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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 02:44 GMT
#301
I can't win with this town. If I give advice and try to make well thought out posts. Then I'm giving advice and I'm not scum hunting enough.

If I actively try to scum hunt and push things I think are scummy. Then I'm scummy for unknown reasons.

Pretty frustrating.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 07 2014 02:47 GMT
#302
I just showed you exactly why you are scummy jay, you cant keep your story straight and that story, even IF it was straight, is still scummy.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 07 2014 02:48 GMT
#303
n1 mislynch NA jay?
No gg, No skill.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 02:51 GMT
#304
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 02:52 GMT
#305
On February 07 2014 11:42 sidesprang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:38 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why were you even commenting on his first post? You thought he wrote it after he got his alignment?

It is day 1. What else do you do besides make small talk till you find someone who you think is scummy.


What are the reasons you find Koshi scummy now? Do you think Balla is mafia even if Koshi flips town?

The reasons I find Koshi scummy haven't changed. I am not sure about balla. I really didn't like one of his posts. Where he called me scummy for scum hunting on Koshi. But I'm not sure if I was so convicted that Koshi was scum that I assumed anyone defending him was his scum buddy.

However it might be just as likely that Balla was a townie trying to get some... I don't even know. Like I don't understand him defending Koshi so much when I was trying to scum hunt. Instead of looking at what I was representing. I don't understand scum reads on me. I mostly lurk as scum. As town I give reads freely and am much more carefree.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 02:52 GMT
#306
On February 07 2014 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
n1 mislynch NA jay?

Numba 1 Mislynch NA xD
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 07 2014 02:53 GMT
#307
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

What are you doing to push someone? Nothing.
No gg, No skill.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 02:54 GMT
#308
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

Balla talk to me why do you think my push on Koshi is scummy. I think while it isn't the most amazing case. It is after all an early day 1 case. And I think alot of things I said are completely true.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 07 2014 02:56 GMT
#309
On February 07 2014 11:54 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

Balla talk to me why do you think my push on Koshi is scummy. I think while it isn't the most amazing case. It is after all an early day 1 case. And I think alot of things I said are completely true.

Can you specify exactly which of the things you said you think are completely true?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2014 02:56 GMT
#310
Votecount:

Jaybrundage ( 4 ) : Balla24, Koshi, suki, Hopeless1der, Oatsmaster
JonnyLaw ( 1 ) : Suki, Koshi
Koshi ( 1 ) : jaybrundage
Balla24 ( 0 ) : Jaybrundage, suki
Aquanim ( 0 ) : Balla24

5 people who haven't voted yet: Aquanim, Alakaslam, Sidesprang, LoneMeow, JonnyLaw,
With 4 votes Jaybrundage is set to be lynched

Deadline on Saturday, Feb 08 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 03:01 GMT
#311
On February 07 2014 11:54 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

Balla talk to me why do you think my push on Koshi is scummy. I think while it isn't the most amazing case. It is after all an early day 1 case. And I think alot of things I said are completely true.


If you are referring to the big "case", I never said that was scummy. I said that it was ok, but I don't really like the fact that it's built off of koshi not being happy. It's new information, which is good, but the information isn't that great, you know? I don't think that case is scummy at all.

What I think was possibly scummy was your initial reaction to koshi's "fake vote". I explained multiple times so I don't really want to type it all out again, but it was based on the fact that your initial reaction was more scum like than town like in the fact that you weren't really trying to figure out what koshi was doing, and were just attacking him. You weren't curious, as I expect a townie who is having a WTF moment would be having.

After your initial reaction, you calmed down and started displaying more townie traits, but still, the initial reaction is what my read on you is based off of. Everything after that is "meh" to me. Does that not make sense?
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 03:02 GMT
#312
On February 07 2014 11:56 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:54 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

Balla talk to me why do you think my push on Koshi is scummy. I think while it isn't the most amazing case. It is after all an early day 1 case. And I think alot of things I said are completely true.

Can you specify exactly which of the things you said you think are completely true?

No, all the things I was thinking at that time are what I believed to be true. Plus I don't wanna tunnel in on Koshi. I need to get some perspective.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 03:08 GMT
#313
On February 07 2014 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

What are you doing to push someone? Nothing.


This is a really silly post Oats, like you have barely read the thread. I've done plenty. In fact your reads are mostly just sheeps off of what I created in the thread.

I have something for you:

On February 07 2014 11:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Aqua is being very very guiding without actually hunting scum.


Guiding as in more similar last game's jaybrundage, or he's being more similar to LoneMeow? To me Aquanim is being very similar to LoneMeow atm, but there's no real loaded questions like he had and he seems to be making conclusions about stuff in the thread. His questions seemed more to try to generate discussions, and he seems very eager to do so, but he's not really accomplishing it in my opinion.

Can you elaborate on aqua's "guidiness" and how he's not trying to hunt scum?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 07 2014 03:09 GMT
#314
On February 07 2014 11:52 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
n1 mislynch NA jay?

Numba 1 Mislynch NA xD

Totally being a dick here, but I call shenanigans:

+ Show Spoiler [jaybrundage] +
Mini Mafia X Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2
Student Mafia Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 2
Mr. Wiggles Mini Mafia I Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2
BCs Arkham City Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 5
Hammer Mini Mafia Town Tracker Survived
Kaller Game Town Voldermort Killed Night 3
TL Mafia LII: JubJub Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed
Hero Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4
Dessert Mini Mafia Mafia Roleblocker Survived Night 5
Nomination Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 4
Normal Mini Mafia IV Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2
British Empire Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Night 3
Roulette Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Endgamed Day 7
British Empire Mini Mafia II Mafia Roleblocker Lynched Day 1

maybe there are missing games, but that shows 7 lynches, 3 as scum, 4 as town.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 07 2014 03:15 GMT
#315
Hey guys I'd like to discuss Suki

Filter in the original game as town: Asks lots of questions, discusses reads, VERY direct

Filter in this game: Mostly trolly one-liners about "King" Balla, doesn't talk much about reads unless directly asked, is not asking many questions.

I haven't thoroughly meta-d Suki but I'm really feeling a serious gap in her attitude between the two games.

I can't see any reason in Suki's filter to think she is town so far. Does anyone else have any?
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 03:16 GMT
#316
On February 07 2014 12:01 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:54 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

Balla talk to me why do you think my push on Koshi is scummy. I think while it isn't the most amazing case. It is after all an early day 1 case. And I think alot of things I said are completely true.


If you are referring to the big "case", I never said that was scummy. I said that it was ok, but I don't really like the fact that it's built off of koshi not being happy. It's new information, which is good, but the information isn't that great, you know? I don't think that case is scummy at all.

What I think was possibly scummy was your initial reaction to koshi's "fake vote". I explained multiple times so I don't really want to type it all out again, but it was based on the fact that your initial reaction was more scum like than town like in the fact that you weren't really trying to figure out what koshi was doing, and were just attacking him. You weren't curious, as I expect a townie who is having a WTF moment would be having.

After your initial reaction, you calmed down and started displaying more townie traits, but still, the initial reaction is what my read on you is based off of. Everything after that is "meh" to me. Does that not make sense?

Hmm So rereading it. I responded to your vote. Cause it was like a foolishness cameo. I had voted you semi-jokingly before. So I didn't take it seriously. I didn't respond to Koshi's vote because it just seemed like a throwaway/joke vote. Then I posted my thing about him not being excited enough in his first post.

Then you posted your thing about me not commentating on them. But I actually had commentated on one of them. Which was yours. But I didn't feel a reason to comment on them indepth because they didn't seem like real votes in the first place from what I thought.

Does that make sense?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 03:19 GMT
#317
On February 07 2014 12:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:52 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
n1 mislynch NA jay?

Numba 1 Mislynch NA xD

Totally being a dick here, but I call shenanigans:

+ Show Spoiler [jaybrundage] +
Mini Mafia X Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2
Student Mafia Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 2
Mr. Wiggles Mini Mafia I Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2
BCs Arkham City Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 5
Hammer Mini Mafia Town Tracker Survived
Kaller Game Town Voldermort Killed Night 3
TL Mafia LII: JubJub Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed
Hero Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4
Dessert Mini Mafia Mafia Roleblocker Survived Night 5
Nomination Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 4
Normal Mini Mafia IV Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2
British Empire Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Night 3
Roulette Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Endgamed Day 7
British Empire Mini Mafia II Mafia Roleblocker Lynched Day 1

maybe there are missing games, but that shows 7 lynches, 3 as scum, 4 as town.

Well the plan is too out grow the title eventually
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 07 2014 03:20 GMT
#318
On February 07 2014 11:52 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:42 sidesprang wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:38 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why were you even commenting on his first post? You thought he wrote it after he got his alignment?

It is day 1. What else do you do besides make small talk till you find someone who you think is scummy.


What are the reasons you find Koshi scummy now? Do you think Balla is mafia even if Koshi flips town?

The reasons I find Koshi scummy haven't changed. I am not sure about balla. I really didn't like one of his posts. Where he called me scummy for scum hunting on Koshi. But I'm not sure if I was so convicted that Koshi was scum that I assumed anyone defending him was his scum buddy.

However it might be just as likely that Balla was a townie trying to get some... I don't even know. Like I don't understand him defending Koshi so much when I was trying to scum hunt. Instead of looking at what I was representing. I don't understand scum reads on me. I mostly lurk as scum. As town I give reads freely and am much more carefree.



Regarding your Koshi case I think it is a really weak meta case, and you better get more meat on it if you wanna try to push it again. The fact that you are so sure in it, I find strange. As you said yourself it's just an early D1 case..

And the Balla thing I really struggle to find scum motivation for him defending Scum!Koshi, mainly because your attack is so early and it so weak. I really doubt a scum would feel the need to bother about that case at all. Aka I think it's highly unlikely they are scum together.

I think it's to early to call you scum, mostly cause I struggle to see a scum going as hard and fast out of the gates as you did. But I definetly don't like your play so far.

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 03:22 GMT
#319
On February 07 2014 12:15 Aquanim wrote:
Hey guys I'd like to discuss Suki

Filter in the original game as town: Asks lots of questions, discusses reads, VERY direct

Filter in this game: Mostly trolly one-liners about "King" Balla, doesn't talk much about reads unless directly asked, is not asking many questions.

I haven't thoroughly meta-d Suki but I'm really feeling a serious gap in her attitude between the two games.

I can't see any reason in Suki's filter to think she is town so far. Does anyone else have any?

Yea I didn't like her play so much as I mentioned in my response to her earlier. I hesitated on calling her scum tho lol. I had already been pretty ambitious with calling people scum this game.

I found it odd that she ignored my correction of her post where she is trolling me. But is completely wrong on it because she mixed up which post came first. I would of expected an opps or oh my thing. But she didn't even comment on it. That just seemed odd to me. As suki is usually first to make amends when she makes a mistake.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 07 2014 03:22 GMT
#320
On February 07 2014 12:08 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

What are you doing to push someone? Nothing.


This is a really silly post Oats, like you have barely read the thread. I've done plenty. In fact your reads are mostly just sheeps off of what I created in the thread.

I have something for you:

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Aqua is being very very guiding without actually hunting scum.


Guiding as in more similar last game's jaybrundage, or he's being more similar to LoneMeow? To me Aquanim is being very similar to LoneMeow atm, but there's no real loaded questions like he had and he seems to be making conclusions about stuff in the thread. His questions seemed more to try to generate discussions, and he seems very eager to do so, but he's not really accomplishing it in my opinion.

Can you elaborate on aqua's "guidiness" and how he's not trying to hunt scum?

The part where he doesnt ask anyone questions that are hard to answer, but mainly asking them to clarify and phrase their points better.

The point I was making is that you asked us to stop harping abotu JayB but you arent doing anything away from that. Which is totally true.
No gg, No skill.
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