[C][M][T] Survivor Series Mafia

On February 08 2014 12:28 geript wrote:
Where'd VE go? Not in TS anymore Explain to me why you didn't autopark your vote on me when you were expecting me to troll this game?

On February 08 2014 16:43 yamato77 wrote:

I'm really just waiting for something to happen.

On February 08 2014 11:24 yamato77 wrote:
If you're going to complain about unreadables, you should be looking at Risen/Oats

On February 08 2014 18:40 yamato77 wrote:
Was my post unclear? There's literally no good way to tell Slam's alignment early on. He's established that he will play incoherently as both alignments. Voting analysis is the best way to tell his intentions.

On February 08 2014 17:07 geript wrote:
Actually, instead of answering that VE, tell me if you plan to approach Cora using the GERIPT IN THE GAME (tm) approach to Cora. That's the best option imo.

On February 08 2014 19:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Do you think asking about Slam's vote or geript's scumhunting strategy counts as inquisitive?

On February 09 2014 05:42 WaveofShadow wrote:

Any relevant thoughts?


Ohai VE, can we let's have talk plz?
VE, why was Cora's answer here

acceptable to you? It looks as though this was you letting HIM 'off the hook' considering how quickly he dropped it after a smile from you.

And considering Cora's posting in the game so far, you categorize him as 'lazy' townie? He doesn't look lazy to me.

On February 11 2014 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So why is one of me or marv or both scum?

On February 11 2014 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because you never really wanted to lynch Vayne. I would expect more from you, especially in this game where players are not bad. Why are you not playing VE?

On February 11 2014 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And where did the scumread on Koshi go?

On February 11 2014 04:59 WaveofShadow wrote:

VE are you town?
Tell me straight up.

People fucking TALK to me

On February 11 2014 05:25 WaveofShadow wrote:

OO me likey.
This is reminiscent of the VE of old, not the passive shadow of a man who stands before me.

I have to look at what geript said and see if any of it holds water---I think I may do my own first and then compare what he said to what I come up with.

On February 11 2014 05:35 geript wrote:
Question VE. You say you don't think palmar would lynch town knowing they're town. But isn't that like exactly what he did in LXI (the game he's all pissy at me at which is weird because I figure he'd carry a grudge towards Marv and BH too). For some reason I remember him saying he got Oats (d1 maybe) and Yamato (d5-6 maybe) and maybe someone else lynched for funsies and because they thought Palmar was scum.

On February 11 2014 04:49 Palmar wrote:
In sake of fairness, it's actually quite uncharacteristic for me to accept a wagon I don't feel good about. generally I'm all like "I never vote townies, no compromises". so VE isn't wrong.

On February 11 2014 10:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't think there is any reason to do this line-up as mafia unless there is 1 mafia of the 3 so it is an important lynch imo. Would they risk killing off 1 at the cost of 2 unlynchable strong players? doubtful

On February 11 2014 10:51 marvellosity wrote:

Which 3 players would you expect to be nominated if you thought it would be an all-town lynch?

On February 12 2014 00:28 marvellosity wrote:

How are you today, sweetcheeks?

How did your filter-dive last night go?

On February 12 2014 00:40 Koshi wrote:
Damn, I should have pushed that VA read yesterday so much harder :/

On February 12 2014 01:15 marvellosity wrote:

I've never been wrong when I've guaranteed someone's alignment. Just factor that in <3

On February 09 2014 18:16 yamato77 wrote:

So he doesn't read as scum? That's a non-sequitur.

What I said was, this is similar to how he was playing in Quiet Game, which is true.

Also, his reads are pathetically shallow and he doesn't seem very interested in furthering them, either. When asked, he basically just said, "Yeah, I think he (Palmar) is scum but I'm not going to do anything until he comes back."

Weeeeeeeak. No one but Palmar has been strongly pushing any of their reads and I'm tired of letting these low-effort players play like this.

I mean, this town is like, drowning in nonchalance. Where's the impetus?

On February 13 2014 01:53 Palmar wrote:


Key words. pls respnond VE

I need you friend.

On February 13 2014 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
meh. I guess what I was getting at was this.

Does it look like a case made on you because it's super easy to make a case on you because your play has been "lacking" and he's just picking up on these aspects blindly because it's convenient to do so

Or does it look like he's genuinely thought about what he's brought up and why it makes you, VE, mafia, instead of town

Or is the truth perhaps somewhere in between and you can't tell

On February 13 2014 02:07 Grackaroni wrote:
Well I'm one of the more heavily involved players in this game right now and all I do is post one liners.

On February 14 2014 03:52 yamato77 wrote:
I hope I get nominated.

On February 13 2014 07:50 Keirathi wrote:
EBWOP: Also, while Palmar and yam had basically the same attitude post-Cora lynch, there are plenty of other redeeming qualities in Palmar's filter. Not so much with yam.

On February 16 2014 02:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
You don't though, if you're town then you're well aware that I can play this way as town. So the easy conclusion to draw is that you're scum.

On February 16 2014 02:47 Holyflare wrote:
Trying to work things out, berated for posting. THAT'S why it's most likely to end tonight. Guess I'll just resume avoiding this thread again.

On February 16 2014 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
After me arguing with him and him calling me scum and almost getting me lynched it was an easy call to put him up there. Nobody listened to anything i wrote about him and after i made a big case on him i suddenly received 4 votes on me that wouldn't leave.

On February 16 2014 10:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
This means we dont lose the game lol. I would rather kill Risen than yamato actually

On February 16 2014 08:10 Risen wrote:

Is it that you don't have any idea what my thought process is? Then why not ask me? Is it that you have thoughts on it but wasn't too potentially sheep ve? Why not voice your own opinion on it when asking for another person's. This feels very carefully worded to me.

Back to afk land, but I am interested in what ve's answer will be.

On February 16 2014 19:34 Palmar wrote:
Why do you care about the game now that we're lynching mafia?

On February 17 2014 11:34 Risen wrote:
Ve thoughts on what I've said?

On February 17 2014 23:10 Palmar wrote:


Are you serious?

So do you think I bussed Keirathi instantly on day 1? Are you saying I volunteered to die for marv, knowing marv would instead want to die himself on day 2? Are you saying that I willingly prolonged the game by making keirathi the lynch yesterday? I'm like 90% sure I could've lynched you instead.

On February 17 2014 23:36 Risen wrote:
Oh man if palmar is scum I think we can afford to lynch me next cycle

On February 17 2014 23:37 Palmar wrote:


You had no influence in town and you were fine with it.

If you think I'm scum I'm by definition not being thick-headed and ignorant, as that would mean I'd know I was being wrong. I think I'm being right.

Do you agree with Holyflare that Grack is scum VE?

On February 17 2014 23:40 Palmar wrote:


If you're both town, we're better off with you alive.

On February 17 2014 23:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think everyone is town in todays nomination but VE the least townie and this push on Palmar smells really really bad.

On February 18 2014 00:00 Palmar wrote:


Why do you assume I'm lying.

I'm begging you to work with me. I have no idea why you are so against it. Hell if you can prove to me Grack is scum, I'll lynch him today, but then you'd also have to explain why you didn't just vote him last nomination lynch over Koshi.

I really, really want to know who you think is scum, and why.

Can you please do this for me?

On February 18 2014 00:26 Palmar wrote:


It's optimal play for you as both alignments to stay here and have a discussion with me.

On February 10 2014 05:55 Palmar wrote:
ok I'm back. My reading of the last few pages has been a bit sketchy, but whatever.

I don't think I want to lynch Kosher. Other people I don't want to lynch include WoS, Oats, myself, Risen etc.

I worry about the Cora wagon. I pointed out some inconsistency in his play myself, but his random vote on me there before he switched is really head scratching if he's mafia. Now his is obviously not going to make much sense to anyone but myself, but given how he's been wanting to kill me and been casually calling me out all game, it seems like a strange vote as it makes it more likely he'll flip AND if he flips mafia he's basically confirming me as town.

So knowing my own alignment, his move just doesn't make any sense if he's mafia.

I'd much rather lynch somewhere into geript, marv, VE, rayn, or even holyfare.

I'm unsure about yamato...

On February 18 2014 02:18 Holyflare wrote:
I've been there ve, 2 days ago, got so mad at him that i thought he was scum and was picking everything out of his filter as scummy. He wouldn't be scum in a marv/rayn/palmar lynch because he was most likely to die

On February 18 2014 02:23 Oatsmaster wrote:

Well he doesnt want you dead cause he thinks you are scum. He wants you dead because of the possibility that you are scum.

On February 19 2014 01:43 Palmar wrote:
@VE why did mafia put you up over holyflare?

On February 19 2014 01:45 yamato77 wrote:

As with anything in mafia, everything I say can be assumed to be qualified with the statement "I could be wrong, but".

As for my perspective, yes, it's likely solved, which is why I find it important to argue down my lynch. Still, it's still a good idea to have an idea of why we pick who we pick to lynch outside of the four of us (me, you, VE, HF), which is why I asked you about Oats specifically.

On February 19 2014 05:23 Palmar wrote:
VE why are we clearing HF based on this Koshi thing.

Is it possible HF/Oats/ (Risen/WoS) is the mafia team?