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On February 20 2014 10:48 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar the problem is not that if you make it clear or not. It's if other people think you are being clear or not which is not always so easily said. You know how this shit works, scum misrepresent everything people do because that's how you lynch townies. Why not reduce the possible amount of misrepresentations by an easy policy that does no harm in any case? there's plenty of people throwing around votes in every single game, for fun, for policy, for random reasons or whatever else. So if it's not a problem in any other game, why do you think it's going to be a problem in this one to the point that you think we should make a "no voting someone else unless you're super certain" policy? Do you actually think it's something that should be policy in every game? That's not what i am saying. Stop fucking twisting my words or l2read. I am already getting mad at you and that's not what i want.
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On February 20 2014 10:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Toadesstern do you think being able to unvote in general is pro-town or pro-mafia?
oh can i? ??
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but I know the answer! !!!
such excited
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ok it doesn't matter at all and has no impact on the game
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On February 20 2014 10:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Toadesstern do you think being able to unvote in general is pro-town or pro-mafia?
On February 20 2014 10:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 10:48 Toadesstern wrote:On February 20 2014 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar the problem is not that if you make it clear or not. It's if other people think you are being clear or not which is not always so easily said. You know how this shit works, scum misrepresent everything people do because that's how you lynch townies. Why not reduce the possible amount of misrepresentations by an easy policy that does no harm in any case? there's plenty of people throwing around votes in every single game, for fun, for policy, for random reasons or whatever else. So if it's not a problem in any other game, why do you think it's going to be a problem in this one to the point that you think we should make a "no voting someone else unless you're super certain" policy? Do you actually think it's something that should be policy in every game? That's not what i am saying. Stop fucking twisting my words or l2read. I am already getting mad at you and that's not what i want. neither really as long as people are aware of it. There's very minor upsides to it for both sides and I'd say they counter each other out to a point that it's completly irrelevant.
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So why do you think i am mafia Toad?
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Don't dance around the issue and make a clear case.
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rayn said: We don't want that because we benefit from clarity and it's beneficial we know exactly WHEN and WHY people drop their scumreads and where they head next. If they don't have next target they should inform that by voting for themselves. This prevents mafia from misrepresenting people because you can always back up your thoughts with your actions in thread (most importantly voting). Having no possibility to unvote is pro-mafia, if you't agree with that you need to explain me why. It's never irrelevant where your vote is at.
Here's how I see it. Because you're forced to vote someone, you can't unvote and remain without an opinion (well, except with this stupid plan). This is pro-town. If someone voted Koshi and said, 'I don't think Koshi is scum anymore' but kept his vote on Koshi, then pressuring that person to take a stance on someone else IS pro-town because they can't just unvote and say 'I dont know I'm thinking'.
It forces accountability, and mafia hate being accountable for their actions. This outweighs scum possibly misrepresenting someone because they didn't take off their vote.
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I wasn't able to come up with a reason for you to propose what you did as town while being able come up with a reasoning for it as mafia despite it being a sketchy reasoning. So I wanted you to explain yourself. It's basicly the same way I caught mafia the last game were you got me lynched. Remember the miller thing that I pointed out 3 hours into the game and I wasn't sure what to make of it early on? It's literally the same thing and I'm not liking it one bit.
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On February 20 2014 11:04 Toadesstern wrote: I wasn't able to come up with a reason for you to propose what you did as town while being able come up with a reasoning for it as mafia despite it being a sketchy reasoning. So I wanted you to explain yourself. It's basicly the same way I caught mafia the last game were you got me lynched. Remember the miller thing that I pointed out 3 hours into the game and I wasn't sure what to make of it early on? It's literally the same thing and I'm not liking it one bit. Well i came up with a reasoning, why is my reasoning not possible and how does it not line up with my actions in thread? Just because you don't understand something does not mean i can't possibly make sense.
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I don't give a fuck about what you did last game because if you had "caught mafia" you would have lynched VayneAutority which you did not do.
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Foolishness told me in pm's to wait a little longer and not just claim d1 to get him lynched ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) Your explanation is possible, that's the sad thing here.
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Pro tip for any possible competent scum out there. Read my posts. I guarantee you get easy mislynches later on when you first eliminate townies that use their brain.
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On February 20 2014 10:40 Koshi wrote: Rofl. Rayn and marv are.going to be town so this will be so awesome. Let it be known that if you attack either rayn, marv or myself in the next 6 hours you better.do it very convincingly. Cuz I will not be impressed by sloppy shizzle on my towny friends and myself.
Poor.scummers.
Koshi out 4.realzies.
Koshi tell me why you are reading these two as town, and why you feel the need to express this so strongly to the thread.
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Also rayn are you serious
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Simple question Toad. At this moment do you think i am mafia or not?
suki i am always serious.
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