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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 21 2014 11:23 GMT
#1001
On February 21 2014 20:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 20:15 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:11 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:09 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:04 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 19:54 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm calling you a liar because you're a liar. I've got you in my bottom 5 people if that makes you happy. I wouldn't exactly call that townie and if you look through my filter you'll actually find me mentioning you doing weird shit like that a lot.
I don't have a case on you so I'm left with that, especially since I still think Balla's an awesome lynch for today.

If you are calling me an outright liar and you are town, then I am 100% mafia to you.

But you're not doing that.

Cos you're mafia

that's because the first 2 attempts could have been retardation while the 3rd attempt happened when I wasn't in here and I just got back

Btw marv, seems like your point about how I frequently played with rayn is, yes I know you didn't phrase it like that but it sure did read like that, I wasn't the only one reading it that way and it did feel like a poor attempt to paint me as mafia was considered to be bullshit by most people as well. At the least rayn, NotVixax and I all called it complete bullshit, yet you're boasting about how it's been so awesome and right...


How much more do I need to call you mafia? I got here 10 minutes ago and found you sprouting bullshit about me again. I'm not going to yolo-vote you and call you 100% certain mafia without rechecking your filter

That isn't calling me mafia though. That's dancing around calling me mafia.

Pretty massive difference. Btw you said "bottom 5" and now you're trying to argue you're calling me mafia. You suck.

read the fucking post
I got here 10 minutes ago and found you sprouting bullshit about me again. I'm not going to yolo-vote you and call you 100% certain mafia without rechecking your filter

Like this is the 4th time I mention this but I apparently have to: I specifically mentioned that I will try to not play as hypno-toad and will play more thought through so no I'[b]m not going to call you 100% mafia without a second of a thought or any checking up on it because that's EXACTLY what I'm trying to get rid off.


marv isn't wrong though.

If you say he knows he's lying, marv is scum. Townies don't lie to get people lynched.


Okay, you know I said I want to play more thought-out and I said I'd so pregame, correct?

Have you ever tried to get rid of a mistake you're doing repeatedly? Anything. Playing golf and your swing is to much from the outside? Playing trombone and you always get that one note wrong because you think it's an F and not something else?

What do you do to get rid of it? You do the opposite and start out with exaggerating it to get a feeling for it. Because if you're trying to get rid of it by playing "normal" chances are you're still WAY wrong and not enough in the right direction, it just feels normal to you because you're so used to your mistake.

So no I'm not going to call him mafia without rechecking his filter if my attempt is to get rid of exactly that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 21 2014 11:26 GMT
#1002
On February 21 2014 20:23 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 20:18 Palmar wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:15 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:11 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:09 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:04 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 19:54 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm calling you a liar because you're a liar. I've got you in my bottom 5 people if that makes you happy. I wouldn't exactly call that townie and if you look through my filter you'll actually find me mentioning you doing weird shit like that a lot.
I don't have a case on you so I'm left with that, especially since I still think Balla's an awesome lynch for today.

If you are calling me an outright liar and you are town, then I am 100% mafia to you.

But you're not doing that.

Cos you're mafia

that's because the first 2 attempts could have been retardation while the 3rd attempt happened when I wasn't in here and I just got back

Btw marv, seems like your point about how I frequently played with rayn is, yes I know you didn't phrase it like that but it sure did read like that, I wasn't the only one reading it that way and it did feel like a poor attempt to paint me as mafia was considered to be bullshit by most people as well. At the least rayn, NotVixax and I all called it complete bullshit, yet you're boasting about how it's been so awesome and right...


How much more do I need to call you mafia? I got here 10 minutes ago and found you sprouting bullshit about me again. I'm not going to yolo-vote you and call you 100% certain mafia without rechecking your filter

That isn't calling me mafia though. That's dancing around calling me mafia.

Pretty massive difference. Btw you said "bottom 5" and now you're trying to argue you're calling me mafia. You suck.

read the fucking post
I got here 10 minutes ago and found you sprouting bullshit about me again. I'm not going to yolo-vote you and call you 100% certain mafia without rechecking your filter

Like this is the 4th time I mention this but I apparently have to: I specifically mentioned that I will try to not play as hypno-toad and will play more thought through so no I'[b]m not going to call you 100% mafia without a second of a thought or any checking up on it because that's EXACTLY what I'm trying to get rid off.


marv isn't wrong though.

If you say he knows he's lying, marv is scum. Townies don't lie to get people lynched.


Okay, you know I said I want to play more thought-out and I said I'd so pregame, correct?

Have you ever tried to get rid of a mistake you're doing repeatedly? Anything. Playing golf and your swing is to much from the outside? Playing trombone and you always get that one note wrong because you think it's an F and not something else?

What do you do to get rid of it? You do the opposite and start out with exaggerating it to get a feeling for it. Because if you're trying to get rid of it by playing "normal" chances are you're still WAY wrong and not enough in the right direction, it just feels normal to you because you're so used to your mistake.

So no I'm not going to call him mafia without rechecking his filter if my attempt is to get rid of exactly that.

Toad, you can't excuse "trying to play differently" with not thinking someone is 100% mafia who keeps lying about you to get you lynched.

Some things just don't change, and that's one of them.

Do you know why? Because 0 townies in the history of mafia have lied repeatedly to get someone lynched. That's not something you "fix", that's self-evidently true.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 21 2014 11:27 GMT
#1003
On February 21 2014 20:23 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 20:18 Palmar wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:15 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:11 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:09 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:04 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 19:54 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm calling you a liar because you're a liar. I've got you in my bottom 5 people if that makes you happy. I wouldn't exactly call that townie and if you look through my filter you'll actually find me mentioning you doing weird shit like that a lot.
I don't have a case on you so I'm left with that, especially since I still think Balla's an awesome lynch for today.

If you are calling me an outright liar and you are town, then I am 100% mafia to you.

But you're not doing that.

Cos you're mafia

that's because the first 2 attempts could have been retardation while the 3rd attempt happened when I wasn't in here and I just got back

Btw marv, seems like your point about how I frequently played with rayn is, yes I know you didn't phrase it like that but it sure did read like that, I wasn't the only one reading it that way and it did feel like a poor attempt to paint me as mafia was considered to be bullshit by most people as well. At the least rayn, NotVixax and I all called it complete bullshit, yet you're boasting about how it's been so awesome and right...


How much more do I need to call you mafia? I got here 10 minutes ago and found you sprouting bullshit about me again. I'm not going to yolo-vote you and call you 100% certain mafia without rechecking your filter

That isn't calling me mafia though. That's dancing around calling me mafia.

Pretty massive difference. Btw you said "bottom 5" and now you're trying to argue you're calling me mafia. You suck.

read the fucking post
I got here 10 minutes ago and found you sprouting bullshit about me again. I'm not going to yolo-vote you and call you 100% certain mafia without rechecking your filter

Like this is the 4th time I mention this but I apparently have to: I specifically mentioned that I will try to not play as hypno-toad and will play more thought through so no I'm not going to call you 100% mafia without a second of a thought or any checking up on it because that's EXACTLY what I'm trying to get rid off.


marv isn't wrong though.

If you say he knows he's lying, marv is scum. Townies don't lie to get people lynched.

Have you ever tried to get rid of a mistake you're doing repeatedly?


What is this mistake thing? Is it a disease?

Go away then, read marv's filter and figure out [b]WHY he is in your opinion wrong on you. Either he is wrong because he's lying and thus must be scum, or he's horribly mistaken.

You need to explain that.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 21 2014 11:28 GMT
#1004
On February 21 2014 20:22 marvellosity wrote:
you've had some bad luck quoting people with broken tags this game Palmar


Those last ones are on me actually, I was cutting up posts.
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 11:29 GMT
#1005
Can we let Toad say things that are not marv related? We all know marv is town? It's never going to end well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 21 2014 11:29 GMT
#1006
Marv there isn't enough scum in this game. We need to fix this.

I was thinking of writing a classic Palmar list style post, I actually have it ready, but the problem is I only have one person in the Scum group, and 2 people in vigipls group.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 21 2014 11:30 GMT
#1007
On February 21 2014 20:29 Palmar wrote:
Marv there isn't enough scum in this game. We need to fix this.

I was thinking of writing a classic Palmar list style post, I actually have it ready, but the problem is I only have one person in the Scum group, and 2 people in vigipls group.

<3

I'm glad you thought this. When I went to bed last night I thought maybe sidesprang is mafia after all, because I wasn't sure who the other 2 mafia were supposed to be.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 11:30 GMT
#1008
It better not be the Koshi.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 21 2014 11:32 GMT
#1009
Koshi you're actually in my "idk" tier

But you're one of the more scummy ones in that tier, specifically because of what prplhz pointed out. Although today you've been very much not scumkosher so idk. Yesterday I'd have stuck you in "maybe scum" tier.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 21 2014 11:34 GMT
#1010
On February 21 2014 09:00 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Pg 28-30
Suki suspects Koshi for the same things I do. Makes me feel good about her. I disagree with the talk around it as it's the way Koshi represents himself that is so conscious that I feel it has to be intentional. He's aware of how the posts he makes will be read and thus posts them as such.

The pretending of Koshi to have a serious reason to vote Balla does seem town to me though. There was an active intent to try and get a read on Suki using a plan. Thinking about that I'm coming around to Koshi. The times I've ever seen scum fake making a trap and then springing it have been very rare, and this was an on the fly thing.
##Unvote
##Vote CuteFluffyPuppy


Not sure what to think right now.

This is kinda annoying because it looks quite town.

Seems a rather convoluted play to go make a case on Koshi and then "remember" something Koshi did earlier and decide he's not mafia for it after all, all within a single set of catchup posts.

I suppose the flip opinion might be that as he read through the thread it looked like influential players weren't keen on the Koshi thing and suki got a lot of heat for her Koshi case.

So now I'm not so sure as when I started this post.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 11:35 GMT
#1011
How is it scummy that I said I was ok with the plan but didn't know what the plan is. While I probably meant I wasn't 100% sure what the plan was.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 11:36 GMT
#1012
On February 21 2014 20:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 09:00 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Pg 28-30
Suki suspects Koshi for the same things I do. Makes me feel good about her. I disagree with the talk around it as it's the way Koshi represents himself that is so conscious that I feel it has to be intentional. He's aware of how the posts he makes will be read and thus posts them as such.

The pretending of Koshi to have a serious reason to vote Balla does seem town to me though. There was an active intent to try and get a read on Suki using a plan. Thinking about that I'm coming around to Koshi. The times I've ever seen scum fake making a trap and then springing it have been very rare, and this was an on the fly thing.
##Unvote
##Vote CuteFluffyPuppy


Not sure what to think right now.

This is kinda annoying because it looks quite town.

Seems a rather convoluted play to go make a case on Koshi and then "remember" something Koshi did earlier and decide he's not mafia for it after all, all within a single set of catchup posts.

I suppose the flip opinion might be that as he read through the thread it looked like influential players weren't keen on the Koshi thing and suki got a lot of heat for her Koshi case.

So now I'm not so sure as when I started this post.

Exactly how my post on the possible Stray Kitten turned out.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 21 2014 11:37 GMT
#1013
Btw, I don't think Kush is scum, or at least I think there isn't enough evidence. If it wasn't for sidesprang and Oats I'd suggest him as a good vigipls target tonight.

He made a few good comments, and that is sorta consistent with what I'd expect from town kush. Maybe I'm short-selling him because I think kush is one of the worst players on TL, but meh. If he does _anything_ non-useless at all he gets town points.

I voted him just to see what would happen.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 21 2014 11:40 GMT
#1014
Btw @Koshi:

I have 4 people in my two "town-tiers". Three of them are prplhz, marv and I. you get extra town points if you're attentive enough about me (you should be, you said I'm scum) go guess the fourth person.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 21 2014 11:40 GMT
#1015
ok, just carrying on looking through Smurf's filter. The biggest problem I have at the end of it is that after all his catchup posts he actually has no conclusions about anything, at all.

I have no real idea what Smurf thinks about anything.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 21 2014 11:41 GMT
#1016
I know who it is Palmar and it's not helping you discuss this with me :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 11:44 GMT
#1017
On February 21 2014 20:40 Palmar wrote:
Btw @Koshi:

I have 4 people in my two "town-tiers". Three of them are prplhz, marv and I. you get extra town points if you're attentive enough about me (you should be, you said I'm scum) go guess the fourth person.

it better be rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 11:45 GMT
#1018
And people that put themselves in their lists are silly. Many people do this silly thing though.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 21 2014 11:45 GMT
#1019
On February 21 2014 20:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 20:40 Palmar wrote:
Btw @Koshi:

I have 4 people in my two "town-tiers". Three of them are prplhz, marv and I. you get extra town points if you're attentive enough about me (you should be, you said I'm scum) go guess the fourth person.

it better be rayn.

Do you think rayn calling me mafia is townie, Koshi? why else do you have him solid town now?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 11:50 GMT
#1020
On February 21 2014 20:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 20:44 Koshi wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:40 Palmar wrote:
Btw @Koshi:

I have 4 people in my two "town-tiers". Three of them are prplhz, marv and I. you get extra town points if you're attentive enough about me (you should be, you said I'm scum) go guess the fourth person.

it better be rayn.

Do you think rayn calling me mafia is townie, Koshi? why else do you have him solid town now?

Biggest filter & Driven.
Calling you mafia does not make him mafia even if you say he does it when he is mafia. Not this game. He was also too smug about it. Is he normally smug about it?
I had a good night of sleep.
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