EPTYes very recently.
Because I felt like it.
Problem?
And VA is not my null read at all, he's a townread. Gj though Oats.
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Yes very recently. Because I felt like it. Problem? And VA is not my null read at all, he's a townread. Gj though Oats. | ||
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On February 12 2014 12:25 Grackaroni wrote: It just seemed super strange. My impression of him is that normally he's a fairly reasonable person and then he gets more and more ridiculous over time while arguing with people until he makes posts like that. This time it just came out of nowhere which makes me think it's forced. When I looked at his filter he hasn't gotten himself in any real shit fest yet this game. He's not a reasonable person at all. He's completely unpredictable and weird with who he decides to pressure and why, what he finds important or not, and what his activity will or won't be like, and as such I have immense trouble reading him in any game we've been in together. I cba to bring up examples right now. | ||
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On February 12 2014 12:37 Oatsmaster wrote: well if geript didnt replace i wouldnt think its a big deal. I just think its weird that wave is willing to totally ignore/lynch keir even though he clearly wants to play the game and will give input, scum or not. I'm not totally going to ignore him. When did I say that? He's a scumread and I'm voting for him. Doesn't mean I'm not going to listen to him. | ||
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On February 12 2014 13:00 Oatsmaster wrote: I dunno, you probably shouldnt waste your time on that though. Wave, voting means you intend to lynch him right? And when you intend to lynch someone, you obviously dont really take their opinions seriously because they are scum. Man, I just felt like you voted because geript was your scumread and you should vote for scumreads. I.... I'm going to let what you just said sink in for a minute. | ||
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On February 12 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote: I can't tell if he's mafia or just town who's gone off the deep end and is irrationally angry with everybody. When I'm one of the ones staying calm in a game something is really odd. Phoneposting Who have I been irrationally angry with? Not only is it clearly not 'everybody' (unless you're trying to be self-centred), but I don't think I've been irrational either. I'll be around most of today so I can actually talk with people while they're around for once, but not for a couple hours yet Note for filter: Yamato singling me out is a little odd---treats me like I pushed him off scum when I post one joking line about him to VE Want to talk about geript/Keri and oats later | ||
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On February 12 2014 19:54 marvellosity wrote: well VA is currently playing against wincon if he's town, so I assume iamp has warned him privately, and VA is continuing to choose not to play. Ofc iamp almost certainly hasn't warned him privately, but his play if he's town is pretty much breaking "play to win" rules. He's done 2 things with his read on Oats and his comments on the nominees that he's refused to explain, and he refuses to explain why Holy is mafia. Whatchagonnado And for the record I agree with this, and it's completely reminiscent of why I used to hate playing with VA when he first started here (the anti wincin stuff) He'd pull this shit as town all the time; I suppose not wanting to eliminate him for it now means I've become more tolerant of some of the stuff people are known for (like coags play) but 6-9 months ago I'd have been pushing for a policy lynch. Or I'm wrong and he is scum and he gets lynched anyway but that I don't know | ||
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On February 12 2014 21:40 marvellosity wrote: Since when have you become more tolerant? I'm sure like 2 games ago you were pushing superhard for a policy lynch on someone for no reason when there was blatant mafia in the thread. Who and when I'm pretty sure since my raging at hosting PYP I've stopped bothering with getting myself worked up over that king of player | ||
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On February 13 2014 03:03 marvellosity wrote: no, I have no theories beyond VA right now. This seems kind of silly to me, especially if you'er tunneling him solely to the exclusion of finding anyone else. I don't understand why we're not lynching Keirathi for example and ignoring literally DAYS of geript play just because of one massive post. Marv you never answered me (or Oats) regarding the business right after the rayn flip. I want to know what people think of Oats because he's a huge ??? for me and I'm not staisfied with only one scum on my list right now. | ||
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He uses the word 'contrived' to talk about VE but that perfectly describes the case in general. It could be bias because I have a townread on VE but his describing the thought of Cora's lynch being 'worrying' is exactly what I would have done were I around (yes I know marv but we've been over this) and I probably would consider that exactly as VE did. I'm not sure why his describing it as such even makes him scum. Another thing I thought about was somebody posted recently (in a postgame or something somewhere? I don't remember) that Keirathi is supposedly some sort of meta master. Where's the meta in this case on VE? (Am I wrong wiht thsi point?) | ||
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I don't think his passivity makes him scum because as scum he could have done way less at this point and still gotten by, and without attempting to give the he has either---reasoning itself which msot people find bad/scummy (and yet the kind that I would give myself as town). I really think Keirathi is nitpicking at little things VE has done surrounding lynch targets when he could probably find equal reasoning (apathetic, throwing votes around, little--->no explanation regarding dropping stuff) around people in the rest of the game. Grack, for one. It looks like he chose a likely mislynch target (as VE says himself) and tried to cook something up halfway believable that would get himself through the day. It's not sufficient imo to get VE lynched, clearly you guys KNOW this because you're not voting him, but it was enough to apparently make nobody consider him all day. And again nobody has even bothered to consider geript's past play today (and specifically what I wrote about him---Oats mentioned it when yelling at me but didn't bother actually discussing it) Geript/Keirathi should be the lynch. | ||
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On February 13 2014 04:06 Grackaroni wrote: I actually disliked Keirathi play more than Geript play. But yes. If not HF then Keirathi is an excellent choice. Can you explain why? And or read what I wrote/comment? Risen you as well (or are you going to ignore my poitns because of 'buddying' for the 5th time this game) | ||
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Can you explain why? | ||
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On February 13 2014 04:33 Risen wrote: I don't think anything of oats. I don't try to read him. I try to have this attitude but I can't help but try to read him. At least I can actually understand the words coming out of his mouth; that's the only reason why I wouldn't read anybody (sorry Slam). | ||
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Is anyone around at ALL that wants to discuss something? Or is everyone content on letting the VA slide through without further discussion? Just tell me now, I'll switch my vote and fuck off 'till post-deadline. | ||
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On February 13 2014 05:40 yamato77 wrote: I like that someone else noted the lack of effort VE has put into his reads. I don't know if I buy the whole "I know I look bad" spiel from him. Instead of attempting to explain his reads, he's just self-admonishing and skating by for it. meeeeeeeeeeeeeh I'm interested to see how Keirathi comes back. He's basically stakes his whole play so far on calling VE mafia (he didn't even TRY to defend his ass reasoning for calling me mafia). Just for fun, I went back and looked at the getmoript filter from LXI, and the style of his play there is quite similar to geript's play this game. He was relatively low-content, and low-activity. This game, as I've already stated, has an odd progression in modes from geript. It's a conscious decision to troll, no? Then why is he so surprised when Palmar calls him out on it? Honestly, reading the exchange again with knowledge of how both players have played since really makes it clear that Palmar was spot on at the time. I'm going to filter Wave some time soon. My impression is mixed. He reads geript scum as well, but honestly, that's not that convincing. I don't remember a single stance he's taken on my alignment the whole game. I know day 1 he was all "VA is town" and stuff when Koshi called him mafia, so there's definitely something to be said about how unsettling this VA lynch is at the moment. First of all, isn't getmoript partially marv? Second, no you know what? I don't think I HAVE taken a stance on your alignment all game. Because you haven't done anything worth being memorable. 'Slipping under the radar,' as it were, despite your activity excuses likely not being fake. I can do it right now if you'd like since there doesn't seem to be a hell of a lot going on | ||
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On February 13 2014 05:48 marvellosity wrote: na i barely played. Were you kicked out right at the start? I couldn't remember when it was, but I suppose that is true then. Yamato where is your vote right now? On February 13 2014 05:46 marvellosity wrote: can anyone tell me how these posts even come close to going together? Marv what are you thinking with this? This actually makes me realize it's time for a reevaluation of Risen. I've had him as a townread since the start but its been s long I can't actually be sure if it still makes sense considering all i remember from Risen recently is complaining about fake rage and my 'buddying.' Yamato and risen filter time. | ||
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You had good feels about me then, and I haven't changed my stance on Oats or VA. Are you suspicious of me now because of this or despite it? Jesus yamato your filter is ass. It's all 'pop in, one liners, sorry gotta go, be angry at thread for random reason.' And cora. You posted a little on geript interspersed with cora here: + Show Spoiler + On February 09 2014 15:25 yamato77 wrote: Actually you've just shown you're not reading at all, basically. No need to start now! This is also shit, as is the rest of this interaction from geript's side. Wouldn't mind lynching geript if this is how he's going to paly. This makes no sense. Why is it necessary in a plurality lynch to vote so early on, especially given how little Risen seems to be interested in actually talking about this read? Out of nowhere, Risen just goes "Yeah I think Cora is scum" and then waffles about lynching him, yet now just votes him because "plurality". Ooookay... I generally agree with this post. VA is much less lighthearted as mafia, and this game is devoid of image macros and stupid jokes. As town lately, he has actually shown a penchant to try to find mafia, and this game he doesn't seem nearly as interested. First of all, my post was about the post that I quoted, NOT anything else, so you are again misinterpreting what I've said. Second of all, let's look at what you've said about Koshi and Palmar. This heavily implies you think geript is town. What makes you think that? What makes you think that Palmar is MAFIA for attacking geript for being terrible, even IF geript is town? This is a shallow read. This is the only thing you've said about Koshi. How is this a read? Cora, I fail to understand what you're trying to accomplish this game. As town, you try to scumhunt. This stuff does not satisfy that qualification. Oats, I agree about cora, but what exactly is Rayn doing that makes him mafia? I rather like that he and I generally seem to be on the same page. Also, Marv can get into shitfests as mafia. I withhold judging him until he actually decides to play the game. As of right now, he seems content letting others do the work for him, which tells me nothing about his alignment. But then with Cora gone and you getting what you want, why nto go after geript once you were done as he appeared to be your #2? What are your updated reads because I don't honestly think I have any idea. What have you DONE this game, yamato? | ||
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On February 13 2014 06:14 yamato77 wrote: Why not go after geript? Are you reading my posts Wave? I think the number of posts in your filter where you 'go after' geript is like...3. Including the most recent one. Who are you voting for, yamato? | ||
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