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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 24 2014 20:43 GMT
#2541
On February 25 2014 05:29 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You actually did the same thing with me on D1. You assume you know what my reasoning behind something is, and defend me for it. When i call you out on that (because that's what you do as mafia), you start attacking me. Fishy fucking much?


Look dude, what do you want me to do? You dropped a vote on marv completely unexplained, I tried to understand what you were doing and I posted it in the thread, I wasn't defending you whatsoever. I thought I saw what you were doing and it turned out it wasnt that at all, so when you start going ham off of it then it shoots off red bells for me because I didn't expect you to do that whatsoever.

Well i thought suki was mafia. marv thought suki was mafia. i know how marv operates and he seemed to be operating like he does as scum, having someone as a scumread and not talking with them. Hell he even said later on that's what he does as town (if he finds someone scummy he questions them more to find out if they are actyually scum or not). marv to me didn't seem like he was interested in questioning suki about her scummy stuff, but instead said "well i'll go see if i find something townie". .That's what i saw.

Now why do i need to make all these posts again because i have explained all this?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 24 2014 20:43 GMT
#2542
Okay that wording was confusing, hope you get what i am trying to say.
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 24 2014 20:45 GMT
#2543
On February 25 2014 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Maybe you are telling the truth Balla and just missed all those posts. Who knows.

I mean, maybe i'm self-centered but some of the stuff was easy to miss, especially the reasoning for town reading kush since I was very interested in that and it was offered up in response to CFP and not me as a one liner. I still think this would have been much easier if you would have just said to me

"Hey Balla, I already explain so and so in response to so and so here:

--quote-

If you want further explanation i'd be happy to explain"

instead of letting me rip my hair out every time i asked you anything T_T
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 24 2014 20:46 GMT
#2544
Like here:
rayn: "suki is mafia because of xyz"
marv: "yeah, suki might be mafia"
marv: "hmm i gotta go read the balla/suki exchange at the start of the game (which i maybe did not pay much/enough attention) earlier"
marv: "when i think someone is scummy i question them a lot about their posts" - (this is what i already knew)

didn't look like town!marv to me.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 24 2014 20:46 GMT
#2545
but rayn, it is literally 100% impossible for me to post that much as mafia. Don't ever make that mistake again, I'll be annoyed.

This one was your mulligan.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 24 2014 20:47 GMT
#2546
I put shit off all the time as town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 24 2014 20:48 GMT
#2547
On February 25 2014 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
but rayn, it is literally 100% impossible for me to post that much as mafia. Don't ever make that mistake again, I'll be annoyed.

This one was your mulligan.

Well tbh about half of your posts in the first 14 pages of your filter are crap.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 24 2014 20:48 GMT
#2548
of course they're crap. they're always crap. still can't do it as scum :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 24 2014 20:49 GMT
#2549
On February 25 2014 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 05:29 Balla24 wrote:
On February 25 2014 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You actually did the same thing with me on D1. You assume you know what my reasoning behind something is, and defend me for it. When i call you out on that (because that's what you do as mafia), you start attacking me. Fishy fucking much?


Look dude, what do you want me to do? You dropped a vote on marv completely unexplained, I tried to understand what you were doing and I posted it in the thread, I wasn't defending you whatsoever. I thought I saw what you were doing and it turned out it wasnt that at all, so when you start going ham off of it then it shoots off red bells for me because I didn't expect you to do that whatsoever.

Well i thought suki was mafia. marv thought suki was mafia. i know how marv operates and he seemed to be operating like he does as scum, having someone as a scumread and not talking with them. Hell he even said later on that's what he does as town (if he finds someone scummy he questions them more to find out if they are actyually scum or not). marv to me didn't seem like he was interested in questioning suki about her scummy stuff, but instead said "well i'll go see if i find something townie". .That's what i saw.

Now why do i need to make all these posts again because i have explained all this?


Totally understood, now understand my PoV:

What you see about marv to me, is very very little and is pretty circumstantial. It might be on purpose it might not be, I can't tell. So when you go ham about it and disregard everything you said about toad before because you think marv is mafia and marv is trying to get toad lynched. It doesn't make sense to me, maybe it's because we have a different approach to the game or something but I wouldn't do that at all.

Toad looks scummy, marv has something that could be scummy as well, I would point it out and question marv about it then try to decide which of marv or toad looks scummier instead of flipping my reads like that off of something so small.

Does this make sense?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 24 2014 20:53 GMT
#2550
On February 25 2014 05:49 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 25 2014 05:29 Balla24 wrote:
On February 25 2014 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You actually did the same thing with me on D1. You assume you know what my reasoning behind something is, and defend me for it. When i call you out on that (because that's what you do as mafia), you start attacking me. Fishy fucking much?


Look dude, what do you want me to do? You dropped a vote on marv completely unexplained, I tried to understand what you were doing and I posted it in the thread, I wasn't defending you whatsoever. I thought I saw what you were doing and it turned out it wasnt that at all, so when you start going ham off of it then it shoots off red bells for me because I didn't expect you to do that whatsoever.

Well i thought suki was mafia. marv thought suki was mafia. i know how marv operates and he seemed to be operating like he does as scum, having someone as a scumread and not talking with them. Hell he even said later on that's what he does as town (if he finds someone scummy he questions them more to find out if they are actyually scum or not). marv to me didn't seem like he was interested in questioning suki about her scummy stuff, but instead said "well i'll go see if i find something townie". .That's what i saw.

Now why do i need to make all these posts again because i have explained all this?


Totally understood, now understand my PoV:

What you see about marv to me, is very very little and is pretty circumstantial. It might be on purpose it might not be, I can't tell. So when you go ham about it and disregard everything you said about toad before because you think marv is mafia and marv is trying to get toad lynched. It doesn't make sense to me, maybe it's because we have a different approach to the game or something but I wouldn't do that at all.

Toad looks scummy, marv has something that could be scummy as well, I would point it out and question marv about it then try to decide which of marv or toad looks scummier instead of flipping my reads like that off of something so small.

Does this make sense?

Yes i am not arguing you are not making sense from any point of view.
I am arguing that i can't argue about this because there is nothing to argue about. I am also arguing that i find it weird that you question me about things i have already explained, and that is your case.

You can't make a case based on "this doesn't make sense to me" if i have explained my reasoning behind those things. You should make a case "this is what he did, this is why, and this is why it does not make sense from town pov".

That's why the case is bad and that's why there is nothing to argue about.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 24 2014 20:56 GMT
#2551
It's the easiest thing as mafia to say someone did something that looks like a contradiction or stupid and just say "this is why he is scum". The hard thing is to twist something someone did as town to look like it's mafia motivated because it can't be so.

So again, whatever have i done, why as mafia?
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 24 2014 20:58 GMT
#2552
On February 25 2014 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 05:49 Balla24 wrote:
On February 25 2014 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 25 2014 05:29 Balla24 wrote:
On February 25 2014 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You actually did the same thing with me on D1. You assume you know what my reasoning behind something is, and defend me for it. When i call you out on that (because that's what you do as mafia), you start attacking me. Fishy fucking much?


Look dude, what do you want me to do? You dropped a vote on marv completely unexplained, I tried to understand what you were doing and I posted it in the thread, I wasn't defending you whatsoever. I thought I saw what you were doing and it turned out it wasnt that at all, so when you start going ham off of it then it shoots off red bells for me because I didn't expect you to do that whatsoever.

Well i thought suki was mafia. marv thought suki was mafia. i know how marv operates and he seemed to be operating like he does as scum, having someone as a scumread and not talking with them. Hell he even said later on that's what he does as town (if he finds someone scummy he questions them more to find out if they are actyually scum or not). marv to me didn't seem like he was interested in questioning suki about her scummy stuff, but instead said "well i'll go see if i find something townie". .That's what i saw.

Now why do i need to make all these posts again because i have explained all this?


Totally understood, now understand my PoV:

What you see about marv to me, is very very little and is pretty circumstantial. It might be on purpose it might not be, I can't tell. So when you go ham about it and disregard everything you said about toad before because you think marv is mafia and marv is trying to get toad lynched. It doesn't make sense to me, maybe it's because we have a different approach to the game or something but I wouldn't do that at all.

Toad looks scummy, marv has something that could be scummy as well, I would point it out and question marv about it then try to decide which of marv or toad looks scummier instead of flipping my reads like that off of something so small.

Does this make sense?

Yes i am not arguing you are not making sense from any point of view.
I am arguing that i can't argue about this because there is nothing to argue about. I am also arguing that i find it weird that you question me about things i have already explained, and that is your case.

You can't make a case based on "this doesn't make sense to me" if i have explained my reasoning behind those things. You should make a case "this is what he did, this is why, and this is why it does not make sense from town pov".

That's why the case is bad and that's why there is nothing to argue about.


And what i'm saying is that when someone is missing an explanation of something and misrepresenting what you said then as town it is your responsibility to show them what they are missing and how they are misrepresenting you. Sure it's their fault for doing it in the first place but it doesn't make them scum and if you can maybe help them get to a point where they think you are not scum anymore then you can join forces and become scum hunting machines instead of just breathing down each other's throats and killing the thread atmosphere like we did T_T

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 24 2014 21:01 GMT
#2553
you're a qtpie Balla, you can stay
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 24 2014 21:02 GMT
#2554
thanks hon
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 24 2014 21:07 GMT
#2555
I am really worried about the fact that marv dies tonight and one of Oats/Slam is town and people will never lynch prplhz.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 24 2014 21:09 GMT
#2556
Yes Balla, i know, and that's what i lack. I hate things i find stupid and that's my fault.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 24 2014 21:10 GMT
#2557
On February 25 2014 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am really worried about the fact that marv dies tonight and one of Oats/Slam is town and people will never lynch prplhz.

EBWOP: I don't think it's a fact one of Oats/Slam is town, to clarify.
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 24 2014 21:11 GMT
#2558
I would not never lynched prplhz. Everything I said about him on D1 has completely turned on n1 and d2. The guy has really done nothing since then and isn't trying to move in any pro-town directions like he was in the early game.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 24 2014 21:12 GMT
#2559
The nightkill was really weird. I don't know what does it mean because the only people who pushed Balla at the start of the day were me and marv, we are both town and i don't remember any other reason why Smurf was hit than Balla = mafia or Balla = framed as mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 24 2014 21:15 GMT
#2560
Oh fuck he actually called Balla town and was interested in prplhz/Slam/kush.
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