[M][N] Default Suspicions Mafia
Forum Index > TL Mafia |
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
YOU PALMAR. YOU'RE FUCKING OLD | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 01:47 Koshi wrote: On the record. I like all the people in this game. except prplhz because I don't know who that is and he hasn't got a cool name. How is prplhz not a cool name. Cmon Koshi. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
rayn I don't have some special insight into you, dear. If I had to guess I'd just guess that you wanted it so that if someone had a vote on someone else, it meant something. I have no idea why having a method to unvote is supposed to be in any way scummy though (hi prplhz, suki, maybe other people I forgot in the last 3 minutes). I mean if anyone really thinks this is some convoluted method for rayn not to have to take stands (this is what prplhz said in his vote post), then you're basically totally insane and you should hit yourself on the head. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
##unvote ##Vote: Toadesstern His +1 on prplhz's vote is super-weak. Why is Toad agreeing with prplhz that rayn is looking for a way not to take stands? Toad is passingly familiar enough with rayn to know that's not how rayn operates. Naughty toad. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
give me any game where you make any sort of decent effort without your name attached to your posts and i'd figure out it was you pretty quickly. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 10:30 Toadesstern wrote: I voted him because I like voting rayn after the last game we had together, just look at the post I quoted while voting him. I think that was the first game we had together so no I don't really know how he plays considering that I ragequited because of him on d2. At least I don't recall any other game. Do you honestly think I'm going after him in all seriousness right now instead of just taking sidestabs at him for last game? After posts like these: ? I had the same idea as prplhz had and said I can't think of a reason why a town would want to proppose this and I'd still like to see his reasoning for all this. you can't say 1) "I'm not going after him seriously" and 2) "but I need to hear from him about this" 1) is backing out of it and yet you're pushing it with 2) my vote stands while I go to bed | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 12:06 VIVAX420 wrote: well when suki is scum, she constantly bitches about how stressful it is to be scum. Her early game back and forth with koshi makes her look very town to me. ~~ why vote prpl? just because of the contradiction in that post you quoted? it wasn't so much a contradiction as it was a realization that marv had a good point. Catching up, this is basically right. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
sidesprang, Koshi is right, you need to play the game, and whatever hilarious little games and plans you're coming up with just dropping a vote and leaving - I'll tell you for free, they're neither hilarious, nor clever. Play the game or die. I will quite happily simply lynch you and not think about it. prplhz looks quite fine. Stuck up for himself. Contradiction not a contradiction. rayn looks fine. suki (it's a lady Palmar) I think looks ok, for the sheer disbelief that rayn has a scumread on her. Toad still looks like poopypants. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Agree with you about Koshi - Koshi my love, you can't just hang off me/rayn's coat-tails. You should know by now I only protect you when I have good reasons to think you're town... :> | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
He is very good at posting a lot. Very good. Lynched him with 25 page filter on day 3 in ##. And yet he practically always is slow out the blocks. Ref: World Championship heavyweight mini - very slow out the blocks, and I was suspicious of him for it. LXIII - slow out the blocks. Vengeful (v recent) - I attacked his opening posts because they were useless and wishy washy. Here he's racing out the blocks. Almost doesn't matter how, although I've not seen anything particularly bad. Nothing overly conclusive but definitely puts him on the townside. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 20:08 Palmar wrote: on a scale of 1 - starsenses, how certain are you? If we go 1-10 (10=town) and everyone defaults at 5.5 at the start, maybe 7.5 at the moment. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Agree with you on kush+Smurf as it stands. This game has been much easier to get involved in and I feel kinda inclined to wait and see what a couple of my unknowns are going to do through the day | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 20:22 Koshi wrote: Because marv looked town to me. I don't know. That's why it is called sheeping. Given I've advanced reasoning for Toad to be mafia, do you not have an opinion on the reasoning I gave? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 20:22 Palmar wrote: Out of curiosity, have you realized I'm town yet? I'd say my read on you is progressing at a similar rate to last game. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
I played in a proactive prplhz game once, it was a smurf game though. Palmar hosted it in fact. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
"passingly familiar" hardly is false then is it? :> | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
<3 | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 22:25 Palmar wrote: The one guy I need | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 22:29 Toadesstern wrote: You also know that I'm not the kind of guy who goes back to read old games. You also know that I'm the kind of guy who confuses people with each other a lot and that a lot of stuff that happened in past games mixes in my mind, hell I can't even remember a single game name once it's over. We've been in skype and you do know that. So why did you think I'm particular familiar with rayn's play, probably to the point that I could pinpoint something about it? You usually don't consider me that skilled of a player. I never said you pinpointed rayn's play or anything, that's not what I said. I was actually quite vague. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Normally you love just to sheep what Palmar says/decides (in this case "lynch toad") whereas here you're against what he's proposing. It's unusual for you. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 22:44 prplhz wrote: i don't mind sheeping at all, but i also don't mind not sheeping. i've shept (?) palmar plenty of times but i have also disagreed with him. not entirely sure where you're getting this from but you're wrong. why do you want everybody on board the train to lynch-a-toad-ville and why don't you want to "bother" reading into koshi? it's like 12 hours into the day and you just want to lynch toad and can't be arsed to read a filter in the next 36 hours? I just wanted to see what you'd say really. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 22:45 Toadesstern wrote: you used it to paint me as scum basicly saying I should know better. I don't care how vague you are about that to be honest if you're doing it. You're usually not someone who likes to be vague when talking about meta or someone's reasoning for being town/mafia. How come you just blurted that out without looking it up or taking into consideration that the 2 games I had with him recently both ended on d1 on for me, one being a PM game, one being a ragequit on d1 from me where I certainly didn't go "woahwoahwoah, let's coold down a little and read his filter nice and slowly" I said you should know better than to think rayn would want to get out of taking a stand. Which you should. That's simply true. If there's anything that's immediately obvious about rayn's play is that he is never afraid to take stands, and you don't need an amazing memory to think about that, especially if you've been in a couple of games quite recently with him. Jog on, Toad. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Although I love you both dearly. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
it's brilliant really. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 23:08 Palmar wrote: I really like prplhz's point about koshi, don't you marv? doesn't it make you all warm inside? no, it's exactly the kind of thing Koshi would do as town more than mafia, he'd be more careful as mafia. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 23:10 Toadesstern wrote: how you consider a game that I replaced into, that ended up being canceled 30 minutes after I posted a game I played with him and therefore I should know better because I played a bunch with him is just beyond me. Even rayn said you're pulling shit out of your ass right here and that's quite something comming from you considering we're talking about me here. Literally not what I said. Well done. What I said was perfectly true. You've been in and read games he was in, so you should know that he's not afraid to take stands. You don't need to interact with him to know that. YOU READ HIS POSTS. This conversation is at an end. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
You know that rayn is extremely categorical and not weak and pushes things to fuck and isn't afraid to take stands. Your bullshittery is strong. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
a post I can follow properly :D | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
I don't think we're going to get any further with Toad on this. How about we leave him be and let him scumhunt and do his thing in peace for a while. I think that'll be more useful than keep going over the same things that aren't going to change no matter how much we talk about them. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Im fuckiong done with this shit because i am unable to write any fucking clear posts. bye, my vote stands, see you aon D2. It's nothing to do with being clear, it's to do with the fact that arguing further serves no purpose. Come back later. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 23:44 suki wrote: I know Koshi hates rolling scum and doesn't feel like playing when he's scum. I think he is scummy because he is not analyzing people, not pressuring people and generally just calling people scum or town randomly and making it known he's going to be sheeping. suki, explain to me how this is more likely to come from mafia than town, please. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 23:56 suki wrote: From my previous experience with Koshi, these posts are more likely to come from scum Koshi than town Koshi. This is just off the top of my head because I've gotta go in 10 mins. In Shadowed: The Reboot, Koshi was town and he was active from the start, putting down votes, pressuring, calling out contraditions. In the original Shadowed game, he just talked random shit and wasn't interested in making reads for at least the first part of Day 1. Koshi's behaviour makes me feel like he's not interested in finding who is scum but is just happy to sheep. Regardless of my meta read on him, his contributions to this thread haven't been more than sheeping and weak accusations. Also Koshi I have definitely done more than you this game. At the very least my reads have reasons. I'll be back later. Since when do mafia openly state they will sheep? Have you ever come across that? Can you provide evidence of mafia-Koshi doing that like he has in this game? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 23:59 Palmar wrote: I'm too lazy to go check but I'm very certain I've often seen mafia openly admit to sheeping. Preemptive sheeping rather than sheeping after the event? Not something I remember really. Mafia don't usually announce "I am going to sheep!" - they will usually just do so on the down low. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 23:59 VIVAX420 wrote: eh ill bet anyone toad is town. I dont really get marv's case against him. He's a lynch bait player isn't he? lynch bait players usually look less scummy as town. Plus I don't like the people pushing him. Who in particular? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 00:18 suki wrote: Posting from my phone So if someone open about sheeping that somehow makes it better? What are your reads on koshi marv? Do you dispute my claim that his contributions have been shitty this game? Town do egregious or bad things all the time, and they're usually a lot more open and brazen about it than mafia because they don't care. Mafia will try to dress up stuff with a veneer of respectability of usefulness and such. That's mafia 101. So yes, it does make it better, and it should be abundantly obvious why. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote: yeah i really dont like the koshi case #bandwagon ##vote suki marv, stop bitching about my absence, ill post when I want to. No, I won't. People need to be able to read you and you going "meh, I'm barely going to post" simply isn't good enough. You signed up to play this game, so play it. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 00:41 Oatsmaster wrote: I still believe that Toad is scum though, ah yeah also marv. surprisingly useless this game. I wonder why. "I think Toad is mafia, and the person who made the case on the guy I think is mafia is useless" Brilliant as ever. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Well, you said you're going to post when you want and so far you've done fuck all, so I extrapolate that you want to sit around like a lazy asshole. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Further I've talked about most people in the game by now. Stop bullshitting and stop being bad for once in your life. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Or did you just say that because it makes you feel big to call me useless when I could close my eyes, mash my head on the keyboard and be more useful than you? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Novel concept? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
I feel bad but also not bad for losing my patience. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 01:11 Oatsmaster wrote: Suki is scummier in my opinion, felt really opportunistic and I think that koshi is somewhat townie cause of his few jovial posts. Also it was bad case with many things wrong. Sidesprang pretty town for the vote on Balla because it stands out so much, why do that instead of self voting and hiding? That might be a reasonable interpretation, however I find it more likely sidesprang simply wouldn't want to play as mafia than as town. It stands out but it also takes a grand total of zero effort. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote: These 2. marv, whats the point though as scum. It doesnt force balla into any more pressure or chance of mislynch, it gives him no credit as a bus and it paints a huge target on his back. Like he is way more careful in the scum game I played with him in. There is no point other than he doesn't want to play the game so just makes some random vote. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote: Meh i disagree, its basically fucking his team over completely. yes, for both alignments. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 01:32 Oatsmaster wrote: well less so for town cause you feel ALL ALONE IN A SEA OF ANGRY PEOPLE. I wouldnt lynch him today off only that post. Nor would I, unless I was in a particularly vindictive policy-y type mood, or suddenly everyone I thought was mafia looks town at deadline. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
so boo to you. BOO I tell thee. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: marv, what do you want to talk about? You don't seem like you want to talk about anything. can't tell if srs. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 02:26 Balla24 wrote: I know it doesn't make it look like i'm contributing, that will follow, same with who else is mafia. Don't worry rayn, i'm town and ima coming. It might make him post more who knows, you're undermining it right now though. Can you explain how? Is your thought process. 1) I want to pressure sidesprang into voting, a random vote after everyone's already talked about him will definitely do it 2) sidesprang sees people say it's useless and decides not to post after all, because otherwise the random one-vote pressure would definitely have made him post yes? or what? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 02:57 Balla24 wrote: I'm really really surprised Kush hasn't called me scum yet. I don't think Kush is interested in people's alignments, the past 2 games he has called me scum when my openings were weaker. There's a bunch of stuff that is not saying anything about somebody's alignment. I really would have expected kush to call someone scum by now. Kush who is scum? yeah kush could actually be mafia: On February 20 2014 09:13 VIVAX420 wrote: wait so you are implying that scum is going to be afraid of the default votes enough to come up with a plan like that? On February 20 2014 09:18 VIVAX420 wrote: ##vote toad im not playing i want this addressed. On February 20 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote: toad you are backtracking so hard. it's not serious, yet you gave shitty but serious reasons for it. On February 20 2014 23:59 VIVAX420 wrote: eh ill bet anyone toad is town. I dont really get marv's case against him. He's a lynch bait player isn't he? lynch bait players usually look less scummy as town. Plus I don't like the people pushing him. The last quote does not go with his previous attitude at all. Especially with the "I don't get the case". kush can change his mind on how good the case is all he likes, but it's quite evident that he "gets" the case. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 06:05 suki wrote: I don't buy this marv. Between the second and the third post kush has more posts where he talks about toad and I think his read evolved pretty naturally. What's not to buy? Why aren't you reading? I *specifically* said it wasn't about the evolution of his read, it was about the fact he said he didn't "get" my case despite the fact he clearly gets it as demonstrated by the quotes, because he's essentially using the same points I brought up. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 06:14 Balla24 wrote: EBWOP: cutefluffypuppy lol... didnt mean promethelax although that is who I think it is T_T it isn't I don't know who it is, but I know it's not Prome | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 06:24 prplhz wrote: this game is all over the place gosh darnit, people be accusing other people of being mafia! It should be much neater and tidier, obvs. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 06:28 VIVAX420 wrote: So marv you are tryharding scum now because you sucked it up last time? lol is this really what you've got kush? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 06:29 prplhz wrote: who the hell says gosh darnit anyway marvellosity when he's teasing prplhz, mainly | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 06:34 VIVAX420 wrote: k what is that it's been quoted more than once and it's about you, pretty sure you can't miss it. Run along now. In fact you know what it is, because it's the reason you're omgusing me. Stop playing dumb, twinkletoes, even though it does suit you. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 06:35 suki wrote: Ok, you're saying that kush was saying he didn't understand your case, but his case is exactly the same which is toad was back tracking hard. I'm hesitant to say this is a slam dunk contradiction because there are other parts that you add to your case later, the backtracking was only the first part. It seems really stupid for kush to have said he doesnt get your case, specifically referring to the backtracking. I find it hard to believe anyone could slip like that. What did I add later? The case was always the same. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 06:37 VIVAX420 wrote: my problem with toad was 100% different fom yours. then you morphed it into this thing about misunderstanding rayn. wha tyou were saying was actually total bs. Got into to argument about how well toad knows rayn. That is how I know you are mafia. YUour logic is based on total bs. no, that was just me arguing with toad because toad was talking crap. that's nothing to do with logic, that's just to do with being correct, which i inevitably was. your problem with toad was exactly the same as mine, and it's exactly why I voted him. Why don't you go check before you run your stupid little mouth off? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 10:32 marvellosity wrote: you can't say 1) "I'm not going after him seriously" and 2) "but I need to hear from him about this" 1) is backing out of it and yet you're pushing it with 2) my vote stands while I go to bed On February 20 2014 10:34 Toadesstern wrote: you don't seem to have gotten the timeline of events correct. First I voted him, then I asked him about this and why he's doing that. So yeah I actually can say that because that's how it went down On February 20 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote: toad you are backtracking so hard. it's not serious, yet you gave shitty but serious reasons for it. You quite agree with why I was pushing Toad as mafia | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 06:45 VIVAX420 wrote: it literally doens't matter that we both found him scummy. what matters is my reasons were townie and yours made no sense. My reasons all made perfect sense and you're bad or scum if you don't think so. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:14 suki wrote: CuteFluffyPuppy, why do you think this 'bravado' line of action is more likely to come from scum Koshi than town Koshi? What scum objectives do you perceive Koshi having in his posts? I'm curious what your answer to the 2nd question would have been when you made your case on him. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
My point with the Koshi thing is you're effectively calling him out for the same thing you did in the first place. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
he was eating cake but also not eating cake. Curses! | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:37 suki wrote: If you're saying I'm not giving reads and not analyzing . . . Well I am trying. I want to hear your opinion on me because it seems you've been picking at my words for a while but not actually coming out and saying whether you think that makes me town or scum. That's not what I'm saying. I picked holes in your Koshi case and now you're picking effectively the same holes in what Mr Smurf said. Not that you're not giving reads or analysing or something, dunno how you even thought that? I thought your case made you quite suspicious but I don't have a firm opinion on you until I read your exchange with Balla again. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Is marv scum too? I have a 7 page filter halfway though day 1, statistically I have a roughly 100% chance to be town. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:40 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote: Pg 25-27 Toad's explanation regarding the Rayn plan has left me with more question marks than anything. His initial comment doesn't specify anything about how it's about his reads without the explanation, especially since he referred to the comment as "can't be #1" which indicates he read the actual arguments, yet it's supposedly about his explanation as to why he thought Rayn was scum. It feels to me like a reason he thought of after the events. Not going to push it as per marv's proposal. Don't you think Koshi would know how you're likely to respond to this? It's fairly clear to anyone reading games that carelessness is seen as town. With someone as forthcoming with their thoughts as Koshi usually is, I don't find it unlikely at all. It's an easy way to look town without putting much effort in the game, and Koshi abhors playing scum. Because Koshi does not like playing scum. The way he's playing is the laziest way to still get read as town. I think a town Koshi would take the opportunity to do a more thorough read and get a good read on some players. He hasn't really tried. Koshi's objective is to get read as town with the least amount of effort. It's extremely difficult to look "naturally" careless. I've played more scumgames than anyone else on TL Mafia and I have an exceptional record and I can't really do it. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
what are you doing? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: what do you want to talk about? I want to know why you're calling me mafia when you know I can't be mafia, for one. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Is everyone stupid or something? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Personally I meant that I didn't believe that Toad believed in his own case, as in it was fake. Dunno about Palmerston. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 09:51 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote: I presumed you found it odd in a scummish fashion given Oats brought it up as a thing he thought I was scummy for. As you agreed with him on it being odd, I figured you found me questionable/scummy for it as a result. I found it odd in an odd fashion. That's why I said it was odd. The "but I don't know how much to make of it though" means I didn't attach much alignment-indicative to it. I would have hoped this was obvious. I need to stop assuming people understand posts (not just mine, everyone's :/) | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
What terribly poor form. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
At the very least it's interesting or I care about it, dunno why you wouldn't suki. Unless you're that sure he's town that you don't have to care about it... | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 10:13 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote: You have different standards though. For a player like Kush, it'll be easy to look naturally careless. Everything is always relative. Koshi's play is *extremely* stylistic, so i think what i said holds pretty true for him. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 10:18 Balla24 wrote: Exactly marv, it's very interesting. Regardless of what alignment rayn is he ALWAYS has a reason to do something. If he votes someone it's likely that he DOES see something. This is the second time he's done a "does anybody else see what I see?" type of play. That's not how I'd term it. I think he thinks it's self-evident. I read it again and apparently because I said it's hard to fake looking careless as mafia then I'm mafia? No idea really. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Bad Balla. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
at least rayn isn't tedious, he's just deranged | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
that was useful | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
1) he copied the format as mafia 2) that's how he writes stuff as town and he has done so again you can't tell which. So you ask yourself about the content. And Koshi said he found the content fine. That's the point of it | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Scum scum scum. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 19:47 Toadesstern wrote: Remember that I said I'll play differently this game pregame? That's what I meant, I'm trying to get back into a little less hypno-toad but anything that isn't "Toad is the laziest bum on this planet as mafia" about me is an outright lie from marv. By the way, here Toad is trying to paint himself as a useless douchebag, so that any reasonable point about him (like he should be trying, he should remember what someone he played with a week ago played like, he should bother to actually make some effort) he can brush away with "oh but i'm so shit, you're such a liar". Bullcrap. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 19:47 Toadesstern wrote: Btw marv, seems like your point about how I frequently played with rayn is, yes I know you didn't phrase it like that but it sure did read like that, I wasn't the only one reading it that way and it did feel like a poor attempt to paint me as mafia was considered to be bullshit by most people as well. At the least rayn, NotVixax and I all called it complete bullshit, yet you're boasting about how it's been so awesome and right... still catching up If you read "passingly familiar" as "plays with frequently" then you're just a fucking idiot and deserve to be lynched for being a fucking idiot, never mind being mafia. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
5% for being a clueless moron | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 19:54 Toadesstern wrote: I'm calling you a liar because you're a liar. I've got you in my bottom 5 people if that makes you happy. I wouldn't exactly call that townie and if you look through my filter you'll actually find me mentioning you doing weird shit like that a lot. I don't have a case on you so I'm left with that, especially since I still think Balla's an awesome lynch for today. Also no, I'm not painting myself as a luseless douchebag, if you had actually read what I posted you would have read that I said pregame that I wanted to change my style, I EXACTLY pointed out what I'm talking about in that post you're quoting and if I don't follow up feel free to lynch me based on that. I'm not going to be the usual hypno-Toad this game. yeah last time in Fruity mafia you had the same attitude towards me. that went well for you too | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 19:56 Oatsmaster wrote: im thinking more clueless moron. Wanna lynch Palmar marv? no, I want to lynch Toad, and so should you. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
You have made effort as mafia. That is correct. You caught up on a whole game recently (even if some of it you didn't know your alignment, you caught up on the rest and then you played the game from then on). Stop saying I'm a liar when everything I said is true. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Remember that I said I'll play differently this game pregame? That's what I meant, I'm trying to get back into a little less hypno-toad but anything that isn't "Toad is the laziest bum on this planet as mafia" about me is an outright lie from marv. Just *look* at this! Anything about Toad that isn't calling him the laziest guy ever is a lie! Therefore - how is one supposed to make meta arguments or behavioural arguments against him if that's his stance? BS BS BS BS BS | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 19:54 Toadesstern wrote: I'm calling you a liar because you're a liar. I've got you in my bottom 5 people if that makes you happy. I wouldn't exactly call that townie and if you look through my filter you'll actually find me mentioning you doing weird shit like that a lot. I don't have a case on you so I'm left with that, especially since I still think Balla's an awesome lynch for today. If you are calling me an outright liar and you are town, then I am 100% mafia to you. But you're not doing that. Cos you're mafia | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 20:09 Toadesstern wrote: that's because the first 2 attempts could have been retardation while the 3rd attempt happened when I wasn't in here and I just got back How much more do I need to call you mafia? I got here 10 minutes ago and found you sprouting bullshit about me again. I'm not going to yolo-vote you and call you 100% certain mafia without rechecking your filter That isn't calling me mafia though. That's dancing around calling me mafia. Pretty massive difference. Btw you said "bottom 5" and now you're trying to argue you're calling me mafia. You suck. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
"marv is a liar, he's outright lying about me. Therefore he is 100% mafia" Not "marv is a liar, he's outright lying about me. he weakly painted me as mafia earlier. But the case on Balla is stronger and marv is only in bottom 5 even though he's outright lying about me because that makes perfect sense" | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Just to all townies: Do you think it's possible that you think a bad meta case (balla) is stronger than someone who is repeatedly outright lying about you to get you lynched? (marv) | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 20:23 Toadesstern wrote: Okay, you know I said I want to play more thought-out and I said I'd so pregame, correct? Have you ever tried to get rid of a mistake you're doing repeatedly? Anything. Playing golf and your swing is to much from the outside? Playing trombone and you always get that one note wrong because you think it's an F and not something else? What do you do to get rid of it? You do the opposite and start out with exaggerating it to get a feeling for it. Because if you're trying to get rid of it by playing "normal" chances are you're still WAY wrong and not enough in the right direction, it just feels normal to you because you're so used to your mistake. So no I'm not going to call him mafia without rechecking his filter if my attempt is to get rid of exactly that. Toad, you can't excuse "trying to play differently" with not thinking someone is 100% mafia who keeps lying about you to get you lynched. Some things just don't change, and that's one of them. Do you know why? Because 0 townies in the history of mafia have lied repeatedly to get someone lynched. That's not something you "fix", that's self-evidently true. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 20:29 Palmar wrote: Marv there isn't enough scum in this game. We need to fix this. I was thinking of writing a classic Palmar list style post, I actually have it ready, but the problem is I only have one person in the Scum group, and 2 people in vigipls group. <3 I'm glad you thought this. When I went to bed last night I thought maybe sidesprang is mafia after all, because I wasn't sure who the other 2 mafia were supposed to be. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 09:00 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote: Pg 28-30 Suki suspects Koshi for the same things I do. Makes me feel good about her. I disagree with the talk around it as it's the way Koshi represents himself that is so conscious that I feel it has to be intentional. He's aware of how the posts he makes will be read and thus posts them as such. The pretending of Koshi to have a serious reason to vote Balla does seem town to me though. There was an active intent to try and get a read on Suki using a plan. Thinking about that I'm coming around to Koshi. The times I've ever seen scum fake making a trap and then springing it have been very rare, and this was an on the fly thing. ##Unvote ##Vote CuteFluffyPuppy Not sure what to think right now. This is kinda annoying because it looks quite town. Seems a rather convoluted play to go make a case on Koshi and then "remember" something Koshi did earlier and decide he's not mafia for it after all, all within a single set of catchup posts. I suppose the flip opinion might be that as he read through the thread it looked like influential players weren't keen on the Koshi thing and suki got a lot of heat for her Koshi case. So now I'm not so sure as when I started this post. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
I have no real idea what Smurf thinks about anything. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Do you think rayn calling me mafia is townie, Koshi? why else do you have him solid town now? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 20:50 Koshi wrote: Biggest filter & Driven. Calling you mafia does not make him mafia even if you say he does it when he is mafia. Not this game. He was also too smug about it. Is he normally smug about it? that's a good answer, that's fine. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 21:31 Palmar wrote: I am almost always terribly wrong on one mafia and call him town, so you could check out in my top 7. But I think toad is a good day 1 lynch. The problem is I agree completely with where you put absolutely everyone, except I'd probably move kush down one. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
I didn't think that one through | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 21:41 Palmar wrote: no taking back, from now on you must consider me confirmed town and leader of town for the rest of the game. Actually you can be a god and mafia that's why I moved prplhz down, because I wanted him to be town. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 21:52 VIVAX420 wrote: to me toad seems consistent in his cluelessness from what ive read Yeah this is why everyone thought he was town in Shadow too, and it was terrible. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 21:52 VIVAX420 wrote: to me toad seems consistent in his cluelessness from what ive read Oats was specifically referring to where Toad was being inconsistent though. So in "context" as you put it yourself, it was quite the correct word. Wriggle wriggle. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 21:48 VIVAX420 wrote: "wishywashy", "inconsistant." both words are completely meaningless in this context. His point on suki: lynch suki because he talked when no one told him to. and that's why hes scum. oats is like so obviosuly scummy reading his filter. every post he makes is scummy. that is just the firs.t Actually I find this whole post pretty bad, because you're misrepresenting what Oats said about suki as well. The main thrust is obviously that suki commented on something without giving an alignment-opinion on it, and therefore it was filler. Not that suki talked without being told to. In fact Oats' point, rather, is that suki's post may have been excusable if someone had asked for her opinion on the rayn-policy stuff and had to give one, but she specifically went out of her way to give a post that didn't have any conclusions. In short, you suck kush. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Anyway, do you have any more evidence beyond that one post? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Especially when he knows Oats in general says weak shit constantly. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 22:25 VIVAX420 wrote: know when you like half write up a huge case on someone then in the middle you realize they are probably town then you are like fuck i wasted all this time This would suggest you ever made a huge case on someone ever. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 22:54 suki wrote: So you're just content with trolling the newbie huh The problem is, suki, you ask questions like the one you just asked to Palmar, which come across as really odd. It seems kinda obvious that kush had just been in the thread spouting off about Oats and so at that moment Palmar was thinking about kush and Oats in relation to lynchings, so he just made that semi-throwaway comment. Further what possible answer can he give that might affect his alignment in any way? "oops I forgot you suki" "omg you must be scum for forgetting that I'm your #2 read"? I don't understand the angle of the question you're asking or what you're trying to achieve, and I don't think that's the only instance of that happening. Further still, you are a girl and I'm scared of girls. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 23:05 suki wrote: Palmar tell me why my case is bad and why that makes me scummy. And marv, if he does say 'oops I forgot about you' and then continues to push my lynch then there's some dissonance going on there. Because if he feels so strongly about me being scum but he's willing to lynch two 'vigi please' people over me (since vigi please is higher on the list), then his story and his actions don't check out. I find it hard to understand if you genuinely believe this, or it's just because you're new or something. He had you as "maybe scum" I think? below scum-Toad, that doesn't even start to suggest "so sure" that you're mafia. It's stretching my credulity that you think if he thinks about lynching people who are not-you that his story and actions suddenly don't check out. That's just ... it just doesn't make very much sense tbh. He's not trying to lynch either you or kush/Oats right now, so I have no idea where this is going. I'm frowning while I'm writing this because it's hard to convey quite how weird your angle is. Like assuming you're town anyway, why would it be a bad thing if Palmar is considering other people ahead of you? just because he put you as "maybe scum" on a list? really? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 23:07 prplhz wrote: he was never scum tier material, i just thought he was acting a little odd but i accept that it could just have been a "vote this and lets see what happens" kind of thing, i think he's done that plenty of times before he seems like he's in a very jolly mood and i think that points at town. i think he likes town more than scum. also this toad lynch is more yours than his yes I said "his" because you were attacking Palmar and Palmar is championing toad, not because Palmar specifically started the lynch. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
I shit on Oats for being bad, not you. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 23:16 prplhz wrote: it wasn't really an attack, it was just a "bah i don't like railroading anyone, not even toad, lets see if something odd is happening that i can prod at" and then palmar did something odd and i pointed it out. maybe he is championing it but i really still consider it your lynch because he's using your arguments. i guess in reality it the arguments' lynch but they're your arguments so it's kind of your lynch. doesn't matter all that much whose lynch it is though i guess. what do you think about oats? is he another "leave him be and we'll figure him out"? yes it's irrelevant, i was explaining why i said his. ergo you said palmar was shady and palmar was championing toad. literally nothing more to it. i have no idea about oats at all. not sure we'll figure him out eventually either. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
suki: On February 21 2014 22:51 suki wrote: marv I take this to mean you think I'm scummy? I ask because you still haven't straight up said how Balla and I look even though you kept saying you had to go back and re-read our exchange. On February 21 2014 22:53 marvellosity wrote: that would be the interpretation yes. The 2nd exchange you had last night that I was able to pay more attention to/follow better had Balla looking better because he was doing the aggressive pursuing and you were quite defensive. On February 21 2014 22:59 marvellosity wrote: The problem is, suki, you ask questions like the one you just asked to Palmar, which come across as really odd. It seems kinda obvious that kush had just been in the thread spouting off about Oats and so at that moment Palmar was thinking about kush and Oats in relation to lynchings, so he just made that semi-throwaway comment. Further what possible answer can he give that might affect his alignment in any way? "oops I forgot you suki" "omg you must be scum for forgetting that I'm your #2 read"? I don't understand the angle of the question you're asking or what you're trying to achieve, and I don't think that's the only instance of that happening. Further still, you are a girl and I'm scared of girls. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 23:24 Palmar wrote: yeah, it needs to be an actual challenge for it to be fun. On February 21 2014 11:23 suki wrote: I do and I really like this analysis ##unvote ##vote Palmar This vote came completely out of left-field. If we go back to the Koshi case that suki made, within that case Toad had no redeeming features at all still (and could be voted for later). But here Palmar is worth a vote for prplhz mentioning bad associative reads and that's it. It's like it was one thing about Palmar which was perhaps semi-significant that was worth a vote without considering anything else that Palmar had done at all. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 23:30 suki wrote: Did you maybe miss the entire post that I made on palmar like just before prplhz's post? The one where I said here is why I find Palmar scummy? er.... quite possibly let me go check. I was actually browsing through trying to find something Balla said and just found that instead | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 23:38 suki wrote: Great. You go ahead and sheep your way to victory. I should try that some time instead of wasting all this effort. Do you still think Palmar is suspicious? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
I already indicated in the thread earlier that I thought you were a competent player for both alignments. Given you actually try you're ok in my book whether you're town or mafia, so let's just play le game. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
yeah it's a bit dodge. oh well. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote smurfdude I actually look better than I have in recent games so I have no idea why he thinks im worse. He clearly has played with me before and therefore is intentionally misrepresenting my play in order to twist it to call me scum Wasn't it you who told me you look better as mafia on day 1? Woopsie! | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
might be nice if he explained that Palmar switcheroo though | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote smurfdude I actually look better than I have in recent games so I have no idea why he thinks im worse. He clearly has played with me before and therefore is intentionally misrepresenting my play in order to twist it to call me scum On February 21 2014 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote: no, you check the meta to see that I look like town early and look like scum late as scum but I look like scum all game as town. .. Uh oh........... | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Now Oats says he looks better and so smurf is mafia for trying to lynch him, when surely if Oats looks better he's more likely to be mafia, according to his own self-description of meta | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 00:12 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote: If Oats actually looks scummier as town then I'd find it more likely he's town here. However, the fact that he brought up this meta himself and then proceeds to call my read bad when he has said he's basically playing to his scum meta is pretty damning. I want him to come back and defend himself/shout at me. Will be v disappointed if that's his one post -> afk | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Now I want Toad to flip town | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 01:21 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont get really how me looking better than recent games = me looking town. what does better mean otherwise? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote smurfdude I actually look better than I have in recent games so I have no idea why he thinks im worse. He clearly has played with me before and therefore is intentionally misrepresenting my play in order to twist it to call me scum How would you say you look better than recent games? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Something I noticed earlier when I was looking at her filter in this game is that she asks so many times of people "who is scum and why" or similar questions and they always feel like empty questions to me. But she does it a bunch in that Normal Filter as town too, and basically not at all as mafia. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote: huh yeah her LI filter is like super directed and she always looks certain. this game not so much. Mannn why you gotta be like this suki. I dont think filter length is all that relevant considering newbie games generally get less posts overall anyway. Agreed, but still her filter is as long in this game and it's Day 1 as it was after the entire game in that mafia game. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 02:10 Oatsmaster wrote: yeah i guess. Man clearly scum dont attack oats anymore. Hueristic gone you always said that mafia don't attack you. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 02:12 Oatsmaster wrote: What do you think of smurf being so super sure that palmar is town? Like if palmar is scum then this point is totally moot but smurf never mentions palmar at all which is interesting considering his read is so strong. I don't think that necessarily implies a strong townread, it's more the implication of attacking a strong/influential player in general. I mean yes it implies a townread, but not a Palmar-totes-town, more a Palmar-totes-influential type way | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 20 2014 23:08 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote: Catching up, replying as I'm reading through the pages. 13-15: I'll have to take your word on it. I find it unlikely you'd lie about this regardless of your alignment. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
hmmmm. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote: wait wait what the fuck is this Since the start? Thats clearly not true. ok I saw the post where he gave up the scumread. It seems like it happened way too easily I read "since the start" there to mean "after the original stuff between us happened" as opposed to "from the very beginning". | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
I am pretty curious about this Smurf meta thing now. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Koshi: meh, ok | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 03:26 LoneMeow wrote: Please vote properly, I'm not going to start guessing who you mean. this is like 2 posts above where you ask him why he hasn't counted your vote. Christ. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
:/ | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
1) you are mafia 2) you are a complete fucking retard. which is it? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
You are doing the identical thing you did in BttB. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Here rayn literally attacked Toad for 50 posts. Toad does nothing to redeem himself. rayn is convinced he's mafia. Then a flip switches and he suddenly thinks I am mafia and suddenly Toad is certain to flip town. It's just so fucking dumb. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
it's a simple equation | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: There are two people who can easily lynch Toad. Me and marv. Let's says we are town and Toad is mafia. He attacks me, last time he attacked me for stupid shit i got him lynched regardless of his cop claim. Does his argument against marv look like he is just arguing with him for the sake of arguing? Well to me it does not. To me it looks like he genuinely believes marv is lying or misrepresenting him or whatever. Game starts, Toad's scumplan: "Let's attack people who are most likely gonna lynch me for it!" Yes, makes sense! The problem is, Toad has never expanded on any of this. "I need to go back and check the filter" -----> nothing "Balla is still my strongest scumread" -----> nothing *shrug* | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: There are two people who can easily lynch Toad. Me and marv. Let's says we are town and Toad is mafia. He attacks me, last time he attacked me for stupid shit i got him lynched regardless of his cop claim. Does his argument against marv look like he is just arguing with him for the sake of arguing? Well to me it does not. To me it looks like he genuinely believes marv is lying or misrepresenting him or whatever. Game starts, Toad's scumplan: "Let's attack people who are most likely gonna lynch me for it!" Yes, makes sense! Oh and by the way, the whole point of the case on Toad is that he attackd you but didn't really attack you and tried to push it off as joking while also not joking. The only reason it turned into a thing is because I picked up on it and pushed it, otherwise it would probably have just drifted out into nothingness, you would have answered Toad, toad would have gone done something else. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it's not. All this has to do with is Toad's and suki's alignments and if i am right and you are not then you are the one who is being dumb because suddenly my questions are totally relevant. na i was specifically referring to your attitude towards me. i have responded a couple of times about toad in the last page, maybe you'd like to talk to me about what i said | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 06:47 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote: Will posting random gifs help make me entertaining? it's definitely a start | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 07:15 Palmar wrote: Toad isn't even bothering. wow. yeah, if he is actually town that's 100% lame. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
rayn's refusal to engage with me about toad is pretty retarded, but i guess that's to be expected. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 08:57 prplhz wrote: what's a shenannie person? someone who is accustomed to engaging in shenannies. for example i would not describe you that way. There was a period of the shenannie where it occurred a lot and it stuck around | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 09:29 Koshi wrote: marv pretty cool guy and he was 95% sure on Toads? It's almost just as good as somebody posting babyseals in the thread. You just vote the guy. That as my reason to vote and it was somewhat obvious. Also. I said multiple times that Toad didn't attack anybody else than rayn/marv and that I found that scummy later. Imo we can cross out some people that shouldn't be lynched and we got some town reads whos reads we can trust. Like Palmar pretty townie so we can trust plphz guy to be town. Stuff like that. Koshi understands how to play mafia. This guy will go far. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
kush looks awful as well. Remember how I picked him up middle of the day. He was kinda suspicious of Toad at the start. 1.Then "Toad is town, I don't get marv's case at all" 2.Then "I will quit mafia if Toad flips town" Can anyone tell me how kush got from 1 to 2? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
"Neigh" go the horses. "Just wait a minute" says marv. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 10:02 Alakaslam wrote: 70+ pages hijole Folks I will be far more productive if folks just catch me up by talking as if you are the only person who remembers wtf happened earlier and I work off the current stuff. That way I will catch up by osmosis and still bring a fresh read to the table (though it will be a crap read... But I will work on my play) What page is the phase post on and what phase is it now? If no one is online to reply in 10 I will just go look, my connection is faster than that... Just started N1, flip was on page 74 | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 09:31 suki wrote: There is someone else who thought toad was going to flip town. Early game he consistently had toad on his list ... then he randomly starts saying toad is town. This is before rayn came back and declared toad was town. I think it's not very likely that this is a scum plan to save toad. He gains nothing when toad flips and nobody was defending toad at that point. He could easily have kept suspicious of toad and still pushed whoever he felt like. Perhaps, but Oats happily said mafia were town when he was mafia in PYP:LoL. Even mafia who were flipping. Ref: Meapak_Ziph at some point. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 11:39 Koshi wrote: Fucking LM is.cohost. like how.the fuck did I think he was the puppy........ so dumb. I sleep now. You mean aside from the fact his posting couldn't possibly be from LM besides? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Still vig/cop on Oats/Slam in that order would be my preference. We could never lynch Oats with confidence. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 18:38 Oatsmaster wrote: Palmar do you have a list of scumreads? Why are you asking this? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 16:08 Balla24 wrote: nope, being lazy tonight :D :D... im going to re-read and post stuff tomorrow. I expect this to be out in a timely fashion this phase because I wish to judge you for it | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 21:02 Oatsmaster wrote: I really dont get why Im still a vig target. I asked palmar because I want to know. Why do you want to know? What does it gain you? I explained why you're a vig target. If you're town, btw, you would improve your game by not assuming someone I'm certain is scum is going to "definitely flip town", because that doesn't really happen. You had irrational certainty that Toad was going to flip town and it comes across as quite artificial. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 21:08 Oatsmaster wrote: It gains me knowledge of what to push so that Palmar will sheep me tomorrow. good job marv, you figured it out. Neither of these are real answers. Well done you. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Have fun without lying about people's alignments just to troll. It's fucking awful and you should feel fucking awful that you think that's acceptable as a way to play mafia | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 22:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I still don't know why prplhz is town. at the very least it seems unlikely that toad would do a terrible +1 on another mafia player's weak original point | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
thx prplhz | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 22:12 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote: Like if someone can explain to me how spending 4 hours catching up and analyzing as I go along then ending up with no suspects when the scum bandwagon which is a godfather is leading makes any sense as scum I'm all ears. If you say WIFOM I will PM the host, get a vig role and shoot you. wifom | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 22:14 Oatsmaster wrote: why so srs marv? Like sure I couldve gone, "sheep marv bla bla" and that makes me a 'good' player? Thats not right. yes, it is actually. A competent player knows when to sheep someone better than them rather than going "this guy is definitely gonna flip town" just to troll. That's exactly right in fact. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Without being snippy for a moment. Who was the player, who when I made my original points on Toad, went "yeah that's good, toad is mafia"? Palmar. Palmar understood a good point made by someone else and rolled with it, because he is good. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
And maybe Oats town although the idea is disgusting so I won't commit to that. so then maybe suki and one of kush/slam. dunno. I guess blues into this group? Into Oats too couldn't hurt probably | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 22:22 prplhz wrote: also toad pointed it out before i did so if anything i was +1ing him saying someone shouldn't care about wanting to pseudo-unvote isn't the same as saying about avoiding taking a stand. this is all very helpful though prplhz, thank you x | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 22:25 prplhz wrote: oh shove off you're just in a foul mood fancy commenting on people's alignments rather than telling people to calm down and correcting things? :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 22:31 Oatsmaster wrote: and i know who smurf is, its WAVEOFSHADOWS that's a decent guess | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 23:48 Palmar wrote: 100% legit case. I'll give you mafia lessons for 30$ hour so you can be good like me one day. why would I pay to get worse? jeez. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
9-3 quite tough for town in general and with a gf flipping that also suggests we have useful things | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
because that has a higher than 0% chance of happening | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 23 2014 03:15 prplhz wrote: obligatorysmurfguess: yamato also marv might bus sandro because sandro will sometimes literally afk out of scum games while he will not hard bus toad unless he has very good reason for it and he didn't this game suki was talking about Palmar, not me, she just used Shadow as a handy bussing example | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 23 2014 04:31 Balla24 wrote: Nope. 'tis what I said, her thought process on me this night has been really odd. She usually has much more respect for my cases and what i'm saying. I don't really follow why she keeps going from "Man ballas scum game is so different from this" to "Actually balla has done a lot of scummy things this game" So I think her read is unreasonable. Like I said though, for me, that kind of swinging is indicative of town suki. .... this post makes zero sense. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
who tried to be a hero? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
unless mafia had found a suki crumb or something | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
if I could confirm rayn as town to you, who would be your best guess for the 2 mafia? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
##Vote: Balla24 that's where i'm at for now, i'll think about it more tomorrow. although i'll probably be in the thread a little while | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
##Vote: Vivax420 | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
ugh | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 02:22 Balla24 wrote: The rest of the case is meta and I can see what you're seeing but you're also only looking at the first couple posts in the game. So if you play like that fine~ However here what I quoted you're ignoring context. I was asking Koshi to do something because he was saying "hey balla is maybe scum" and I wanted him to post his reasoning so we could get into a shit show and people can start the game based on that... but it turns out he didn't. I was doing the same thing when Suki was withholding saying why I was scum. I wanted them to post it to start something because they kept hinting that they were going to but not doing it. Prplhz WAS the only one starting anything so I don't see what's red about that... On February 21 2014 02:59 Balla24 wrote: Just so you know I'm specifically referencing how you might think my opening is similar to how I opened in those scum games, it could for sure be seen as similar somewhat. That's all... I don't want to be the guy who talks about his own meta so i'll leave it at that unless people want me to go at it. On February 21 2014 08:32 Balla24 wrote: I don't see any possible reason for you to withhold that reasoning. Regardless, if you think suki and I are scummy. Then why are you voting toad? What do you think of toad's case on me beyond "I don't believe it", why don't you believe it etc etc... What about suki's case on me? and has your opinion of suki changed since you sheeped on rayn? She's posted plenty since then. On February 21 2014 11:18 Balla24 wrote: I really don't understand why he didn't put his vote on me instead of Toad. His vote on toad was so useless then considering toad wasnt even there anymore and toad made a case on ME, when he thinks im scummy. He didn't even re-evaluate toad after that. Then he refuses to answer my questions. into calling Toad mafia. No mention of what I brought up and pushed at Toad consistently. No interactions with Toad beyond responding twice to the case Toad made on him. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 04:32 Balla24 wrote: @Palmar, how come you switched off kush because "scummy people are voting" for him yet you aren't switching off toad? yuck | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
##Vote: Balla24 | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 21 2014 11:18 Balla24 wrote: I really don't understand why he didn't put his vote on me instead of Toad. His vote on toad was so useless then considering toad wasnt even there anymore and toad made a case on ME, when he thinks im scummy. He didn't even re-evaluate toad after that. Then he refuses to answer my questions. And yet Balla voted the totally absent sidesprang? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 07:21 LoneMeow wrote: Current suspicions: Oatsmaster (1): Toadesstern (7): Balla24 (3): suki (1): Toadesstern is now set to be lynched! Next deadline: Deadline date: Saturday, Feb 22 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) If Balla is town no mafia ended up with a vote on Toad according to current reads and flips | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 23 2014 18:11 kushm4sta wrote: so marv is voting for balla for not mentioning some case he wrote. marv thinks he is a mafia god now for lynching toad. One day you'll learn basic reading comprehension I say that, but you probably won't. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 22 2014 07:21 LoneMeow wrote: Current suspicions: Oatsmaster (1): Toadesstern (7): Balla24 (3): suki (1): Toadesstern is now set to be lynched! Next deadline: Deadline date: Saturday, Feb 22 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) Just bringing this up again in case anyone wants to talk about the likelihood of 0 mafia being on Toad or who it would be otherwise | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 23 2014 23:08 kushm4sta wrote: im just trying to figure out why teh fuck people want to lynch balla? As it stands suki was becoming suspicious of balla and she has played several games with him CuteFluffyPuppy found Balla's reactions to the fakeclaim thing suspicious Balla failed at any time to address the case on Toadesstern, and I don't really buy the argument "I felt nothing either way so I didn't comment on it at all" Is probably the most likely mafia person on Toadesstern if one exists Kept asking Palmar why his vote was on Toadesstern (when it was obvious that the Toad case was the strongest in the thread apart from anything else) puts obv-town marvellosity under a heading "pretty questionable" and tries to palm it off saying I'm on the townside (personal reason :D) | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
just like you said toad was definitely town. great call there too. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 23 2014 23:30 kushm4sta wrote: summary: he didn't comment on your toad argument and he thinks you might be scum, therefore he is scum. terrible case but i still like you as town because the terribleness comes from a place of arrogance i know you have inside you. The fact is, it wasn't just my toad argument. It was my toad argument that I repeatedly pushed and explained. Palmar repeatedly pushed and explained the Toad argument. rayn repeatedly pushed Toad. Balla never addresses any of this. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 23 2014 23:30 kushm4sta wrote: summary: he didn't comment on your toad argument and he thinks you might be scum, therefore he is scum. terrible case but i still like you as town because the terribleness comes from a place of arrogance i know you have inside you. It's tempting to lynch kush for this alone. You still like me as town? Well fucking duh. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
btw if balla isn't mafia then you are, so i'd be careful with what you're arguing here | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 23 2014 23:56 Koshi wrote: I read all the things but cant check them. But did the puppy say Balla was scum before resolution? Also it isnt fair to use both deaths against balla because one was killed by town. I also do not like the vote analysis because prplhz for instance has done shitall since Palmar has been vouching for him. The reasons to why Palmar finds him town did not repeat themsleves anymore. He is in the shadows. I mean, there is room for somebody else being scum on the toad wagon. Why was Palmar not shot? He was on Puppy, so shooting puppy makes "confirmed" town look elsewhere. Meh. Balla big post very townie still. rayn knows balla very well. He lynched him twice and played scum with him. That scumgame I was in the game and it does not look like this. Why is rayn so irrational? It pisses me off because he is bad. He knows balla and can make a real case if he wants. Instead we get this retarded garbage that is retarded. Even I push rayn with more reaskning than this when I am in tunnel. Currently not near pc. 4 hours from now I will be. But will phonepost some. what? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 00:44 Koshi wrote: No. Nobody is town solely for something like that. I read prplhz yesterday and I can see him town. But like 75% and as long as he keeps doing nothing he bleeds percentages. And the vig is you or him most likely. Imo that wiuld be nice to clear up because both of you are unlikely to be lynhed and the information helps town. Anyway, only right lynch so far is Kush. Why were you all "sheep marv" on day 1 and now you're all like "the only right lynch is one marv isn't pushing"? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 01:16 Balla24 wrote: And the fact that i was saying suki was town when no one else and i was right. I can understand how that looks odd but youre not looking if i had any good reasoning for doing so. Also not looking at the fact that I have been the only person to play every single game with suki since her return to mafia in newbie li. It's this fact I'm bearing in mind when suki was becoming more suspicious of you towards the end of N1 tbh. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Now just because they are legit don't make them right, but as you kindly pointed out she's played a tonne of games with you, so yeah. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
##Vote: kushm4sta | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
marv Palmar rayn Koshi prplhz Possible townie: Oats Scum pool: kush Slam Balla To be honest, if kush is gonna troll and be an arse and balla is gonna try, i'm happy to lynch kush first, because there's a decent chance he'll be mafia. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 06:15 Koshi wrote: Well, when you find time show me these very wrong reasons. I can understand that his townread on suki seemed strange but I was arguing with the same guy in the obs QT in shadowed. His big post with scum Toad and Kush seemed maybe coming out of the blue but his case on Alakaslam in shadowed was also pretty new when he posted it and he was right. Isn't it interesting he puts suki and prplhz as town in his post and marv/rayn as null? If he is scum he puts the storng people as null and possible mislynches as town. And his scumbuddies as scum? That's very brave. What actually bugs me is not the fact that he put me as questionable then (although that bugs me) - it's that later on when I'd posted a TON more (and decent posting) he still wasn't willing to call me town. That's at the very least terrible, weak play if balla is town (sorry balla if you're town, but it just is) Further if Balla is mafia then Slam is his likely partner, not kush. Because what Balla did is have his cases on kush and Toad but he had his vote on kush and not Toad. This is a classic mafia play, having 2 scum suspects and having your vote on the townie and looking good later for having scum as scum. Balla only put his vote on Toadesstern later when the lynch was a formality. I'm willing to vote kush though, if kush flips town then Balla is an autolynch. Or we can lynch Slam who probably has the highest individual chance of flipping mafia. I don't care all that much honestly. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
That's a Slam mafia reaction. As town he asks to get lynched just in case so town doesn't get confused later. Here he's bitching that other people have done worse things and goes afk again. Scummy scum Slam. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 18:55 Koshi wrote: I agree. I found it suspicious as well. The guy needs to come back. asap. Well, like I said yesterday *before* he posted that I thought he had the highest individual chance to flip mafia. Then he posts that also. So yeaaaah. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
no | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Because balla wrote a lot of words i will vote kush or slam today. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 19:27 Koshi wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=441091&user=Wile E. Coyote In this game Alakaslam was pretty readable and made back to back useful posts. He was town. I feel like this game Alakaslam makes way less useful posts but he did replace in. :/ so? he's not even trying. he came in to drop that one bitching post and just left. Terrible. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 19:11 Palmar wrote: I would actually prefer slam based on the 1% chance my initial read on kush was right, but when I think about it that read was based on him saying smart things and making sense, and that's breaking his meta. There's one thing for kush too. Usually when he's mafia and he's attacking me he uses bad generic reasons. When he's town he tells me my reasoning was fucking terrible therefore I'm scum (I think he did this in ## iirc) like he did in this game. Admittedly it's not much. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 19:12 Palmar wrote: or a guilty, ofc. I'm totally not scum with prplhz guys. :/ | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 16:24 Balla24 wrote: Oh oats I forgot you were in a decent timezone to talk to me, why are you lurking so much at night when you're not even confident i'm scum (you just voted me "before marv throws a fit")? You could be pressuring me, asking me questions etc... On February 24 2014 16:25 Balla24 wrote: Also lol... you noticed that was there and read that in 2 minutes? That's pretty impressive. Anyways, unfortunately i'm going to sleep. Peace~ See why didn't the vigi hit someone like Oats or kush rather than someone who would play the game. So so sad. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Let's decide between kush/Slam later today then or something? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 20:18 Oatsmaster wrote: nah balla is not really in the picture anymore after I slept and thought about it. Slept and thought about it in 4 hours? :o | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 22:25 Palmar wrote: Fun fact, I initially sent in a vig shot on slam, but then he showed up and started posting so I just shot someone else instead. Wish I had just kept it, just felt like a bit of an asshole shooting him just after he replaced in. that's the best time to shoot people though. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 22:26 Palmar wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Vivax42 I don't believe this claim, I don't believe he'd not use any of his powers on n1. I don't believe scum would roleblock him, and I think suko is smarter than to not use the dt check on day 1. Ok 1. Why would mafia claim the only power role to have just flipped 2. Why would mafia claim to not use one of their roles (DT check) when they can easily fake this | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Palmar do you have a useful power left? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Can you tell me what you have left? Does it really compromise you if we know you're already 100% JOAT? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
JOAT have 2 powers to use once each. 3x2 | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
##Vote: Alakaslam | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 22:34 Palmar wrote: how? if I watch his target mafia/vig will look exactly the same going for the kill. You watch kush. kush uses vig. 2 people turn up dead and kush is confirmed. if kush is rbed you would see it. that's an initial plan | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 22:35 prplhz wrote: so yea you were right kind of yeah that's what i meant. 2 total power uses each. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
then we think about it deeply. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 22:36 prplhz wrote: what if they shoot palmar and rb kush? oh yeah | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Fall into line, kiddos. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote: damn then if alak flips town im totally gonna die. I DUNNO THOUGH, can we lynch koshi for being way too trusting of kush? ##vote koshi stop being shit. you sheep votes all day then you vote for koshi. vote for slam. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
claim in the resolution period | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote: what do you think of koshi? I doubt we will need votes on slam. he's town. vote for scum, be a good boy. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote: righttttt so basically you outright trusted Kush. k. Which even in your scenario would make kush town and therefore Slam very likely to be mafia. Chop chop. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 24 2014 22:57 Koshi wrote: No. I have brains and I have town role pm. You are lacking at least 1. Obviously. I get a bit hard when you get bitchy, I have to admit. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
there's a floater somewhere :O | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2014 00:05 kushm4sta wrote: Palmerston I only have 2 ?? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2014 00:12 kushm4sta wrote: I figured why do something tonight if I have no idea what's going on and there's no way I'm trying nk kush you're really trying to make me vote you. You have a cop check and you don't know what's going on so you don't use it? How does that even start to make sense? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2014 00:14 kushm4sta wrote: Iyou never use cop check first because then you have to reveal yourself you don't have to reveal yourself... you keep the check and have extra info to work with......... .......................................................... | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
then kush should probably rb. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2014 00:24 kushm4sta wrote: I'll vig alaka.if you want. I just really want to vig someone. your vote should be on Slam. Proceed to vote plz. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2014 00:38 Balla24 wrote: Why would scum RB kush, out of all people? It makes more sense for the RB to have been suki, but she was townreading kush before she died so that doesn't make sense either. who knows? we don't have to worry about that today though. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2014 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Did anyone even read Balla's case and how bad it is? Or Oats' case? If you can make a coherent case on Balla, that would be nice. I'm wary through sheer activity and effort tbh even though there's bad stuff (i pointed some out). Koshi is very anti-balla-scum. If you think Balla is mafia then do something convincing <3 | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
This one was your mulligan. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2014 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: But he was a suspect. For a lot of people, like basically to everyone. That hit is really weird. He was town to me t.t | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2014 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: If i was scum i'd take my chances and kill marv. Regarding expecting Palmar to die or possibly me, it's something I thought about a bit as well. It smacks of fear and inexperience on the scum team's part. Hitting fluffypuffy was weak. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
it's one reason that rayn is very unlikely to be mafia. He would know that his team would be massively behind after d1 gf lynch and would probably go for broke and hit me, and if not me, Palmar. I don't see a team with rayn on it ever hitting Puppy. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
kush can confirm another player by using his roleblock too many confirmed townies | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
I'm thinking they are, in which case you should just track someone else, because he will roleblock someone and will self-confirm | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
he has to roleblock someone like Oats If mafia don't kill Palmar then Palmar gets a track off on someone else, thus confirming someone else | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
i think kush should cop someone. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
but any green check confirms a target. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
so. if palmar tracks and kush roleblocks, then scum have to kill palmar to stop palmar confirming someone. so palmar will die. kush will confirm someone with roleblock. But the next night kush will not get a cop check off. He will only have one abilitly used. But, if Palmar tracks and kush cops. Then they still have to kill Palmar. kush probably gets a greencheck confirming someone. Then also the next night, kush can roleblock, and he can announce it in resolution period. Then we KNOW whether his target is mafia or not. so kush gets to use TWO abilities to confirm someone. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2014 09:25 marvellosity wrote: we don't worry about best case scenarios where we win quick, we worry about worst case scenarios, and we want the most information. so. if palmar tracks and kush roleblocks, then scum have to kill palmar to stop palmar confirming someone. so palmar will die. kush will confirm someone with roleblock. But the next night kush will not get a cop check off. He will only have one abilitly used. But, if Palmar tracks and kush cops. Then they still have to kill Palmar. kush probably gets a greencheck confirming someone. Then also the next night, kush can roleblock, and he can announce it in resolution period. Then we KNOW whether his target is mafia or not. so kush gets to use TWO abilities to confirm someone. this is the correct plan. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2014 09:41 Balla24 wrote: dont tell me youve never seen men in tights more than I care to mention. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
should cop into oats-balla-rayn-prplhz because why not? doesn't matter that much who as long as it isn't me or palmar, preferably not koshi either | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Palmar let us know in resolution period babes. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 25 2014 21:15 Palmar wrote: we should totally never make kush shoot as it doesn't increase the amount of town controlled kills. it's 7v1 now, tomorrow d3: 6v1. -> d4: 4v1, -> d5: 2v1. = 3 lynches if he shoots, we lose a lynch, and gain a vig shot. The only reason we should make him shoot, is if mafia no-kills or we get successful roleblock, in which case we should know scum anyway. yes we've been through this. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
it doesn't matter where the light is | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Koshi new townleader. It has been decreed. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 26 2014 01:05 marvellosity wrote: I'm 100% sheeping Koshi next cycle. Koshi new townleader. It has been decreed. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 26 2014 08:35 Palmar wrote: I rbd prplhz for no good reason. because you wanted to know if you were right about prplhz or not asap. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 26 2014 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: btw marv, your plan was bad. both kush and palmar roleblocking was the best plan. i think kush copping and palmar roleblocking was pretty correct, the 1vs2 ability thing still stands | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
??? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
this isn't complicated | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
24 hour days please | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Not 24h days please yet | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 26 2014 13:12 Oatsmaster wrote: Last post of this game, you guys totally gonna make this go to lylo and lose. if you think rayn is mafia which you apparently do, then town wins 100% because he gets lynched in time. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 26 2014 21:40 Oatsmaster wrote: that there are scum outside me/rayn/balla. so basically you mean koshi. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
be clear on what you're suggesting already. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
So Oats, if kush is mafia then he gets caught next cycle and we win, so let's assume he's town: prplhz kushm4sta marvellosity Koshi Oatsmaster Balla24 raynpelikoneet Lynch Oatsmaster and he flips town, kill kush, kush confirms rayn prplhz raynpelikoneet marvellosity Koshi Balla24 Lynch Balla and he flips town, kill prplhz raynpelikoneet marvellosity Koshi And it has to be Koshi. Or me I guess, but it's not me. And it's not Koshi. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 26 2014 22:35 Oatsmaster wrote: ohhh shit. mafia could withhold kp tmr when kush roleblocks someone and hopes that its not him. i'll take this gamble lol | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
if mafia hold KP then town gets an extra townie then kush will be able to vigilante someone without bringing lylo any closer (it will make 3-1 into 2-1) so the effect is identical | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 26 2014 21:57 marvellosity wrote: So Oats, if kush is mafia then he gets caught next cycle and we win, so let's assume he's town: prplhz kushm4sta marvellosity Koshi Oatsmaster Balla24 raynpelikoneet Lynch Oatsmaster and he flips town, prplhz kushm4sta marvellosity Koshi Balla24 raynpelikoneet Lynch raynpelikoneet (confirms kush is telling the truth), kush vigis Balla, kill prplhz kushm4sta marvellosity Koshi And it has to be Koshi. Or me I guess, but it's not me. And it's not Koshi. Bold = changes, it ends up at the same place | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 26 2014 23:12 Koshi wrote: Oats being this active as scum on D3. Has it happened? So meh. what's the point of this post? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Oats is out and out trolling | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 27 2014 01:30 Balla24 wrote: well we'll beat him in LYLO if he's scum, but you can't actually believe he's scum can you? Silly. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
this is excruciating | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 28 2014 01:02 Oatsmaster wrote: well I was knowingly not on 0 scums, does that make a difference? wat | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
may this be your lesson from this game if you are town. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Well, now look what's happening. Yeah. You dead. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
If you don't wanna get lynched, how about you come up with good reason for someone else to be mafia? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 28 2014 01:38 kushm4sta wrote: What is it? Everyone gets lynched except me(koshi) and confirmed people because you can confirm someone tonight if Oats is town. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
roleblock. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
:D | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 28 2014 17:57 Koshi wrote: If Kush dies and he took a townie with him. VOTE FOR 96H DAYS. I am not fucking kidding. Do not go for 24h days. Drag this game out. As long as you possibly can. hahahaha <3 | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 28 2014 18:58 Koshi wrote: marv don't you think it is Kush? He really did completely nothing this game. 3 JoaTs is kinda strong not? Especially with 2 vigs. I think 2 JOATs is really weak in a 9-3 setup (remember this is significantly worse than the normal 10-3) - that's two blues who can only perform 4 actions between them in the entire game, versus godfather, roleblocker.... but maybe with 2 vigis... I dunno. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On February 28 2014 19:38 Koshi wrote: meh it's not me. Pinkie swear status not. It's like insanely obvious tbh. BUT IT'S NOT 100% LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Subject: You're so sexy Date: 2/25/14 02:04 LMAO at you fooling all those scrubs by bussing your buddies. Bring it home sexpot <3 | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
just make sure you announce your rb in resolution. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On March 01 2014 02:31 Balla24 wrote: oh yes it's pretty much a waste of time and we should never have started with this plan and just continued playing like normal ^_^, but that's what happens when all the JoaTs claim I guess incorrect. the plan is the way to win. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
as you well know | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Then kush could be mafia but it's not sure, and suddenly there are 3 targets in rayn, balla, kush and only 2 lynches. in this case the correct play is actually to lynch not-kush. It will be 3-1 going into night. Then we tell kush to shoot the other target. If kush is town the other target dies and town wins. If kush is mafia then there will be no vigi and we lynch kush. the reason it wouldn't be sure that kush is mafia is that the last mafia knows his only chance is to kill the person kush is roleblocking in the scenario that kush is not mafia in order to stand even a miniscule chance. however the vigilante plan deals with that and regardless everyone gets confirmed/dead. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
| ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
edit:WaveofShadowPerson was signed in when posted 02-25-2014 06:41 PM ET (US) /m171 I really hope they do right now. I can't understand for the life of me why they are assuming kush is town. yeah, because if he's mafia it becomes obvious very quickly, so there's no point thinking about it. I explained this plenty edit 2: don't know why host didn't call the end of the game earlier tbh. Made the end boring when the result was 100% set in stone. At the very least on the night I died, there was zero reason to play out the next 48 hours. Absolutely zero. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
re: rayn, mafia rarely behave like enraging children. like if someone who knows rayn as well as me tells you he is town (and the BttB example was perfect, as much as you disagreed on the specifics) and players like Koshi+Palmar don't disagree... then either you have an amazing read that a bunch of players who know the dude in question simply don't share somehow, or you're incorrect. Chances are it's the latter in the large majority of cases | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On March 04 2014 05:14 Koshi wrote: Kush should always have been scum in this game. Somewhat sad we lynched Oats over Kush. I knew it d2 but that claim just made him unlychable for me. I dont know if that is the correct play. But the claim dropped him to 1% scum for d3 while failing to do a night action made it 99% again for d4. I agree with marv this was correct town play. But obs qt wanted to see kush lynch sooner. I gained considerable satisfaction lynching Oats, so for me it was the right play ;p | ||
| ||