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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
February 12 2014 10:45 GMT
#1981
This post is made so marv doesn't feel so alone.

VA hopefully scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
February 12 2014 10:47 GMT
#1982
But I could lynch WoS just as easy. The I am annoyed by VA so therefore I will forever give him a townread is disturbing.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 12 2014 10:54 GMT
#1983
well VA is currently playing against wincon if he's town, so I assume iamp has warned him privately, and VA is continuing to choose not to play.

Ofc iamp almost certainly hasn't warned him privately, but his play if he's town is pretty much breaking "play to win" rules. He's done 2 things with his read on Oats and his comments on the nominees that he's refused to explain, and he refuses to explain why Holy is mafia. Whatchagonnado
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 12 2014 10:59 GMT
#1984
Keirathi - Palmar, rayn, and I all accepted yamato's explanation about the Vayne stuff as genuine.

It seem you do not.

What is causing you to disagree with all of us?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 12 2014 12:15 GMT
#1985
On February 12 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
I can't tell if he's mafia or just town who's gone off the deep end and is irrationally angry with everybody.

When I'm one of the ones staying calm in a game something is really odd.

Phoneposting
Who have I been irrationally angry with?
Not only is it clearly not 'everybody' (unless you're trying to be self-centred), but I don't think I've been irrational either.

I'll be around most of today so I can actually talk with people while they're around for once, but not for a couple hours yet

Note for filter: Yamato singling me out is a little odd---treats me like I pushed him off scum when I post one joking line about him to VE

Want to talk about geript/Keri and oats later
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 12 2014 12:24 GMT
#1986
On February 12 2014 19:54 marvellosity wrote:
well VA is currently playing against wincon if he's town, so I assume iamp has warned him privately, and VA is continuing to choose not to play.

Ofc iamp almost certainly hasn't warned him privately, but his play if he's town is pretty much breaking "play to win" rules. He's done 2 things with his read on Oats and his comments on the nominees that he's refused to explain, and he refuses to explain why Holy is mafia. Whatchagonnado

And for the record I agree with this, and it's completely reminiscent of why I used to hate playing with VA when he first started here (the anti wincin stuff)
He'd pull this shit as town all the time; I suppose not wanting to eliminate him for it now means I've become more tolerant of some of the stuff people are known for (like coags play) but 6-9 months ago I'd have been pushing for a policy lynch.

Or I'm wrong and he is scum and he gets lynched anyway but that I don't know
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 12 2014 12:39 GMT
#1987
I wouldn't be so bothered about VA refusing to explain himself if he hadn't done/said things that really need explaining.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 12 2014 12:40 GMT
#1988
Since when have you become more tolerant? I'm sure like 2 games ago you were pushing superhard for a policy lynch on someone for no reason when there was blatant mafia in the thread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 12 2014 12:44 GMT
#1989
On February 12 2014 21:40 marvellosity wrote:
Since when have you become more tolerant? I'm sure like 2 games ago you were pushing superhard for a policy lynch on someone for no reason when there was blatant mafia in the thread.

Who and when

I'm pretty sure since my raging at hosting PYP I've stopped bothering with getting myself worked up over that king of player
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 12 2014 12:47 GMT
#1990
I think it was kush, I forget the game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 12 2014 12:47 GMT
#1991
I mean I could go find out but it doesn't seem like that's useful to anything.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 12 2014 13:41 GMT
#1992
On February 12 2014 19:24 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, do you still think Wave's posting is reasonable?


I never said it was reasonable there is a reason I ignore him. I said the sheer amount made me think he was probably town.

Sheer amount seems to have fallen off a bit, now I need to go back and read what he actually said.

I don't want to lynch him today over VA (note I'm 2 pages behind in the thread, maybe VA came in strong).
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 12 2014 14:04 GMT
#1993
On February 12 2014 10:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marv why don't you talk to me a little bit about Yamato. I raised a couple of points earlier that gosh, I'd REALLY like your input on, but you're too busy browbeating me for being frustrated that NO ONE IS EVEN TRYING TO SEE MY CONTRIBUTIONS.


I decided to see if the bolded part is actually true. I did not find an actual case or anything, but I myself tend to prefer the shorter more concise points, so I can't hold it against VE. So I went on a wonderful journey reading through VE's filter.

I did not find these points. What I found are generic statements about yamato, without any explanation at all on WHY these points were important.

On February 12 2014 03:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 18:16 yamato77 wrote:
On February 09 2014 18:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meeeehhhh...it's not really any different from what I expect from twonCora so far yamato. Like...you even said it, his only opinions are of people attacking him. He found you all so he's clearly reading the thread right?

So he doesn't read as scum? That's a non-sequitur.

What I said was, this is similar to how he was playing in Quiet Game, which is true.

Also, his reads are pathetically shallow and he doesn't seem very interested in furthering them, either. When asked, he basically just said, "Yeah, I think he (Palmar) is scum but I'm not going to do anything until he comes back."

Weeeeeeeak. No one but Palmar has been strongly pushing any of their reads and I'm tired of letting these low-effort players play like this.

I mean, this town is like, drowning in nonchalance. Where's the impetus?

I for one find this post ironic and would like everyone to reflect on its significance.


And again here, he says the filter is short, but yamato announced he'd not be available for posting much, so there is lacking a why here again.

On February 12 2014 03:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
It helps if you get a feel for his play this game by opening his filter and reading his posts. It doesn't take long, A) there aren't very many and B) the majority of them are very short.


I could not find anything else in VE's recent filter (I admit I did not look back at day 1) that said anything of any substance about yamato. I don't think he even discussed my case that yamato then explained. It's a completely effortless push and there is a big theme of VE just saying things instead of explaining things.

In fact, here is a random collection of unexplained VE reads. I did not find any explained reads since the nightphase (when mafia is picking nomination targets).

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 12 2014 08:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I'm suspicious of yamato, why do my posts about him not count as anything Rayn? Why are the nominees the only ones whose contributions count? Bullshit.


On February 12 2014 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wasn't Holy Mafia in Shadow? And wasn't his MO "Fuck off and come back with huge paragraph posts"?

I could lynch Holy too probably.


On February 12 2014 01:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think Oats/geript/Vayne/yamato is a fine scumteam.


On February 12 2014 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
OH YEAH KOSHI.

Oats/geript/Vayne/Koshi. ftw.


On February 12 2014 00:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm liking Vayne for scum, and if I could read Grack I would probably give him a scumread for this game...but I can't read Grack.


On February 11 2014 11:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
To be fair, I also had suspicions of Koshi independent of yours Wave. Just sayin.




To be completely fair, VE did make one good case, that was during the night and on me. He explained why he thought I was scum (something he hasn't done about anyone since), and made a correct observation. Since then he has reasonably cleared me, but nothing but some random rage has replaced it.

I don't know, maybe people would talk to you VE if you actually said something.

The irony is that VE is not a fan of his own style this game:

On February 12 2014 00:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
K marv. Don't explain why or anything, just state it casually.

Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 12 2014 14:07 GMT
#1994
VE did talk sensibly on Day 1 at some point about yamato. I forget the content right now but it did exist as a thing. I'll happily engage him on yamato if he appears in the thread at some stage.

Not being funny Palmar, but what's the point of your post? What do you think it's demonstrating exactly, alignment-wise?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 12 2014 14:10 GMT
#1995
I can't tell if you are trying to make fun of VE of if you are trying to encourage him to explain his reads.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 12 2014 14:12 GMT
#1996
Or if it was a really bad VE is scum post.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 12 2014 14:13 GMT
#1997
Good job I've got Grack here to parrot me, dunno what i'd do without him
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 12 2014 14:13 GMT
#1998
A pattern and double standards.

It's not end-all damning, but I feel it's good grounds for evaluating him. We should have plenty of time for discussion anyway as VA doesn't seem like he's going to actually play the game. so there's like 3 phases until the next town-controlled lynch is up.

I just like pointing things out.

Hell, if VE is somehow town, this might help whip him into shape.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 12 2014 14:14 GMT
#1999
Not every observation I make is "GUY X IS SCUM!!!". I like patterns!
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 12 2014 14:14 GMT
#2000
I'm actually surprised you don't find this interesting marv, unless of course you had already noted the same.
Computer says mafia
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