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suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 16:22 GMT
#1841
In Day 1 I seriously spent like an hour and a half trying to make multiple cases on you, but every time I tried the cases fell flat. So I concluded you must be town.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 22 2014 16:23 GMT
#1842
So you don't find anything Palmar has done good? Like the fact that he did want to lynch Toad and didn't push any other lynch?
table for two on a tv tray
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 16:23 GMT
#1843
I think mafia can do that. Palmar wasn't the one who started the wagon against toad after all.

Is that the only reason he's town?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 22 2014 16:24 GMT
#1844
I am pretty sure noone but marv could find any good reasons why i am mafia if i was mafia. It has never happened before.
table for two on a tv tray
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 16:24 GMT
#1845
I've had a town read on Palmar this whole game, but it just strikes me as really bad play that he still thinks I'm scum.
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 22 2014 16:24 GMT
#1846
On February 23 2014 01:22 suki wrote:
It's funny because I picked up on that too, but I found your dealings with toad more likely to come from town rayn, and your exchange with balla looks really good, and just a bunch of other things that made me decide you were town.

Is this a read you made yourself or is this something you're taking marv's word for?
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 16:24 GMT
#1847
On February 23 2014 01:24 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 01:22 suki wrote:
It's funny because I picked up on that too, but I found your dealings with toad more likely to come from town rayn, and your exchange with balla looks really good, and just a bunch of other things that made me decide you were town.

Is this a read you made yourself or is this something you're taking marv's word for?


I made the read myself. Seriously.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 22 2014 16:25 GMT
#1848
On February 23 2014 01:23 suki wrote:
I think mafia can do that. Palmar wasn't the one who started the wagon against toad after all.

Is that the only reason he's town?

Yes. I don't know what would be a better reason than "lynched mafia godfather on D1 and didn't push any other case".
table for two on a tv tray
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 16:26 GMT
#1849
So Palmar is town and he's just straight up wrong on me?
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 22 2014 16:26 GMT
#1850
On February 23 2014 01:24 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 01:24 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
On February 23 2014 01:22 suki wrote:
It's funny because I picked up on that too, but I found your dealings with toad more likely to come from town rayn, and your exchange with balla looks really good, and just a bunch of other things that made me decide you were town.

Is this a read you made yourself or is this something you're taking marv's word for?


I made the read myself. Seriously.

I like this answer. Quick, decisive and confident.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 16:27 GMT
#1851
I mean mafia does crazy things all the time. Marv pulled shenanigans Day 1 and bussed sandroba and that lead them to victory because no one thought that scum would do that.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 22 2014 16:27 GMT
#1852
On February 23 2014 01:26 suki wrote:
So Palmar is town and he's just straight up wrong on me?

maybe. or he is right. that's kinda wifom'y reasoning for him to be mafia.
also your other reads are same like.
table for two on a tv tray
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 16:27 GMT
#1853
EBWOP: In Shadow mafia
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 22 2014 16:29 GMT
#1854
On February 23 2014 01:26 suki wrote:
So Palmar is town and he's just straight up wrong on me?

Palmar hasn't put serious effort in since ever in this game. He's not trying to influence the game in any mafia like fashion. I don't think Day 1 would've been a clear wash on Toad if he was scum. I don't think Mafia had much thread presence at all.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 22 2014 16:30 GMT
#1855
On February 23 2014 01:27 suki wrote:
I mean mafia does crazy things all the time. Marv pulled shenanigans Day 1 and bussed sandroba and that lead them to victory because no one thought that scum would do that.

It's entirely different thing to lynch your scumbuddy who will most likely get lynched anyways later on because they are incapable of playing mafia aligned then to lynch a godfather from the start and not even try to do anything about it all D1.
table for two on a tv tray
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 16:31 GMT
#1856
Mafia pushing one lynch on Day 1 and no other leaves a lot of wiggle room to target people on following days, with the additional benefit of having massive town cred.

I'm not saying Palmar plays like this, or that even good players play like this. I know I'm outclassed this game and one of the reasons people don't like me is because my cases are bad, but that's my current skill level. I'm just throwing out ideas because at the moment, I find it very unlikely that the rest of mafia is within Balla, kush and slam. If it turns out that only one mafia is in that group, that means that one of the very active players in this game is scum.

And maybe this is self-centered but Palmar has been suspicious of me this entire game with no change in attitude and I find this very weird, because almost everyone else has had fluid views on me. So that is why I want to know why Palmar is town.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 16:33 GMT
#1857
On February 23 2014 01:29 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 01:26 suki wrote:
So Palmar is town and he's just straight up wrong on me?

Palmar hasn't put serious effort in since ever in this game. He's not trying to influence the game in any mafia like fashion. I don't think Day 1 would've been a clear wash on Toad if he was scum. I don't think Mafia had much thread presence at all.


On February 23 2014 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 01:27 suki wrote:
I mean mafia does crazy things all the time. Marv pulled shenanigans Day 1 and bussed sandroba and that lead them to victory because no one thought that scum would do that.

It's entirely different thing to lynch your scumbuddy who will most likely get lynched anyways later on because they are incapable of playing mafia aligned then to lynch a godfather from the start and not even try to do anything about it all D1.


I like these two points. If it's true that Mafia has no thread presence, then maybe the rest of mafia ARE in Balla/kush/slam and maybe oats.
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 22 2014 16:34 GMT
#1858
Suki have you revisited prplhz at all? I haven't but I haven't seen him do anything in the thread in quite some time and it's worrying me.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 16:35 GMT
#1859
I haven't because I really liked his early game and our thought patterns lined up so I thought hey he's thinking like me, therefore he must be town.

...

Actually prplhz is a good player right? If he's thinking like me, and my thought pattern is bad, then he was playing bad, so then he's scum? lol.
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 22 2014 16:37 GMT
#1860
I'm worried because in the early game he was very active but as Toad was caught he's starting to do less and less. Could be demotivation.
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