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On February 20 2014 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:38 Toadesstern wrote:On February 20 2014 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 20 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
I agree with what prplhz is saying, and to the extend that I don't understand why people care where votes are parked. It's completely irrelevant, there is no pressure in a vote that isn't being actively pushed as a lynch target. No one cares. I have no idea why rayn seems to think we need a plan to address that non-problem. It's an extremely bad opening discussion point and serves no purpose. Do you agree with prplhz's vote on me? Actually this goes to everyone. If you read my posts, you'll find that I actually said the exact same thing and that I as well have my vote on you. So yes. So why is your vote not on me?
On February 20 2014 08:57 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:The quoted below is in addition to votes cast on D1 correct?On day 1 each player will be randomly assigned a vote on someone else. No one will have more than 3 votes on them to begin with.
##vote: raynpelikoneetI have a plan and i am not sure if this is the best plan because i have not thought it through from every angle yet but does anyone know what i am doing? sounds good to me, I like this ##vote: raynpelikoneet
I didn't feel the need to vote myself and revote you for a more dramatic expression of my desire to get you lynched.
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Palmar, especially you, i would like you to weigh the possibilities of what's my motivation behind my posts and give me your read on me. Read carefully and think.
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On February 20 2014 09:42 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When marv comes in, he'll explain my posts to everyone. Trust me, he has do to that, even as mafia. Then we lynch mafia. How about you explain your idea yourself? I mean I posted the two options I saw, but you can probably elaborate better than I on your intentions.
Now this is the point. I already did. Why are you not reading?
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This game is above my paygrade atm.
Sleep time.
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I agree that finding a way to 'unvote' is stupid. I don't think it makes me lean scum or town on rayn either way.
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On February 20 2014 09:45 Koshi wrote:
This game is above my paygrade atm.
Sleep time.
Don't worry just sheep me. I won't let you down.
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On February 20 2014 09:43 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:39 Palmar wrote:
The important part here is why rayn created the plan. If he's town I see two options, he either thought it was a good controversial move to start discussion, or he actually believes idle shitvotes randomly assigned by the host actually mean something.
If he's scum, it's a fantastic way of saying things without actually contributing anything to the game. I also don't know why his first post didn't simply lay out his plan, but instead left it up to guesswork by the rest of us. But I don't know if that says anything about his alignment. So basically he could be town or scum for it and all you've done is waffle things that have either already been posted or could be extrapolated within a second.
I haven't actually waffled, I simply haven't made a decision.
On February 20 2014 09:43 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:40 Palmar wrote:On February 20 2014 09:39 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:On February 20 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
I agree with what prplhz is saying, and to the extend that I don't understand why people care where votes are parked. It's completely irrelevant, there is no pressure in a vote that isn't being actively pushed as a lynch target. No one cares. I have no idea why rayn seems to think we need a plan to address that non-problem. It's an extremely bad opening discussion point and serves no purpose. Do you think Rayn is scum for it? You're saying it's pointless and you have no idea why he's talking about it, yet you continue to talk about it without asking any questions or having any follow up in your post. Everything you've said has already been said too. What is this post meant to accomplish? I don't know if he's scum because of it. We have plenty of time to figure it out. I was basically explaining where I stand. But your post said nothing prplhz hasn't already said. You've given your thoughts on this and your conclusion was that it's a null tell, or you haven't followed up on it with any questions geared towards Rayn. Why did you feel the need to address this from all the things in the thread when you both consider it useless and don't come to a conclusion from it?
I don't think you can reach a conclusion from it. On it's own it's not enough to say he's scum. That doesn't mean I'm going to shy away from talking about it.
Also I don't think what we're discussing now is useless. I think the plan itself was useless, but discussing the thought process that made rayn come up with the plan is extremely useful.
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On February 20 2014 09:46 suki wrote:
I agree that finding a way to 'unvote' is stupid. I don't think it makes me lean scum or town on rayn either way.
So what do you think. Is that all you see in my posts? Because if it is and you are right then i am pretty surely mafia because i am not some random noob who says irrelevant stuff as town.
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On February 20 2014 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:45 Koshi wrote:
This game is above my paygrade atm.
Sleep time. Don't worry just sheep me. I won't let you down.
Do I vote for you or on myself?
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On February 20 2014 09:48 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 20 2014 09:45 Koshi wrote:
This game is above my paygrade atm.
Sleep time. Don't worry just sheep me. I won't let you down. Do I vote for you or on myself?
I'll tell you who to vote for later. You could help too. 
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On February 20 2014 09:46 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:43 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:On February 20 2014 09:39 Palmar wrote:
The important part here is why rayn created the plan. If he's town I see two options, he either thought it was a good controversial move to start discussion, or he actually believes idle shitvotes randomly assigned by the host actually mean something.
If he's scum, it's a fantastic way of saying things without actually contributing anything to the game. I also don't know why his first post didn't simply lay out his plan, but instead left it up to guesswork by the rest of us. But I don't know if that says anything about his alignment. So basically he could be town or scum for it and all you've done is waffle things that have either already been posted or could be extrapolated within a second. I haven't actually waffled, I simply haven't made a decision.
You have pointed out something that had already been pointed out and didn't conclude anything alignment indicative from it, nor did you attempt to inquire further into Rayn until I and Rayn called you out on it.
On February 20 2014 09:43 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:40 Palmar wrote:On February 20 2014 09:39 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:On February 20 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
I agree with what prplhz is saying, and to the extend that I don't understand why people care where votes are parked. It's completely irrelevant, there is no pressure in a vote that isn't being actively pushed as a lynch target. No one cares. I have no idea why rayn seems to think we need a plan to address that non-problem. It's an extremely bad opening discussion point and serves no purpose. Do you think Rayn is scum for it? You're saying it's pointless and you have no idea why he's talking about it, yet you continue to talk about it without asking any questions or having any follow up in your post. Everything you've said has already been said too. What is this post meant to accomplish? I don't know if he's scum because of it. We have plenty of time to figure it out. I was basically explaining where I stand. But your post said nothing prplhz hasn't already said. You've given your thoughts on this and your conclusion was that it's a null tell, or you haven't followed up on it with any questions geared towards Rayn. Why did you feel the need to address this from all the things in the thread when you both consider it useless and don't come to a conclusion from it?
I don't think you can reach a conclusion from it. On it's own it's not enough to say he's scum. That doesn't mean I'm going to shy away from talking about it.
Also I don't think what we're discussing now is useless. I think the plan itself was useless, but discussing the thought process that made rayn come up with the plan is extremely useful.
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Do you think it makes him more likely to be scum, then? I'm not getting anything out of this discourse other than a scumread on you.
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On February 20 2014 09:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:42 Palmar wrote:On February 20 2014 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When marv comes in, he'll explain my posts to everyone. Trust me, he has do to that, even as mafia. Then we lynch mafia. How about you explain your idea yourself? I mean I posted the two options I saw, but you can probably elaborate better than I on your intentions. Now this is the point. I already did. Why are you not reading?
I am reading, but it doesn't explain why you think it's relevant. You explains what you hope to achieve, but not why you think it's a good idea.
On February 20 2014 09:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It puts pressure on people who are considered lynch targets. And yes, if you are not pushing a lynch or have a stance on the current lynch targets you should vote for yourself then.
I would assume by default, any vote with a case/reasoning backing it would pressure a lynch target, no matter where some random votes have been left behind. In fact, I haven't even voted you, yet I'm pretty sure you feel much more pressure from me than Toad does, who currently has my vote on him.
So why do you think we need the plan? Do you simply disagree with me in the notion that the random votes are completely pointless?
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On February 20 2014 09:49 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:46 Palmar wrote:On February 20 2014 09:43 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:On February 20 2014 09:39 Palmar wrote:
The important part here is why rayn created the plan. If he's town I see two options, he either thought it was a good controversial move to start discussion, or he actually believes idle shitvotes randomly assigned by the host actually mean something.
If he's scum, it's a fantastic way of saying things without actually contributing anything to the game. I also don't know why his first post didn't simply lay out his plan, but instead left it up to guesswork by the rest of us. But I don't know if that says anything about his alignment. So basically he could be town or scum for it and all you've done is waffle things that have either already been posted or could be extrapolated within a second. I haven't actually waffled, I simply haven't made a decision. You have pointed out something that had already been pointed out and didn't conclude anything alignment indicative from it, nor did you attempt to inquire further into Rayn until I and Rayn called you out on it. Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:43 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:On February 20 2014 09:40 Palmar wrote:On February 20 2014 09:39 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:On February 20 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
I agree with what prplhz is saying, and to the extend that I don't understand why people care where votes are parked. It's completely irrelevant, there is no pressure in a vote that isn't being actively pushed as a lynch target. No one cares. I have no idea why rayn seems to think we need a plan to address that non-problem. It's an extremely bad opening discussion point and serves no purpose. Do you think Rayn is scum for it? You're saying it's pointless and you have no idea why he's talking about it, yet you continue to talk about it without asking any questions or having any follow up in your post. Everything you've said has already been said too. What is this post meant to accomplish? I don't know if he's scum because of it. We have plenty of time to figure it out. I was basically explaining where I stand. But your post said nothing prplhz hasn't already said. You've given your thoughts on this and your conclusion was that it's a null tell, or you haven't followed up on it with any questions geared towards Rayn. Why did you feel the need to address this from all the things in the thread when you both consider it useless and don't come to a conclusion from it? I don't think you can reach a conclusion from it. On it's own it's not enough to say he's scum. That doesn't mean I'm going to shy away from talking about it. Also I don't think what we're discussing now is useless. I think the plan itself was useless, but discussing the thought process that made rayn come up with the plan is extremely useful.
Do you think it makes him more likely to be scum, then? I'm not getting anything out of this discourse other than a scumread on you.[/QUOTE]
Why are you trying to pressure me into making a call? I have plenty of time to decide whether or not rayn is scum...
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On February 20 2014 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:46 suki wrote:
I agree that finding a way to 'unvote' is stupid. I don't think it makes me lean scum or town on rayn either way. So what do you think. Is that all you see in my posts? Because if it is and you are right then i am pretty surely mafia because i am not some random noob who says irrelevant stuff as town.
I think the reactions that are garnered from your stupid entry is a positive direction for town and that Balla's reaction to it specifically makes me think he is scum. As for you specifically, I think you can open this way as scum or town.
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On February 20 2014 09:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 09:49 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:On February 20 2014 09:46 Palmar wrote:On February 20 2014 09:43 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:On February 20 2014 09:39 Palmar wrote:
The important part here is why rayn created the plan. If he's town I see two options, he either thought it was a good controversial move to start discussion, or he actually believes idle shitvotes randomly assigned by the host actually mean something.
If he's scum, it's a fantastic way of saying things without actually contributing anything to the game. I also don't know why his first post didn't simply lay out his plan, but instead left it up to guesswork by the rest of us. But I don't know if that says anything about his alignment. So basically he could be town or scum for it and all you've done is waffle things that have either already been posted or could be extrapolated within a second. I haven't actually waffled, I simply haven't made a decision. You have pointed out something that had already been pointed out and didn't conclude anything alignment indicative from it, nor did you attempt to inquire further into Rayn until I and Rayn called you out on it. On February 20 2014 09:43 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:On February 20 2014 09:40 Palmar wrote:On February 20 2014 09:39 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:On February 20 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
I agree with what prplhz is saying, and to the extend that I don't understand why people care where votes are parked. It's completely irrelevant, there is no pressure in a vote that isn't being actively pushed as a lynch target. No one cares. I have no idea why rayn seems to think we need a plan to address that non-problem. It's an extremely bad opening discussion point and serves no purpose. Do you think Rayn is scum for it? You're saying it's pointless and you have no idea why he's talking about it, yet you continue to talk about it without asking any questions or having any follow up in your post. Everything you've said has already been said too. What is this post meant to accomplish? I don't know if he's scum because of it. We have plenty of time to figure it out. I was basically explaining where I stand. But your post said nothing prplhz hasn't already said. You've given your thoughts on this and your conclusion was that it's a null tell, or you haven't followed up on it with any questions geared towards Rayn. Why did you feel the need to address this from all the things in the thread when you both consider it useless and don't come to a conclusion from it? I don't think you can reach a conclusion from it. On it's own it's not enough to say he's scum. That doesn't mean I'm going to shy away from talking about it. Also I don't think what we're discussing now is useless. I think the plan itself was useless, but discussing the thought process that made rayn come up with the plan is extremely useful. Do you think it makes him more likely to be scum, then? I'm not getting anything out of this discourse other than a scumread on you.
Why are you trying to pressure me into making a call? I have plenty of time to decide whether or not rayn is scum...
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Why am I pressuring a scumread? Gee, I wonder.
Is that a serious question?
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Interesting. HAs anyone else have anything to say about this?
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Hello everyone. Do I need to read before I go to bed? A quick skim of this page and everything looks super serious already.
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On February 20 2014 09:53 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Why am I pressuring a scumread? Gee, I wonder.
Is that a serious question?
It is an entirely serious question.
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On February 20 2014 09:54 marvellosity wrote:
Hello everyone. Do I need to read before I go to bed? A quick skim of this page and everything looks super serious already.
On February 20 2014 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When marv comes in, he'll explain my posts to everyone. Trust me, he has do to that, even as mafia. Then we lynch mafia.
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