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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 18 2014 20:03 GMT
#3241
But in yamato's defense, I wrote a case on him in on day 2 that he answered without stressing out too much about it (seems like the non-standard reaction, everyone else just blows the fuck up for some reason...). I like his answer there. And he did (even if softly) help me call out geript's bullshit on day 1, he was one of the few people who were at least somewhat with me on that case.

I also read his interaction with WoS at wave's request, and I can't tell I'm coming away particularly leaning one way or the other.

Maybe yamato is scum for simply lacking strong opinions and being useless, but I can't find anything that makes him scum based on what he posted.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 18 2014 20:03 GMT
#3242
No one is killing Holyflare, we had our chance, that ship has sailed.
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 20:04 GMT
#3243
y ppl so angry T_T
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 20:05 GMT
#3244
but yeh, palmar we HAVE HAVE HAVE to determine oats' alignment right now because he's gone to sleep
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 18 2014 20:08 GMT
#3245
sure.

I think Oats is scum, if I assume you're town.

But we have two other scums in that pool of three.

Currently I'm kinda working under the assumption WoS is the town in that group.

But I'm very unsure that is the correct read.
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 20:09 GMT
#3246
Why do you think the reverse of me !
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 18 2014 20:10 GMT
#3247
The reverse?
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 20:11 GMT
#3248
I think oats is town :o
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 18 2014 20:13 GMT
#3249
On February 19 2014 05:08 Palmar wrote:
sure.

I think Oats is scum, if I assume you're town.

But we have two other scums in that pool of three.

Currently I'm kinda working under the assumption WoS is the town in that group.

But I'm very unsure that is the correct read.

A good assumption imo.
But again if we're voting Oats today it's sheep for me because I still have no clue what makes him scum specifically.
Also HF I'm assuming he means the group of me/oats/risen (since he seems to think yamato is town)?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 18 2014 20:14 GMT
#3250
On February 19 2014 05:11 Holyflare wrote:
I think oats is town :o

On February 18 2014 22:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright well of my three yamato seems like the best choice from what I remember and where I am in my re-read. Moving on.
More stuff I read:
VA also had Oats as a scumread along with Geript/Keir and HF...
If throughout I find that more people talked about Oats without him being pushed as a reasonable lynch there may be good reason for that.

I wonder if a better question than 'Can anyone read Oats' is 'does anybody think he is town (and why)?
'

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 20:15 GMT
#3251
I was away for that bro! and I've definitely posted 1 or 2 things for him being town but I'm just comparing his meta's now and i'll get back with more info!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 18 2014 20:16 GMT
#3252
On February 19 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
I was away for that bro! and I've definitely posted 1 or 2 things for him being town but I'm just comparing his meta's now and i'll get back with more info!

I know I'm just restating.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 18 2014 20:16 GMT
#3253
On February 19 2014 05:11 Holyflare wrote:
I think oats is town :o


If you think Oats is town, you by extension think the scumteam is yamato/WoS/Risen.

Good to know where you stand

Do you want to elaborate on that stance on Oats?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 18 2014 20:21 GMT
#3254
On February 14 2014 00:16 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 00:15 Holyflare wrote:
On February 14 2014 00:15 Palmar wrote:
Who even reads that shit Holyflare, your ability to convince people is worse than VA's, and he will never convince anyone.


people do read it because it is generally correct, I catch scum almost 80%+ of the time, vengeful was the only exception in a long time


Nice going this game buddy, Cora guaranteed scum.


Maybe I should just agree with risen.

This 80% number is way off.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 18 2014 20:23 GMT
#3255
VE why are we clearing HF based on this Koshi thing.

Is it possible HF/Oats/ (Risen/WoS) is the mafia team?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 18 2014 20:23 GMT
#3256
On February 19 2014 05:02 Holyflare wrote:
I... don't even understand???? What planet do you come from where dead people's reads become 100% truth?


Also tbh, Both Grack and VA guaranteed you were scum.

Maybe these guys know you a lot better than I do...
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 18 2014 20:24 GMT
#3257
The thing about Yamato is that I still have no idea why he has the reads he has. He says it's pretty clear to him that HF/VE/Palmar are town, but he never qualifies that with any kind of reasoning. We can suppose that he means because Palmar and I were Nominated, but I don't get why he's saying that HF is clearly town, so I don't know why he's narrowed the lynch to the three people he has, and out of them he has literally no preference as to which is most likely scum.

:/

But what really gets my goat about it is in this post:
On February 19 2014 01:45 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 00:57 Palmar wrote:
I am liberally reading "I think it's clear", I guess, but assuming that is indeed your belief, the game is solved from your point of view if you're town. I wonder how that could possibly have gone past you?

As with anything in mafia, everything I say can be assumed to be qualified with the statement "I could be wrong, but".

As for my perspective, yes, it's likely solved, which is why I find it important to argue down my lynch. Still, it's still a good idea to have an idea of why we pick who we pick to lynch outside of the four of us (me, you, VE, HF), which is why I asked you about Oats specifically.


Like, he's trying to clarify why Palmar is choosing the person he is, which is in line with what he's saying, but he never EVER gives any reason as to what his preference is or why. Which is in direct conflict with the bolded. And if it's so important /why/ we choose who we choose, so important that he wants "confirmed" town Palmar to clarify HIS stance, why is it not just as important for the rest of us to know why he has the reads he does?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 18 2014 20:26 GMT
#3258
On February 19 2014 05:23 Palmar wrote:
VE why are we clearing HF based on this Koshi thing.

Is it possible HF/Oats/ (Risen/WoS) is the mafia team?

YOU are clearing HF based on the Koshi thing. I was clearing him because with me he was the only person talking during the Keir lynch - which could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on whether you think his aim was to point the lynch elsewhere, which at the time I didn't.

Now I'm not so sure. The thing is, I liked your question about why I was put up over Holyflare. Maybe Holyflare should answer that question too, my answer is in the thread.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 18 2014 20:32 GMT
#3259
I would say only one of Risen/HF can be scum. If they're both scum they've got a pretty epic bus thing going on.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 18 2014 20:32 GMT
#3260
Which at LYLO doesn't make much sense.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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