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On February 10 2014 09:38 Grackaroni wrote: Did cora get killed in titanic 2? I didn't pay much attention that game lol.
He called everyone that put suspicion on him (me, dp etc) scum and hard defended himself all game (what pretty much all of my post was about) which you should have read and KNOWN about and then rage shot me even though I was trying to solve the game.
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and then replaced out.....
this game was so so far removed from B2B and titanic cora....
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gg gl town fuck you Palmar
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On February 10 2014 09:37 Holyflare wrote:Now this looks MORE suspicious. Click me!Palmar is there any reason you appear right at the deadline instead of before it just to insult cora?
He was guaranteed to get lynched. I don't think it's an insult really, I begged him to communicate with me but he refused repeatedly, then complains about people being tunneled in.
It's terrible way to play mafia.
What did you want me to do before the lynch? I tried, but this guy just decided to be an asshole instead of playing the game so I'm glad he's dead.
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On February 10 2014 09:46 Corazon wrote: gg gl town fuck you Palmar
you're an asshole.
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Well click the click me part and respond to what I said please.
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Meh, I had a bad d1. Bit too spammy, with less spam I could have maybe been less suspicious and then pushed VA lynch. Even though Cora lynch not the worst lynch all by all.
gn.
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In fact I'll repost it so people can see:
On February 10 2014 09:12 Holyflare wrote:These are some pretty crazy suspicious votes that you guys have put down. These all occur after my case on cora being mafia was made and it looked pretty damn certain that he was going to get lynched. (I'll check the votes before too because a few of those looked bad as well) I'll highlight the suspicious things for you. Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 06:10 Koshi wrote: Well I can vote Cora. But let it be known that I supported a VA lynch way more. For the belt.
##unvote ##vote: Cora Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 08:49 Koshi wrote: Well yeah. Not enough people here. Nobody leading stuff. This is a townlynch.
One of marv / rayn is going to be scum most likely. or both.
why aren't you here? Put's downa vote on cora. Says the wagon IS A town lynch while STILL having his vote on cora all along. Like what's the point of this? His initial vote on cora doesn't even say WHY he is lynching cora. It just says he's voting for him but he still wants to lynch VA. After being called out on it he says it was bs to trick people? Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 10 2014 08:59 marvellosity wrote: Effectively you were bullshitting and now you have to back down because you can't back up anything you said, right? Oh that was to me. Yes. Basically. wut?
Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 06:24 Palmar wrote: Btw Cora's filter was shorter than expected. This feels a bit off, but I'm just going to vote him anyway. Let's just assume mafia is not defending each other
##Unvote ##Vote: Corazon
Read my filter for the reasons, I had already pointed some stuff about him out. I also hated his early "get off the hook" post, and tbh, fuck him for wanting to kill me. While you may have listed 1000000000 reasons for cora being mafia in your filter, why did you NOT put a vote down until after my case? In fact, if all your reasons are before my case then my case is the only convincing factor for you to lynch him. Show nested quote +I worry about the Cora wagon. I pointed out some inconsistency in his play myself, but his random vote on me there before he switched is really head scratching if he's mafia. Now his is obviously not going to make much sense to anyone but myself, but given how he's been wanting to kill me and been casually calling me out all game, it seems like a strange vote as it makes it more likely he'll flip AND if he flips mafia he's basically confirming me as town.
You display hesitance that all of your reads up to that point are head scratching from mafia cora but then you also use all of those reasons that you previously mentioned to then vote him? Which is is it? Is he mafia because of them or town because of them? Why even qualify your read with a "this feels off" and then vote him anyway?
Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 04:04 VayneAuthority wrote: ##vote: Corazon
only "real" lynch i like i guess before real full blown steam on cora was ahead, this vote went down ^^^^^ after wagon of justice the below happens Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 07:54 VayneAuthority wrote: ##unvote ##vote: oatsmaster
shenanigans I don't even know what's in his mind about cora or oats.... just shenanigans after saying cora was the only one he liked the look of lynching?
Are all these people scum or what?
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On February 10 2014 09:49 Holyflare wrote: Well click the click me part and respond to what I said please.
I think I sort of already answered it.
I liked the geript wagon better because he did more objectively scummy things. However I was literally the only person on it, so I felt like I needed to make a stance on the VA/Kosher/Corazon thing. If you read my filter around that time you should see pretty clearly my thought process.
I had all kinds of reservations. It's never really a scum lynch when it's this easy, but the guy hadn't exactly done anything to make himself look town. In fact all the reasons I could list for him to be town were subjective.
On February 10 2014 07:32 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 07:32 Palmar wrote: You still haven't responded to my request for clarification Corazon I don't really care about responding to you
And after this post I just didn't care. I can't play with people like this.
Intentionally trying to lose should be bannable.
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I'd lynch him again, knowing he's town.
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Do you think arguing with your scum read is useful? I'm pretty sure that's what he was trying to avoid with that post. So why would you just ignore him instead of thinking that could be a possibility?
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I always argue with my scum reads. It's really helpful honestly.
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-.- Don't respond for other people.
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Sooooo who's getting nominated? I bet it will be Marv/Palmar/Yamato
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You display hesitance that all of your reads up to that point are head scratching from mafia cora but then you also use all of those reasons that you previously mentioned to then vote him? Which is is it? Is he mafia because of them or town because of them? Why even qualify your read with a "this feels off" and then vote him anyway?
And this is just you misunderstanding or misreading.
These are the posts I'm referring to when I said I brought up points against him earlier:
On February 09 2014 21:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 07:57 Corazon wrote: Yeah I really don't feel like defending myself. I'm just gonna wait for Yamato to reply to my message.
Btw, you guys should look into Palmar's vote of Geript. Wouldn't it make a lot of sense for scum to try and rile up Geript for no reason? Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 10:58 Corazon wrote:On February 09 2014 10:47 marvellosity wrote: Maybe if Palmar does non-geript or better-geript things and rayn tells me where to look, we can get a good lynch. We could always lynch Palmar for going after Geript, because attacking Geript is a pretty easy thing to do as scum. I really need clarification on this. I was not trying to rile geript up, I posted facts about what he had done in the game so far and voted for him. And apparently it's easy to attack him as scum. So by extension should geript be immune to scrutiny as it's too easy to attack him? I don't really know where you're going with this but all I can read from it is that you think that going after geript is a waste of time and shouldn't be done, in fact merely accusing him seems to be scummy. I'm amazed you allow yourself to think like this.
On February 09 2014 22:07 Palmar wrote: in addition @Corazon:
Is there any specific reason you wanted other people to look at me, instead of just doing it yourself and presenting your conclusion?
All of which he promptly ignored and refused to answer. And in addition he did call me scum quite early. These reasons all still hold up.
However my reservations were based on completely different things, mostly subjective stuff like how easy the wagon was rolling, how no one was defending him, how dumb his vote was (remember, his vote is much later than his accusations of me).
And I said "this feels off" because it felt off, I'm usually honest like that.
Doesn't mean I hesitate lynching people who're playing for the mafia, no matter them being possible town based on subjective stuff.
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On February 10 2014 09:58 Holyflare wrote: Do you think arguing with your scum read is useful? I'm pretty sure that's what he was trying to avoid with that post. So why would you just ignore him instead of thinking that could be a possibility?
I'm town, he should argue with me so I can convince him I am. Not doing so is trying to lose.
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On February 10 2014 10:05 Grackaroni wrote: Sooooo who's getting nominated? I bet it will be Marv/Palmar/Yamato
I'd be fine with that, ez marv lynch.
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On February 10 2014 10:08 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 10:05 Grackaroni wrote: Sooooo who's getting nominated? I bet it will be Marv/Palmar/Yamato I'd be fine with that, ez marv lynch. Marv would be the only one in that group to possibly nominate himself of course.
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On February 10 2014 10:01 Grackaroni wrote: I always argue with my scum reads. It's really helpful honestly.
Grack, why did you take no stance on Cora the entire game despite him being the main wagon, the most voted player, looking scummy and being town?
You even questioned his intentions with Palmar here:
On February 09 2014 11:46 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 07:57 Corazon wrote: Yeah I really don't feel like defending myself. I'm just gonna wait for Yamato to reply to my message.
Btw, you guys should look into Palmar's vote of Geript. Wouldn't it make a lot of sense for scum to try and rile up Geript for no reason? Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 10:58 Corazon wrote:On February 09 2014 10:47 marvellosity wrote: Maybe if Palmar does non-geript or better-geript things and rayn tells me where to look, we can get a good lynch. We could always lynch Palmar for going after Geript, because attacking Geript is a pretty easy thing to do as scum. Cora do you want to vote Palmar?
On February 09 2014 15:09 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 14:52 Corazon wrote:On February 09 2014 11:51 Grackaroni wrote:On February 09 2014 11:49 Corazon wrote:On February 09 2014 11:46 Grackaroni wrote:On February 09 2014 07:57 Corazon wrote: Yeah I really don't feel like defending myself. I'm just gonna wait for Yamato to reply to my message.
Btw, you guys should look into Palmar's vote of Geript. Wouldn't it make a lot of sense for scum to try and rile up Geript for no reason? On February 09 2014 10:58 Corazon wrote:On February 09 2014 10:47 marvellosity wrote: Maybe if Palmar does non-geript or better-geript things and rayn tells me where to look, we can get a good lynch. We could always lynch Palmar for going after Geript, because attacking Geript is a pretty easy thing to do as scum. Cora do you want to vote Palmar? Not yet. I'll give Palmar some more time to do something useful. You think he's scum though right? Where did I say that You've been insinuating that he is scum/should be lynched. What did you think of his responses and then why did you not portray those feelings to us so as to give us more information on the main lynch candidate?
Also, why did you use a throwaway vote on risen with no explanation:
On February 10 2014 03:44 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah I give up for today. Risen safe lynch; best lynch NA. ##Unvote: VA ##Vote: Risen
but then not push for his lynch, question him or argue with him (seeing as you just stated that arguing with your scum suspect is good)
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I propose that if I get nominated it's not unlikely that it'll either be a 3-townie nomination or the only mafia on the list will be a very well hidden mafia, someone people have town-read on.
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