
#2290
Honestly I'd prefer to kill Slam but I think Koshi deserves to be sheeped to see if he's up to the job of being a herder.
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#2298
On February 24 2014 19:27 Koshi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=441091&user=Wile E. Coyote

In this game Alakaslam was pretty readable and made back to back useful posts. He was town.
I feel like this game Alakaslam makes way less useful posts but he did replace in. :/

so? he's not even trying. he came in to drop that one bitching post and just left. Terrible.
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#2299
On February 24 2014 19:11 Palmar wrote:
I would actually prefer slam based on the 1% chance my initial read on kush was right, but when I think about it that read was based on him saying smart things and making sense, and that's breaking his meta.

There's one thing for kush too. Usually when he's mafia and he's attacking me he uses bad generic reasons. When he's town he tells me my reasoning was fucking terrible therefore I'm scum (I think he did this in ## iirc) like he did in this game.

Admittedly it's not much.
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February 24 2014 10:31 GMT
#2300
On February 24 2014 19:12 Palmar wrote:
or a guilty, ofc. I'm totally not scum with prplhz guys.

:/
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#2301
On February 24 2014 16:24 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 16:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
so defensive

Oh oats I forgot you were in a decent timezone to talk to me, why are you lurking so much at night when you're not even confident i'm scum (you just voted me "before marv throws a fit")? You could be pressuring me, asking me questions etc...

On February 24 2014 16:25 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 16:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
so defensive


Also lol... you noticed that was there and read that in 2 minutes? That's pretty impressive. Anyways, unfortunately i'm going to sleep. Peace~

See why didn't the vigi hit someone like Oats or kush rather than someone who would play the game. So so sad.
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February 24 2014 10:34 GMT
#2302
Literally Oats saw Balla's post, saw the first paragraph, and commented "so defensive" without reading anything else.
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February 24 2014 10:47 GMT
#2305
I can't remember what it was that people pursuaded me Oats isn't mafia. Oats is just sheeping his vote around today with zero reasoning. It's bad.
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February 24 2014 10:51 GMT
#2310
ok. Keep the faith in Oats town. Deep breaths.
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February 24 2014 10:56 GMT
#2313
you have literally zero reasons for your votes, you're basically just voting whereever I vote. Balla "in case marv gets pissy" and kush for no given reason
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February 24 2014 10:57 GMT
#2314
but never mind.

Let's decide between kush/Slam later today then or something?
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February 24 2014 11:19 GMT
#2320
On February 24 2014 20:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
nah balla is not really in the picture anymore after I slept and thought about it.

Slept and thought about it in 4 hours? :o
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February 24 2014 12:24 GMT
#2323
that's not what i meant but the fact that you didn't understand what i meant means that it doesn't matter anyway. yea baby.
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February 24 2014 12:55 GMT
#2331
the real question is, why are you saying that the rb should make you confirmed town when you've just been playing in a game where scum faked the rb?
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February 24 2014 12:56 GMT
#2333
i thought it was your explanation for the fact that you've done nothing at all. my bad.
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February 24 2014 13:20 GMT
#2351
this is amazing

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February 24 2014 13:21 GMT
#2356
you don't have to read a thing to know that's a retarded shot
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February 24 2014 13:21 GMT
#2358
I can actually believe 3 JOAT funnily enough
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February 24 2014 13:22 GMT
#2362
seems a hosty thing to do to give towns only JOATs
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February 24 2014 13:25 GMT
#2367
On February 24 2014 22:25 Palmar wrote:
Fun fact, I initially sent in a vig shot on slam, but then he showed up and started posting so I just shot someone else instead. Wish I had just kept it, just felt like a bit of an asshole shooting him just after he replaced in.

that's the best time to shoot people though.
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February 24 2014 13:27 GMT
#2370
On February 24 2014 22:26 Palmar wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Vivax42


I don't believe this claim, I don't believe he'd not use any of his powers on n1. I don't believe scum would roleblock him, and I think suko is smarter than to not use the dt check on day 1.

Ok

1. Why would mafia claim the only power role to have just flipped
2. Why would mafia claim to not use one of their roles (DT check) when they can easily fake this
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February 24 2014 13:29 GMT
#2371
Not using the check is really something else though.

Palmar do you have a useful power left?
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February 24 2014 13:30 GMT
#2374
yeah but if you're mafia you lie to make yourself look not-bad.
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February 24 2014 13:30 GMT
#2376
On February 24 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 22:29 marvellosity wrote:
Not using the check is really something else though.

Palmar do you have a useful power left?


yes.

Can you tell me what you have left? Does it really compromise you if we know you're already 100% JOAT?
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February 24 2014 13:31 GMT
#2378
basically if both you and kush are JOAT then they can't rb both of you. So we can prove kush's claim tonight if you have a power that can help prove it
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February 24 2014 13:32 GMT
#2379
btw 3 JOATs is really plausible because that's a max 6 power usage, when 2 regular blue roles could have up to 8 power usages in total.
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February 24 2014 13:32 GMT
#2381
quiet LM, I'm busy.
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February 24 2014 13:33 GMT
#2385
well if you had watcher we can prove kush claim 100%. If you have tracker or DT check scum are also in trouble.
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February 24 2014 13:33 GMT
#2387
On February 24 2014 22:33 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 22:32 marvellosity wrote:
btw 3 JOATs is really plausible because that's a max 6 power usage, when 2 regular blue roles could have up to 8 power usages in total.

max 6?

JOAT have 2 powers to use once each. 3x2
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February 24 2014 13:34 GMT
#2389
##unvote
##Vote: Alakaslam
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February 24 2014 13:36 GMT
#2394
On February 24 2014 22:34 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 22:33 marvellosity wrote:
well if you had watcher we can prove kush claim 100%. If you have tracker or DT check scum are also in trouble.


how? if I watch his target mafia/vig will look exactly the same going for the kill.


You watch kush. kush uses vig. 2 people turn up dead and kush is confirmed. if kush is rbed you would see it.

that's an initial plan
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February 24 2014 13:36 GMT
#2396
On February 24 2014 22:35 prplhz wrote:
so yea you were right kind of

yeah that's what i meant. 2 total power uses each.
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February 24 2014 13:37 GMT
#2399
On February 24 2014 22:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 22:36 marvellosity wrote:
On February 24 2014 22:34 Palmar wrote:
On February 24 2014 22:33 marvellosity wrote:
well if you had watcher we can prove kush claim 100%. If you have tracker or DT check scum are also in trouble.


how? if I watch his target mafia/vig will look exactly the same going for the kill.


You watch kush. kush uses vig. 2 people turn up dead and kush is confirmed. if kush is rbed you would see it.

that's an initial plan


what if 1 person turns up dead?

then we think about it deeply.
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February 24 2014 13:37 GMT
#2400
On February 24 2014 22:36 prplhz wrote:
what if they shoot palmar and rb kush?

oh yeah
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February 24 2014 13:38 GMT
#2403
if only we had our 3rd joat ;p
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February 24 2014 13:39 GMT
#2406
We also have the chance of slam being RB if he is mafia
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February 24 2014 13:42 GMT
#2410
Slam is the lynch today.

Fall into line, kiddos.
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February 24 2014 13:43 GMT
#2414
On February 24 2014 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
damn then if alak flips town im totally gonna die.
I DUNNO THOUGH, can we lynch koshi for being way too trusting of kush?
##vote koshi

stop being shit. you sheep votes all day then you vote for koshi. vote for slam.
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February 24 2014 13:44 GMT
#2416
if there are any other blues

claim in the resolution period
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February 24 2014 13:45 GMT
#2419
why does that even matter?
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February 24 2014 13:46 GMT
#2421
On February 24 2014 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 22:43 marvellosity wrote:
On February 24 2014 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
damn then if alak flips town im totally gonna die.
I DUNNO THOUGH, can we lynch koshi for being way too trusting of kush?
##vote koshi

stop being shit. you sheep votes all day then you vote for koshi. vote for slam.

what do you think of koshi? I doubt we will need votes on slam.

he's town. vote for scum, be a good boy.
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February 24 2014 13:57 GMT
#2429
On February 24 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
righttttt so basically you outright trusted Kush.
k.

Which even in your scenario would make kush town and therefore Slam very likely to be mafia. Chop chop.
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February 24 2014 13:57 GMT
#2430
On February 24 2014 22:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
righttttt so basically you outright trusted Kush.
k.

No. I have brains and I have town role pm.

You are lacking at least 1.

Obviously.

I get a bit hard when you get bitchy, I have to admit.
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February 24 2014 14:11 GMT
#2435
s'ok, mummymarv is here.
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February 24 2014 14:24 GMT
#2440
this is a normal setup.
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February 24 2014 14:28 GMT
#2442
pretty dumb.
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February 24 2014 14:58 GMT
#2448
if kush is town and balla is actually town

there's a floater somewhere :O
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February 24 2014 15:06 GMT
#2453
On February 25 2014 00:05 kushm4sta wrote:
Palmerston I only have 2

??
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February 24 2014 15:10 GMT
#2459
answer, 2 what? what are you referring to?
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February 24 2014 15:13 GMT
#2464
On February 25 2014 00:12 kushm4sta wrote:
I figured why do something tonight if I have no idea what's going on and there's no way I'm trying nk

kush you're really trying to make me vote you.

You have a cop check and you don't know what's going on so you don't use it? How does that even start to make sense?
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marvellosity
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February 24 2014 15:15 GMT
#2469
On February 25 2014 00:14 kushm4sta wrote:
Iyou never use cop check first because then you have to reveal yourself

you don't have to reveal yourself... you keep the check and have extra info to work with.........

..........................................................
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 15:16 GMT
#2471
you are not viging koshi.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 15:20 GMT
#2474
If Slam flips rb

then kush should probably rb.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 15:22 GMT
#2476
Palmar is telling kush to work-out his back muscles. Obviously.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 15:26 GMT
#2480
On February 25 2014 00:24 kushm4sta wrote:
I'll vig alaka.if you want. I just really want to vig someone.

your vote should be on Slam. Proceed to vote plz.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 15:29 GMT
#2484
yes kush
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February 24 2014 15:40 GMT
#2496
who is his scumbuddy, oats?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 15:40 GMT
#2498
On February 25 2014 00:38 Balla24 wrote:
Why would scum RB kush, out of all people? It makes more sense for the RB to have been suki, but she was townreading kush before she died so that doesn't make sense either.

who knows? we don't have to worry about that today though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 19:55 GMT
#2521
On February 25 2014 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did anyone even read Balla's case and how bad it is? Or Oats' case?

If you can make a coherent case on Balla, that would be nice. I'm wary through sheer activity and effort tbh even though there's bad stuff (i pointed some out). Koshi is very anti-balla-scum. If you think Balla is mafia then do something convincing <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 20:46 GMT
#2545
but rayn, it is literally 100% impossible for me to post that much as mafia. Don't ever make that mistake again, I'll be annoyed.

This one was your mulligan.
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marvellosity
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February 24 2014 20:47 GMT
#2546
I put shit off all the time as town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 20:48 GMT
#2548
of course they're crap. they're always crap. still can't do it as scum :>
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marvellosity
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February 24 2014 21:01 GMT
#2553
you're a qtpie Balla, you can stay
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 21:20 GMT
#2565
On February 25 2014 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But he was a suspect. For a lot of people, like basically to everyone. That hit is really weird.

He was town to me t.t
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 21:29 GMT
#2569
On February 25 2014 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i was scum i'd take my chances and kill marv.

Regarding expecting Palmar to die or possibly me, it's something I thought about a bit as well. It smacks of fear and inexperience on the scum team's part. Hitting fluffypuffy was weak.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 21:31 GMT
#2572
he's an extremely strong townie and he had just pushed a godfather lynch with me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 24 2014 21:35 GMT
#2575
on this page Balla tries to convince me he made the mafia hit
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 21:38 GMT
#2577
the point is all the reasoning is weak.

it's one reason that rayn is very unlikely to be mafia. He would know that his team would be massively behind after d1 gf lynch and would probably go for broke and hit me, and if not me, Palmar. I don't see a team with rayn on it ever hitting Puppy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 24 2014 23:18 GMT
#2590
Hey Slam, hows it rockin?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:07 GMT
#2593
*twiddles thumbs*
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marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:09 GMT
#2597
:> now we confirm kush with his roleblock

kush can confirm another player by using his roleblock

too many confirmed townies
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 00:15 GMT
#2602
Are all roleblocks notified, regardless of whether the person has a role?

I'm thinking they are, in which case you should just track someone else, because he will roleblock someone and will self-confirm
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 00:16 GMT
#2603
he can't claim roleblock on dead

he has to roleblock someone like Oats

If mafia don't kill Palmar then Palmar gets a track off on someone else, thus confirming someone else
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 00:17 GMT
#2605
We decide our top 2 scum candidates, kush rb one, Palmar track the other.
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marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:17 GMT
#2606
thank you Balla. in which case my plan is correct
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marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:22 GMT
#2608
wait

i think kush should cop someone.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:22 GMT
#2610
yes kush needs to cop, not roleblock
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marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:23 GMT
#2612
highly doubt there is going to be a framer. there might be a miller

but any green check confirms a target.
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marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:23 GMT
#2614
NO
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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February 25 2014 00:23 GMT
#2616
listen a minute
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:25 GMT
#2619
we don't worry about best case scenarios where we win quick, we worry about worst case scenarios, and we want the most information.

so. if palmar tracks and kush roleblocks, then scum have to kill palmar to stop palmar confirming someone. so palmar will die. kush will confirm someone with roleblock. But the next night kush will not get a cop check off. He will only have one abilitly used.

But, if Palmar tracks and kush cops. Then they still have to kill Palmar. kush probably gets a greencheck confirming someone. Then also the next night, kush can roleblock, and he can announce it in resolution period. Then we KNOW whether his target is mafia or not. so kush gets to use TWO abilities to confirm someone.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:26 GMT
#2620
cop is better rayn, stfu.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:26 GMT
#2621
There has never been a normal mini on TL mafia with 2 mafia roleblockers, it's basically impossible
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:27 GMT
#2622
On February 25 2014 09:25 marvellosity wrote:
we don't worry about best case scenarios where we win quick, we worry about worst case scenarios, and we want the most information.

so. if palmar tracks and kush roleblocks, then scum have to kill palmar to stop palmar confirming someone. so palmar will die. kush will confirm someone with roleblock. But the next night kush will not get a cop check off. He will only have one abilitly used.

But, if Palmar tracks and kush cops. Then they still have to kill Palmar. kush probably gets a greencheck confirming someone. Then also the next night, kush can roleblock, and he can announce it in resolution period. Then we KNOW whether his target is mafia or not. so kush gets to use TWO abilities to confirm someone.

this is the correct plan.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:28 GMT
#2624
who cares? we have 3 lynches.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 00:29 GMT
#2625
if kush is mafia then he inevitably gets lynched. so we assume he is town and get the most out of him. it's just basic logic.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:32 GMT
#2626
the game is literally unwinnable for mafia now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 00:36 GMT
#2630
no, that's a fucking awful idea
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:36 GMT
#2631
you play the way that gets you the 100% win
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:37 GMT
#2632
you don't shoot someone who might be town and gives you one less mislynch if you are wrong
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:37 GMT
#2634
don't give a fuck. you follow the plan to give guaranteed victory.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 00:39 GMT
#2636
yes no-one needs to play anymore, kush just needs to cop someone really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:40 GMT
#2638
Handsome chap.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:41 GMT
#2640
kushm4sta when you read this - cop someone tonight so that you can use your roleblock tomorrow. Thank you!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 00:41 GMT
#2641
On February 25 2014 09:41 Balla24 wrote:
dont tell me youve never seen men in tights

more than I care to mention.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 00:43 GMT
#2644
na kush isn't dumb.

should cop into oats-balla-rayn-prplhz

because why not? doesn't matter that much who as long as it isn't me or palmar, preferably not koshi either
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 01:09 GMT
#2648
good man.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 01:39 GMT
#2651
then we get your track result, i'm ok with that
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 02:41 GMT
#2655
^ good idea
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 09:58 GMT
#2697
lol, brutal.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 10:29 GMT
#2703
well he's not technically breaking any inactivity rules, he posted in night phase and he will be back for day phase.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 10:30 GMT
#2704
Palmar has a roleblock? Oh goody, he can confirm someone. I forgot that.

Palmar let us know in resolution period babes.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 10:45 GMT
#2708
why do you think i'm not doing anything
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 11:00 GMT
#2711
no we lynch Oats.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 11:09 GMT
#2713
maybe. I've not decided yet.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 11:11 GMT
#2714
Oats had this funny conversation with me on day 1 where he tried to convince me what sidesprang did with his rando-vote was more likely to come from town when I was saying I could see a mafia-sidesprang just not bothering and making some vote.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 12:02 GMT
#2717
no, you will roleblock, because that confirms even if you die.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 12:07 GMT
#2720
fo sho
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 12:54 GMT
#2725
On February 25 2014 21:15 Palmar wrote:
we should totally never make kush shoot as it doesn't increase the amount of town controlled kills.

it's 7v1 now, tomorrow d3: 6v1. -> d4: 4v1, -> d5: 2v1. = 3 lynches
if he shoots, we lose a lynch, and gain a vig shot. The only reason we should make him shoot, is if mafia no-kills or we get successful roleblock, in which case we should know scum anyway.




yes we've been through this.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 12:56 GMT
#2727
I have no idea what you're talking about, neither do I really care.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 12:59 GMT
#2729
something about poking prplhz in time. sounds kinda kinky but other than that i don't see the relevance
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 13:04 GMT
#2731
I see. Good stuff. Koshi town-MVP <3 (to be fair you did help to push me off balla, thank you qtie)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 13:51 GMT
#2736
prplhz gonna die. Koshi on the charge.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 16:01 GMT
#2741
the problem is koshi

it doesn't matter where the light is
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 16:05 GMT
#2744
I'm 100% sheeping Koshi next cycle.

Koshi new townleader. It has been decreed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 16:17 GMT
#2746
pretty sure rayn isn't mafia tbh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 17:05 GMT
#2748
On February 26 2014 01:05 marvellosity wrote:
I'm 100% sheeping Koshi next cycle.

Koshi new townleader. It has been decreed.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 19:28 GMT
#2809
oh shut up Oats.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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February 25 2014 23:05 GMT
#2816
what did ya do Palmar?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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February 25 2014 23:13 GMT
#2826
>.>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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February 25 2014 23:14 GMT
#2828
-.-
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February 25 2014 23:35 GMT
#2849
On February 26 2014 08:35 Palmar wrote:
I rbd prplhz for no good reason.

because you wanted to know if you were right about prplhz or not asap.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 23:39 GMT
#2856
On February 26 2014 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btw marv, your plan was bad. both kush and palmar roleblocking was the best plan.

i think kush copping and palmar roleblocking was pretty correct, the 1vs2 ability thing still stands
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 23:40 GMT
#2859
no he couldn't rayn, because kush would have to roleblock the night after.

???
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 25 2014 23:41 GMT
#2861
you're terrible
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February 25 2014 23:42 GMT
#2864
but he still has to roleblock the night after to prove his ability once and for all, and he couldn't

this isn't complicated
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 25 2014 23:44 GMT
#2867
BALLA WOULD KNOW HE WASNT ROLEBLOCKED
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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February 25 2014 23:44 GMT
#2868
there we go
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February 26 2014 00:04 GMT
#2890
##Vote: Oats

24 hour days please
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 26 2014 00:08 GMT
#2893
oh yeah

Not 24h days please yet
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marvellosity
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February 26 2014 09:33 GMT
#2902
On February 26 2014 13:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Last post of this game, you guys totally gonna make this go to lylo and lose.

if you think rayn is mafia which you apparently do, then town wins 100% because he gets lynched in time.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 26 2014 09:48 GMT
#2904
what other possibilities?
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February 26 2014 12:43 GMT
#2907
On February 26 2014 21:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 18:48 marvellosity wrote:
what other possibilities?

that there are scum outside me/rayn/balla.

so basically you mean koshi.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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February 26 2014 12:49 GMT
#2911
if kush is scum then he gets caught anyway. so no problem.

be clear on what you're suggesting already.
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February 26 2014 12:54 GMT
#2914
Oats you're just posting bullshit.
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February 26 2014 12:55 GMT
#2915
oats+balla+prplhz (already done)+rayn+kush will all be caught by lynch/mechanics over the next 2 days
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 26 2014 12:57 GMT
#2916
I wrote this up earlier but cba to post it:

So Oats, if kush is mafia then he gets caught next cycle and we win, so let's assume he's town:

prplhz
kushm4sta

marvellosity
Koshi

Oatsmaster
Balla24
raynpelikoneet

Lynch Oatsmaster and he flips town, kill kush, kush confirms rayn

prplhz
raynpelikoneet

marvellosity
Koshi

Balla24

Lynch Balla and he flips town, kill prplhz

raynpelikoneet
marvellosity
Koshi


And it has to be Koshi. Or me I guess, but it's not me. And it's not Koshi.
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February 26 2014 13:01 GMT
#2918
then I'd have to lynch Koshi at 2-1 lylo. And that's it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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February 26 2014 13:38 GMT
#2922
how is it not? explain.
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February 26 2014 13:39 GMT
#2923
On February 26 2014 22:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
ohhh shit. mafia could withhold kp tmr when kush roleblocks someone and hopes that its not him.

i'll take this gamble lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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February 26 2014 13:41 GMT
#2924
actually no it doesn't work

if mafia hold KP then town gets an extra townie

then kush will be able to vigilante someone without bringing lylo any closer (it will make 3-1 into 2-1)

so the effect is identical
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February 26 2014 13:41 GMT
#2925
the plan is indeed fullproof
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February 26 2014 13:41 GMT
#2926
[sic]
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February 26 2014 13:45 GMT
#2927
On February 26 2014 21:57 marvellosity wrote:
So Oats, if kush is mafia then he gets caught next cycle and we win, so let's assume he's town:

prplhz
kushm4sta

marvellosity
Koshi

Oatsmaster
Balla24
raynpelikoneet

Lynch Oatsmaster and he flips town, kill kush, kush confirms rayn, kush roleblocks rayn, withhold kill

prplhz
kushm4sta

marvellosity
Koshi

Balla24
raynpelikoneet

Lynch raynpelikoneet (confirms kush is telling the truth), kush vigis Balla, kill prplhz

kushm4sta
marvellosity
Koshi


And it has to be Koshi. Or me I guess, but it's not me. And it's not Koshi.


Bold = changes, it ends up at the same place
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 14:09 GMT
#2929
yes i just explained how it's the same.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 14:11 GMT
#2931
99% chance that doesn't happen tbf.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 14:13 GMT
#2933
On February 26 2014 23:12 Koshi wrote:
Oats being this active as scum on D3. Has it happened?
So meh.

what's the point of this post?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 14:20 GMT
#2935
go on.............
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 14:30 GMT
#2937
no
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 14:35 GMT
#2939
I'd much prefer to lynch you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 14:39 GMT
#2941
no it isn't. Because whether it's you or rayn, then the result is identical.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 14:39 GMT
#2942
like it literally makes no difference which way round we do it, and as I prefer to do it this way, then we do it this way.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 14:43 GMT
#2945
in other words, no difference. ok.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 14:43 GMT
#2946
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 15:05 GMT
#2948
no
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 15:05 GMT
#2949
I'm a cruel master
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 15:08 GMT
#2951
<3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 15:18 GMT
#2953
lol are you not reading Koshi?

Oats is out and out trolling
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 16:02 GMT
#2956
well you're next
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 16:40 GMT
#2961
On February 27 2014 01:30 Balla24 wrote:
well we'll beat him in LYLO if he's scum, but you can't actually believe he's scum can you?

Silly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 16:52 GMT
#2964
oh god deadline's not even tonight is it

this is excruciating
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 26 2014 20:30 GMT
#2985
it's tempting to kill balla for the giggles
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 15:36 GMT
#3008
What's the point in anyone playing this out as mafia, unless you're koshi? It's a non-argument.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 15:41 GMT
#3010
Why not?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 15:48 GMT
#3012
Unfortunately we only have your word for that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:00 GMT
#3015
he's like the anti-kush
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:04 GMT
#3018
On February 28 2014 01:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
well I was knowingly not on 0 scums, does that make a difference?

wat
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:16 GMT
#3020
you don't vote for mafia, you get lynched.

may this be your lesson from this game if you are town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:17 GMT
#3021
Remember when I told you days ago why it was important to be honest about what you thought of people's alignments? And you brushed it off?

Well, now look what's happening. Yeah. You dead.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:23 GMT
#3023
Because there's no good reason to call you town, unlike the people who actually tried+succeeded to kill mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:30 GMT
#3027
Shame you didn't follow through and actually vote to kill him, eh?

If you don't wanna get lynched, how about you come up with good reason for someone else to be mafia?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:33 GMT
#3030
Palmar the flipped dead JOAT?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:34 GMT
#3033
so now you get lynched Oats. As I said, if you're town, let this be a lesson to you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:35 GMT
#3035
Yeah but I'm not the one getting lynched. Hang like the steaming dogpoo you are.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:37 GMT
#3037
it's already clear. it's been discussed to death.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:40 GMT
#3040
On February 28 2014 01:38 kushm4sta wrote:
What is it?

Everyone gets lynched except me(koshi) and confirmed people because you can confirm someone tonight if Oats is town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:40 GMT
#3041
and you get lynched tomorrow kush if you're lying.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 16:45 GMT
#3043
your job is to roleblock someone at night and tell us in resolution period who
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 17:02 GMT
#3046
no because that gives us one less lynch.

roleblock.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 17:02 GMT
#3048
actually wait
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 17:03 GMT
#3049
yeah roleblock. don't vig.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 17:07 GMT
#3054
lol. that would be amazingly broken
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 17:07 GMT
#3056
if you're town you'll die tonight anyway because you'll confirm yourself by rbing someone and still have a cop check left too
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 17:10 GMT
#3059
Foundation is actually. Hosted by yours truly. Don't start till at least Monday night anyway though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 17:10 GMT
#3060
I should say co-hosted. sry thrawn.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 17:16 GMT
#3063
Game isn't dumb, we lynched mafia godfather + roleblocker on day 1 + 2.

:D
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 17:23 GMT
#3065
Patience, young one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 17:29 GMT
#3068
he can't win lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 22:06 GMT
#3077
pretty much.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 22:27 GMT
#3081
dw there's days until foundation starts.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 22:33 GMT
#3086
I might invent a game for us all to play if Oats flips town and mafia don't concede. Maybe Holyflare style.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 22:38 GMT
#3089
well it all comes down to me/koshi/one-confirmed
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 22:40 GMT
#3092
you can prplhz. depends who mafia kills.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 22:44 GMT
#3096
mafia could kill kush today and someone confirmed the night after that isn't you
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 22:49 GMT
#3098
so you're bound to survive? <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2014 23:01 GMT
#3105
that's because you're so very backward. but that's ok.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 00:02 GMT
#3111
meh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 09:51 GMT
#3127
On February 28 2014 17:57 Koshi wrote:
If Kush dies and he took a townie with him. VOTE FOR 96H DAYS.

I am not fucking kidding. Do not go for 24h days.

Drag this game out.

As long as you possibly can.

hahahaha <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 10:21 GMT
#3133
On February 28 2014 18:58 Koshi wrote:
marv don't you think it is Kush? He really did completely nothing this game. 3 JoaTs is kinda strong not? Especially with 2 vigs.

I think 2 JOATs is really weak in a 9-3 setup (remember this is significantly worse than the normal 10-3) - that's two blues who can only perform 4 actions between them in the entire game, versus godfather, roleblocker.... but maybe with 2 vigis... I dunno.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 10:30 GMT
#3135
I would imagine her to doc/cop. She had those didn't she? And we would see the results of neither.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 10:40 GMT
#3138
On February 28 2014 19:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 19:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I secretly hope Koshi is mafia but tbh it's gonna be Balla.

meh it's not me. Pinkie swear status not.
It's like insanely obvious tbh.

BUT IT'S NOT 100% LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 10:46 GMT
#3140
can you shut up being annoying
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 10:47 GMT
#3141
if you carry on, kush, I won't let you sit out Foundation.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 10:59 GMT
#3143
mmhmm.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 11:06 GMT
#3145
Lynching kush would be even more fun than lynching Oats. I liked how Oats squirmed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 11:11 GMT
#3146
lol Mocsta just got himself modkillled over in Cultured. Brutal.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 11:21 GMT
#3149
From: VisceraEyes [ 13218 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: You're so sexy
Date: 2/25/14 02:04
LMAO at you fooling all those scrubs by bussing your buddies. Bring it home sexpot <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 11:33 GMT
#3155
Can we still have naughty fumbles in the sauna though?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 11:36 GMT
#3158
I guess I'm not mafia then, I'm greedy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 12:19 GMT
#3160
At least you have another game to entertain you.... :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 12:29 GMT
#3169
that would be retarded.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 16:27 GMT
#3182
top 3? rofl
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 16:27 GMT
#3183
Well we get lots of info within 8 hours. No need for game yet.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 16:32 GMT
#3186
if balla is mafia i'm gonna do some serious gloating
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 17:27 GMT
#3191
stop bullshitting kush.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 17:28 GMT
#3194
uh huh. it's been explained several times no game starts till monday at least.

just make sure you announce your rb in resolution.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 17:31 GMT
#3201
6 hours time
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 17:31 GMT
#3202
On March 01 2014 02:31 Balla24 wrote:
oh yes it's pretty much a waste of time and we should never have started with this plan and just continued playing like normal ^_^, but that's what happens when all the JoaTs claim I guess

incorrect. the plan is the way to win.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 17:32 GMT
#3205
no you won't.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 17:32 GMT
#3208
you always phonepost from work, so it's not a problem
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 17:33 GMT
#3210
scum can't change their action in resolution period

as you well know
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 17:34 GMT
#3212
i'm sure you can find 30 seconds.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 17:34 GMT
#3214
uh huh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 17:35 GMT
#3216
i don't care. just do what you have to do.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 17:41 GMT
#3217
Hey guys, can I/we propose to Syl that we change this to IML?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 23:17 GMT
#3224
there is only one tricky situation, where kush claims to roleblock Koshi and Koshi dies.

Then kush could be mafia but it's not sure, and suddenly there are 3 targets in rayn, balla, kush and only 2 lynches. in this case the correct play is actually to lynch not-kush. It will be 3-1 going into night. Then we tell kush to shoot the other target. If kush is town the other target dies and town wins. If kush is mafia then there will be no vigi and we lynch kush.

the reason it wouldn't be sure that kush is mafia is that the last mafia knows his only chance is to kill the person kush is roleblocking in the scenario that kush is not mafia in order to stand even a miniscule chance. however the vigilante plan deals with that and regardless everyone gets confirmed/dead.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 23:29 GMT
#3228
Why not
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 23:31 GMT
#3230
Yeah but I find it almost impossible he is mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2014 23:35 GMT
#3233
Sadly you are more capable as mafia than he is you see. I'm still heavily on you as town though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 01 2014 00:05 GMT
#3245
gg
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 01 2014 11:13 GMT
#3314
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 00:32:33
March 03 2014 00:26 GMT
#3331
gg. perfect game from town, even lynching non-kush was optimal day 3 because kush's role was provable.

edit:WaveofShadowPerson was signed in when posted
02-25-2014
06:41 PM ET (US)
/m171 I really hope they do right now.
I can't understand for the life of me why they are assuming kush is town.

yeah, because if he's mafia it becomes obvious very quickly, so there's no point thinking about it. I explained this plenty

edit 2: don't know why host didn't call the end of the game earlier tbh. Made the end boring when the result was 100% set in stone. At the very least on the night I died, there was zero reason to play out the next 48 hours. Absolutely zero.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 00:54:12
March 03 2014 00:53 GMT
#3333
yeah you played fine and I'm grateful I got pushed off you

re: rayn, mafia rarely behave like enraging children. like if someone who knows rayn as well as me tells you he is town (and the BttB example was perfect, as much as you disagreed on the specifics) and players like Koshi+Palmar don't disagree... then either you have an amazing read that a bunch of players who know the dude in question simply don't share somehow, or you're incorrect. Chances are it's the latter in the large majority of cases
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 03 2014 23:43 GMT
#3347
On March 04 2014 05:14 Koshi wrote:
Kush should always have been scum in this game. Somewhat sad we lynched Oats over Kush. I knew it d2 but that claim just made him unlychable for me. I dont know if that is the correct play. But the claim dropped him to 1% scum for d3 while failing to do a night action made it 99% again for d4.
I agree with marv this was correct town play. But obs qt wanted to see kush lynch sooner.

I gained considerable satisfaction lynching Oats, so for me it was the right play ;p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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