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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 10 2014 01:19 GMT
#861
after day 1 it is likely to be a 3 town nomination
I come in for the scraps
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 10 2014 01:36 GMT
#862
On February 10 2014 10:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 10:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I always argue with my scum reads. It's really helpful honestly.


Grack, why did you take no stance on Cora the entire game despite him being the main wagon, the most voted player, looking scummy and being town?

You even questioned his intentions with Palmar here:

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 11:46 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 09 2014 07:57 Corazon wrote:
Yeah I really don't feel like defending myself. I'm just gonna wait for Yamato to reply to my message.

Btw, you guys should look into Palmar's vote of Geript. Wouldn't it make a lot of sense for scum to try and rile up Geript for no reason?

On February 09 2014 10:58 Corazon wrote:
On February 09 2014 10:47 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe if Palmar does non-geript or better-geript things and rayn tells me where to look, we can get a good lynch.

We could always lynch Palmar for going after Geript, because attacking Geript is a pretty easy thing to do as scum.

Cora do you want to vote Palmar?

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 15:09 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 09 2014 14:52 Corazon wrote:
On February 09 2014 11:51 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 09 2014 11:49 Corazon wrote:
On February 09 2014 11:46 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 09 2014 07:57 Corazon wrote:
Yeah I really don't feel like defending myself. I'm just gonna wait for Yamato to reply to my message.

Btw, you guys should look into Palmar's vote of Geript. Wouldn't it make a lot of sense for scum to try and rile up Geript for no reason?

On February 09 2014 10:58 Corazon wrote:
On February 09 2014 10:47 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe if Palmar does non-geript or better-geript things and rayn tells me where to look, we can get a good lynch.

We could always lynch Palmar for going after Geript, because attacking Geript is a pretty easy thing to do as scum.

Cora do you want to vote Palmar?

Not yet. I'll give Palmar some more time to do something useful.

You think he's scum though right?

Where did I say that

You've been insinuating that he is scum/should be lynched.

What did you think of his responses and then why did you not portray those feelings to us so as to give us more information on the main lynch candidate?


Also, why did you use a throwaway vote on risen with no explanation:

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 03:44 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah I give up for today. Risen safe lynch; best lynch NA.
##Unvote: VA
##Vote: Risen



but then not push for his lynch, question him or argue with him (seeing as you just stated that arguing with your scum suspect is good)

I think it will be easier if I just give my thought process for the day. I joined the game and read the thread. I didn't see anything I found very scummy, but Corazon was acting like an indifferent observer so I thought that would be good to pressure. (Not in a way that I think he is necessarily scum more that I want to see how he reacts and how other people would respond.) Then he wasn't really interested in talking so I moved on to Marv, who got pissy that I troll voted him and he wouldn't talk to me either. Then I figured Koshi was town and that nobody else was pushing Vayne too hard so I was ok lynching him. BUT then Vayne seemed like he genuinely didn't know anything this game which was really in contrast to last game where it seemed like he knew everything and told town nothing so I settled with Risen because safe + lazy. If it was a close lynch I would have moved my vote either on to Corazon or on to somebody else depending on the situation. Then a townie got lynched. And then I blamed Marv because Marv.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 01:38 GMT
#863
Why is risen scum grack?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 01:38 GMT
#864
Since when does a townie use the word "safe"
No gg, No skill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 10 2014 01:42 GMT
#865
On February 10 2014 10:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is risen scum grack?

I don't know if he is scum. There was nobody else I felt strongly about lynching though. Safe as in difficult to read and bad reads as town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 10 2014 01:43 GMT
#866
It's kind of the same thing as what Vayne was pushing for except I think Vayne had a wider target range probably consisting of you/me/Risen/Vayne/etc
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 10 2014 01:45 GMT
#867
Ok then. Explain your town read on koshi to me please because all I get from your filter is

On February 10 2014 03:05 Grackaroni wrote:
I think lynching Koshi is a bad idea.


and
On February 10 2014 08:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 08:18 Koshi wrote:
How sure are you that I am town Grack?

Koshi totes town.




Also, in regards to your thought process. You stated:

On February 10 2014 06:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 06:45 geript wrote:
##vote Grackaroni
First off, we can all agree that Grack's been useless this game. Unfortunately, this isn't alignment indicative of him though. There are some good reasons for him to be scum.
+ Show Spoiler [filters] +
On February 09 2014 21:53 geript wrote:
LXIV Town
SMB Town

Titanic II Scum
LXIII Scum


1.He's objectively weird but no one has been interested in discussing him. Like he's gotten a complete free pass.
2. The Cora lynch has too much steam. There are way too many people ok with lynching Cora right now for it to end up being a good lynch. On top of that, Cora reacted to Palmar exactly how I had which should be a good litmus test.
3. Grack has bounced around to 3 different people with completely shitty reasons every time.
4. We get to avoid super awkward situations like happened in LXIV.
5. Grack has more swagger as town than he has as scum. Hell he's voted for himself both times as town (once was for mayor). He's also far more negative as scum than he is as town. It's weird to try and describe, but I'm not seeing any sense of confidence coming out of Grack. Most of his statements this game have been qualified: "I do think it could be" "I might be ok" "But you haven't done anything to try to solve the game?" There's a serious disconnect between these posts and how I read him in his other town games.
6. This is weak, but in his scum games he also uses quotes more than he does as town. It feels like his lack of confidence wants him to pad his filter with extra space.

That's the bullet point. Rayn/VE your thoughts.


This is the only part I'm going to address. I'm definitely less confident about being correct with reads this game; I don't have anyone I really want to lynch too strongly except maybe Marv but he's actually made himself hard to read by just refusing to chat with me.


If marv was the only person you felt it necessary to address when someone talks to you then why was your throwaway vote on risen and NOT on marv? They both would have meant equally as little but then your vote would be on the person you thought was scum? As well as this you JUST stated that:

If it was a close lynch I would have moved my vote either on to Corazon or on to somebody else depending on the situation.
After everything you have said about marv after placing your "safe" vote onto risen why would cora be your chosen candidate if the lynch was any closer??
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 10 2014 01:52 GMT
#868
Koshi's posting is very carefree and doesn't seem like his scum posting.

Marv made himself hard to read so I went with a safe lynch rather than a riskier lynch. I could have voted Marv, but I'm not sold on him either.

It depends on who the lynch candidates were. If it was between Oats and Cora I would have moved to Cora. If it was between Cora and WoS there is definitely a possibility I would have moved it to WoS.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 01:52 GMT
#869
On February 10 2014 10:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 10:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is risen scum grack?

I don't know if he is scum. There was nobody else I felt strongly about lynching though. Safe as in difficult to read and bad reads as town.

thats horrifically bad reasoning. Why didnt you put any effort into asking him and shit?
No gg, No skill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 10 2014 01:55 GMT
#870
On February 10 2014 10:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 10:42 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 10 2014 10:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is risen scum grack?

I don't know if he is scum. There was nobody else I felt strongly about lynching though. Safe as in difficult to read and bad reads as town.

thats horrifically bad reasoning. Why didnt you put any effort into asking him and shit?

I don't know what you expect from me right now I made it explicitly clear when I voted Risen that I had pretty much given up on finding scum this cycle.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 01:57 GMT
#871
On February 10 2014 10:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 10:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 10 2014 10:42 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 10 2014 10:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is risen scum grack?

I don't know if he is scum. There was nobody else I felt strongly about lynching though. Safe as in difficult to read and bad reads as town.

thats horrifically bad reasoning. Why didnt you put any effort into asking him and shit?

I don't know what you expect from me right now I made it explicitly clear when I voted Risen that I had pretty much given up on finding scum this cycle.

I expect you to have at least 1 scumread now.
Whos scum Grack.
OR DIE BY FIRE.
No gg, No skill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 10 2014 02:00 GMT
#872
Lol Oats I think I'll be here a while longer.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 10 2014 02:10 GMT
#873
On February 10 2014 10:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Koshi's posting is very carefree and doesn't seem like his scum posting.

Marv made himself hard to read so I went with a safe lynch rather than a riskier lynch. I could have voted Marv, but I'm not sold on him either.

It depends on who the lynch candidates were. If it was between Oats and Cora I would have moved to Cora. If it was between Cora and WoS there is definitely a possibility I would have moved it to WoS.



I don't understand. Your risen read came out of nowhere even though people posted reasons why he could be town. You then state that risen is unreadable:

On February 10 2014 10:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 10:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is risen scum grack?

I don't know if he is scum. There was nobody else I felt strongly about lynching though. Safe as in difficult to read and bad reads as town.


If that's the case why did you differentiate between risen and marv as lynch candidates when marv was the person you had talked more about?

Your WoS read is.... doesn't exist?

The only mention of WoS you have in your filter is:

On February 10 2014 03:53 Grackaroni wrote:
I could definitely see Risen doing that as scum. What do you think of WoS, Palmar?


and nothing else. So why would he have been a better candidate than the people that shut you out of discusssion and didn't reply to things that you had stated? Or the person that you voted as a "safe" vote? You had 4 candidates then: WoS, Cora, Risen and Marv?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 02:12 GMT
#874
yay thanks for Holyflare for being so eloquent.
No gg, No skill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 10 2014 02:15 GMT
#875
Oh god no I had like 8 or 9 candidates.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 02:19 GMT
#876
and you cant give reasons for any of them?
No gg, No skill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 10 2014 02:19 GMT
#877
They didn't seem townie?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 02:23 GMT
#878
.....
No gg, No skill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 10 2014 02:28 GMT
#879
I don't know how I could make this any clearer to you. I had no real scum reads. I basically said so when I voted Risen. You guys just keep asking why I thought risen was scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 10 2014 02:28 GMT
#880
On February 10 2014 11:15 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh god no I had like 8 or 9 candidates.


You haven't mentioned all your candidates then? I don't get it. If you increase suspicion because people don't respond to you talking to them then why don't you move onto your next candidate and try and get a better read on them by talking to them instead of just stating that you have "x" number of candidates and hoping people can read your mind?

Why don't you tell the thread this stuff until you are asked to?
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