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Yeah I've just read through the thread. I guess I'll try my best to not be an asshole this game in order to delay my lynch for a few cycles. Plus you quoted me to support your attack on Koshi which is great for the ego. Koshi is more than willing to buddy Rayn as scum as well so him not doing it this game isn't the best argument for Koshi being scum, and as Marv already mentioned they weren't even posting at the same time. | ||
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On February 09 2014 11:35 Koshi wrote: One might say I buddy rayn even harder as scum. Telling him he is the best player in the game so that he kills the people that want to kill me. Those poor sods. Those guys must have been really clueless to get killed like that. I must say I've never been in a Geript game, but he is definitely living up to his ban list reputation | ||
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On February 09 2014 07:57 Corazon wrote: Yeah I really don't feel like defending myself. I'm just gonna wait for Yamato to reply to my message. Btw, you guys should look into Palmar's vote of Geript. Wouldn't it make a lot of sense for scum to try and rile up Geript for no reason? On February 09 2014 10:58 Corazon wrote: We could always lynch Palmar for going after Geript, because attacking Geript is a pretty easy thing to do as scum. Cora do you want to vote Palmar? | ||
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On February 09 2014 11:49 Corazon wrote: Not yet. I'll give Palmar some more time to do something useful. You think he's scum though right? | ||
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You've been insinuating that he is scum/should be lynched. | ||
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On February 09 2014 16:19 VayneAuthority wrote: nah lousy scum. it works for this playerlist since there is very few people that lurk here. Please write a list of all players in this game that you view as less desirable so that I can see if this strategy is optimal for my scum team. | ||
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On February 09 2014 10:36 marvellosity wrote: It doesn't involve you simply trusting me, because it makes sense. It's the making sense part that's different from the blind trust part. Jeez :/ Anyway, the Cora thing. I didn't mind his big post like you did. I even saved it to talk about it but I decided not to. Essentially it seems pretty possible that he believes that what yamato did was genuinely misrepresenting him, even though what yamato said was actually totally fine. I *think* I'd expect a town-Cora to think that way more than a mafia-Cora, perhaps? I expect a certain level of productivity from him though which I've not really seen so far. So that mini-read will only get him so far. Can you elaborate on this? Why did you think that post is more indicative of town-cora? | ||
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On February 10 2014 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote: lol what how is marv unreadable? Koshi, what do you think about his read on me then? Is it bad? Why doesnt it make him scum? Well I can't read him. Problem must be on his end. Silly Marv such unreadable. | ||
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On February 10 2014 02:00 marvellosity wrote: Not going to argue with you Grack as you seem essentially incapable of understanding basic mafia concepts. No I actually just think it's laughable that you think that people are scum for trying to lynch you. Now why did you think Corazon was town before, and why are you voting for him now? | ||
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On February 10 2014 02:01 Oatsmaster wrote: a vote is a significant amount of effort considering you only have 1 of them. Maybe I think marv is scum because im never around when marv is so I cant chat with him and shit. You think Marv is scum because he had a shitty reason for voting you. | ||
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On February 10 2014 02:19 Corazon wrote: Lol no I'm not going to die. You guys are gonna switch targets before the deadline. Rayn's going to go berserk and change his read and get the town to vote for someone else. Fool! The fastest way to gain Rayn's vote is to insult Rayn's play. | ||
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On February 10 2014 02:23 Koshi wrote: Oh wow. It is happening. Nah that's just Cora. | ||
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##Vote: VayneAuthority We can lynch Vayne. | ||
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On February 10 2014 02:58 Palmar wrote: I'm no a huge fan of either wagon atm. I'll admit i haven't read much of kosher what are the wagons? Koshi/Vayne/Cora? | ||
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On February 10 2014 03:09 VayneAuthority wrote: well let's be honest there's really nothing here for me to analyze yet, but it's such a small game that if i have to die day 1 then whatevs which meta did you roll this game? | ||
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##Unvote: VA ##Vote: Risen | ||
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On February 10 2014 06:25 geript wrote: Palmar is there a reason you're specifically ignoring a Grack lynch? Hi | ||
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On February 10 2014 06:26 Palmar wrote: yes Grack is my scumbuddy. Are you? I would think I would have bussed you by now. | ||
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On February 10 2014 06:45 geript wrote: ##vote Grackaroni First off, we can all agree that Grack's been useless this game. Unfortunately, this isn't alignment indicative of him though. There are some good reasons for him to be scum. + Show Spoiler [filters] + 1.He's objectively weird but no one has been interested in discussing him. Like he's gotten a complete free pass. 2. The Cora lynch has too much steam. There are way too many people ok with lynching Cora right now for it to end up being a good lynch. On top of that, Cora reacted to Palmar exactly how I had which should be a good litmus test. 3. Grack has bounced around to 3 different people with completely shitty reasons every time. 4. We get to avoid super awkward situations like happened in LXIV. 5. Grack has more swagger as town than he has as scum. Hell he's voted for himself both times as town (once was for mayor). He's also far more negative as scum than he is as town. It's weird to try and describe, but I'm not seeing any sense of confidence coming out of Grack. Most of his statements this game have been qualified: "I do think it could be" "I might be ok" "But you haven't done anything to try to solve the game?" There's a serious disconnect between these posts and how I read him in his other town games. 6. This is weak, but in his scum games he also uses quotes more than he does as town. It feels like his lack of confidence wants him to pad his filter with extra space. That's the bullet point. Rayn/VE your thoughts. This is the only part I'm going to address. I'm definitely less confident about being correct with reads this game; I don't have anyone I really want to lynch too strongly except maybe Marv but he's actually made himself hard to read by just refusing to chat with me. | ||
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On February 10 2014 07:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Who makes a case that says "Grack is mafia because Corazon lynch is too easy". srsly? Geript? If Cora is mafia then he is probably being pretty heavily bussed by now. I don't think mafia would be trying to save him at this point. | ||
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On February 10 2014 08:18 Koshi wrote: How sure are you that I am town Grack? Koshi totes town. | ||
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Marv would be the only one in that group to possibly nominate himself of course. | ||
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On February 10 2014 10:11 Holyflare wrote: Grack, why did you take no stance on Cora the entire game despite him being the main wagon, the most voted player, looking scummy and being town? You even questioned his intentions with Palmar here: What did you think of his responses and then why did you not portray those feelings to us so as to give us more information on the main lynch candidate? Also, why did you use a throwaway vote on risen with no explanation: but then not push for his lynch, question him or argue with him (seeing as you just stated that arguing with your scum suspect is good) I think it will be easier if I just give my thought process for the day. I joined the game and read the thread. I didn't see anything I found very scummy, but Corazon was acting like an indifferent observer so I thought that would be good to pressure. (Not in a way that I think he is necessarily scum more that I want to see how he reacts and how other people would respond.) Then he wasn't really interested in talking so I moved on to Marv, who got pissy that I troll voted him and he wouldn't talk to me either. Then I figured Koshi was town and that nobody else was pushing Vayne too hard so I was ok lynching him. BUT then Vayne seemed like he genuinely didn't know anything this game which was really in contrast to last game where it seemed like he knew everything and told town nothing so I settled with Risen because safe + lazy. If it was a close lynch I would have moved my vote either on to Corazon or on to somebody else depending on the situation. Then a townie got lynched. And then I blamed Marv because Marv. | ||
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On February 10 2014 10:38 Oatsmaster wrote: Why is risen scum grack? I don't know if he is scum. There was nobody else I felt strongly about lynching though. Safe as in difficult to read and bad reads as town. | ||
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Marv made himself hard to read so I went with a safe lynch rather than a riskier lynch. I could have voted Marv, but I'm not sold on him either. It depends on who the lynch candidates were. If it was between Oats and Cora I would have moved to Cora. If it was between Cora and WoS there is definitely a possibility I would have moved it to WoS. | ||
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On February 10 2014 10:52 Oatsmaster wrote: thats horrifically bad reasoning. Why didnt you put any effort into asking him and shit? I don't know what you expect from me right now I made it explicitly clear when I voted Risen that I had pretty much given up on finding scum this cycle. | ||
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On February 10 2014 13:39 geript wrote: Wave, can't talk. In bathroom hiding phone usage. Look at Grack. <3 Now that is super scummy. | ||
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I don't understand why everybody think WoS is so townie? | ||
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And yeah VE thing was wtf. | ||
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On February 11 2014 05:33 WaveofShadow wrote: No wait, HF I was right you didn't talk about him today that was all yesterday's stuff, and it wasn't much at all. I like that you tried to get him to explain his Koshi townread (which is what I want from the entire damn thread) but he just offers the same thing as everyone else 'He doesn't look like scum Koshi.' K filtering No thats not true I said Koshi's posting seemed carefree so far which is the exact same metric that I used to push scum Koshi in SMB. You used that reasoning earlier (and my own post) to push Koshi as scum this game and now you're just completely ignoring it? | ||
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On February 11 2014 06:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Yes it is the same metric, but you talked about it specifically from the POV of the EARLY point in the game. I believe your post was about him reading his role PM and being depressed? Would you expect a scum Koshi to be depressed about reading his scum role PM the entire game? And as far as Koshi goes, nobody wants to talk to me about him or explain anything to me so I see no point in continuing to tunnel all game. If you can't already tell, I don't appreciate anti-town activity. No I said he was scum like 1/2 way through day1. It's just an overall feel not like when somebody randomly seems really angry right after scum gets shot or something. Plus he wrote a case that seemed really strange for him to believe as town. | ||
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On February 11 2014 10:54 VayneAuthority wrote: in my scenario, grack most likely gets lynched 100% as town but yuo can't fully trust the other 2. | ||
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On February 11 2014 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote: Grack answer my question in my post about you. I'll be back shortly. What was the question? | ||
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On February 11 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote: Post is here. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442512¤tpage=57#1124 And yeah marv you and I clearly need to break up for a while. Oh that's just the next phase of the game. I guess it would be more accurate to say I'm just waiting for the day 3 lynch since I'm probably going to put a lot more thought into that one. | ||
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His only possible motivaition there is to spread suspicion. | ||
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Sorry Palmar is the more entertaining player. | ||
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On February 11 2014 11:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah no, not acceptable Grack. Answer my question. Or are you saying that you mistook the word 'nominations' for Day 3? What are you even looking to get out of your question? I didn't mistake anything I said I probably wasn't going to do anything until nominations and now, after thinking about it, it would be more accurate to say I probably wasn't going to do much until day3. Vayne is a cool pick up though I'll parse through his filter later. He likes to bus. | ||
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On February 11 2014 11:49 WaveofShadow wrote: And you just expect people to take your word for it? Hell, even if you do pick up your activity on Day 3, that's the most scum-motivated thing you could do since for scum, nominations voting day is 'free.' You have extra time to find scum and you should be using it. I don't understand anything you're trying to accomplish this game other than being a troll. If you're town, shape up. If not, get lynched. Is there some sort of trap that you were trying to set with this question or are you just trying to reinforce the point that I'm useless? | ||
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On February 11 2014 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote: No traps, I'm genuinely curious. It seems you have resolved to be nothing but useless so I see no reason to keep you around. It's a shame I can't do so right now, but then again, you wouldn't have said what you did if you could be eliminated right now, would you have? The fact that you assume that whatever you do a day from now will change my mind doesn't make me feel better about you. So why were you so interested in my response to that question? What did you expect to get out of it? | ||
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Time to Die. Titanic 2 I get progressively lazier over time. Same goes for my town games lol. | ||
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On February 11 2014 11:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Because I wanted to see if you had some sort of plan/read that was pending on who got nominated. I wanted to see if you would offer something to the thread besides nothing. Is that strange to you? Should I have expected to get nothing out of you? It's a little strange to me because you made it seem like it's an extremely important question for determining my alignment and it is actually pretty useless. | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:57 Koshi wrote: 100% marv guarentee accomplished. My guarantee way stronger than Marvs. | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:02 marvellosity wrote: Risen didn't have a Palmar-point beyond "paranoia for no reason" No he's right. If Palmar is scum then he can make it to the end without having to do much else of anything this game; we are pretty much accepting he is town at that point. | ||
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lol Rayn I wouldn't base my lynch on how high I am on your list because your reads change drastically on the flip of a hat. | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote: OH YEAH KOSHI. Oats/geript/Vayne/Koshi. ftw. lulz | ||
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That's why the Grack guarantee is > than the Marv guarantee. | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:24 Koshi wrote: rofl. So true. Why do you ask so many silly questions this game Grack? Like the one with Oats after I quoted a million questions already? Most of my questions are asked for a reason. And then there's some in there that are obviously just useless like whether the deadline is near or Kushm4sta meta. | ||
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On February 12 2014 03:19 VisceraEyes wrote: I for one find this post ironic and would like everyone to reflect on its significance. Ok reflecting now. | ||
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On February 10 2014 09:33 yamato77 wrote: If this is the standard of play I am to expect from other town players in this game, I will have a tough time actually finding mafia. shit my read looks wrong. | ||
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On February 12 2014 04:20 VayneAuthority wrote: i reclaim the unreadable belt after this game, unless anyone thinks im town. and marv continues his streak of never being able to read me Who stole that belt from you? | ||
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On February 10 2014 06:56 VisceraEyes wrote: I've literally never been able to correctly identify Grack's alignment. On February 11 2014 22:23 marvellosity wrote: I don't really know how to read Grack though, because he doesn't ever do anything. As mafia in... Golden Sun, he came across very sensibly, kinda like here. On February 11 2014 05:57 WaveofShadow wrote: You've mentioned fake rage a shit ton in this game and while I agreed with you when applied to Koshi I'd like to see some actual supporting content now because shitting on people from the sidelines is not helpful and grack-y. This one doesn't have much to do with unreadability but it was pretty good. On February 10 2014 05:26 Risen wrote: Any reason I've been grouped with them? (Activity? Reasoning behind my reads lacking? Something else?) On February 11 2014 21:37 Koshi wrote: Grack will die. VA will die. First this guy ##invite ##vote: raynpolikoneet lulz On February 11 2014 10:54 VayneAuthority wrote: in my scenario, grack most likely gets lynched 100% as town but yuo can't fully trust the other 2. Bow to your master. On February 12 2014 00:03 Palmar wrote: Btw, this is my current view of the game: Town -> Scum Corazon Palmar marvellosity raynpelikoneet Koshi Risen WaveofShadow Holyflare Grackaroni yamato77 Oatsmaster VisceraEyes geript VayneAuthority *Note that being placed in the middle of a reads list is the ultimate goal of unreadability. HF beat me out this time. You're scum though and everyone read you correctly so that belt is mine. | ||
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On February 09 2014 09:48 marvellosity wrote: boo. Odin would have been so much easier to read. I just remembered a good one that I missed because it didn't have my name. | ||
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On February 11 2014 21:25 Koshi wrote: gut read tbh. Not enough funzies while he interacts with people. Also he doesn't trow out outrageous claims of scum out in the open or just baits people to find out what they think. It's all serious questions and dumb stupid boring not understandable questions. A collection: Making fun of Marv. Trying to Read Marv What did you expect me find out where all of the votes were parked myself!? For funzies Switch where votes were parked for when lynch deadline is. Important. I didn't remember that/Useless Fun/speculation Scuuuumhunting. Because Marv's bad meta/making fun of the time Rayn used bad meta. Because everyone is saying that nobody is looking into me when in fact everybody is looking at me. Probably could have done without the question mark. Good enough for me. Not sure about everyone else. Obviously I'm going to need to know how much I will have to post in the coming days to avoid that deadly lynch. His question was really useless so I forgot about it. Important. Important/same question as last time. Also nomination days are free for all non-townie looking players hue hue hue. Same as above. Answer to useless question in question form. I should read Hogwarts or something but I am certain he is more challenging/brave in there. I don't think the misslynch in SMB has anything to do with this. If it really bothered him he would have said that already a couple times. | ||
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On February 12 2014 08:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Lol at all the nominees voting for themselves. Yeah fuck this game...if the people who scum want dead don't even want to pay then I can't be bothered either. Gg scum. Who the fuck votes for themselves in this situation. What a bunch of useless trolls. How do you even read people like that? I agree with VE. I would totally be contributing right now if it weren't for those 3 guys and their. . . shenanigans. | ||
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On February 12 2014 10:47 Oatsmaster wrote: WHATS THE POINT OF THIS WAVE? DONT YOU THINK YOU CAN READ KEIRATHI WITHOUT A VOTE ON HIM? Why are you immediately voting for him without him posting anything? This is actually the first Oats post I have ever read where I thought, "this has to be fake. There's no way" | ||
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Nope. You're scum. | ||
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On February 12 2014 11:50 Grackaroni wrote: You feel pretty off this game. When I was mafia in Golden Sun you made a really threatening series of questions and I thought you were going to trap me. here you asked me why I was going to wait until nominations and said it was important to your read of me and then proceeded to bash on my laziness. It wasn't even like you got anything out of questioning me at the end you just said if you are town shape up. | ||
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On February 12 2014 12:14 WaveofShadow wrote: Because you didn't answer me when I wanted you to. I even explained exactly why I questioned you. No traps, I wanted to see if I could get you to be useful. Why are you re-asking me things we've already been over? You said it was important for my alignment though. I looked back at SMB. You're right I did mention role PMs when talking about Koshi. That was just my way of saying that Koshi looks like he is having less fun in the game when he is mafia. It definitely isn't an early game only sort of thing. | ||
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On February 12 2014 12:22 WaveofShadow wrote: It was important for me to be able to determine your alignment if you could come up with a useful and coherent response at the time. You didn't/couldn't so I couldn't make a judgment call. It's way easier for me to do that when I can actually talk with people and I believe up to that point we hadn't had a proper conversation? Let's talk about Oats a little. Why is his weird ragey thing indicative of scum? It just seemed super strange. My impression of him is that normally he's a fairly reasonable person and then he gets more and more ridiculous over time while arguing with people until he makes posts like that. This time it just came out of nowhere which makes me think it's forced. When I looked at his filter he hasn't gotten himself in any real shit fest yet this game. | ||
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On February 12 2014 12:24 WaveofShadow wrote: Just in case what? None of them were scum. Sometimes it's really hard to remember who is posting what and how much they are posting! | ||
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On February 12 2014 12:37 Oatsmaster wrote: well if geript didnt replace i wouldnt think its a big deal. I just think its weird that wave is willing to totally ignore/lynch keir even though he clearly wants to play the game and will give input, scum or not. If I were to go through a quick search through your games would I find you voting for a replacement at the start of a day? Would I find you ignoring other people voting for a replacement at the start of a day? I have a strong feeling that I would. | ||
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##Vote: Holyflare I guess we can table this for the time being. I agree with Vayne regardless of whatever weird contradiction he had in his mind earlier and whatever weird town slipping Yamato might have done if he is scum. | ||
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On February 12 2014 23:13 marvellosity wrote: Good job I've got Grack here to parrot me, dunno what i'd do without him When you have 19 pages of spam on essentially day2 chances are people will be repeating things that you say. | ||
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On February 13 2014 00:28 marvellosity wrote: This question strikes me as exceptionally odd. Don't worry. He just wants my advice because of my brilliant scum plays. | ||
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On February 13 2014 01:59 marvellosity wrote: Anyone can answer this question if they like beeteedubs. In depth reasoning gets extra brownie points. the first one. | ||
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On February 13 2014 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote: If you think it's the first one Grack, then why are you voting for Holyflare instead of Keir? I don't really care too much one way or another. Vayne will be lynched today regardless of anything I write and I think I'm ok with it. | ||
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On February 13 2014 02:18 marvellosity wrote: Quite a good reason not to so again :p Whenever I sheep I lynch town :/ Yeah but he was acting like a total Palmar. Definitely a pro-town lynch if I've ever seen one. | ||
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On February 13 2014 02:23 marvellosity wrote: Can I tell you a secret? I've not even read that post. :< You know Holy has done this thing before in Time to DIe where he repeatedly promises that cases are on the way and then he struggles to deliver and completely disappears. | ||
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On February 13 2014 02:49 marvellosity wrote: VA hates being mislynched. This sounds vaguely familiar. | ||
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On February 13 2014 02:58 marvellosity wrote: I just had the dangerous thought that Grack could well be town :< Best veer away from thoughts like those. | ||
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On February 13 2014 03:03 marvellosity wrote: no, I have no theories beyond VA right now. Well I'd suggest sticking with the bussing triangle one if you want to include me on your scum team. I like that one because I would use it as mafia just for that single day that I look amazing at catching mafia for getting rid of Holyflare. | ||
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Then I'll replace out the other half with the fact that Palmar and Marv both wanted to lynch me more than Rayn and you basing you openly placing your vote on who views you as town and then trying to lynch me for that reason. | ||
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On February 13 2014 08:04 Holyflare wrote: Your posting is also indicative of an agenda of "holyflare is afk let's get a mislynch wagon on him" when you have stated yourself that VA was scum based on a slip. Your reason for voting me was "I'll explain tomorrow", "I can't explain but let's lynch him anyway". Heh that's always my reasoning. I never find time to get it to it though. Such a shame. | ||
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On February 12 2014 05:31 Holyflare wrote: also will most probably be voting for palmar because i think marv's/rayn's read are more correct and they can read me a lot better alsoooooooooooooo giant walls of text will be coming | ||
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On February 13 2014 08:20 Palmar wrote: So... you're saying you're awful town? Being right is like the least useful skill in mafia. People keep harping on "I was right but town was shit" but in reality if you can't avoid getting lynched as town, no matter how right you are, you're worthless to the team. If all townies can avoid getting lynched, game is ez, so don't be the worst player, don't get lynched! Hey that's my favorite/only skill in mafia. | ||
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On February 13 2014 08:34 Koshi wrote: I don't like any of you. If only rayn was alive. He is really cool. But seriously. VA. u scum bro. lol you lynched him for being the worst out of the group and now you only follow his reads. | ||
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On February 13 2014 09:02 Holyflare wrote: Why are you still harping on about my case? I think you are scum but I think geript/keir are also scum. Let's lynch him. I am literally calling you out on this shit. ##unvote ##vote keirathi wtf are you talking about you just said my defense was terrible. | ||
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On February 13 2014 09:07 Holyflare wrote: HAH HAH HAH HAH THIS IS SO GOOD, literally gold. Enjoy the lynch. | ||
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On February 13 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote: NO, I stated the reason that I kept the players around that I did. YOU stated you wanted to keep the player that "entertained" you the most. Then flip flopped around when people were giving out town reads and finally landed on the guy that had you as his top scum read. When I flip green lynch this guy in 48 hours. This is testament to a terrible town atmosphere when nobody discusses shit and then afk's with 15 minutes to go in a deadline. GG. But we already went over this several times. I was all 3 of their scum reads and I was the 2nd biggest scum read of Marv. If anything Rayn was scummiest on me. | ||
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On February 13 2014 09:18 Holyflare wrote: Rayn can also read you better as "marv always gets me wrong", just like you said. Oh none of them can read me. | ||
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On February 13 2014 23:23 Holyflare wrote: [/b]You cannot complain about people being shit when you were a pretentious asshole that told me "You should cater your reads to the town" and almost got another towny lynched off which would be auto win for a VA mislynch in 2 days instead of reading what I wrote and discussing it you told me lul you gonna die and afk'd only to then ask marv what to do. Real hypocrtical of you. As for who is scum I'm pretty sure I need to change a few things around based on what just happened. b]VisceraEyes (1): VayneAuthority (5): Oatsmaster, Keirathi (1): WaveofShadow, Oatsmaster (0): Holyflare (4): WaveofShadow (1): yamato77 Grackaroni (0): This was the final vote count. The wagon on me started initially because VA had a read on me based on nothing and then grack decided to join him and add to that nothingness case with nothing. Shortly after that people followed on. Marvellosity, Risen, Koshi, Palmar. Koshi and marv finally got off me and marv is town but the remaining people Grack/Risen/Palmar are HIGHLY likely to contain mafia. The best method for scum to win the game would have been to kill a person that was town that wasn't VA because VA would have been a very very easy mislynch in the next lynch phase and so what better way to do that then to stick to the person that wasn't around and then afk when things seem to happen. I've already made my case against grack and he states the timeline is wrong (not sure it is) but the rest of it still stands, his reads do not add up and he doesn't follow a coherent thought process through the entire game. Even now he is "frustrated" that nobody listens to him after not playing the game for 3 WHOLE DAYS and wondering why???? Palmar, I am so so so confused by him. Thought he was town, still kind of do, but his play around the lynch deadline and interactions around that are so bad it's frustrating to continue reading him as town. Why would he flat out ignore everything I wrote just to say "grack is town to me" and THEN lynch me off based on nothing straight after I made the case instead of generating discussion and trying to solve the game? He then asked marv to pretty much make his read for him at the end of the day: and marv didn't respond and he proceeded to further afk and THEN THE NEXT DAY CALL EVERYONE ELSE BAD FOR NOT PLAYING. This doesn't align with what I see as someone who wants to win by finding the remaining mafia. Risen on the other hand has done nothing all game, has sheeped reads, sheeped marv and then when marv went back off me he decided to turn sheep mode off and not listen to anything despite not being around for the times when it counts. He then did not do anything at deadline but afk. He is quite likely scum for this because I know he was around at the deadline time. This is really inaccurate. Scum are really unlikely to play like that and draw attention to themselves in that way when they know that Marv will be gone later and they can just sit back and hide until the next cycle and last second switch on to a town lurker. | ||
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On February 13 2014 23:47 Holyflare wrote: I hope you are actually kidding. I was afk when half the votes were placed onto me and MARVELOSSITY JOINED THE WAGON. That was the easiest scum switch to an afk person lynch that wasn't VA in the history of TL Mafia. There would be nobody looking bad because "oh he was afk" and when I returned I got angry that nobody was discussing shit so then it's "oh why would he rage as town". So portraying that as something bad would be ridiculous. Scum only need 1 more mislynch to win and who would be the easiest mislynch in the land? Oh yeh that's VA. And I spent the entire day trying to get Marvellosity to switch. That's the hardest fucking scum switch in TL mafia history when I could literally just chill all day and then wait for a townie to vote VE or Yamato or Risen or whoever else is a town lurker and last second vote switch to win the game. | ||
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On February 13 2014 23:53 Holyflare wrote: Ignoring the fact that those 3 could be not-town lurkers? Marv switched on his own volition not because you "convinced" him. You had no input in his switch whatsoever because you had NO reason to vote me just like VA. You weren't on the VA wagon who you called scum the entirety of the past 2 days and he flipped town, that looks so bad. There wouldn't be anything to switch to if it wasn't for me pestering him all day long. | ||
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On February 13 2014 23:57 Holyflare wrote: and I'm here posting now and doing vote analysis and YOU are shitting on me on such insignificant points and not helping to progress the game. Yet you are the one that wants to quit?! Where is the logic there at all. What vote analysis? You said everyone voting you is scum. Then I said I think it's the opposite. Then you said, "Why dont you comment on something relevant, scum? | ||
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On February 13 2014 23:58 Holyflare wrote: marv can easily start a counter wagon on his own ~_~ as can be seen since 3 people joined the wagon after he did and not when you "convinced" him Because he's fucking Marv. He didn't give any reasoning and then as soon as he says to lynch you everyone piles on. But he wouldn't have ever done it if I hadn't bugged him all day long. | ||
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On February 14 2014 00:01 Holyflare wrote: You have 0 basis for voting me, the person that you had called scum only in the past day because of something "you'd explain in the morning" only to then NOT explain it and get "frustrated" when people didn't listen to you. Risen consolidated to avoid shenanigans and then DID SHENANIGANS and afk'd on someone that wasn't around. Palmar didn't even read anything I wrote about you and said you were town and then complained that I wasn't catering to the audience and voted me for being angry only to then want to sheep marv but marv wasn't around so then he afk'd. Only me, you and koshi were around for the vote. That is terrible. -Towniest thing I've heard all day. I didn't give any reasoning on Mocsta either and that didn't change him being scum. | ||
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On February 14 2014 00:02 Holyflare wrote: You also called VA scum for the past 2 days only to NOT vote him because you wanted to vote me who was afk. Because I'm skilled. | ||
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No what frustrates me is that nobody is willing to ever follow me and are only willing to follow Marv/BC and we always lose. If I were allowed to post under Marv's account in a posting style that looked like Marv's then scum would be dead right now. | ||
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On February 14 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote: This thread was fucking dead. I could have just afk'd like 3/4 of the people in this game and got on with my life but here I am trying to do SOME analysis even if you call it fucking "bad". Ok and I'm stuck here as the only one responding to this again. | ||
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On February 14 2014 00:07 Holyflare wrote: Except for the fact that marv does a shit load of research to form his reads and can coherently portray them to the thread and then get his scum target lynched whereas you go on "feels" without playing the game and troll for 3 days and then complain about it? Many similarities Alright I'm glad we agree. Marv did a shit load of research and voted you and must have coherently portrayed his reasoning to the thread. | ||
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On February 14 2014 00:10 Holyflare wrote: he only voted me because I wasn't around, not because I was scum, which as can be seen was dropped when I returned to the thread And you say that I am 100% scum for doing that. When in fact I actually largely do go off of feels. | ||
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On February 14 2014 00:11 Holyflare wrote: it's nothing to do with meta, ALL my games have more than 6-10 pages on day 1 regardless of scum or town so when I have no activity it's because i'm busy I don't think that's true. I remember you disappearing for a long time in TIme to DIe after promising walls of text. | ||
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On February 14 2014 00:12 Holyflare wrote: he changed his read based off information in the game that he could analyse later when he had free time because he was sure VA was scum, coupled with the fact that he no longer wanted to play you are an asshat Rofl you think I want to play? | ||
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On February 14 2014 00:36 Palmar wrote: (if it wasn't obvious, I decided to be a dick and intentionally piss off holy to see how pissed off he'd get). lol no I think we all thought that was just you being yourself. | ||
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On February 14 2014 00:36 Palmar wrote: (if it wasn't obvious, I decided to be a dick and intentionally piss off holy to see how pissed off he'd get). Yeah and then you got sloppy! | ||
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On February 14 2014 17:53 Koshi wrote: First of all. I am town. marv guarantee and it is quite obvious. Secondly, I haven't read the thread since VA was lynched. But while looking for the nomination I saw WoS being terrible. Probably scum but wouldn't be too surprised to see him flip town. Anyway. My vote is on him next cycle. It will be my only post. This cycle I will start on Grack but willing to move to Palmar. Depends on what random post I will read on the matter and if I find it smart. ##vote Grack Yeah we definitely need to get rid of this guy. 5th scum player. ##Unvote: Grackaroni ##Vote: Koshi | ||
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On February 14 2014 22:58 Oatsmaster wrote: yay finally someone who doesnt think im scum!! As for this it's a pretty close list lol. | ||
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On February 14 2014 00:18 Palmar wrote: Sure, you enjoy analysing, some people enjoy lurking, some people enjoy ms-painting. What all of the above have in common is that they have nothing to do with winning mafia games. Hell, you almost got owned yesterday except that VA is even worse than you. I think it was this quote that did it. | ||
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On February 14 2014 23:26 Palmar wrote: Lately I've been leaning very much towards lynching WoS first. He was very active and seemed to care a lot in the early game, but as soon as the game went downhill for town he decided his work was done and fucked off. And then that Yamato guy! He's been working awfully hard lately. It's almost as if he's done absolutely nothing all game long. | ||
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On February 14 2014 23:28 Palmar wrote: Yes, only reason I'm not on yamato's ass is I know how awful he can be when he's town, so this is not entirely out of character. No he's actually been trying super hard recently in town games and looks super townie. Add in the possibility of getting an award for his play and his disappearance is really suspicious. Yamato is really bad at scum so he always lurks. | ||
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On February 14 2014 23:33 Oatsmaster wrote: GETTING AN AWARD? SURELY NOBODY IS THINKING ABOUT THAT!! Keirathi doesnt like playing scum right? I could see him lurking the shit out of this game especially if his team is winning by so much. Not at this point but I think we all expected Yamato to be try-hard so that he can grab that belt. | ||
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On February 14 2014 23:55 WaveofShadow wrote: I can't casually read a filter on my phomne Nor open multiple tabs and sift through shit like normal Normally I would just sit back and do nothing as oats so kindly suggested because what little effort I offered woukdnt be enough but when I see people call me out for intentionally afking it makes me upset considering the reasons I have There is absolutely no point in arguing this any further, and I have zero desire to interact with oats as bhes just going to get me modkilled. Either lynch me or don't; if I can post properly then I promise I will. If. Not, wjat will be will be I understand you have reasons and you aren't afking on purpose. It's just hard to differentiate who isn't posting because they are unable to post and who is actually intentionally afk. Because at this point I think it's a given that a few people aren't posting because they are already blending in. | ||
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On February 16 2014 04:28 Holyflare wrote: also + scum points to grack returning to shit on something i bring up over and over again but never actively trying to solve the game himself despite me and ve trying to do that ~_~ you guys aren't doing much of anything except accusing other people of not doing things. And it's really annoying that all of a sudden I am coming up as scum again. I had assumed that I was confirmed town already like people had said yesterday before I was even nominated and after we lynched off Koshi, who we already knew was town town. If you guys thought I was scum you should have fucking pushed it yesterday and I would have just voted myself to avoid this. | ||
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On February 16 2014 05:18 Holyflare wrote: You are last on the fucking list of discussion and still qqing, after the shitstorm that i was in the day before the nominations i most certainly wasn't going to come play this game again and I'm only doing so now because ve has been the most reasonable person in this thread since rayn and marv so quit your "you're calling me scum boo hoo" and try and find the other scum because you seemed sure Keirathi was scum for a long time so this game will go on past today No that's just a fact, and it's scummy of you. You can't fuck off and let Koshi get lynched, who everyone thought was town, if you really thought I was scum and now show up after we lynched the guy who wasn't going to get lynched and start spreading suspicion on me. | ||
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There's the fact that nobody actually came out to push you over the edge despite your continued yelling that scummers were aiming to kill you for an easy Vayne lynch the next cycle. After playing scum with you and having to push through my own night kill choices, I think these nominations seem a lot like nominations you would make. I think if you were town then you would be nominated over me because a scum team without you would put more consideration into lynching me. I remember thinking that there was some clear distancing going on between you and Kierathi on the day of the lynch that really seemed to come from nowhere. I ignore the effort because you put a lot of effort as both alignments, arguing non-stop even after getting caught scum slipping by Syllo. The only real things that make me believe you could be town is the consistent anger in your posts and the fact that you seemed to be unaware of the vote count during the lynch and probably weren't talking to scum buddies about whether they should switch etc. | ||
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On February 17 2014 13:24 Holyflare wrote: coupled with the fact 0 of the dead townies said I was scum (apart from VA who had no answer when questioned about it) Marv put you next to Keirathi lol. He just went with the safer lynch because you seemed to care and Vayne didn't give a shit. | ||
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On February 13 2014 05:44 marvellosity wrote: meh. I could lynch not-VA I guess. Maybe one of Holy/Keirathi. I'd like Palmar to come say things, I'm kinda busy this evening. RIGHT HERE. MARV THOUGHT YOU WERE SCUM. MARV DOES NOT IGNORE HIS SCUM READS JUST TO LYNCH AFKS AS TOWN. I DO NOT LYNCH PEOPLE PURELY BECAUSE THEY ARE AFK AS TOWN. He switched off you in the end because vayne didn't give a shit and you started posting and showed that you cared about being lynched. It does not mean he thought that you were town later in the day. It most definitely does not mean he didn't think you could be scum. | ||
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On February 17 2014 13:36 Holyflare wrote: He wanted to lynch me for information on you and VA, it's quite evident He said that he thought I was town so I doubt that one lol. And I just reread Marv it truly does appear that he is just terrible and didn't care who got lynched so he sheeped me for the fuck of it. I'm not saying that he didn't think you or Keir would flip mafia; it's more that he thought that everybody would flip mafia. | ||
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On February 18 2014 00:10 Holyflare wrote: anyone can rationalise a town thought process when doing lylo mathematics "i am town and these are all town reads so these must be scum" is the easiest thing in the world to do, the thing he isn't doing and what makes him scum is that he's not explaining these reads in detail and out loud and he hasn't done so the entire game hence why I keep trying to get him to do it and the only thing he returns to the thread to do is talk about the lynch order again (this is the 2nd time now, it happened yesterday after me and ve came to the conclusion he was scum) That is your reasoning though. You have consistently argued that Risen and I are scum for trying to get a free mislynch while you were afking. And then you come back and say that this is the easiest kind of suspicion. This is very similar to you voting off somebody because you didn't think they would town read you, and then coming back before the lynch and conjuring up some bullshit that I would switch off Rayn because he wasn't trying to lynch me. (which from your point of view wouldn't make me scum because I would be choosing not to kill the guy who was doing the best job of reading me) Less complaining about the lack of discussion more analysis. | ||
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On February 18 2014 00:22 Oatsmaster wrote: Risen is epic bus king btw. I fully believe this lol. HF and Risen just randomly start all out bussing each other after the death of Keirathi. Before that HF was strongly against me and throwing some suspicion on Risen for voting him. | ||
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VE and Palmar are both absolutely town and I'm fine with getting lynched and letting them attempt to figure it out. However, I very strongly recommend lynching HF next cycle as he is the only person in this game silly enough to make the choice to nominate me. If it was both me and HF as town then scum would just nominate HF and confirm him as town and then take me out as the final mislynch and I wouldn't have even put up a fight. | ||
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On February 18 2014 00:59 Palmar wrote: If HF is scum, you're town and VE is town, why is HF arguing with me about lynching VE? Why isn't he happily lynching VE with me. That would allow him to continue tunneling you tomorrow, without having to deal with "having been wrong" in his case on you. Because he has been buddying VE for a long time and can manipulate him. | ||
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On February 18 2014 01:00 Holyflare wrote: It's as if I've done nothing OTHER THAN THAT the entire game.........!??!?!?! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/edit.php?action=edit&post_id=2755&topic_id=442512¤tpage=1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442512¤tpage=140#2794 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442512¤tpage=141#2808 The whole past day I've been trying to discuss people that are scum with VE and you come in and do nothing and afk again and risen comes in says all my points were true and then afk's only to come back, call me scum, vote palmar and then switch to grack after I show him reasoning. Like wut, he's sheeping his scum read right now. It's not a matter of doing nothing. You can't do something scummy and then yell, "but what about all the things I did." When you were set to be lynched you pushed a bunch of bullshit against me. And I don't see anything useful in there. You went on about me wanting to lynch you over Keir and that doesn't mean shit. You already had the votes and I was ok with either lynch. Chin up though. After I lynch myself you will be confirmed town. | ||
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That's the exact same thing. | ||
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##Vote: VisceraEyes Hammered Bitch. (I don't actually know the vote count) | ||
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On February 18 2014 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote: Not enough votes on VE, get me outta this hell-hole. Sorry VE you have to annoy the scummers to get the votes. You only managed to annoy Palmar. | ||
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not compared to other people in this game. It's a really pathetic situation when the scum team is stuck putting me in nominations lol. | ||
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On February 18 2014 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote: LOL VE is not getting mislynched. I'm actually surprised scum didn't take advantage of it while I wasn't around, but while I'm here he doesn't get mislynched. I'd rather be dealing with people in this game I know I can talk to and make sense. well then if you are town you better hope Palmar gets better at mafia. | ||
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On February 18 2014 09:15 Palmar wrote: you know that if you don't want VE lynched, you could simply unvote him and vote yourself, right? Idk what I want. I'm just enjoying the ride right now. | ||
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Wave's been afk so long. What's he been doing anyway. Seems like a pretty shitty way to play if he is scum. | ||
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On February 14 2014 22:56 Grackaroni wrote: If I had to guess it would go: Keirathi WoS Yamato HF Risen VE Oatsmaster Koshi Palmar On February 14 2014 22:56 Grackaroni wrote: From scum to town On February 18 2014 05:43 Grackaroni wrote: You can always lynch Yamato too. Lynching Yamato is funny and he will flip scum. On February 18 2014 09:28 Grackaroni wrote: And death to the HF! On February 17 2014 23:42 Palmar wrote: Apparently I'm not being perfectly clear VE. I think there's a 80% chance Grack is town, I value his reads 4 (scale of 1-10). I think there's a 60% chance you're town, I value your reads 8 (scale 1-10). From my point of view it's far better to confirm you, and get good reads, than to confirm grack and get bad reads, on the guy who I had less scumspicion on in the first place. I'm way too lazy to make my own video for this situation because it happens really frequently. I don't have to explains my reads to you, scum. | ||
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On February 19 2014 09:35 marvellosity wrote: oh god. fuck being distracted on that day 2 lynch when i was contemplating being off VA on to one of two mafia. Lame D: You stole my glory Marv. | ||
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I strongly believe that a competent town could have gotten either one of those lynches. WoS is a lot trickier and you just have to know HF well enough to not write him off as town because he posts a lot and pretends to be angry. | ||
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On February 19 2014 09:49 WaveofShadow wrote: Well I look forward to next time then. Also yeah...this game was so damn frustrating at times...I think there may have been a little scum bias involved but I still have no fucking clue why you guys said Koshi/Grack are town. Just so many reads, so little analysis all game. Because the people who appear the most useful are not always the people most likely to be town. | ||
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On February 19 2014 09:59 Palmar wrote: I also wish you'd have let me kill you VE, having an overzealous lynch HF grack in lylo would've been fun. No I would have tried to push you over to Yamato considering your lynch choices. Probably shouldn't have lynched myself out of the game. I was pushing harder against HF just because he kept drawing my attention to him with his posts. I would have been fine with a Yamato lynch. | ||
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On February 19 2014 10:03 VayneAuthority wrote: I gave my 100% guarantee, 3/3 for now. I need a seal for that lol me too. wait. | ||
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On February 13 2014 02:33 Grackaroni wrote: Well I think we should lynch HF and if he flips town you can lynch me. And the last 2 times I have used that phrase the person I accused was mafia. | ||
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On February 19 2014 10:24 yamato77 wrote: I don't understand this aggression towards me. He's angry. | ||
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On February 19 2014 10:26 gonzaw wrote: Wasn't cora town? How would he know if you are scum or not, and how would town know cora knows you are town or scum? He's saying that it's the same as him getting lynched and coming back after he is dead and saying, "GG GL TOWN - Palmar is scum" which isn't allowed in the rules. | ||
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On February 19 2014 10:32 gonzaw wrote: Hmm Seems a little bit too much for a ban though. Not like anybody cares about that kind of stuff, the effect is exactly the same if he had posted it 1 second before the night post. Ehmmm... Yeah he did! But then he changed it to the other one which didn't, which then he changed it to the one he uses it now! Silly marv! Yeah I agree. Either Palmar is trolling or he just dislikes Cora and is trying to ban him for cursing him. | ||
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On February 19 2014 10:39 Risen wrote: Well played by scum. The lesson I need to take from this is to learn how to make a case instead of expecting people to follow me and get the same things I do from reading. Then again, I don't actually think other people read. vOv Funny thing is, if we had followed my plan we would have won lol. At least now I can confidently point to the acro post on me that I bus as scum and have good reads late as town. Holyflare makes a fantastic crown holder. Also if Risen was scum the first nomination would have been all people he didn't feel deserved the belt. Day 1 nomination - " Grackaroni Oatsmaster Corazon " | ||
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