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On February 04 2014 08:45 suki wrote: Apparently. also you have to take on a 'spam 40 posts a cycle' meta. How does this make you feel? motivated. And its not like there is anything from stopping me from literally posting 1 2 3 4 ... ... ... etc 40 if I were actually scared koshi (or anyone else) would follow through with it. Is there anyone who is legitimately advocating for letting people lurk? I understand that its largely inevitable (hell, im one of the poster children) but we should still be making a reasonable effort to pressure people and get thoughts when they are around. | ||
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Suppose I invoke a policy that "I will vote the player with the smallest filter at 30 minutes to deadline". How do you avoid drawing my vote? By spamming as much as possible. How do you conclude that I'm "almost advocating to let people lurk"? I literally ask that question as a rhetorical because its implied that lurking is bad. Is this real life right now? | ||
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On February 05 2014 10:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Anyway everyone should lynch hopeless because he started this game significantly differently from the past 2 town games he has been in. playing different. must be scum. Oats, forgive me when I scoff at that post. (I havent really read shit, starting now) | ||
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On February 05 2014 13:18 jaybrundage wrote: Wow so your actively lurking instead of posting something with content. ##Vote Hopeless1der im still reading. go away. | ||
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[excuses] I got sidetracked watching the creationism debate. Sue me. [/excuses] | ||
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I don't see how my answer is in any way going to be alignment indicative for this game. No comment. | ||
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On February 05 2014 13:53 Alakaslam wrote: As scum I am 10x more sensible then as town. Peese out till I wake back up I'm working nights Oats, analyze this post and tell me what alignment slam is. | ||
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I agree with the cases from suki and balla. I dislike the way that he has been trying to push my lynch and I think it is scummy, using poor reasoning and was attempting to use diversion tactics to avoid scrutiny/explaining himself but Balla forced him to follow through. I read LoneMeow as town right now. I'm going to wait to explain this so he gets a chance to defend himself without interference. @Cakeman who do you think is scum and why? You have spent more time defending townreads than searching out scum. Can we change that? | ||
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As for being a perfect sheep, yes I'm sorry I wasn't around to make the case myself. Do you want me to go quote Oats' filter 5 times and explain why he's still scum for the stuff you say he's refuted? | ||
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On February 05 2014 15:18 suki wrote: On second thought, I think this would be quite helpful. You don't have to quote his filter 5 times but if you can explain why you think his defense did not appropriately address my case that would be good. kk first thing when I wake up. @cakeman, you were reluctant to vote jay earlier (when you were saying koshi is scum). What changed? | ||
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tl;dr 1) Initial read on Koshi is scum. Diverts into hypothetical "koshi laid a trap". Doesnt address actual read on Koshi. Read changes to Koshi is town for no apparent reason. 2) Terrible progression of his scumread on me. Blatantly sheeping thread sentiment and then pushes my lynch with vague statements. When pressed to expand on his reads he dodges for a fair amount of time then finally comes up with something that in my opinion should not give someone such a strong scumread. I'd call it a forced case onto an easy mislynch target. Full Case spoilered for length: + Show Spoiler + On February 04 2014 12:15 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont like koshi's policy shit though, it makes it easy for scum just to avoid it and lynch a townie that doesnt give a shit Koshi's policy is bad On February 04 2014 15:32 Oatsmaster wrote: suki nullish, dunno why she is attacking you though, bad reasons but not inherently scummy. Cakeman also null. Same with johnny. i mean, nobody is really pushing shit and its hard to figure out if they are posting for the sake of it or posting to find scum. Literally throughout the whole 7-8 pages there is no concerted effort to push someone by anyone. Koshi scum for suggesting a really bad policy about post counts and nothing else. It feels like bait for scum to jump on but there is no followup. There's 2 things here: 1) Koshi's policy is so bad that he is scum 2) Koshi's badness was actually bait FOR the scumteam (i.e. Koshi totes town) Now it seems that 1 follows 2 because Koshi didn't follow up on his bad policy. Because of his "shitposting" after his first post. There's a bunch of no-context one-liners in Oats' filter where he goes back and forth with Koshi. This starts on Page 12, the majority is on page 13. On February 04 2014 22:55 Oatsmaster wrote: 1 good post doesnt make the rest not shitposts. Do you have a conclusion about what people said about your policy? Since you apparently did it to create discussion, you must have some kind of idea what you think about the people that commented on it either positively or negatively. Its important to realize that this is in the context of responding to Koshi saying his policy was not useless. This isnt a contradiction to earlier yet. On February 05 2014 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote: 1. Scum will go and shit on Koshi for it because its bad and scummy. 2. yeah suki and some other dudes. 3. My first thought was why is koshi proposing such a useless policy. mannnn Koshi's shitposting is AFTER his first post. Okay now I think Oats has stuffed his foot into his mouth. Read his emphasis here and compare with the second post I've quoted where Oats explicitly states that Koshi STARTED off bad and continued to post poorly. [b]Oats has completely flipflopped on story where his initial read on Koshi goes from A - "Koshi is/was scum" into B - "Koshi was laying a trap" On February 05 2014 08:59 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote Koshi ##Vote hopeless I never said Koshi's policy to catch scum was a good one.  I dont get it though, the cases against me just seem to be summarizing my play. Oats is right, he never said the policy was good. He also never really came around to the fact that Koshi was likely town either. How did Oats arrive at the conclusion that Koshi was town?] I don't see the progression in his reads. I see him commenting on his initial reactions a lot and saying how he thought Koshi could be laying a trap at first. HOWEVER, since Koshi didn't follow up, he was convinced Koshi was scum. --->Where did this reasoning change or go away? Oats is content to just bandwagon on to me because thread sentiment will let him. He doesn't need to stick his neck out. I wouldn't mind the switch onto me except that he avoids fleshing out his read of Koshi at the same time. Suki's case / Oats' internal response: Oatsmaster wrote: This whole point makes no sense to me, I said thats what I thought koshi mightve done if he was town, at that time I thought he was scum so thats like a non-point. I believe I've sufficiently rehashed this point above where I show that Oats is stuck in his hypothetical "Koshi is town" story and doesnt address his ACTUAL read on Koshi ever. When he unvoted Koshi it was 1-line of "oh I never said that, you guys are silly" type of feeling. Totally non-committal scum posting. Oatsmaster wrote: I answered the question in the next post, I was making a joke.] Balla has already made the point that Oats' fishing for reads was scummy. Joking after the fact doesn't change that. This point in suki's case is bad. The context around this point is good evidence for why Oats is scum. Oatsmaster wrote: So suki thinks that hopeless is town, interesting. Anyway this whole cases relies on the fact that I think Koshi's trap is good, which it isnt. So yeahhhhh not such a good case. Okay, so at this point I believe (and correct me if I am wrong please) Oats has established a read of "Koshi is town and was laying a trap". Does Oats have a townread on Koshi? (at the time of his unvote) If so, why? Finally there is Oats' actual push against me: First, with absolutely no mention of me before this point On February 05 2014 01:39 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah Im not telling you my conclusions because I want to hear what you think without my conclusions coloring your analysis. I really null on cake, what he posts when he comes back is really important and will probably decided my read. Hopeless is a useless piece of shit that we should lynch. Woah there champ. Suki pointed out how this was a little over the top. There is no context, no explanation, just "LYNCH THIS FUCKER!!11!" On February 05 2014 08:59 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote Koshi ##Vote hopeless I never said Koshi's policy to catch scum was a good one. I dont get it though, the cases against me just seem to be summarizing my play. Still no actual reasons. On February 05 2014 10:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Anyway everyone should lynch hopeless because he started this game significantly differently from the past 2 town games he has been in. In this post, Oats eventually and after repeated prodding from Balla refers to my entrance meta of being light hearted and joking around early on. I dont think that is a good enough reason to call me out for being a "useless piece of shit". And it takes him sooo loonnnggg to make this point, Balla was pulling teeth. On February 05 2014 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote: Im on my phone. What annoys me is that you apparently dont care about hopeless's alignment. You could check on hopeless' games and then make a decision and see what I say. But no, you want to be spoonfed anything. Do you think hopeless is particularly town? If not, why are you indirectly defending him? Oats' accuses Balla of Chainsawing me. I disagree. Draw your conclusions based on if you think this is a reasonable point for Oats to argue OR if it seems like he is stalling and trying to pawn off the responsibility to someone else. | ||
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On February 06 2014 00:44 Koshi wrote: What is your read on me? On February 05 2014 08:18 Koshi wrote: Because I do not get this worked up about a read as scum. I dont post this much as scum. I dont react this fast as scum. It is literally impossible for me to be scum atm. The part about him being scum.is.because he is not trying to read me. In bed atm sleeping. rings pretty true to me after SMB. On February 05 2014 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote: what. Balla called cake townie, I called him null, pretty much everyone in the game thinks hopeless should die so there is that.... I asked LM the questions first and I think he is town. This is blatant sheeping Oats. Asking beforehand makes it even more blatant. You can't deny the statement that your filter shows you sheeping thread sentiment. Furthermore, my point is more related to how you approached pushing my lynch. Oats can you explain your read on Koshi based on his posting at the time of your unvote? | ||
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Most of the time he's arguing against lynching him, but in the back of my mind I feel like he'll just swap over whenever its convenient. On February 05 2014 04:15 cakemanofdoom wrote: Other things about oats feel more weird than scummy. Like with his insisting that you post your opinion first, I can imagine town doing that (I would probably have trouble reading someone who sheeped me) even if I'd prefer if he were open with his thoughts. Oats's contradiction with his stance on koshi's policy doesn't seem scummy to me. It's a bit hard to explain, I think it sorta makes sense for him to disagree with the policy, and assume that it was bad enough that it was meant to make scum slip while attacking it. Him saying that Koshi's policy was bad is a required step of explaining his thought process. Then again, I'm also not sure why he thinks town isn't just as likely to attack the policy if it's so bad. So yeah, I'm not convinced oats is mafia, but a response from him would be nice. And I really wanna get the super quiet people posting before lynching oats. The last two lines here demonstrate my point perfectly. He does a similar thing with Jay where early on, and for a decent amount of time + Show Spoiler + On February 04 2014 12:52 cakemanofdoom wrote: I think jay's townie. Some of his posts are way wordier than they need to be imo, but I like most of his reasoning, and that seems more important than whether or not he's posting fluff. On February 05 2014 13:46 cakemanofdoom wrote: I don't want to lynch jay today. He's posted too many sensible things that I don't want him gone yet. I also think that it's pretty reasonable to focus on generating discussion and getting reads rather than posting cases and trying to get people lynched, especially when it's still early on in the game. I'm willing to lynch LM. Mostly because of lack of content. The questions he asks aren't too bad, but he doesn't seem to be doing anything with his answers. At this point I'd prefer lynching hopeless, nothing even on the level of LM's questions yet. I think Koshi might be scum. He started off with a policy meant to generate discusison, cool. But the next time he enters the thread, he explicitly claims that he's just gonna be lurky and let others talk. Seems like he's trying to get away with non-contribution, and wasting most of his day 1 by being cryptic. He ended up posting a case on Jonny, which was bad and atm it looks like Koshi doesn't stand by his own case. Jonny's actions regarding the LM vote actually do make sense. Koshi also accuses Jonny of having a scum mentality for talking about his own waffling... even though Jonny was responding to a question and Koshi thought that too. I don't know why Koshi also has a defense post. But it doesn't seem to me like he's that worked up about a read, and it doesn't feel like he's posted all that much (well, his filter is kinda long. Main reason I'm not totally convinced he's mafia). I can't believe his claim about fast reactions in my position. "Jay is town, we probably should lynch jay" (those posts are ~24 hours apart) And then 1.5 hours later waffles like he's at an IHOP On February 05 2014 15:10 cakemanofdoom wrote: I think Koshi is mafia. My last post went over why. I'm starting to think jay might be mafia. He seems to spend a lot of time defending himself, not as much looking for mafia. Still don't want to lynch him soon since he's so much more active than some people. His main case was on LoneMeow, which I didn't like that much; I really don't find much that's especially scummy about LM. Not too sure yet, this will probably be greatly affected by how jay posts from now. LoneMeow and Hopeless were lurky. Can't really tell if they're mafia from that, but they're fine lynches. Hopeless's more recent posts don't seem very substantial. Bad sign imo. Need to think about/read alaska and suki more. I thought suki was mafia for a bit, then she seemed to post and try. Once again: "Jay is town because...." On February 05 2014 13:46 cakemanofdoom wrote: I also think that it's pretty reasonable to focus on generating discussion and getting reads rather than posting cases and trying to get people lynched "Jay is scum because...." On February 05 2014 15:10 cakemanofdoom wrote: He seems to spend a lot of time defending himself, not as much looking for mafia. Jay never posted in between these two posts. | ||
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On February 06 2014 01:10 Oatsmaster wrote: hopeless why you make me feel bad about calling you scum because you had no basis for calling me scum and now you feel foolish for trying to go for the easy mislynch. Sorry oats, better luck next time. You gonna explain your read on Koshi this time? Thats the non-omgus part of my case. | ||
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You're right about how cakeman isn't making sudden leaps in his reads. That's not really the point I was trying to make though. Jay hadnt posted anything further between "I don't want to lynch Jay" and "I think Jay is mafia". Those two thoughts should be considered as contradictory. I shouldn't need to say this, but town wants to lynch mafia. All of the possible evidence for both independent thoughts were already in thread at the time of posting each thought. Its the fence sitting that I think is scummy about him. Suki points out (in the same quotes) how he does the same thing regarding you LM. | ||
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On February 06 2014 01:25 Koshi wrote: Also, I defended you like mad in the game we were masoned as town. Why do you forget that and paint it scummy this game? you were mod confirmed mason? Or was this LXIII? Also I read your case on Jonny as pointing out a progression of "LM totes town" to "I could lynch LM". Jonny never actually gets all the way to the end of that progression. This is the post that is closest to saying he'd lynch LM, but that is only to plant the thought that its a possibility, not that he'd actually do it: On February 04 2014 11:14 JonnyLaw wrote: LM hasn't given us quality or quantity yet. He says one thing then does another. It's early in the game for me to demand more quality of his posting. At least as far as considering lynching him. Hi cakeman. Please don't become lynch bait by not posting if you're town. + Show Spoiler [@balla] + This is driving me nuts. I literally just looked at those games as i changed my profile. nmm xlvii end gamed by balla scum nmm L, I was shot n2, balla shot N3 nmm LI, balla shot jonnylaw N1 normal mini mafia iballa lynched day 1 | ||
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Koshi super scum for opening post: On February 04 2014 15:32 Oatsmaster wrote: suki nullish, dunno why she is attacking you though, bad reasons but not inherently scummy. Cakeman also null. Same with johnny. i mean, nobody is really pushing shit and its hard to figure out if they are posting for the sake of it or posting to find scum. Literally throughout the whole 7-8 pages there is no concerted effort to push someone by anyone. Koshi scum for suggesting a really bad policy about post counts and nothing else. It feels like bait for scum to jump on but there is no followup. Koshi super scum for everything after opening post: On February 05 2014 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote: 1. Scum will go and shit on Koshi for it because its bad and scummy. 2. yeah suki and some other dudes. 3. My first thought was why is koshi proposing such a useless policy. mannnn Koshi's shitposting is AFTER his first post. Koshi totes town for opening post (This is more of an inferred read based on his response at the end of suki's case): On February 05 2014 08:59 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote Koshi ##Vote hopeless I never said Koshi's policy to catch scum was a good one. I dont get it though, the cases against me just seem to be summarizing my play. I don't see the progression anywhere in his filter. Oats' reasoning comes down to On February 05 2014 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote: slam is town because scum dont refer to their scumplay when playing scum unless they are playing way way differently. In reference to this post from Koshi (second quote in this post): On February 06 2014 01:15 Oatsmaster wrote: oh its this that made me change my mind, it was mainly a pressure vote to get him to start playing. | ||
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On February 06 2014 01:48 jaybrundage wrote: Does anyone else think that Hopeless being gone for twenty four hours. Coming back and getting on the popular sentiment of oats being scum and the two cases on him. While also OMGUS'ing Oats is a bit suspicious? It seems like he made was just pushing Oats back cause he needed to come back in the thread with something. After calling Oats scummy. He made up his own case so he wouldn't be blatantly sheeping. I tried blatantly sheeping and got shot down Jay. I thought Oats was scum. Am I supposed to spam "OATS SCUM KILL IT" and leave it at that? I'm also not simply tunneling Oats to infinity. You haven't actually commented on the case. Can I get your thoughts on how you feel about Oats claiming everything early on re:Koshi was just pressure? | ||
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On February 06 2014 02:39 Balla24 wrote: Hopeless can you elaborate on why you would only vote LoneMeow to save yourself? He's fully aware of the fact that he looks bad and is able to compare his own status with my own. I feel like he'd have taken a shot at getting me lynched when he was asking jay about why himself and not me. He's been in a similar state to me where a majority of the thread is offhandedly commenting that "he's bad, I could lynch him for being useless" (referring to both me and LM). However there was never a real push to get him lynched (except Jay and the more recent developments) whereas there has been one on me. Again, why not just take the "easy" way out? He still hasnt dropped a vote after repeated requests, despite having 2-3 viable targets to say "lets get this guy". The reasoning for debating cakeman's scumminess or why koshi's case on JonnyLaw is flawed looks good to me. He doesn't beat around the bush so I end up with a good understanding of what he's thinking. His questions are pointed and aim to get more information into the thread. The worst thing about him is that he rarely follows up with his questions, but koshi is dead on when he mentions LXIII. Pre-edit to your amended question 1) answered above 2) I know I'm town duh. Silly question. | ||
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On February 06 2014 03:05 LoneMeow wrote: Why are you voting the same player as your scum read Oatsmaster? Because Oats isn't getting lynched by the looks of things. There is sufficient reasoning to lynch either of them independently of the other. | ||
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I disagree that taking ages to develop scumreads is waffling. @Jay Oats/Cakeman/??? Sidesprang for the lulz comparison to HF->Toad I guess. I dont really have third candidate. | ||
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On February 06 2014 03:30 Balla24 wrote: I didn't say that, I said he's beating around the bush. Not that he's being indecisive. As town, I don't think you should have gotten yourself in that kind of situation. If you really think cakeman is scum, and the votes aren't going in your way, and you've done everything you think you can to convince town that you are not scum, lonemeow is not scum and cakeman is. Then you shouldn't vote lonemeow to save yourself because YOU THINK he's town, and the town sentiment clearly thinks you are scum. You saving yourself will just make you be a HUGE question mark for the rest of the game. In that case town sentiment is so wrong that I am obligated to keep myself alive as the sole voice of reason to salvage a terrible situation. You are wrong sir. As any faction, one should never roll over and die. | ||
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On February 06 2014 03:30 LoneMeow wrote: Can we lynch Koshi? The way he's not participating in the discussion about cakemanofdoom is scummy as hell. That's not an OMGUS at all LM. I don't really want to lynch Koshi though. What does it say about cakeman that koshi isn't participating? | ||
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On February 06 2014 03:38 jaybrundage wrote: I would of been happier if you felt obligated to not leave the thread for 24 hours. You must know why your being lynched. At this point I would just get all your thoughts out. In the unlikely case that your town. Acting like its town's fault for your lynch is a bit egotistical. woah I never said its towns fault for lynching me. I'm not going to cite the many instances where I self-depreciate my own play by calling it scummy because I do it in damn near every game. However, Balla is telling me I should kill myself to save town the grief of reading me later. Do you agree with him? I should knowingly allow a guaranteed mislynch to occur? | ||
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On February 06 2014 03:49 suki wrote: first off modkilling oneself is not in the spirit of the game. second, you're all seriously pressuring Hopeless solely on the point that he was afk for 24 hours? He can't do anything about that now but he seems to be putting in effort now. I'm not advocating for self-modkillage. Balla: If you've done everything you can and town still wants to lynch you, you should let them Hopeless: No. I should save myself. Jay: You didnt try hard enough. Why didnt you try harder Hopeless? Hopeless: I'm hypothetically suggesting literally have a deciding vote to save myself. Should I take it? Jay: But you shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with! ->This doesnt actually address what I said Jay wtf can you read the argument I'm trying to address? - Yes I played scummy. I'm trying to correct that. Your argument has no place in the context of my conversation with Balla. - If I can save myself, I'm going to. It is the correct play based on the information available. Balla are you taking issue with the fact that I brought up the point about how I'd lynch LM over myself? The context of "I want to lynch scumread, I do not want to lynch townreads" isnt clear? | ||
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On February 06 2014 04:03 jaybrundage wrote: @Hopeless Oh, I wasn't addressing your hypothetical situation in my post. But yes if you could save your self and your town you should take it. but not if I'm scum /waiting on Jonny's next post. | ||
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On February 06 2014 04:13 JonnyLaw wrote: Here's two things to look at regarding Cakeman. In this game people were suspicious of Cakeman on d1 for the same reasons hopeless pointed out in his case. Cakeman was town, was not lynched and end gamed the scum. The qt should give you some insight into cakeman's thinking. http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/gA5BjwKEXfQn http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102&user=cakemanofdoom Onto hopeless v cakeman. + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2014 01:19 LoneMeow wrote: If you look at both of the posts in their entirety they're far less damning: It's not like he's saying "jay is town" and then suddenly going "jay is scum". More like a gradual shift from "I don't want to lynch jay" to "jay seems scummy but..." LM got it right. That's a very town line of thinking. He's considering the options regarding Jay and thinking about the game. His line of thinking is very transparent. Jay's contributing so he doesn't want to lynch him yet. If Jay's town he'll be helpful and if not he's posting enough we can catch him later. In between those two posts that hopeless picked out the scummy parts there was a lot of discussion regarding Jay even if he didn't post himself. From the linked game. He does this a few times in the game. It's town thinking about the game and working it through their mind. Show me? | ||
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On February 05 2014 18:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Day 1 - Deadline at Wednesday, Feb 05 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Hopeless1der (4): Oatsmaster, suki, Balla24, cakemanofdoom Oatsmaster (1): Hopeless1der, JonnyLaw (1): Koshi jaybrundage (1): JonnyLaw Hopeless1der (1): jaybrundage Koshi (0): LoneMeow (0): Not voted: (3): Sidesprang (will be replaced after D1), Alakaslam, LoneMeow If there's any mistakes, please let me know. At the moment, Hopeless1der is set to be lynched. | ||
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Slam what are your thoughts on cakeman? You're just tuneling jay and not giving us anything else. | ||
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On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote: Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy. I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day. I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads. Lets lynch Koshi. Maybe Hopeless. Yeah those are good lynches. Don't lynch cakeman. + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote: hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum. Here are the updated vote counts. 1. Balla24 2. Sidesprang 3. Alakaslam 4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats 5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw 6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam 7. Hopeless1der -Jaybrundage, Balla 8. Oatsmaster 9. JonnyLaw 10. Suki 11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour and a half left. (Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.) Hmm we should lynch hopeless. LoneMeow maybe but he's easy to lynch later anyways. Lets lynch hopeless. + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Lonemeow Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down. 1. Balla24 2. Sidesprang 3. Alakaslam 4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats 5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw, Balla, JayBrundage 6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam 7. Hopeless1der - 8. Oatsmaster 9. JonnyLaw 10. Suki 11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour left (Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.) Oh alright you guys, I guess I can lynch LoneMeow. Btw we should totes lynch Hopeless. | ||
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Reasons why Jaybrundage's vote on LoneMeow looks convoluted and bandwagony. | ||
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On February 06 2014 05:59 jaybrundage wrote: In comparison to Lonemeow you post more and actually make cases. Yeah guys, activity and reasoning = scum. You heard it here first. | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:08 jaybrundage wrote: Ok so gonna take a step back I get a bit heated when people post that Im scum. When I'm doing my best effort to play like a strong townie. I'm going to listen to some music and take a look at the post about cake changing his reads that hopeless mentioned to me that i wasn't able to look up on. I will still respond if i find something i deem worth responding too. How is jay not aware of this when he gives cakeman a townread after the discussion about him? On February 06 2014 03:15 jaybrundage wrote: Where is cake? I would like him to be able to defend himself if hes a candidate to get lynched. Hopeless If you get lynched today what would your prediction for a scum team be? Can we get a vote count? Here he clearly knows that cakeman is up for discussion, but he claims to have not looked up on why that was just now... On February 06 2014 06:13 Balla24 wrote: Kind of, but I don't think it's correct. I see where it's coming from. But he's not calling you SCUM because you post more cases and whatever, he's calling you a possibly good scum player. He's calling you scum for the content you produced and the way you handled yourself early game. I can see that side of things but to me he's fearmongering the thread into lynching me because I suddenly became active and potentially readable. I dont like it because if anything he should be able to get me lynched based on the content I have produced, not the threat that I'll be able to fool people. The mentality doesnt sit right. | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:43 suki wrote: I like my vote where it is. I also think valid points are being raised against Jay and will look at him closer after the lynch. Not cool suki...There is still 15 minutes to look at things. Why won't you actually look at Jay now, especially when he is voting for the same person you are? | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:47 Balla24 wrote: I had the impression that he always had you as a lynch target. Since his case on you. This seems reasonable but jay had nothing to do with LM gaining traction, lumps himself in with the crowd and then when he's called out on it he points back to his severely outdated case and says "what now?" Your case shouldn't hold the same merit it did yesterday as it does today and he JUST addressed that point and has moved his vote onto Koshi. And admittedly Koshi's afk looks bad but I can't reconcile Jay to a town mindset right now. | ||
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I didnt think so, but that claim was terrible. like fuck... | ||
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There's no host....oh gawd.. | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:57 LoneMeow wrote: Do NOT vote me. His claim is fake because I am the doctor. If you still do not believe and lynch me, look extremely closely into the people who tried hard to get people to switch. ##unvote: koshi | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:59 Balla24 wrote: LITERALLY NO REASON FOR SCUM TO CC... LONEMEOW CANNOT BE SCUM. I'm rolling with this. | ||
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Is there an obsqt for this game or is it combined with the original game? | ||
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On February 06 2014 03:23 Hopeless1der wrote: balla pretend the votes are 5-5 and my vote is on cakeman. Its 5 minutes to deadline. What do I do? I disagree that taking ages to develop scumreads is waffling. @Jay Oats/Cakeman/??? Sidesprang for the lulz comparison to HF->Toad I guess. I dont really have third candidate. | ||
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