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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2014 21:03 GMT
#521
Votecount:

Jaybrundage ( 2 ) : Balla24, Koshi, suki, Hopeless1der, Oatsmaster
JonnyLaw ( 2 ) : suki, Koshi, Aquanim
Sidesprang ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster
Koshi ( 1 ) : jaybrundage

Balla24 ( 0 ) : Jaybrundage, suki
Aquanim ( 0 ) : Balla24
suki ( 0 ) : Oatsmaster, Balla24

5 people who haven't voted yet: Balla24, Alakaslam, Sidesprang, LoneMeow, JonnyLaw,
With 2 votes Jaybrundage is set to be lynched

Deadline on Saturday, Feb 08 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

if you happen to find any mistakes in the above, please inform us/me about it immediatly, thanks.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 07 2014 21:05 GMT
#522
On February 08 2014 05:31 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 05:24 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 08 2014 05:21 Koshi wrote:
I like you Stray Kitten. I like you.

I don't see jayB being scum without Jonny being scum tbh. The other way around is possible.

Can we see a vote already?


Why do you think jaybrundage can't be scum if JonnyLaw is town? Connection?

The way you catched me previous game. I disappeared when it was lynch and wasn't discussing anything. The same happened with Jonny early game. Imagine if Jonny is town and jayB is scum, do you think Jonny would suddenly disappear at the same time hell breaks lose and not offer his opinion?


There's always the chance that he actually had to do something IRL, but yes, I see your point.

On February 08 2014 05:31 Koshi wrote:
Then when I call him out on him he says that he is there and trying to make sense of the clusterfuck. Which is extremely scummy, and then the next thing he posts is a misinterpretation about something that hapenned PRE-GAME. (the lollypop business).


The "trying to make sense" thing was scummy, I agree.



What do you think of sidesprang? You asked him some questions, did you come to some conclusion based on the answers?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 07 2014 21:12 GMT
#523
On February 08 2014 05:32 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 05:19 LoneMeow wrote:
Okay, so:

JonnyLaw

Not playing to his usual aggressive, abrasive town meta (and he was called very town for it in the previous game, so there's no reason to change). Posting a lot of one liners and not volunteering his opinion.

Verdict: scummy


Can you provide some examples to back this up?


See for example this post from last game:
On February 04 2014 11:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
Meh, okay so she dislikes everything I say. I think they mean the same thing. I guess it could be taken as she thinks im misguided sometimes rather than simply scummy.

Her question seemed legit enough but balla's right. At the start of day 1 I want to see what someone is willing or able to bring to the game. There's no point saying much until they show what they're committing.

At this point LM's first post was shit but says nothing about his alignment until other actions take place in the game.

Koshi on the other hand created two pages of shit posting. This allowed LM and other LM like people to pop in, say nothing and fuck off out of here acting as though they participated in the game.


Compare to this game - there's absolutely none of that aggression and hostility aimed at any players. It's all generic, see for example these:
On February 07 2014 07:43 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:40 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:40 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.



Overall you had a good game. You had one comment early that tripped my scum radar. I think along the lines of "in newer games people need motivation to post." Then you proceeded to try and take over the town. I felt like you were scum trying to take over the town. Bah, you should have been scum.

Nobody cares about past game Jonny.


What better time to sit around talking. It lets us get reads we can use later. Better last game or future games or past games than fucking policy talk.


On February 07 2014 07:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Votes are like assholes in this game. Give the man a minute. It's day1 lets sit around and chat a while.

suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 21:18 GMT
#524
Ok so Jonny doesn't have any scum games that I can find. If someone can link me any that would be great.

Going through the previous town games of his I don't see too much difference between those games and this game. He's always posted one liners, with the occasional longer post here and there. One of the things that I didn't like about his play that I've mentioned is he keeps on shitting on Balla's opening post way after he says it's useless to talk about it.. But in Shadowed Mafia he actually does the same with Koshi's opening. Keeps on mentioning it despite saying it's useless.

I think there's not enough for me to come to a conclusion on him yet. I'm eagerly anticipating his case on Balla and the next few people he pushes.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 07 2014 21:21 GMT
#525
On February 08 2014 06:18 suki wrote:
Ok so Jonny doesn't have any scum games that I can find. If someone can link me any that would be great.


To my best understanding he's had none whatsoever.

On February 08 2014 06:18 suki wrote:
Going through the previous town games of his I don't see too much difference between those games and this game. He's always posted one liners, with the occasional longer post here and there. One of the things that I didn't like about his play that I've mentioned is he keeps on shitting on Balla's opening post way after he says it's useless to talk about it.. But in Shadowed Mafia he actually does the same with Koshi's opening. Keeps on mentioning it despite saying it's useless.


If you look at the previous aborted game, he did have one liners but he also posted quite a lot of longer posts where he actively volunteered his thoughts and reads on players. That's what is missing in this game, along with the aggression and hostility towards players he thinks are scum.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 21:24 GMT
#526
PYP LoL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086

I quoted stuff from it last night guys...
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 21:29 GMT
#527
On February 08 2014 06:21 LoneMeow wrote:
If you look at the previous aborted game, he did have one liners but he also posted quite a lot of longer posts where he actively volunteered his thoughts and reads on players. That's what is missing in this game, along with the aggression and hostility towards players he thinks are scum.


true but so far he's been in the thread twice I believe? Right at the beginning and then when he was drunk. Let's see how he fares when he comes back today.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 07 2014 21:29 GMT
#528
On February 08 2014 06:24 Balla24 wrote:
PYP LoL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086

I quoted stuff from it last night guys...


Ah, thanks. From what I see on a quick read his play there doesn't completely fit this game either. Now I really want to see his case.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 07 2014 21:30 GMT
#529
On February 08 2014 06:29 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 06:21 LoneMeow wrote:
If you look at the previous aborted game, he did have one liners but he also posted quite a lot of longer posts where he actively volunteered his thoughts and reads on players. That's what is missing in this game, along with the aggression and hostility towards players he thinks are scum.


true but so far he's been in the thread twice I believe? Right at the beginning and then when he was drunk. Let's see how he fares when he comes back today.


Okay, acceptable. Let's talk about someone else. You choose who.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 21:32 GMT
#530
I see your point Balla, My King. I didn't include PyP in my analysis because theme games are really wonky and I didn't know what was going on, but your quote on mocsta does sound like his attitude this game.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 21:35 GMT
#531
Let's talk about Oats.

Let's talk about how he started a choo choo train on me, and then I came and posted my meta case on Sidesprang and he decided that sidesprang was now a good target.

Hmm..
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 21:43 GMT
#532
Actually better yet.. Let's talk about how Oats found Jay super scummy at the beginning:
On February 07 2014 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Jay is scummy scum scum.

Although he seems to really believe in this.

The thing with his case on Koshi is that you cant make the case 3 hours into day 1. It doesnt work, not enough evidence. But is it too bad to be scum? Still making up my mind on that.

Wafflingggg

On February 07 2014 11:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:38 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why were you even commenting on his first post? You thought he wrote it after he got his alignment?

It is day 1. What else do you do besides make small talk till you find someone who you think is scummy.

BUT HE WROTE IT PREGAME. LIKE YOU DONT TALK ABOUT PREGAME DURING THE GAME DO YOU?
##vote Jay


Then he changes to:

On February 07 2014 18:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
I kinda dont think either are scum. I need to check JayB's last scum games but I dont think so. Its like both of their pushes on Koshi were so bad.
What do you think of Suki and Balla?

He's referring to Jay and Jonny when he says 'I kinda don't think either are scum'.

On February 07 2014 20:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
For jayB, I understand where he is coming from though. Its like he finally understood the questions and was able to phrase his thought process properly.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 21:46 GMT
#533
I'm really curious to see what Oats thinks about Jay when he gets back.

I also want to know what made him go from Jay is scummy scum scum to thinking he's not scum.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 21:47 GMT
#534
I find it hard to see Oats and Jay as a scum team though. If I had to put my money on one I'd say Jay is scum and Oats is Oats.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 21:49 GMT
#535
Anyways your turn LoneMeow.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 07 2014 21:50 GMT
#536
On February 08 2014 06:35 suki wrote:
Let's talk about Oats.

Let's talk about how he started a choo choo train on me, and then I came and posted my meta case on Sidesprang and he decided that sidesprang was now a good target.

Hmm..


Ugh, Oatsmaster. So hard to get a read on.

This is kind of funny though:
On February 07 2014 19:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
I gave the first analysis on suki, the only thing I sheeped was aqua asking about suki.

how is suki town because she totally ignores jayb's case and thinks he is too tryhard and therefore scum? URGHGHHH

fine.
##unvote
##vote Sidesprang

Firstly his scumreads dont make sense. He summarizes all our filters and doesnt say anything about how it makes us scum, he isnt reading in depth at all to know that I think johnny is town and his townread on suki doesnt make sense either.
bleh its hard to phrase but I dont get the feeling like he is questioning anything at all in this game.




Oatsmaster is pretty much summarizing what sidesprang did here, without explaining how it makes him scum... Which is what he accuses sidesprang of?!

I still don't know. I kind of thought he was scum in the previous game until late into the day.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 07 2014 21:52 GMT
#537
On February 08 2014 06:47 suki wrote:
I find it hard to see Oats and Jay as a scum team though. If I had to put my money on one I'd say Jay is scum and Oats is Oats.


I really don't want connection cases on unflipped players. And I'm not sold on jaybrundage just yet, either. See my earlier post, he has some posts that make him look pretty town after the terrible ones.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 21:54 GMT
#538
Hmm.. I want to ask you about your thoughts on Hopeless too.

I read through his game and I think he's townie, but I have reservations on it because last game I totally thought he was townie and he was scum. I'm all meta'd out for the day so I don't feel like diving and seeing how his play was in past games at the moment.

Just wondering if anything sticks out to you.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 21:55 GMT
#539
It's kinda similar to my thought process on jay actually, so I don't really see it as scummy the fact that he goes back on it. I find it odd that he says this:

On February 07 2014 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Jay is scummy scum scum.

Although he seems to really believe in this.

The thing with his case on Koshi is that you cant make the case 3 hours into day 1. It doesnt work, not enough evidence. But is it too bad to be scum? Still making up my mind on that.

Wafflingggg


About jay's case on koshi, but after I point out this about you suki:

On February 07 2014 12:29 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 12:22 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 12:15 Aquanim wrote:
Hey guys I'd like to discuss Suki

Filter in the original game as town: Asks lots of questions, discusses reads, VERY direct

Filter in this game: Mostly trolly one-liners about "King" Balla, doesn't talk much about reads unless directly asked, is not asking many questions.

I haven't thoroughly meta-d Suki but I'm really feeling a serious gap in her attitude between the two games.

I can't see any reason in Suki's filter to think she is town so far. Does anyone else have any?

Yea I didn't like her play so much as I mentioned in my response to her earlier. I hesitated on calling her scum tho lol. I had already been pretty ambitious with calling people scum this game.

I found it odd that she ignored my correction of her post where she is trolling me. But is completely wrong on it because she mixed up which post came first. I would of expected an opps or oh my thing. But she didn't even comment on it. That just seemed odd to me. As suki is usually first to make amends when she makes a mistake.


I'd just like to note that I think suki's point about jayb's case on Koshi being early or whatever is pretty bad. There's no reason to think that jaybrundage posting a case on koshi because it's early is scummy. That's just wrong. It's coming from a position where you KNOW jaybrundage is scum, which nobody knows except his possible scum buddies, thus he is OBVIOUSLY trying to fit in as town by posting a case early.



He goes:

On February 07 2014 12:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah oh shit Suki does nothing about the case JayB posted, she never comments on it at all, just says its too tryhard and therefore scummy. Oh thats bad. She literally says nothing on whether the case was good/bad or why and whether koshi is town/scum or why. Just shits on it because its early in the game?

##vote Suki


Which is interesting because you made a similar point to one that Oats made in the first quote here about jay's "sad koshi' case.

+ Show Spoiler [Suki's comments] +

On February 07 2014 08:49 suki wrote:
##unvote King Balla
##vote Jaybrundage


What the hell are you seriously posting a super-serious-scum-hunt long ass post with quotes and reasoning two hours into the game? Take a CHILL PILL man.

Holy shit. Why the hell are you in such a rush to find scum out of the first four people who have entered the thread. This attitude is completely different from last game and I don't mean that in a good way.

On February 07 2014 08:58 suki wrote:
It's not the action but the motives.

Posting a long ass scum case this early just screams try-hard scum look at me I'm hunting scum! Why do you have to prove yourself this early as town, forcing a pure meta "koshi should be happy but he's not" argument to say that Koshi is definitely scum?


LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 07 2014 21:59 GMT
#540
On February 08 2014 06:54 suki wrote:
Hmm.. I want to ask you about your thoughts on Hopeless too.

I read through his game and I think he's townie, but I have reservations on it because last game I totally thought he was townie and he was scum. I'm all meta'd out for the day so I don't feel like diving and seeing how his play was in past games at the moment.

Just wondering if anything sticks out to you.


I'm thinking Hopeless1der is town. Kind of a gut read, but he seems to be posting pretty freely. See for example these:
On February 07 2014 10:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
My WiFi just conked out I'll be a little while sorting out wtf happened to it.

On February 07 2014 11:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
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