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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 03:22 GMT
#321
On February 07 2014 12:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 12:01 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:54 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

Balla talk to me why do you think my push on Koshi is scummy. I think while it isn't the most amazing case. It is after all an early day 1 case. And I think alot of things I said are completely true.


If you are referring to the big "case", I never said that was scummy. I said that it was ok, but I don't really like the fact that it's built off of koshi not being happy. It's new information, which is good, but the information isn't that great, you know? I don't think that case is scummy at all.

What I think was possibly scummy was your initial reaction to koshi's "fake vote". I explained multiple times so I don't really want to type it all out again, but it was based on the fact that your initial reaction was more scum like than town like in the fact that you weren't really trying to figure out what koshi was doing, and were just attacking him. You weren't curious, as I expect a townie who is having a WTF moment would be having.

After your initial reaction, you calmed down and started displaying more townie traits, but still, the initial reaction is what my read on you is based off of. Everything after that is "meh" to me. Does that not make sense?

Hmm So rereading it. I responded to your vote. Cause it was like a foolishness cameo. I had voted you semi-jokingly before. So I didn't take it seriously. I didn't respond to Koshi's vote because it just seemed like a throwaway/joke vote. Then I posted my thing about him not being excited enough in his first post.

Then you posted your thing about me not commentating on them. But I actually had commentated on one of them. Which was yours. But I didn't feel a reason to comment on them indepth because they didn't seem like real votes in the first place from what I thought.

Does that make sense?


First off you didn't reply to everything I said in there haha, does that make sense what I said? Like I don't want you to misunderstand where I think you are scummy and where you're not.

Ah but that wasn't me who said you didn't comment on them, that was Koshi. Interesting.

So actually, I think your initial reaction to my vote was super town. I wasn't expecting it to go any further than that after that response until you blew up at Koshi which set off red flags everywhere for me. Turns out, Koshi here is the catalyst for everything. And his antagonizing behavior led to all this.

Koshi: i know you're asleep but I want you to answer this so i'm asking it again, what was it that "felt off" about the post we voted jaybrundage for?
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 07 2014 03:23 GMT
#322
On February 07 2014 12:15 Aquanim wrote:
Hey guys I'd like to discuss Suki

Filter in the original game as town: Asks lots of questions, discusses reads, VERY direct

Filter in this game: Mostly trolly one-liners about "King" Balla, doesn't talk much about reads unless directly asked, is not asking many questions.

I haven't thoroughly meta-d Suki but I'm really feeling a serious gap in her attitude between the two games.

I can't see any reason in Suki's filter to think she is town so far. Does anyone else have any?


Are you basing your scum read on Suki just off meta atm ?

I don't think acting another way from one game to another is a good way to meta someone, especially when the person have scumgames you can read. She was scum in Mafia Newbie Mafia LI I think, prolly better to start there. I played in that game and dont remember to much of the meta, other than she was good :S
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 07 2014 03:24 GMT
#323
##unvote
No gg, No skill.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 03:29 GMT
#324
On February 07 2014 12:22 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 12:15 Aquanim wrote:
Hey guys I'd like to discuss Suki

Filter in the original game as town: Asks lots of questions, discusses reads, VERY direct

Filter in this game: Mostly trolly one-liners about "King" Balla, doesn't talk much about reads unless directly asked, is not asking many questions.

I haven't thoroughly meta-d Suki but I'm really feeling a serious gap in her attitude between the two games.

I can't see any reason in Suki's filter to think she is town so far. Does anyone else have any?

Yea I didn't like her play so much as I mentioned in my response to her earlier. I hesitated on calling her scum tho lol. I had already been pretty ambitious with calling people scum this game.

I found it odd that she ignored my correction of her post where she is trolling me. But is completely wrong on it because she mixed up which post came first. I would of expected an opps or oh my thing. But she didn't even comment on it. That just seemed odd to me. As suki is usually first to make amends when she makes a mistake.


I'd just like to note that I think suki's point about jayb's case on Koshi being early or whatever is pretty bad. There's no reason to think that jaybrundage posting a case on koshi because it's early is scummy. That's just wrong. It's coming from a position where you KNOW jaybrundage is scum, which nobody knows except his possible scum buddies, thus he is OBVIOUSLY trying to fit in as town by posting a case early.

On February 07 2014 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 12:08 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

What are you doing to push someone? Nothing.


This is a really silly post Oats, like you have barely read the thread. I've done plenty. In fact your reads are mostly just sheeps off of what I created in the thread.

I have something for you:

On February 07 2014 11:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Aqua is being very very guiding without actually hunting scum.


Guiding as in more similar last game's jaybrundage, or he's being more similar to LoneMeow? To me Aquanim is being very similar to LoneMeow atm, but there's no real loaded questions like he had and he seems to be making conclusions about stuff in the thread. His questions seemed more to try to generate discussions, and he seems very eager to do so, but he's not really accomplishing it in my opinion.

Can you elaborate on aqua's "guidiness" and how he's not trying to hunt scum?

The part where he doesnt ask anyone questions that are hard to answer, but mainly asking them to clarify and phrase their points better.

The point I was making is that you asked us to stop harping abotu JayB but you arent doing anything away from that. Which is totally true.


Ah. That makes very much sense, I thought you were accusing me for doing nothing the entire game. Eh, I don't mind that then but I still kinda disagree considering I just sat down at my computer again and see you guys pushing jayb ^_^. All i'm doing now is having a conversation with him to clear things up.

On Aqua:

That's good. I do think he's trying to come up with conclusions about people though which is good. And since you brought it up, he has brought new information to the thread with the suki stuff. So we'll see.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 07 2014 03:29 GMT
#325
lol did hopeless roll scum again?
No gg, No skill.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 07 2014 03:30 GMT
#326
On February 07 2014 12:23 sidesprang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 12:15 Aquanim wrote:
Hey guys I'd like to discuss Suki

Filter in the original game as town: Asks lots of questions, discusses reads, VERY direct

Filter in this game: Mostly trolly one-liners about "King" Balla, doesn't talk much about reads unless directly asked, is not asking many questions.

I haven't thoroughly meta-d Suki but I'm really feeling a serious gap in her attitude between the two games.

I can't see any reason in Suki's filter to think she is town so far. Does anyone else have any?


Are you basing your scum read on Suki just off meta atm ?

I don't think acting another way from one game to another is a good way to meta someone, especially when the person have scumgames you can read. She was scum in Mafia Newbie Mafia LI I think, prolly better to start there. I played in that game and dont remember to much of the meta, other than she was good :S

It's a kind of half-meta case, in that her play so far does not seem to be directed towards scumhunting, and I can verify that she is capable and willing to direct her play towards scumhunting by checking a previous town game. The argument holds without any need to refer to her scumgames, though I would take a look at it if I were to start seriously pushing for her lynch. For now I want to discuss her play so far.

Putting aside your opinion of my methods, what's your read on suki so far?
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 03:31 GMT
#327
On February 07 2014 12:22 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 12:16 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 12:01 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:54 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

Balla talk to me why do you think my push on Koshi is scummy. I think while it isn't the most amazing case. It is after all an early day 1 case. And I think alot of things I said are completely true.


If you are referring to the big "case", I never said that was scummy. I said that it was ok, but I don't really like the fact that it's built off of koshi not being happy. It's new information, which is good, but the information isn't that great, you know? I don't think that case is scummy at all.

What I think was possibly scummy was your initial reaction to koshi's "fake vote". I explained multiple times so I don't really want to type it all out again, but it was based on the fact that your initial reaction was more scum like than town like in the fact that you weren't really trying to figure out what koshi was doing, and were just attacking him. You weren't curious, as I expect a townie who is having a WTF moment would be having.

After your initial reaction, you calmed down and started displaying more townie traits, but still, the initial reaction is what my read on you is based off of. Everything after that is "meh" to me. Does that not make sense?

Hmm So rereading it. I responded to your vote. Cause it was like a foolishness cameo. I had voted you semi-jokingly before. So I didn't take it seriously. I didn't respond to Koshi's vote because it just seemed like a throwaway/joke vote. Then I posted my thing about him not being excited enough in his first post.

Then you posted your thing about me not commentating on them. But I actually had commentated on one of them. Which was yours. But I didn't feel a reason to comment on them indepth because they didn't seem like real votes in the first place from what I thought.

Does that make sense?


First off you didn't reply to everything I said in there haha, does that make sense what I said? Like I don't want you to misunderstand where I think you are scummy and where you're not.

Ah but that wasn't me who said you didn't comment on them, that was Koshi. Interesting.

So actually, I think your initial reaction to my vote was super town. I wasn't expecting it to go any further than that after that response until you blew up at Koshi which set off red flags everywhere for me. Turns out, Koshi here is the catalyst for everything. And his antagonizing behavior led to all this.

Koshi: i know you're asleep but I want you to answer this so i'm asking it again, what was it that "felt off" about the post we voted jaybrundage for?

What didn't I reply on?

Yea misread again it was Koshi. I never really responded to Koshi's vote vote tho. Can you quote the post your talking about? Also I am sorry my clone I think i misread you D:
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 07 2014 03:31 GMT
#328
yeah oh shit Suki does nothing about the case JayB posted, she never comments on it at all, just says its too tryhard and therefore scummy. Oh thats bad. She literally says nothing on whether the case was good/bad or why and whether koshi is town/scum or why. Just shits on it because its early in the game?

[b}##vote Suki[/b]
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 07 2014 03:32 GMT
#329
##vote suki
No gg, No skill.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 03:33 GMT
#330
On February 07 2014 12:30 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 12:23 sidesprang wrote:
On February 07 2014 12:15 Aquanim wrote:
Hey guys I'd like to discuss Suki

Filter in the original game as town: Asks lots of questions, discusses reads, VERY direct

Filter in this game: Mostly trolly one-liners about "King" Balla, doesn't talk much about reads unless directly asked, is not asking many questions.

I haven't thoroughly meta-d Suki but I'm really feeling a serious gap in her attitude between the two games.

I can't see any reason in Suki's filter to think she is town so far. Does anyone else have any?


Are you basing your scum read on Suki just off meta atm ?

I don't think acting another way from one game to another is a good way to meta someone, especially when the person have scumgames you can read. She was scum in Mafia Newbie Mafia LI I think, prolly better to start there. I played in that game and dont remember to much of the meta, other than she was good :S

It's a kind of half-meta case, in that her play so far does not seem to be directed towards scumhunting, and I can verify that she is capable and willing to direct her play towards scumhunting by checking a previous town game. The argument holds without any need to refer to her scumgames, though I would take a look at it if I were to start seriously pushing for her lynch. For now I want to discuss her play so far.

Putting aside your opinion of my methods, what's your read on suki so far?


Just from memory, she scum hunts as scum and her scumgame resembles her towngame. Neither of which resemble this game at all. I've never seen her this trolly and happy, but that just be because of the way the game opened, how I opened etc. We know each other somewhat out of mafia, so it totally fits with her personality, but I can't compare this game to any of her previous games.

Essentially, her scumgame doesn't resemble this at all, so your meta argument I don't believe holds true. We'll see how she follows up.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 03:36 GMT
#331
On February 07 2014 12:31 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 12:22 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 12:16 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 12:01 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:54 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

Balla talk to me why do you think my push on Koshi is scummy. I think while it isn't the most amazing case. It is after all an early day 1 case. And I think alot of things I said are completely true.


If you are referring to the big "case", I never said that was scummy. I said that it was ok, but I don't really like the fact that it's built off of koshi not being happy. It's new information, which is good, but the information isn't that great, you know? I don't think that case is scummy at all.

What I think was possibly scummy was your initial reaction to koshi's "fake vote". I explained multiple times so I don't really want to type it all out again, but it was based on the fact that your initial reaction was more scum like than town like in the fact that you weren't really trying to figure out what koshi was doing, and were just attacking him. You weren't curious, as I expect a townie who is having a WTF moment would be having.

After your initial reaction, you calmed down and started displaying more townie traits, but still, the initial reaction is what my read on you is based off of. Everything after that is "meh" to me. Does that not make sense?

Hmm So rereading it. I responded to your vote. Cause it was like a foolishness cameo. I had voted you semi-jokingly before. So I didn't take it seriously. I didn't respond to Koshi's vote because it just seemed like a throwaway/joke vote. Then I posted my thing about him not being excited enough in his first post.

Then you posted your thing about me not commentating on them. But I actually had commentated on one of them. Which was yours. But I didn't feel a reason to comment on them indepth because they didn't seem like real votes in the first place from what I thought.

Does that make sense?


First off you didn't reply to everything I said in there haha, does that make sense what I said? Like I don't want you to misunderstand where I think you are scummy and where you're not.

Ah but that wasn't me who said you didn't comment on them, that was Koshi. Interesting.

So actually, I think your initial reaction to my vote was super town. I wasn't expecting it to go any further than that after that response until you blew up at Koshi which set off red flags everywhere for me. Turns out, Koshi here is the catalyst for everything. And his antagonizing behavior led to all this.

Koshi: i know you're asleep but I want you to answer this so i'm asking it again, what was it that "felt off" about the post we voted jaybrundage for?

What didn't I reply on?

Yea misread again it was Koshi. I never really responded to Koshi's vote vote tho. Can you quote the post your talking about? Also I am sorry my clone I think i misread you D:


The post you were quoting where I replied to you. It was about how you had the impression that I was calling your push on Koshi scummy. I just want to know if we're clear now and on the same page.

I don't know what you're talking about in regards to responding to koshi's vote vote though haha. I don't care that you didn't reply to his vote post where he called you awkward or whatever. There was no reason to.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 03:37 GMT
#332
(it's literally in that quote chain btw... starts with "If you are referring to the big case" which was posted as a response to your question in the quote before that LOL)
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 07 2014 03:41 GMT
#333
On February 07 2014 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol did hopeless roll scum again?

dont make me beg oats.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 03:42 GMT
#334
On February 07 2014 12:01 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:54 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

Balla talk to me why do you think my push on Koshi is scummy. I think while it isn't the most amazing case. It is after all an early day 1 case. And I think alot of things I said are completely true.


If you are referring to the big "case", I never said that was scummy. I said that it was ok, but I don't really like the fact that it's built off of koshi not being happy. It's new information, which is good, but the information isn't that great, you know? I don't think that case is scummy at all.

What I think was possibly scummy was your initial reaction to koshi's "fake vote". I explained multiple times so I don't really want to type it all out again, but it was based on the fact that your initial reaction was more scum like than town like in the fact that you weren't really trying to figure out what koshi was doing, and were just attacking him. You weren't curious, as I expect a townie who is having a WTF moment would be having.

After your initial reaction, you calmed down and started displaying more townie traits, but still, the initial reaction is what my read on you is based off of. Everything after that is "meh" to me. Does that not make sense?

Ok this is what I don't know what your talking about.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 07 2014 03:42 GMT
#335
On February 07 2014 12:30 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 12:23 sidesprang wrote:
On February 07 2014 12:15 Aquanim wrote:
Hey guys I'd like to discuss Suki

Filter in the original game as town: Asks lots of questions, discusses reads, VERY direct

Filter in this game: Mostly trolly one-liners about "King" Balla, doesn't talk much about reads unless directly asked, is not asking many questions.

I haven't thoroughly meta-d Suki but I'm really feeling a serious gap in her attitude between the two games.

I can't see any reason in Suki's filter to think she is town so far. Does anyone else have any?


Are you basing your scum read on Suki just off meta atm ?

I don't think acting another way from one game to another is a good way to meta someone, especially when the person have scumgames you can read. She was scum in Mafia Newbie Mafia LI I think, prolly better to start there. I played in that game and dont remember to much of the meta, other than she was good :S

It's a kind of half-meta case, in that her play so far does not seem to be directed towards scumhunting, and I can verify that she is capable and willing to direct her play towards scumhunting by checking a previous town game. The argument holds without any need to refer to her scumgames, though I would take a look at it if I were to start seriously pushing for her lynch. For now I want to discuss her play so far.

Putting aside your opinion of my methods, what's your read on suki so far?


By applying meta to Suki I dont really get a read either way.

I feel the last Shadowgame and her last Newbie game (scumgame), are vastly different from this game. atm she has trolled pretty much all game. Which I don't think is very allignment indicative, in fact I would rather lean town on a trolling Suki than scum. Because she has a strong scumgame, and she did get a lot of praise for it, I would assume she would try to uphold that standard.

But I guess my conclusion is, to early to say. And when Suki comes back I hope she picks it up and plays more seriously.
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 07 2014 03:42 GMT
#336
Basic thought progression for Jay's case on "sad Koshi"
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 07 2014 08:56 Aquanim wrote:
hihi

@jaybrundage: You've made a big long case about how Koshi would be excited to roll town and not happy if he rolled scum again, which I agree with as far as it goes.

However, I'm unconvinced by your evidence that Koshi is in fact unexcited by this game. Not posting with capslock enabled doesn't prove much about his enthusiasm.

Is there anything else about Koshi's filter and play which makes you think he's not excited to be in this game?

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Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 07 2014 03:46 GMT
#337
On February 07 2014 12:33 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 12:30 Aquanim wrote:
On February 07 2014 12:23 sidesprang wrote:
On February 07 2014 12:15 Aquanim wrote:
Hey guys I'd like to discuss Suki

Filter in the original game as town: Asks lots of questions, discusses reads, VERY direct

Filter in this game: Mostly trolly one-liners about "King" Balla, doesn't talk much about reads unless directly asked, is not asking many questions.

I haven't thoroughly meta-d Suki but I'm really feeling a serious gap in her attitude between the two games.

I can't see any reason in Suki's filter to think she is town so far. Does anyone else have any?


Are you basing your scum read on Suki just off meta atm ?

I don't think acting another way from one game to another is a good way to meta someone, especially when the person have scumgames you can read. She was scum in Mafia Newbie Mafia LI I think, prolly better to start there. I played in that game and dont remember to much of the meta, other than she was good :S

It's a kind of half-meta case, in that her play so far does not seem to be directed towards scumhunting, and I can verify that she is capable and willing to direct her play towards scumhunting by checking a previous town game. The argument holds without any need to refer to her scumgames, though I would take a look at it if I were to start seriously pushing for her lynch. For now I want to discuss her play so far.

Putting aside your opinion of my methods, what's your read on suki so far?


Just from memory, she scum hunts as scum and her scumgame resembles her towngame. Neither of which resemble this game at all. I've never seen her this trolly and happy, but that just be because of the way the game opened, how I opened etc. We know each other somewhat out of mafia, so it totally fits with her personality, but I can't compare this game to any of her previous games.

Essentially, her scumgame doesn't resemble this at all, so your meta argument I don't believe holds true. We'll see how she follows up.

Whether her play here resembles her scumgame isn't the point. Scumgames change - towngames tend not to as much.

Hell, the meta wasn't really the point at all - it was supplementary to the argument. The point is that Suki has done very little that I think would aid her in making reads on anyone, if she were town.

That being said, if you think that this more relaxed/trolly posture from a town Suki is possible based on your personal knowledge, I'll take that into consideration.

I definitely want to see what Suki has to say about the point Oats has raised.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 03:48 GMT
#338
On February 07 2014 12:42 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 07 2014 12:01 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:54 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

Balla talk to me why do you think my push on Koshi is scummy. I think while it isn't the most amazing case. It is after all an early day 1 case. And I think alot of things I said are completely true.


If you are referring to the big "case", I never said that was scummy. I said that it was ok, but I don't really like the fact that it's built off of koshi not being happy. It's new information, which is good, but the information isn't that great, you know? I don't think that case is scummy at all.

What I think was possibly scummy was your initial reaction to koshi's "fake vote". I explained multiple times so I don't really want to type it all out again, but it was based on the fact that your initial reaction was more scum like than town like in the fact that you weren't really trying to figure out what koshi was doing, and were just attacking him. You weren't curious, as I expect a townie who is having a WTF moment would be having.

After your initial reaction, you calmed down and started displaying more townie traits, but still, the initial reaction is what my read on you is based off of. Everything after that is "meh" to me. Does that not make sense?

Ok this is what I don't know what your talking about.


Ok. Here is what I said in regards to your reaction, I even quoted the post I was talking about (i think i'm getting pretty good at quoting heuheu). I said more about it in multiple other posts, but this is what I said at first. This is ONLY in response to the initial reaction to koshi, which is quoted within.

On February 07 2014 08:01 Balla24 wrote:
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On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.

I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.

I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.

Koshi is scum. I caught one :D


In fact, this post is so very scummy. If you are town, your reaction to these "fake votes" would be completely different. You would be confused and curious as to what they find scummy about what you said, or you would just think that it's totally trolly and ignore it.

Here you find it is scummy? What cause he thinks you feel off? Your response should have been "what feels off about me then oh wise one koshi" and not "you're scum".



The explanation for why I voted for you in the first place is here, they are relatively separate (not relevant to your reaction to koshi):

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On February 07 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
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On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.


You're making so many excuses for no reason. Why would you tryharding last game have anything to do with this game or how tough it's going to be? In fact, what are you trying to say when you say you "tryharded the shit out of last game"? What, are you implying you're not going to tryhard the shit out of this game, why not?

Scumhunting is scumhunting. Sure there's not much to talk about on day1 but that's where you make stuff to talk about and then scumhunt from there. There has been no effort to do that. Instead, all you have done is called my first post "icky", which was 100% totally intended to do just that, get people to start talking and scumhunting from the get go which should be pretty obvious to everybody, but for some reason you decided it was icky and then make excuses for what I can only assume is going to be bad scumhunting on day 1.

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On February 07 2014 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?

@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.

That first post. Ugh I'm still feeling icky from it.








jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 03:48 GMT
#339
On February 07 2014 12:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
Basic thought progression for Jay's case on "sad Koshi"
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On February 07 2014 08:56 Aquanim wrote:
hihi

@jaybrundage: You've made a big long case about how Koshi would be excited to roll town and not happy if he rolled scum again, which I agree with as far as it goes.

However, I'm unconvinced by your evidence that Koshi is in fact unexcited by this game. Not posting with capslock enabled doesn't prove much about his enthusiasm.

Is there anything else about Koshi's filter and play which makes you think he's not excited to be in this game?

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While I do like homer and the simpons in general. The image and my thought process having nothing in common. Don't misrepresent what I say please. You did this multiple times as scum last game.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 07 2014 03:53 GMT
#340
Jay are you gonna do something else day 1? I think we've heard enough about your case, dunno why Balla asks us to stop then he continues pressuring you.
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