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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 00:56 GMT
#241
oh god, the pressure is on. I'll read then.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 20 2014 00:58 GMT
#242
On February 20 2014 09:55 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:53 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Why am I pressuring a scumread? Gee, I wonder.
Is that a serious question?


It is an entirely serious question.

I saw no point in your initial comments, and with a lack of a follow up to continue on them I saw them as fluff as they added nothing new to the table. You have given potential scenarios rather than ask Rayn to explain himself, so if your intention was to read him, it seems like a horrendous way of approaching it. Therefore since you already have a read I'd like to hear it so that it may make my read on you more accurate. I'm more interested in hearing thoughts from you rather than Rayn right now.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 20 2014 01:03 GMT
#243
On February 20 2014 09:58 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
I saw no point in your initial comments, and with a lack of a follow up to continue on them I saw them as fluff as they added nothing new to the table.


Even rayn would tell you (and notice how he responded specifically to me) that it matters where people stand. I wanted to say I agreed with prplhz on his point about rayn's plan. That's about it.

On February 20 2014 09:58 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:You have given potential scenarios rather than ask Rayn to explain himself, so if your intention was to read him, it seems like a horrendous way of approaching it.


On February 20 2014 09:42 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When marv comes in, he'll explain my posts to everyone. Trust me, he has do to that, even as mafia. Then we lynch mafia.


How about you explain your idea yourself? I mean I posted the two options I saw, but you can probably elaborate better than I on your intentions.


Seems to me I did exactly what you're accusing me of not having done.

On February 20 2014 09:58 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:Therefore since you already have a read I'd like to hear it so that it may make my read on you more accurate. I'm more interested in hearing thoughts from you rather than Rayn right now.


I don't. I don't think I have nearly enough information to make a call, hence why I'm baffled why you're trying to force me to make a decision, it makes no sense for me to throw out a random conclusion when I haven't reached one.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 20 2014 01:04 GMT
#244
Like I don't mind you asking questions, but please believe my answers. If I say I don't know if it makes rayn scum, then that probably means I don't know if it makes rayn scum.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 01:05 GMT
#245
On February 20 2014 10:04 Palmar wrote:
Like I don't mind you asking questions, but please believe my answers. If I say I don't know if it makes rayn scum, then that probably means I don't know if it makes rayn scum.

How can you agree with prplhz's vote if you don't think i am necessarily scum?
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 20 2014 01:07 GMT
#246
On February 20 2014 10:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 10:04 Palmar wrote:
Like I don't mind you asking questions, but please believe my answers. If I say I don't know if it makes rayn scum, then that probably means I don't know if it makes rayn scum.

How can you agree with prplhz's vote if you don't think i am necessarily scum?

I said I had no problem with the vote. I don't think it makes prplhz any more likely to be scum. That doesn't mean I have reached the same conclusion.

Now if you go all super-towny and start raping mafia left and right the rest of the day and prplhz's vote stays on you, then we have a problem, but at the moment I have no problem with the vote.
Computer says mafia
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 20 2014 01:07 GMT
#247
On February 20 2014 10:03 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:58 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
I saw no point in your initial comments, and with a lack of a follow up to continue on them I saw them as fluff as they added nothing new to the table.


Even rayn would tell you (and notice how he responded specifically to me) that it matters where people stand. I wanted to say I agreed with prplhz on his point about rayn's plan. That's about it.

So why didn't you leave it at a simple +1? The additions were fairly redundant. It made the post appear bigger than the content was, which has scum motivation.

On February 20 2014 09:58 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:You have given potential scenarios rather than ask Rayn to explain himself, so if your intention was to read him, it seems like a horrendous way of approaching it.


On February 20 2014 09:42 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When marv comes in, he'll explain my posts to everyone. Trust me, he has do to that, even as mafia. Then we lynch mafia.


How about you explain your idea yourself? I mean I posted the two options I saw, but you can probably elaborate better than I on your intentions.


Seems to me I did exactly what you're accusing me of not having done.[/quote]
My problem with this is that you did it 1. After I pressured you and 2. after you already presented him with scenario's to showcase what you're thinking, making it easier for him to adapt. If your intention was to get a read on him, why didn't you ask those questions immediately? The way it went down, it looks more like a convenient opportunity/necessity than actually trying to get a read.

On February 20 2014 09:58 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:Therefore since you already have a read I'd like to hear it so that it may make my read on you more accurate. I'm more interested in hearing thoughts from you rather than Rayn right now.


I don't. I don't think I have nearly enough information to make a call, hence why I'm baffled why you're trying to force me to make a decision, it makes no sense for me to throw out a random conclusion when I haven't reached one.[/QUOTE]
See above.
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 20 2014 01:08 GMT
#248
Anyway, this conduct is no longer useful unless you have anything that doesn't result us going in circles.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 01:10 GMT
#249
My problem is that there are now at least 4 people who have no interest in thinking of my motives behind my posts. I'll make a clarification after marv posts anyways, but there is something i want out of marv first. I'll explain that too after.
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 20 2014 01:11 GMT
#250
On February 20 2014 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem is that there are now at least 4 people who have no interest in thinking of my motives behind my posts. I'll make a clarification after marv posts anyways, but there is something i want out of marv first. I'll explain that too after.


I'm asking exactly for your motives. But for some reason you don't seem to want to tell me?
Computer says mafia
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 20 2014 01:11 GMT
#251
On February 20 2014 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem is that there are now at least 4 people who have no interest in thinking of my motives behind my posts. I'll make a clarification after marv posts anyways, but there is something i want out of marv first. I'll explain that too after.

I thought you had already made your intentions clear and thought the votes worked in a different light than they did. Is there more to it than that?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 01:12 GMT
#252
Smurf, you're fucking annoying already. That's what I've taken out of this thread so far.

rayn I don't have some special insight into you, dear. If I had to guess I'd just guess that you wanted it so that if someone had a vote on someone else, it meant something. I have no idea why having a method to unvote is supposed to be in any way scummy though (hi prplhz, suki, maybe other people I forgot in the last 3 minutes).

I mean if anyone really thinks this is some convoluted method for rayn not to have to take stands (this is what prplhz said in his vote post), then you're basically totally insane and you should hit yourself on the head.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 20 2014 01:13 GMT
#253
As far as I could read, rayn didn't back off his plan when he realized the votes didn't work the way he thought. That's the assumption I've been working under.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 01:13 GMT
#254
On February 20 2014 10:11 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem is that there are now at least 4 people who have no interest in thinking of my motives behind my posts. I'll make a clarification after marv posts anyways, but there is something i want out of marv first. I'll explain that too after.


I'm asking exactly for your motives. But for some reason you don't seem to want to tell me?

You are supposed to make educated guesses about my motives and post your conclusions about them. Apparently you don't understand them. That's technically fine. What's not fine is you blindly soft +1 prplhz and Toad while saying you don't understand what's going on.
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 20 2014 01:13 GMT
#255
@Smurf can you please stop breaking posts, it's really annoying to reply to you when you constantly do.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 20 2014 01:15 GMT
#256
On February 20 2014 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 10:11 Palmar wrote:
On February 20 2014 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem is that there are now at least 4 people who have no interest in thinking of my motives behind my posts. I'll make a clarification after marv posts anyways, but there is something i want out of marv first. I'll explain that too after.


I'm asking exactly for your motives. But for some reason you don't seem to want to tell me?

You are supposed to make educated guesses about my motives and post your conclusions about them. Apparently you don't understand them. That's technically fine. What's not fine is you blindly soft +1 prplhz and Toad while saying you don't understand what's going on.


I did already make two educated guesses that assume you're town, which of course are the only ones you'd ever confirm as either alignment.

You just ignored me.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 01:15 GMT
#257
btw best guess for rayn and his plan is on the townside simply because it's so pointless to bring it up as mafia and it has generated reasonably useful conversation which as a really obvious consequence.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 01:15 GMT
#258
as = was
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 20 2014 01:16 GMT
#259
On February 20 2014 10:12 marvellosity wrote:
Smurf, you're fucking annoying already. That's what I've taken out of this thread so far.

This wounds me.
On February 20 2014 10:13 Palmar wrote:
@Smurf can you please stop breaking posts, it's really annoying to reply to you when you constantly do.

I'll try to be more careful.

Rayn, are you saying you've still got a plan in motion or are you talking about the motivation behind your original plan? Because I'm pretty stumped.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 01:17 GMT
#260
<3 sorry bubba, you're all ra-ra! and I'm all like "ugh whatever" and you're like "but this and whatever this is!" and I'm all like "yeah i'm sure that's cool"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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